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fisher has been covering this case. so sarah, what is going to is this? let me start with that. is this going to happen tomorrow? well it's looking more likely by the minute if they were to settle. it has to be done before nine a.m. tomorrow. that's when the judges adjourning bringing us all together to start. the trial will start by finalizing the jury selection before opening arguments. now there were some rumors that we would get a settlement potentially today because, as you mentioned the start date was pushed back by one day, but as it stands now, it's looking like this thing is going to go to trial. okay first of all, there's a lot of hours between now and nine, and i'm sure that the lawyers are working overtime. i just feel that because the reason i feel that is in every single lawsuit against fox that i can remember . maybe you know, if something different, but i mean off the top of my head. roughly a dozen . they settle because they don't want their dirty laundry aired totally, but to differences here one is that the folks that they're up against which is dominion feels so strongly about having a strong case. they're not just looking for damages. they're looking to embarrass box
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. they're looking to make sure that fox has to take account for what they put on their air. so that's one and the number two. is that fox in this situation? if they were to try to get a settlement for this case that would set a precedent for every single other defamation lawsuit that they face. so this is a $1.6 billion suit. they're looking at a $2.7 billion suit for smartmatic. after this do they want to set the precedent that they're just going to settle and pay out all of these defamation lawsuits? i don't quite know, especially because it might not be that domain actually gets all $1.6 billion. a jury would have to be convinced that it is awarded this it deserves to be aware of those damages for five it might be worth it to see this in front of a jury and see if they can get a lower down amount than what they would have had to settle for. that is very interesting. i mean, you know, it's notoriously hard to prove a defamation case that's a very high bar, but dominion again. you you're the expert. you're right. it seems based on everything we read there, so convinced they've got the text
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messages. they it's all there in black and white. yes so i think it's pretty clear from legal experts that dominion has a strong case on the actual malice legal front, which means that they would be able to likely prove that fox acted with intent or actual malice air these election lies basically it knowingly air these election lies. but what's harder is to prove that dominion deserves $1.6 billion worth of damages. that is, what's going to be interesting in court at the same time, if they do settle look at how fox is already been embarrassed by a lot of the revelations that have come out already. and so you can understand why dominion would want its day in court because they can make a big, very public case. lots of attention on this case, but already some of the things that have come out in discovery if fox were to be able to reach a settlement, you almost wonder. well you know, why did you let all of this interesting? interesting information coming out? that is damaging to the brand? well, that's a good point. now. the fox the judge in this trial, has already said that dominion can subpoena rupert murdoch and his son. lachlan as well as other fox executives. so if fox were
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to go to trial we can and should expect those people to be walking through that tent. but in terms of what's incriminating that could come out. during this process pretrial. we've had to go through a lot of different legal proceedings to see what we could do in the actual courtroom, and one of the things that we found is that the judge has opened dominion up to potentially interview even more witnesses gather more information and discovery because of the way that fox had presented its executives role within box news. that's a whole little thing that i'm not going to get into. but what i'm trying to say is a lot more could come out. and so, from that perspective, it does. but who fox to settle because you don't want to embarrass yourself, but there's a key thing. and to remember this is not a televised trial. this is not johnny depp. amber heard this is not going to paltrow and her ski incident. i wish you well, this is a private trial. we can't even rebroadcast the audio from this trial. and so you know, there is a cartoonist that's going to be doing a few sketches, but otherwise you know you're stealing them from potentially incriminating increment incriminating things that we
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could report on. but it's not like the public is going to be hearing what they're gonna say. and if there were settlement there is there is a suspicion that if dominion were to settle , they would still demand an on air statement from fox of some sort of responsibility, and so it's hard to know which would be more damaging for them going through the trial, by the way, their audience doesn't know this is happening. much of their audience reported all in there at all. and so if their their audience when they're just completely fox devotees, which many are they have never heard of this. they don't act happening, so it's hard to know which would be more damaging it going to trial or them, settling and having to read a statement having to read this statement, or having to admit to doing something is what's actually the most legal perilous thing for fox, because again there are so many other defamation suits that they're facing. so if they admit to wrongdoing in this one, it's very hard for them to try to view their way out of the future ones. do you think sarah that there are long term implications for fox here as well? like if
