work pays off going to survive on that. i mean, where is caitlin her? most talk about huge fan. how could we forget? that's right. that's right. alabama, right, andy. yeah that's why i said he went to alabama transferred to oklahoma did well there as well now. hey hi, spain. lot of dough. look, congratulations and good luck. thanks, andy. good to see you. cnn this morning continues right now. two felony counts filed in the shooting of a black teenager in kansas city. missouri suspect told police that he was quote scared to death due to the teens . size can tell you there was a racial component to the inexplicable. there is no way you can justify this. what's about to happen in this $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit against fox over election lies

expecting to be right back here at nine am for jury selection and opening statements. in this case for fox. it might be worth it to see this in front of a jury and see if they can get a lower down amount than what they would have to settle for fourth. florida's governor, escalating his right against disney, suggesting competing directly with the mouse. should we do with this land? maybe you need another state prison who knows? the possibilities are endless. you're not gonna win a fight with american people against the wall disney company. this has gone from kind of going after a headline to something that convoluted the entire republican message. calls for justice for jalen walker after in ohio grand jury declined to indict eight officers in his shooting down. they believed that at that moment in time when he was running from that car, he still had his weapon on him utterly failed them again. hearts are hurting. our hearts are heavy. you were convicted of fraud. you spent nearly four years in prison. why would anyone want to

do anything with you. i bring people together. i think anyone would be a fool to believe you have two options. i could crawl in a hole and admit that everything i did was wrong. at least try. i can't wait for that interview interview was fire fire. nice one. nice one lot of news. good morning, everyone. welcome in. we've got a lot of news from russia to kansas city to right here in new york, where i interviewed the fire festival person. the fraudster as he's been called, but a lot of big news happening. we're in the middle of as i said yesterday, a very big news site and let's start in russia because happening now wall street journal reporter evan girsky, which is in a moscow courtroom, he is appealing the terms of his pretrial detention, asking to be placed under house arrest instead of jail while he awaits trial. he did not appeal his arrest or the actual merits of the case today. his appearance in court comes nearly three

weeks after he was arrested on espionage charges, an allegation that he and the u. s government vehemently deny the state department has deemed him wrong. hopefully detained right now you're looking at live pictures that is outside of the moscow courthouse. you can see a microphone set up. we don't know who's planning on speaking after this hearing, of course, when they do, we'll bring it to you live that story capturing the world's attention, and this one capturing the nation's attention and white homeowner is now facing charges for shooting a black teenager who rang his doorbell. no kansas city police say that he opened fire on 16 year old ralph yarborough through his glass front door. that was last week. you also said that he went to the wrong house to pick up his younger brothers, and the homeowner started shooting almost immediately when he answered the doorbell. the teenager managed to run away after being shot twice, including once in the head. now he is home from the hospital. the family's attorney, benjamin crump, says it's inexplicable that police release a suspect on the night of the shooting. to have. black people

rang the doorbell and then have a white citizen. shoot him in the head. first and then shoot him a second time. i mean, there is no way you can justify this. the homeowner told police that he feared for his life and thought it was a break in. but the teen's family says that you're all is a harmless and sweet kid and honorable student and the leader of the marching band. cnn's lucy cavanaugh's live at the scene for us this morning, lucy. good morning to you. the suspect himself told police that he started shooting within a few seconds of opening that door. i don, this is the door. the home where this incident unfolded. the 84 year old homeowners said he was going to bed. he heard the doorbell ring went to check to see who it was, didn't recognize the teenager and opened fire. no words were exchanged. the defendant, andrew d. lester is

charged with the class a felony assault in the first degree dependent, is charged with armed criminal action, two felony counts filed after a black teenager is shot and seriously wounded in kansas city, missouri , i can tell you there was a racial component. the case. it was on april 13th when 16 year old ralph charles intended to pick up his younger siblings and rang the doorbell at 115th street instead of 115th terrace , one block difference with major consequences. it's still even today. is complete shock. that anybody would do that, according to a probable cause statement, lester told investigators he was scared to death by arles size and his inability to defend himself at age 84. he also told investigators he was in bed when he heard his doorbell ring and grabbed a handgun before answering the door. he stated he believed someone was attempting to break into the house and shot twice during exterior storm door within a few seconds of opening