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dominion wins right, and they are able to prove that you know this defamation case does fox then have to actually think about how it is presenting certain topics on air. totally fox is not going to want to put election deniers upfront in its programming if they lose over a billion dollars to a defamation suit the year before, and if they're facing future defamation suits. the other big problem that box faces is that some of their shareholders are now reportedly upset. so there was a orders for reuters report today that said shareholders are looking to potentially investigate whether or not the directors of the board knew about these decisions that were being made at the fox news level. that is a big problem as soon as you're going to get your shareholders upset now you have a serious issue. and then what about the trump factor of all of this? and that's the other thing. right big one. all this boils down to lies that he wanted spread out there, right? but he is still i mean, as of recent weeks, we cover his
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campaign for presidency. he's still out there spreading these same lies. he may not be talking about dominion, you know specifically, but he's talking about 2020 being a presidential election that was full of fraud , and so when you have that happening and you have this lawsuit happening? i mean, as a reporter, you kind of look at this space of okay. you know, we don't want there to be lies out there spread by news outlets and all that. but when you have a candidate for president who is still spreading the lies, it's sort of like you know, this case could have implications for fox but will have implications in the space of, you know, spreading of disinformation. i mean, well, you were just saying right, like the people who are only watching fox or if that's their only news diet, right? like they they don't and they're only listening to trump and they also just did an interview. tucker just did an interview with donald trump and donald trump isn't backing off of these would they still put donald trump on the air, knowing that
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they would have had to pay cough up millions of dollars billion dollars? as of these couple of things that they're going to have to think about one. do you put his allies on the air? the sydney powell's of the world are never going to go back on fox air after this but then to do you have to be sort of strategic. about how you cut your tape. do you do all pre interviews with trump? you don't air them live because if he has election falsehoods are your prime time anchor is going to be willing and ready to rebuff him and are going to be ruling and really ready to fact. check him. these are all things that box is going to have to consider. but there's also one other problem. what's not just donald trump. we have carry lake who might run for senate. there are a bunch of election deniers that fox is going to want to go have on their air, and they're going to want to be on fox's air. and so this is not just a trump problem access to kind of do a little bit of soul searching here to figure out what they're going to do for 2024. yeah, all right. thank you all very much. we will just be watching the clock to see if this is actually going to happen in the next few hours. alright. we also have developments tonight. in that
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shooting, where an 84 year old man in kansas city he was charged this evening with shooting 16 year old ralph your all in the head last week after you're all apparently rang the wrong door bell. prosecutor says there's quote a real racial component to this case. athena has been covering this for us, so we'll have more nuts. compared with other choose one verb ecto chew protects from fleas and ticks for 12 weeks, nearly three times longer used with caution and dogs with the history of seizures or neurological disorders. protection that lasts longer. bravo of ecto bravo! brilliant smile covered. nice smile, brad . nice thanks. white 100% more stain removal crest. reinventing our network with smarter, more efficient routes so you can deliver more value to your
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name would go unpunished. violence against black person would go unpunished, but now that these charges have been announced my question is, how is the community going to respond? and how is the public one respond not just in that county or in that state, but in general , and, as is so often the case with these stories with racial component if you go on twitter, twitter is not real life. but you go on twitter. there's a lot of talk about, you know. well if he they don't have the facts. you know, he had entered my house. i would have shot him too. he did not. he never. he just rang the doorbell. there was he was shot through a glass door. the probable cause, and the documentation suggests that there was no words exchanged. but the thing is, people don't necessarily want to address what is the real issue here? and that is that to a lot of black people. this is not just enraging. it's chilling. because anyone can make the mistake of going to the wrong house going to the wrong going ringing the wrong door. bell and yet, as as many have said today, you don't often hear about a white person being thought to be dangerous
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and being shot on sight. and it's also this is not the first time this has happened. remember renisha mcbride that was in michigan? maybe 10 years ago, she had a car accident went looking for help shot dead. so this is this is sort of part of a pattern. and so my biggest my biggest question or or sort of curiosity is going to be. how do people deal with this can any bridges be crossed. can any can anyone encounter coming together happen and understanding happen to why? you know we a lot of us. see this is very, very obviously an issue of black and white and if not racism than you know, racial prejudice and sort of uh , lack of racial understanding. yeah couple of things. i mean, the difference here that this kid i was trying to go to 115th terrorists went 215th street just that for that block off for so long time of night of us can make that mistake. it's 10 pm and here he is, and i just want i wanted to show that picture because what the defendant said who was 84 year old white man.