the main door, police detective writes in the court document. the fact that you opened a door. and then shoot the person on the other side. and it's a kid in an interview with a detective on friday, charles said he pressed the doorbell and waited. he stayed at the mail inside, took a long time but finally opened the door holding a firearm, he stated. he was immediately shot in the head and fell to the ground was shot twice, with bullets, striking him in the left forehead and right arm, according to the probable cause statement. my nephew is alive. yes healing. it is not the story that that individual intended for us to tell. charles was released from the hospital and is recovering at home fund. me page set up by his aunt had already exceeded $2.5 million goal. justice for around for justice have spread in the community, and the prosecutor says his office is looking forward to obtaining a just

result. if convicted on the assault charge, lester could spend the rest of his life in prison, the prosecutor says. we understand how frustrating this has been. but i can assure you that the criminal justice system is working and will continue to work. and you heard relatives there. this could have been a very different story. the teenager is lucky to have survived, but he faces a long physical recovery, not to mention the emotional and mental trauma from this tragic, tragic incident, guys. no doubt, lucy. thank you very much. i appreciate that and straight ahead in our next hour. we're going to speak with ralph charles and faith spoon more with more on how the team is doing this morning. there's also a similar case in upstate new york, where a homeowner has now been charged with murder. investigators say he shot and killed this one. moment just 20 years old after she pulled into the wrong driveway. fringing grass is following the case, share her name with us and what's going on in gillis? 20

years old. as you said, no. this happened in hebrew, new york over the weekend that is a rural part of the state. it's important to kind of keep that in mind because what happened was according to the sheriff's department is kaylin along with three of her friends. they were in a car looking for a friend's house when they didn't have gps because of cell service in that area. they pulled into the house of this suspect, 65 year old kevin monahan didn't get out of the car didn't have any interaction with monaghan and started to actually leave the house the driveway when monaghan , according to authorities came out, got on the porch and shot two shots at the car hitting the car. and hitting gillis. it took the friends a little while five miles they had to drive in order to get cell phone service to call 911. paramedics arrived to the area where they were able to park and they tried to resuscitate gillis. but she died there at the scene. now the sheriff actually knew the gillis family. it seems like he knew gillis herself, and he talked a little bit about her saying how she was just a lovely look great, lovely young woman with from a lovely family, and he

talked more about the senselessness of this tragedy. take a listen as young adults. they were in the area looking for her friend's house. it's a very rural area roads, it's easy to get lost. they drove up this driveway. for a very short time. realize their mistake. and we're leaving. when. mr monti had came out and fired two shots. happy as you said he is charged with second degree murder. kevin kevin monahan. he didn't have great interaction with the police. they showed up at his door. he didn't want to leave an hour standoff there. they finally took him into custody and his behind bars this morning and now what for the investigation, he said. it's behind bars. but what's next? so they're still investigating this? like i said, no interaction with the police, according to authorities in say anything to sort of incriminate himself, but we're looking to see who his lawyer is going to talk to him or her, and he has a court date coming up. tragedy friend. thank you for the update

thinking of her whole family. just 20 years old. this morning, one of the biggest media trials in american history will begin dominion voting systems landmark defamation suit against fox news , the delaware judge overseeing this case announced it will start today without ever explaining why there was the delay right. why didn't start yesterday as planned? dominion is suing for $1.6 billion in damages of fox spokesperson yesterday. claimed dominion had actually lowered the amount that was seeking. but dominion says no, they're still looking for $1.6 billion in damages. today the judge will see the jury 12 jurors, 12 alternates, then we can see opening statements and if there's time, the court could begin to hear testimony today from witnesses. quite a list of witnesses chairman rupert murdoch, as well as several prominent fox news host, including tucker carlson. sean hannity could be called to testify, joining us outside the courthouse in wilmington's delaware, cnn media analyst and axios media reporter sarah fisher. sarah good morning to you. so what are we gonna see

today? no settlement morning. not yet, although it's 7 10 am i suppose there's time. that's right, poppy. we still have two more hours so there could be a last minute settlement. but if not, we're expecting as reporters to be let in around 88 30, as you mentioned will start with the finalization of the jury selection before we get into opening arguments and possible witness testimony. this is a landmark case. you see, there's tons of press around here. there's getting a lot of attention here in wilmington's delaware because it has huge implications for the first amendment, and it has big implications for how fox might handle its coverage in 2024, but we're going to be watching for two today is whether or not we get any clearer indication of which of some of those big witnesses that you mentioned will be coming here to the court . it might be as soon as today. it might be for the rest of the week, but the trial is expected to last six weeks. poppies so we might be here waiting for a little while. interesting, so a lot of high profile people. obviously they're concerned about optics, foxes boxes. any company would be a tent has been

set up. we understand outside the courthouse there, apparently to shield high profile figures as they enter and leave the court. how how concerned you think fox is about the details that might come from this trial and pictures of their anchors video of their anchors entering and leaving a courtroom. not necessarily something that they want out there in the zeitgeist. no they're definitely trying to protect their top executives and top talent. but fox has one thing on its side. which is that the judge in this trial judge eric davis, has said that he will not allow courtroom cameras , which means that we're not going to get any viral video from this case the way that we did with amber heard and johnny depp almost recently gwyneth paltrow. so any pictures that you might see coming from this are only going to come from that talent walking in and out of the building to your point. they've erected a big tent, so it looks like we're not going to be able to see them that's meant to protect them, and it's also meant to protect people like rupert murdoch, who don't want to be seen here having to take heat for some of the things that

happen on its air. i also expect one of the more contentious things to happen is when we get those executives inside testifying as witnesses we already have a sense of what some will say again. rupert murdoch did have to testify in some of the pretrial hearings. but others we've never heard from, you know, we have leaked text messages from folks like tucker carlson. but we hadn't heard him take the stand. i'm curious to see what he would have to say. like we all are, sarah. thanks very much for your great coverage under way soon to the supreme court could decide the fate of the common abortion drug. kristen is soon as today just department took the emergency dispute over the drug to the supreme court late last week after parts of a lower court ruling in texas were set to go into effect over the weekend, restricting access to it. supreme court justice samuel alito, issuing a temporary state on that ruling friday to give the justices more time to consider the issue. but time is running out. the challengers have until noon today to submit filings to the court. after

that, a decision on the issue is imminent. all of this as the hold on the lower court ruling is set to expire wednesday at 11 59 pm for more now. bringing cnn senior supreme court analyst john biskupic. john good morning to you, so walk us through where things stay in this morning. sure. good morning, dan and poppy. the biden administration has made its defense. it got a five day postponement of everything. it has its arguing that if the lower court orders take effect, there'll be regulatory chaos. the challenges are going to come in, as you say by noon today, and then i expect the biden administration and the drug manufacturer danko. to try to submit some quick reply briefs. and then as you say, the supreme court has by its own deadline until 11 59 wednesday night to act or the lower court orders dramatically restricting access to the drug will take effect. i actually think the

supreme court will try not to wait until nearly midnight tomorrow night, and we'll act sooner than that. so then what? right? what will the vita ministrations do? what's their strategy seeing where this goes and the challenger strategy? sure there's a really strong point being made in the new biden filing that came in last week, and that's about what any kind of hybrid orders affect is on this. the fifth circuit tried to say, okay, the fda original approval from 2000 stands but not all these other provisions since 2016. that made the drug more available, created an option for a generic version. and what the fda biden administration representing the fda is saying is that that has actually caused even more confusion and what's available. if these lower court orders stand, there will have to be new labor, new labeling effectively , the drug would have to almost

be unavailable for a while. while that goes on, and there would be no generic, so what it's tried to do is paint a picture that says don't don't mess with fda authority and regulations at this point, take the time to hear this case because you can't do anything on the fly here the way the lower courts did. meanwhile the challenges are going to say, papi. what the fda did in the beginning was flawed. it will point it will assert some errors in the scientific determinations and friend of the court briefs who will file on their side are going to talk about the harms to women. they're going to argue that something that the fda has said is purely speculative and, frankly, just doesn't exist. poppy we'll see where they go by midnight tomorrow. if not sooner , joan. thanks very much. thank you. john i want to get to this because happening right now, take a look at these. you're looking at live pictures. this is the wall street journal reporter evan herskovits inside a moscow courtroom. this is

where he is appealing the terms of his pretrial detention again live pictures to see him there behind plexiglas. um appearing to sign papers. here this is a pretrial sort of for his detention. he is appealing his pretrial detention. he is writing notes here and speaking with representatives again live pictures coming from a moscow court. it is 2 16 pm there. he has been speaking to his lawyer from behind that plexiglass u. s ambassador to russia also in that courtroom. she is in the light blue suit. we're gonna keep monitoring the situation for you. but that is the latest coming out of russia as it relates to the wall street journal reporter evan gerst ceviche hampshire governor christie new new is showing a stark warning to his fellow republicans that they cannot win the white house on their own. he's going to join us live here at the table to talk about it also, maybe run for president. ah desantis. people billy are