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what he said was the return. but he apparently told police this was in the charging documents was he was scared to death. when he looked at me, and he was scared to death right now we're hearing that this is a very majority white county. but we also know this. this touches on a theme. we see a lot when it comes to black children. it's called the adult fication of black children, boys and girls, especially boys. i don't actually know how tall uh, ralph , y'all don't want to find that the suspect. believed he had to be six ft. tall but there's just it's sort of a lack of familiarity. there's a general sort of societal tendency to do this to sort of i think that a black child boy or girl is much older than they actually are, and then expect them to act much more mature than they actually are. but in this case, it was really a matter of him. this just added to his fear. he thought he was looking at a grown man, and i mean a lot of black people will say, look, every a lot of people in the country are are conditioned to fear. black people, or at least
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to fear people that they're not familiar with the community they might be familiar with. so this is complicated. it's multilayered, but there is too many people very clearly a racial component, and that's exactly what we heard from the prosecutor and others who spoke about this in the case. i know i heard them say today there was a racial component. but what else did they say? beyond that? were they able to get at the root of not so far because one thing is interesting is that there's not on video. there are. there were apparently no other witnesses. and who knows if they didn't charge this because they weren't sure if they could, they could prove it. but when they were when the prosecutors asked about this today, why didn't you bring a hate crime charge? if you say there's a racial component? his explanation was that the first class a felony, which is this guy could get up to life in prison. he's already 84 years old, but it's 10 to 30 to life. that's more serious. and so the hate crime charge it would be a felony but a lesser felony, and so they're going with the
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biggest charge they can have. and so others would say, maybe they're avoiding bringing the whole idea of race into it because it will be more fraught to try to make that case. i also think like we should just talk about what happened here. i mean , this 84 year old didn't even have a conversation with this guy before he fired a shot at his arm and his head through a locked door. i mean, it's just it's just kind of crazy to think about it. mean and this guy was, you know, going to pick up his. i think it's his siblings, siblings, right? he clearly wasn't coming up to the house in a very aggressive way. just you know, coming to knock on the door bell and just reflecting on on that, and that that happens in america and what it means about you know where our society is, and the tensions that exist within communities. um i just i just think it's something that like we need to talk about and it's really sad and there's so much fear because we just heard earlier tonight about another case in upstate new york, and we don't know about the races,
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races involved here, but of kids ending up at the wrong property , and the owner there shot and ended up killing while the people they never even got out of the car. my god, there's clearly a lot of fear, and certainly some profit on promoting that kind of fear. but we're seeing that it has can have deadly results. and we should also mention that the 16 year old it does look like he's going to recover thinking thank goodness. he was released from the hospital. his mother is a nurse. he was released. i think to her care. we also learned about him. he's an honorable student. he plays the clarinet. he was going to pick up other siblings. i mean, he's he's a stellar student. you know every that the kid you would want to, actually, here is another picture of him. and the fact that he's had to go through this is just stunning. okay, so now tell us about what's happening in akron, ohio. akron, ohio is a case of jalen walker. he may remember this was back last year, june 2020 to 25 years old . this is a young man who had no criminal record, but he ends up in a chase and a person than a
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foot pursuit with police who tried to pull him over. ah they say that he fired at least one shot at police in the earlier part of this, this this car chase what you're going to see right now. i believe we have video clip from one of the many, many body worn cameras these officers were wearing and you're going to see the kind of the last moments of this, his his 2005 buick slowing down and him jumping out of the car now, the ohio attorney general says here you see it. this is the police officer arriving jumping out of the car. that is the buick slowly rolling to a stop there, and in a moment, you'll see jalen walker getting out of that vehicle and running away and you have to listen to it because it's very disturbing, not just to watch but to listen to. that's awful lot of gunshots.