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ain't gonna happen for us. we can yell and scream all we want, but we won't winners we want winners for tomorrow. and so we got to be inspirational. we've got to be big again bigger than ourselves. got to be bigger than ourselves. joining us now is the man himself. also possible 2024 presidential candidate will get into that in a moment. republican governor of new hampshire christine noonan governor. it's so nice to be at the table. good morning. great to be here. great to be in new york. i just ask you the first question to you, manager. would you speak at the n r e? why did you speak them? why would i speak at the n r a. well, there's 80,000 individuals there. why not speak at the end when you have the opportunity to go and stand in front of thousands of people and talk about the record of success of new hampshire? not just in terms of firearm, mars and all that, but where we want to take the party? obviously there's a lot of republicans at the nra, obviously very strongly considering running for president, so there's a voter base out there. i think there's a big message that has to be told that isn't being told enough. which is how do we get bigger? how do we make this party bigger? how do we bring that? justin franchise voter back on the team. we lost pretty

big in 2022. i don't care what folks say 49 u. s senators is not enough. and we lost some governorships. we probably should have one so i can try to make the team bigger and any opportunity to talk to you concerned about alienating voters that you may especially the independent. so you were talking about their by speaking at the convention when you see what's happening with gun violence across the country and no, no look, it's very easy to politically conflate the nra and gun violence and mass shootings and all this. i get it. i mean, look. the governor, a mass shooting. no one is immune mass shootings and all these issues could happen at any point in time. but when you look at new hampshire's record of sex success were one of the most flexible when it comes to the second amendment and firearms regulations, and yet we're still one of the safest states in the country. so my message is. it's not just about the gun laws and just about passing more laws and patting ourselves on the back and trying to take a win. that's not what gets it done. you've got to deal with mental health issues. you've got to deal with the core of those issues and violence. and i think again, it's very easy to get caught up in that political discussion. some of the places where the most restrictive gun laws in the country have the highest rates

of gun violence, so you can't cannot make that direct correlation would you consider because in your state you haven't been very good on on gun rights. look there's a lot of blame people around great on gun rights, actually, well, it's well, basically and in 2020 you signed a law was the house bill 7, 11 78 that basically hamstrung um people who are trying to create sensible gun laws in your state, so i'm just wondering if you you don't you have no concern about. of course, we have concern on violence. sensible gun laws. of course. look, so folks talk about let's say a red flag law. okay let's take a place like chicago. they have one of the most restrictive red flag laws in the country. they have some of the highest rates of gun violence. i think a red flag law has been implemented less than a dozen times in the past couple of years, so it's easy to say yeah, well, just, you know, take the guns from those with mental illness, but it's much harder to actually implement the realities of that are much more about taking gun laws. this is what i'm trying to this is house bill 11 78. you created a new statute prohibiting any representative of your state or political

subdivision from taking action involving any federal firearms law that is not consistent with with your state law, basically hamstring anyone who wants to create in your state sensible gun legislation. yeah what we said is if we pass a firearm regulation in the state, we followed the firearms regulation in the state if job i didn't want to pass an executive order taking guns and restricting guns . that's a federal issue will let the feds take care of that. we have our state laws. i'm a big states rights. individual states come. first states are much more important and should be much more powerful than the federal executive orders that arbitrary, arbitrarily written by the president, so that's simply what that's saying. the feds want to passed laws and rules that they can take care of that. we'll pass our laws and rules and we'll take care of it in new hampshire, um i want to move on to some other topics as well. i would note that one of the arguments some that disagree with you on gun laws make. is it a lot of the states that's around new hampshire have stricter gun laws. they say that that as part of the reason that you have fewer gun deaths in the state, but i want other time. i

want to talk about a lot of other topics. one thing that i think is fascinating is your argument about we need more. we need not just republicans. we need independence. i wonder if you think ron desantis is doing a good job of inviting independence into the party by taking on disney, you know, private, the private sector going after it in this way that he continues to do and signing the six week abortion ban because you've been you were talking to erin fascinating and re last night. you're pretty critical of both. yes. no i am. look i think republican leadership across this country gets too wrapped up and i think we can say the same for democrats but the republican so i'm going to take our side on it. we get too wrapped up in talking in our own echo chamber. telling each other things we want to hear, as opposed to saying why are the independents coming on board? why are why are young republicans disenfranchised and not participating in the conversation? so i wouldn't pin this just on ron or or former president trump? i think both of them have issues. that and a lot of us do where we get in politics. we like to hear. we like to say something. and then

here's some someone reaffirm its like an endorphin rush or something politically, but at the end of the day, that's not what gets our message out. that isn't an empathetic ear. what's what's the issue that a young voter wants to hear about? i think that young republicans now they care about the environment. they're not social social climate change crazy. they're not socialist and all that kind of wacky green new deal stuff, but they want to know republicans are making smart, fiscal responsible investments in the environment. i think republicans should own the homeless issue. homelessness is a disaster in a place like california. you can't blame a single republican. for that. the left wing liberals have to take full accountability for the inhumane treatment of individuals, homeless individuals in california. i have the lowest poverty rate in the country. it's not by accident. we do hard work to make sure we get folks treatment and housing and all of those sorts of things. i think there's an opportunity there to grab on issues that people want to hear before we run out of time because it seems like you were answering the first question that i asked this what i said when i when i talk to you about why i speak at the nra where you're saying you want to. you want to bring people in. you just don't want to speak to an

echo chamber, and that's what i feel like. sometimes the n r a is so since you're talking about those issues about homelessness, let's talk about abortion. but you're talking about owning that it seems like now republicans are owning the abortion issue. i'm not sure if it's going to be good for them. time will tell. but this is a clip from cnn last night that i want to play. watch this. it should be really clear, the court said. states need to can be making this decision. it's a states issue. it's not a presidential issue is not desantis saying six week ban. i'm not cool with that at all. it's awful awful message. you say that you think that florida six week ban on abortion is wrong, but at the same time you said that you respect the state's decision to have its own laws. it's kind of like your half in and half out on this. can you explain their own issues? the voters can talk to the legislation the governors and decide where that's going to go. on the issue of six weeks. i think that's not the right issue. we in new hampshire 24 week ban or 24 weeks of choice, which most states have same as new york or massachusetts. places like that. that seems to be where most of america is, but states have to make their own

issues and decide their path. in terms of the messaging. look, every time the republicans are talking about abortion. we're losing right because we don't do it well as a party, right? i think the next generation of republican isn't that's not a top priority for them. i think we need to talk about things that matter like inflation and homelessness and mental health, access and drug opioid and drug treatment, recover. every programs. those are the things that impact families every single day, and every time we start trying to wrap ourselves as a party around the axle on where we should be on abortion, look it should be a states issue. it should be added, it is effectively out of the hands of the federal government that we shouldn't be doing national abortion bans or anything like that. and every time we talk like that, and every time we talk about more restrictive laws were losing, except it's in the hands of a you know what the federal judge just did out of amarillo, texas, made it federal. i wonder if you disagree with that. in terms of the abortion pill sounds like you would disagree with. how did one judge start to arbitrarily take away what has been around for 20 years? let's start with that. who is this guy? that cases? targeted for him.

specifically he's the only judge as you know, in that county can hear that people do judge shopping in this country, and it's unfortunate but on the federal on the federal circuit, if you will, you can have one individual that is an elected by most of the country. frankly i don't think any judge should be elected. by the way they should should be appointed another debate for another time, i would love to have with you because i think people don't talk about that enough. okay? can we just before you go? i know where i know we're short on time, but, you know, you're here at the table. why why done? why why do you want to be president? look i am not one of those people that wake up and go. this country is going to hell in a handbasket and you no doubt i am very optimistic. i think all these do we have serious issues. they can all be fixed. they can all be changed with good leadership. never accept that four years isn't enough. never accept that. well, i didn't have my party in power. former president trump had republicans in power in the senate and house and still got very, very little done. didn't during the swamp like he promised didn't provide border security like you promised. didn't you know, managed with fiscally responsible means like you promised, so there's always

a way to do it as a four term. governor record of success. i can work with anyone solve any issue and not because of me because we build the right teams and we come with the right approach. you want to be hold on one second. you do want to be president. then i think i could do the job. yeah so that might be the closest that you've come yet. i'm looking at it. i'll make a decision that it's a big decision for the family for the process for the party. the same question is what i'm just going to say. why not? just say it? we got like 1234, literally. my wife is texting me right now. what is going on? look we'll have the whole discussion and i'm not here to sell books. i'm not here to sell christian. you know, i'm here to sell the opportunity that i think america brings where the most generous country in the world where every day. we should wake up and be grateful that we get to live in a place like this with the opportunities that we have. so i just see everyone being negative and all that kind of negativity and yelling at each other. i think there's hope i really think there's opportunity. and if it's a christian in a way or some other some other candidate to bring it to the table. that's

a win for america bad i'm in the campus. you're you decide with your wife before you say anything. the governor on that. hey, it's really nice to have you hope you'll come back. absolutely it's a lot of fun. thank you much. thank you for coming in. just in a moscow court has just decided on detained wall street journal reporter evan gorski. this is appeal with us ambassador to russia is saying that straight ahead, also the fbi cracking down on a fake police station here in the heart of new york city. this is such an important story what the chinese were trying to do in this city to those who don't agree with the regime. so why not just say it? do you know what if my most important kitchen tool, my brain so i c choose doriva plus, unlie some others, areva plus is a multititasker supporting six key indicators of brain health. help keep me sharp, areva. think bigger. hey man, youould save hundreds for safe drivg with liberty mutual. they customize