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and did you say it was? it's 40. he was hit 46. well, he had 46 wounds. on his body seven seconds in less than seven seconds. and what was the what? precipitated that? what they why did they shoot right? believe that he was reaching for they described as from a week across . they thought he had a weapon and because he had apparently fired earlier in the in the in the pursuit. he had a viral least one shot, according to the attorney general, they thought he still had the gun on him now later. they found that this recently purchased handgun was in his in his in the front car seat, but they didn't know. they also said he was wearing a ski mask and gesturing. there's a lot you can't see. we can't see in that video. but keep in mind that these investigators that this grand jury spent more than a week looking through through this because of all the testimony and all of the evidence, 100 or so recorded videos, and more than 50, or sorry, recorded interviews and more than 50 videos, because you had all these responding officers. you had surveillance videos. you had traffic video camera. you have dash grand jury decided. not to charge any of
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them not to charge. they believe that this was justified and because of that shot that he fired that they did that. they didn't think he had a gun because they didn't think he had a gun. and you know, they actually they lay it all out. they spell it all out. you know, it's very transparent in that case, and they say that this he was seen on he was captured on video on a separate officers video with the firing that gun out of the window. good question . what does this mean for policing? because i thought the point of everybody having a body cam was to ensure accountability in the way that they're using weapons. but clearly, that's not the case. if there are so much body can is being warned. there's so much footage and we're still getting over 40 rounds, hitting i think this is more complicated. some of the explanations we've heard is that you know these are these are powerful modern weapons police are using and i don't know exactly what weapons they were using. but you can imagine they're probably not in that short amount of time. they're not firing multiple. they're not pulling a trigger multiple times . you pull the trigger, you squeeze it and more than one bullet is going out. now they broke down even how much um how much each officer shot so some a
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few of them only shot 33 times. i think one of them a few, like 11 shots and a couple several shot 18. but part of it also is that once the firing, the shooting begins, it becomes unclear who's shooting at home or the shots coming from and there's a sort of pile on effect . but the bottom line is that the a g videos of ohio said look, they were justified. each of them individually reached a conclusion that there was a threat. and they were justified . there's going to be an internal review in the police department there in akron, and they're going to have to account for all the bloods they fired. but as it is right now, you have this this grand jury of nine people who said that this was this was legally justified. thanks for explaining all that really helpful to understand. okay meanwhile, a source tells cnn that justice clarence thomas will now amend his financial disclosure forms now that a real estate deal he made with republican mega donor has come to light. jessica has the latest on this developing story for us. yes. every weekday, so many
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the essential and what? we're left with bedrooms for modern living. melanie's nana in washington, and this is cnn. mm hmm. justice clarence thomas is expected to amend his financial disclosure forms. source close to thomas tells cnn that the justice intends to amend the forms so that they reflect a real estate deal that he made with the gop mega donor . harlan crow back in 2014. justice thomas has also accepted and not reported luxury travel. from harlan crow. he and his wife, ginny, took trips with the crow family. jessica dean has been following this story closely for us. okay so there's
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a lot here. there's a lot to begin. what's gonna happen next ? that's a great question. well okay. if we're looking ahead to what comes next, then it naturally goes to the hill and calls for an investigation. we've heard from democrats that want him to be investigated by the kind of the appropriate council that would do that they no. you know, there have been all these calls for them to have an ethics code. what a lot of people may not know. is that the supreme court doesn't have a formal ethics code. that has been a shocker, right? it's almost like it goes against everything you would think would be. it's the supreme court, you know, high justice, but they haven't and back in 2019. even elena kagan was testifying on the hill and she said, listen, justice roberts is really thinking through this. we've been discussing this we were, you know, the lower courts have this but not the supreme court. and that was years ago and they just have not quite gotten there. so there's calls for these investigations. there's calls for them to put together
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an ethics code by the chair of the senate judiciary committee, dick durbin, but the fact of the matter is, congress doesn't have a terrible amount of power here, and it's worth noting. and you know, reminding everyone that the split in congress right now is not really set up for any of this to happen, right? because you have the house that is republican and then a very slight edge for democrats. in the senate. so the question of what happens next is like we're not even as probably people talk . if we're being honest, there'll be a lot of talk about it. but in terms of action that's a much heavier lift, right. and so there's that piece of it. and then i also want to ask you about what the mega donor harlan crow is saying, because we learned thanks to the reporting from propublica that this has been going on for two decades that justice thomas and his wife, ginny, have been taking these very luxurious trips with this family, courtesy of their private jet. for yacht travel. i think indonesia was one trip where they traveled around in these like yes,
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indonesia, california. i mean, what they say is that it would have been 500. half a million dollars had the thomases paid for this themselves. so what does harlan crow say about all of this? he actually has a quote that i think we can put up the talks about how they're legitimately friends and that he's kind of genuinely shocked that anyone would question a friendship and i think we can put that up now. i could read the whole thing to you. there it is. a lot of people that have opinions about this seem to think there's something wrong with this friendship. and he says, you know, it's possible that people are really just really friends. it blows my mind. that people assume that because clarence thomas has friends that those friends have an angle, i hear him. obviously we want everybody to be friends with whomever they want. but why didn't he disclose it in that we support friends on this show friends we like, why didn't why, then? was he keeping it a secret? write something, and i think that's a very important question. because it looks secretive, right? it looks like he's keeping this a secret because he's not disclosing it.