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able to meet evan yesterday at lefortovo prison. it was the first time we were granted consular access since his wrongful detention more than two weeks ago. yeah i can report that using good health. and remain strong despite his circumstances. we will continue to provide all appropriate support to evan and his family and we expect russian authorities. to provide continued consular access to evan. charges against evan are baseless and we call on the russian federation to immediately release him. we also call for the immediate release of paul whelan. paul has been held more than four years in russia. both men deserve to go home to their families. now, thank you. that was us ambassador to russia and tracy

and we're getting new details this morning about an alleged plot by the chinese government to spy on also do intimidate chinese dissidents living here in the united states of the fbi yesterday announced the arrest of two people they say are agents of china who are running a secret and illegal police station right in the middle of new york city, right in lower manhattan, the pyramid, their first appearance in court yesterday. the justice department also charged 34 officers of china's national police and plots targeting people living here in the us joining the south cnn chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller. john this has been discussed a lot prior to this questions to city officials about whether this was happening here in new york. now the feds say this is happening. are there more? and what does it mean? well there's 100 of these chinese police outposts around the world human rights group did a study from the netherlands canada wherever there is a significant chinese expat

community. one of these quiet police substations has opened up. so during an interview with the fbi, the one of the accused agents said that he had established the office to help chinese nationals living in the united states renew their chinese government documents. is that what do you think of that explanation? i think that is a perfectly logical explanation, because if you're trying to gather metadata information, personal information on an expat community um saying you can come in here and establish your identification name. date of birth will get your driver's license taken care of back in china. it's a great way to figure out okay, let's make a list who's on the ground? you're getting a lot of data. when somebody comes in to fill out. you know a driver's license for him. it's a way to lure them exactly, but i mean, these are very complicated operations, so to understand the breath of this . you have chinese agents attempting to recruit new york

city. chinese police officers. um as you know, uh, as sub agents, you have chinese police officers going out throughout new york, but beyond their into the suburbs, visiting chinese expats saying you've been posting bad things on twitter or social media about china and you were in trouble and this could affect your family at home and you need to stop. or conversely , you need to come back to china or bad things are going to happen to your family. one of the things that we went through in the nypd. when i was running the intel program, there was um , a lot of work with the chinese consul general in new york, saying we want to sign an mou with the nypd, saying that our operations are cooperating. and you know, in discussions with the fbi, they said they used these letters across the country with other police to say no, we work with the nypd. you know, we're here on the ground with permission. so this is a far reaching operation. we're

reaching and frightening. thank you. we appreciate it. john miller. it was a tropical music festival. that never happened. so why is the man behind the failed fire fest? trying to do it all over again. i one on one interview is next. how can you have fire festival two when fire festival one was such a bust done before we get there. the overall goal is to pay everybody back while still doing something incredible, but you still didn't answer my question. come on danny y mcbride to go to work. you're gonna stick this stuff. tony called a sex stops. you've got a ippet to believe it. certified organic mattress are just the start to creating a natural bedroom oasis discover our organic bedding, pillows,

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have to worry about interest fees. credit checks. my scores of 80 points. join me chime .com german and eastern ukraine. this is cnn. desperate people do desperate things. he was lying to investors making it seem like we were making a ton of money when you weren't i mean, that's fraud. we need to get the messaging out now that this is not a luxury music festival. there was mattresses all over the place getting soaked the save yourself mode kicked in free for all became this looting mentality. there's an angry mob there pissed off and they want their money. the events co founder is facing up to 20 years in prison. it's hard to believe it's been this long, nearly six years after the infamous fire festival flamed out. the organizer of the party that never was is out of prison and giving it another go or so, he says. convicted fraudster billy mcfarland tweeting last week fire festival two is finally

happening. tell me why you should be invited and follow up tweet, he wrote. it's in the best interests of those i o for me to be working. people aren't getting paid back if i sit on the couch, and he owes a lot of victims as a matter of fact, mcfarlane was released last year after spending close to four years in prison. he pleaded guilty in 2018 to 2 counts of wire fraud for his role in defrauding fire festival investors and ticket vendors of about $26 million. i spoke with billy mcfarland in his first interview since his announcement. here's our conversation. how can you have fire festival two when fire festival one was such a bust done before we get there. the overall goal is to pay everybody back while still doing something incredible. but you still didn't answer my question. yes. so i think the first time around. i just didn't understand the magnitude of the vision and probably more importantly, the magnitude of the logistics that were required to execute that.

and i need to go about it completely differently this time around. obviously, it was a colossal nightmare for a lot of people and for you because you were convicted of fraud. you spent nearly four years in prison over this failed festival , so i know you said you want to pay everyone back or what have you will get to that? why would any performer or festivalgoers or investor or anyone want to do anything with you? considering what happened the last time since getting out of jail, just been looking at what opportunities i have to pay people back. and i've been pitched on every iteration of a fire festival from a local nightclub all the way up to a sovereign wealth fund. and i put out a tweet a week ago, just to really test the waters and see. is there still appetite for this idea? after six years? it's already been six years, and the response has been insane. that's on social media. you mean social media? but i mean is that the real world? people may say things on social media. you actually think they'll show up for something? considering what happened? i didn't know and it was really just to test the validity of these offers. i have

and to understand what kind of partners i need to do this and their responses wild people just want to help from providing catering to performing. okay, so you have investors. you have caterers. you have performers who i can't speak on all of this yet, but it's really about figuring out what i am good at focusing on the marketing, focusing on bringing people together and just getting help, so i don't have to touch the areas where i should not be touching. so you can't name a single performer or caterer or any investor. so like we have not scheduled a festival, there is no fire festival, too. on the books. at this point, we were literally just like testing. the interest in the concept, and i think the whole world saw how wild that went with one tweet, and their response has been great, and it's like leads me to try to find the best partners for us. so then what about a venue then? so i think like this time around, i am not dealing with any of that. i am just focusing on my skill set. i'm doing marketing. i'm bringing people together and i will allow my great team and my great

partners to handle everything else. you said. you're not focusing on any of that you just focusing on the marketing, but that was the problem last time, wasn't it that you focus on the marketing and you didn't focus on the actual carrying out of the event, the particulars like shelter, food, performance, and so forth. so aren't you like setting yourself up for the same issue that you had? last time? i was 25 year old kid who thought that i could figure it all out at the last minute and i realize now that there's just so much i don't know that i'm not capable of and there is no rush. it's all about me just getting help, and i can't pay people back if i don't try and i need to try honestly and try to get the best help. i can get. okay speaking of paying people back, you have been ordered to pay back $26 million of investors and vendors money. how much have you paid back? i paid around 30,000 since by sentence ended on august 30th. and i've literally gone to the court every three or four weeks and given a check, you know 17 check since august 30th $30,000.26 million. i have to

start somewhere, unfortunately, did not come out with any money under my mattress and just doing my best to work and pay people back, and i think one thing that's really interesting is that whenever i do work there is, i guess some backlash as to why i'm trying to do anything and done. i don't know how to cook cereal, so you don't want me making your coffee at dunkin donuts in the morning. you want me out there trying to get the help i can get and going forward. even if you are a good marketer. that doesn't mean that the event is going to, um to run smoothly are even happen. for me, like the hardest part was the trust i violated from the people who i've known for years. and that's a keeps me up at night and i can't ask for trust, but i can ask for time. okay well, speaking of 11 restaurant owner said that in this netflix documentary did you see the documentary? i have not watched the fire festival that she spent $50,000 of her own savings preparing for the festival and was paid nothing from organizers in may of 2017. she told the new york times that she was owed

$134,000. so the question is, are you going to be able to pay these people back before you launch this festival? so i'm working with andy king to cook cheese sandwiches, and i've been in touch with marianne. andy really stepped up and was able to raise $200,000 for her, so she has been paid back in full. which is amazing. i believe i still owe her as well on top of that, and it is my attention to get everybody paid back as quickly as possible, but i need to do it the right way. and last time i just tried to go too fast , and i can't do that. you talked about the cheese sandwich, right? everyone remembers the food that you served at the fire festival. this bread with two slices of cheese, soggy lettuce and tomato people pay thousands of dollars for this billy, and that's what they got. so i am going to eat my own sandwich. i'm getting behind the griddle this weekend with eddie king and we are going to cook these to raise money for the bahamas. have you personally apologized to people for what happened? i have and this road is going to take years to really