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and it goes back to kind of this . you know they have financial disclosure, but over the years, you know, it's kind of lacked more and more specificity for what exactly you have to disclose now with this real estate deal just to walk everybody through this latest thing and again excellent reporting by propublica here, but the real estate deal was three homes in georgia, where clarence thomas's from harlan crow bought those homes. his clearance. thomas's mother currently lives in one so she now lives rent free but pays insurance and taxes. clarence thomas says he doesn't have to report this because he took a loss on that deal. so he said that he and his wife put in 50 to $70,000 in capital improvements, but he only made some $40,000 on the sale. and so because he took a loss. he didn't have to disclose it. turns out that's not right. so he's now as we've said, our sources are saying he's going to have to amend that. um, but and then harlan crow in this case is
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saying, well, the only reason i bought these is because i think eventually there should be a museum honoring clarence thomas and his place in history. so but look at the you know, i work in washington d c. optics of things are very important, right. so let's just you know, even if you give everyone the benefit of the doubt here that it really was just an accident and oversight and think about what it looks like, right. okay question. what is clarence thomas sang about all this? is he using the like? we're just friends defense because i have friends but not friends that are taking me on half million dollar trips. this is you don't have the right. we get better for maybe we should be looking for love my friends. but don't you think that's unusual like is he saying anything about it? or he's just hiding? no he actually took the rare step of releasing a statement when the first bit of this reporting came out about the trips, and all of that. and he did comment on it and said, you know that again. he had been advised that he didn't have to report it. he's going to be a
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meaning that he wants to follow the rules. but other than that, you know again, like we don't see him out and about the time that you know, and especially the supreme court justices, on the whole are generally, you know, working and kind of keeping to themselves. they're not out and about all the time. flashy job do think it will be interesting to see how congress continues to approach this because if they do call him up to testify, which seems like it's possible like initially, durbin said. that he didn't really wanna put focal point on this specifically, but he would have conversations about confidence in the court. but now it seems like today, there were some comments where it seems like durban is more open to maybe having clarence summons come up and maybe even subpoenaing him to come up and talk to congress about this, so that's going to be like pretty interesting to see play out. absolutely and it's just so rare that we see these two bodies of government having to interact with each other in this way.
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such a great point. it is so rare that we see those two bodies of governments, two branches of government interacting with each other this way. it's a very rare thing. i think focus on senate judiciary for a second because of the democrats, small majority in the senate. they do have that subpoena power now, which is a big deal, however, you'll remember diane feinstein is absent right now, and she sits on that committee, which then kind of deadlocks them and it's they're having a hard time getting these nominees through. so what does that mean? going forward? how does that play out? you know it all kind of starts to connect back and back. you know to the other issues up there. let me let me get offended and right before we go. yeah well, you know, i think that people on the supreme court justices of the supreme court should be held to a higher standard. this is the highest standard really, i mean, it should be something that they want to do. they want they just regulated people to know that they are conflict free. there's full transparency here. my question really is about recourse even with even if congress established a new
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ethical code, okay, but like if he doesn't if he doesn't follow that code, which he hasn't been so far, you know what? what then happens it's a lifetime appointment, but i do think that people who are in this this high this high position should be held to the highest standard, and particularly someone who had ethics issues. let's let's call it in his confirmation and look , it's the highest court, right. i mean, you have a great point, and at the end of the day in terms of recourse, there's not a ton of avenues here, and that's what's kind of confounding about the whole thing. i think everyone or a lot of people would look at this, but i'm sure there's some something will happen. there'll be some sort of, you know something they can do and it's the kind of there's not a ton that they can do again . it's just a very, very unique branch of government in that way . very interesting. i mean, maybe now they will establish a code of ethics. and maybe this is the impetus that gets them. there may be other justices are now learning something that they shouldn't go on trips with like donors to either party. yeah
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at the leak and deeply concerned about its national security implications. okay, kylie, you've got some new reporting what's happening? yes so i mean , we now have mark milley, who is one of the top officials at the pentagon whose pissed about this and that's just significant because i think a lot of people have been downplaying this information that's out there. you know, it's not altogether surprising. and you know a lot of this, we knew. or maybe the russians already knew this information about the ukrainians . military capabilities. but if you have mark milley, who is the chairman of the joint chief of staff, being frustrated about this, there is in to believe that there is actual concern for the national security implications for the united states. and you know for the ukraine war and the like. obviously we have to, like, dig into that a little bit more to find out exactly why he's so frustrated, but i do think that is something for us to consider very seriously. help us. understand this is it crazy?
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that a 21 year old i t guy had access to all of this top secret information or do millions of people have access to this? maybe um, i think a lot of people have been dwelling on his age. his age doesn't really matter. right? we have americans who fight wars for us, and they have to have access to top secret information in order to affectively carry out their duties on the battlefield. you know, there are plenty of men and women in washington who have top secret security clearances and are very young age doesn't really matter. it's a question of what was the process like for him to get this top secret security clearance, right? how long did he have? how long was he vetted for? and when he was initially vetted? did they go back and let him again after he had already been on the job for a while, and we're his boss is watching over him while he was doing his jobs. did he have the capability to print documents?
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or was he actually stealing those documents from someone else in the office, right? so there are a lot of questions about his security clearance. but it's not necessarily you know that he was an air man who had this top security clearance. i think it's more having to do with the process related to how he got the clearance and then the follow up after he got it. question for your platform that he leaked. all of these documents on is discord, which is one of many newer, you know, sort of social media chat type of apps forever. we have heard the national security community talk about oh, russian disinformation on facebook or on twitter. but are they paying attention to these types of apps ? because it seems like more and more often, i'm hearing about things on discord. i'm hearing about things on reddit places that don't sound like they are part of everyday conversation in the pentagon. but maybe they are. i think that's a really good question. and it's what what the national security community intelligence community is now asking itself right now because the fact that these documents were on discord for
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months. before the pentagon actually started to investigate this before the department of justice started to investigate this after the new york times, was alerted to these documents being on the social media sites indicates that the intelligence community probably has to do a better job of monitoring. what are a number of social media sites to make sure that this kind of thing isn't happening. and i also think you know when we talk about it being on these documents, having been on discord just to remind folks it wasn't as if he dumped these in in one fell swoop. it was over the course of months, and it was , you know different dumps on different topics at different times. and so that's why we're seeing this slow drip of information come out because some of those documents lived on discord for awhile and then were taken down or put on two different social media sites. and so now we're watching in real time as those documents are. found on corners of the internet and reporters are able