properly apologize. i think i owe trust more than anything else, and unfortunately, it just takes time. okay, let's talk about trust because even after the fire fiasco. you launched a sham ticket scheme. you pleaded guilty in that scam. you sold bogus tickets to fashion music and sporting events like the met gala here in new york and the grammys. so why would anyone trust you operating? legitimate business going forward? i've had years in prison to think about this and i have two options. i could crawl in a hole and admit that everything i did was wrong, which is totally fair. working at least try and i might not succeed and i might fail, but i'm going to fail or succeed, honestly, and i believe that's how i can find pride. so you created the fire festival with rapper jay rule. he tweeted this . i'm sorry. we didn't reach out . he tweeted. i don't know nothing about it. i ain't in it. he doesn't want to do business with you. do you think they're serious? people are going to want to go into business with canadian publicist what do you

mean? he wasn't involved in the first one, so he's not going to be involved in the second one, and i truthfully just didn't know what the appetite would be . and after i tweeted literally had thousands of people from caterers to music artists to people who just want to be there, all reaching out, saying they believed in version two people billy are going to say, don't you have any shame? and you say times and like i've cried alone and solitary confinement for 10 months, i've ruined the lives of family and friends, so it's going to be a 20 year mountain to try to climb and i might not make it. that was fascinating interview. you think he's going to do it? you don't know. okay i don't. i don't think anyone wants to work with him. okay? considering you will watch next ron desantis taking on disney yet again. what he says could go next door to disney world. we have that. the city custom cash card

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sarcastically. it sounded like a building a prison on the land next to the theme park. this feud between the sanderson disney started when disney took a position against florida's what is called by critics. they don't say gay billet limits classroom instruction at a certain age of sexual orientation and gender identity. let's talk about where this goes from here. capitol bureau chief for the miami herald mary ellen classes year she's reported extensively on governor desantis no better voice inures to explain to us where on earth maybe not the happiest place on earth to be in the middle of this feud. where does this go? well, the next stop is were. the florida legislature is in session right now, and the governor has asked the legislature to come up with some legislation that will take take this view to the next level, and they're going to try and write some legislation that dismantles an agreement that did the board that controlled the disney

district, um, entered into a disney before desantis controlled that that district or that board so they're going to try and dismantle things dismantle this development agreement it it's going to be a tricky situation. to write something that doesn't just trigger years of lawsuits. yeah and that seems to be kind of where this is all heading kind of a big legal battle. ceo of disney, bob iger a few weeks ago called what desantis is doing anti business and anti florida. he said this violates their constitutional first amendment. right right of speech to speak out and take a position on something. i'm interested if you think you get the sense or your reporting shows that desantis is actually willing to harm. one the bottom line of one of the biggest employers in the state of florida or if this is more about politics and optics. um you know, i think it's hard to

know that because i think the governor is has done things. he's kind of done a lot of brinkmanship and hasn't taking things as far as he could. on the other hand, it's pretty clear that he hasn't he's not backing down on this fight. and so, um, this notion of putting a prison next to you know disney property. it's difficult because first of all, disney's owns this property. and if the governor, you know, i think he kind of tried to come up with an example that looked pretty harmful prison near a, you know, amusement park and i resort but in the end um, i think his his weapon here is on messaging and , um, you know if he does ultimately do something that makes it difficult for disney to operate its you know that will

have a impact company may not stay. it'll have an impact on just on disney, but i think of all these other huge fortune 500 fortune 100 companies that have flocked there. i was talking to jamie dimon, the ceo of jpmorgan . they have a ton of employees in florida now, and he says, we're very pro florida about this the other week, and he said, look, we're going to continue to stand up. for things we believe in like lgbtq rights . for example. do you think that this will dissuade other big businesses from moving more people to florida even though the business and tax incentive is so appealing for them or not really. you know, it's really hard to tell. i think that right now florida is definitely very it's a very attractive place for businesses. and i think you know this is, um this is a fight that i think we're going to be watching for a while, the governor has decided to take on corporations and um, he is. he has decided that corporations

don't have a first amendment right to take positions on policy and i think that that is going to be something to keep watching and following um, you know, he's made it very clear that companies like disney should just stick to their lane , he says. um but what what exactly does that mean, in an environment where they're giving corporate contributions and political contributions also the antithetical to what the supreme court has ruled right in terms of corporations having a voice. um citizens united. this is going to be fascinating to watch. we're glad to have your perspective. maryland class. thanks. cnn this morning continues now. he went and rang the doorbell and he was supposed to stay outside and his brothers were supposed to run outside in the car, and they and