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to report on different u s classified secrets as they find these documents. i mean, that's the thing right, like any pr person will tell you. it's the drip drip drip that will kill you like it's just like it keeps coming. there's more and more stories, but i'm curious, though, like kylie, where are we with the fallout in all of this? because we know millions pissed clearly. but like, where are we in terms of where we are with our allies with our adversaries , like what happens now is all of that. so when i talked to us allies, particularly five eyes, countries, and so those are the countries that we share intelligence with so that those are the brits, the canadians, the australians and the new zealand bites. when you talk to them, they are extremely frustrated because they share intelligence with us and we share our intelligence with them. meaning that this classified top secret us intelligence information could have come from their sources. and now it's out in the open and that jeopardizes their capability to continue collecting that intelligence so
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they're extremely frustrated, but what they're not saying right now, at least, is that they're going to stop sharing with the u. s. so i think this is, you know, this is a road bump. and this is not a great situation, but they do appear to be getting through this and recognizing that this was you know. one airmen, a 21 year old who is doing this to impress his friends, and hopefully they can get beyond it when it comes to the implications in terms of the changes that need to be made to security clearances and the like. that's what we're watching play out in real time, and this week congress is going to have a briefing expected later this week. a classified briefing to kind of bring them up to speed as to where the department of justice criminal investigation into takita actually stands, and then also where the pentagon's investigation into the implications of these documents stands as well and very quickly because we have to go soon. but athena, you were asking something funny, which is like why can't an alarm bell ring if you print out something, but did
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he print it out? or did he take like a screen? grab of the stuff or write it down. what it looks like is he took the documents, folded them up and put them in his pocket. and i say that because all of them have four wrinkles on them. that would show where you you know, would actually folded documents, took them home and then took pictures of them and put them onto the social media. right we do need a bell to go off when we also would be there somehow exists. but we also know if he was the one who printed them. he could have been picking from other people's desks. but the printer log is going to be key here. we shouldn't have been on their desk, though. also just sitting there. problems. thank you very much for all of that. okay up next on the lookout. our reporters are going to tell us what they're looking out for on the horizon. own a small to medium sized business. . you may qualify for the employer retention tax credit up to $26,000 per employee, not alone
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a pro for that probe like it never even happened. okay i wonderful panel of reporters are going to tell us what stories they are keeping an eye on recall this on the lookout. okay jessica, what do you look? ron desantis florida governor potential 2024 candidate heads to d. c tomorrow to meet with gop lawmakers and when trump is demanding that everyone get on board, it's going to be very interesting to see who meets with him and watching that, and the other thing that everyone needs to keep watching is the debt ceiling because that is continuing to kind of come to the forefront, and that is what we're going to be talking about the deadline. it's an in the next several months, but they're just not moving very quickly, and but there is going to be some movement this week with the republicans so but i don't think it's gonna actually go anywhere . more theater. alison great. good to hear it fantastic two things, but keeping on netflix reports earnings tomorrow after the bell and they had a huge
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disruption yesterday, folks were trying to watch the love is blind reunion live and it crashed and it didn't work. so they're going to have to explain to investors what happens, but then the other big thing we're watching is that google ceo sundar pichai did an explosive interview with 60 minutes on sunday, basically saying that he doesn't know how his ai works. that's going to be a story that we're going to be following up on for years to come. i mean, we all need to be listening to him sound the alarm on that. if he's saying he doesn't understand how their ai works, i think we all need to take heed of that. i agree. yeah. all right. thank you for that, kylie. ukraine there's going to be hearing on wednesday. the chairman of the house foreign affairs committee is holding hearing on the atrocities that russians have committed in ukraine, the war crimes and the like, and his goal here, according to sources is to try and get republicans who are wary of continued support for ukraine on board with the need to continue supporting the ukrainian, so we'll see how that goes, but it's going to be a pretty moving hearing, and we'll see if
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politically it works. okay. thank you, athena. well in akron we've seen already in this grand jury reached this conclusion not to bring charges against the officers, but they're still going to be an internal investigation by akron police department into you know whether they acted appropriately and we understand, at least from the lawyer representing the family of dealing walker that they do plan to file a civil, a civil case a civil suit, he said that they would do it by the time of the first of the anniversary of jalen walker's death, which is in in late june or so, so maybe not tomorrow, but that's what we're looking for. or in the coming days out of that case, and in terms of just the community. how do they respond? because again seeing that video which has resurfaced, you know, people may have forgotten about it, but it's re traumatizing a lot of ways. seeing that many hearing that many gunshots and so people might, you know, we'll see what they how they respond for sure, ladies. thank you so much for sharing all of your reporting with us. it's so great to have you all of your tonight. okay? make sure you tune in to cnn this morning. tomorrow don has a one on one with billy
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