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year old man is now charged with two felonies after police say he shot a black 16 year old boy who simply rang the wrong doorbell. we're live in kansas city as we wait for the suspect to turn himself in right now jury selection and one historic showdown in court after so much speculation outside of the courtroom, the defamation trial against fox news begins we have the latest from inside happen at any moment, the supreme court could determine the fate of a commonly used abortion drug as soon as today. these stories and more coming to cnn news, central . this morning
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esther told police he was scared to death when he saw the team at his doorstep, saying he fired his gun because he thought the team was trying to break in. this is a photo of ralph at the hospital after the shooting. he is miraculously back at home recovering. his mother spoke this morning about what happened. listen. he went around the doorbell, and he was supposed to stay outside and his brothers were supposed to run outside, get in the car, and they and they come home and that was what was supposed to happen and why he was standing there. his brothers then run outside, but he got a couple of bullets in his body instead of a couple of twins coming up out and giving him a hug. shot in the head but survived. cnn's lucy cavanaugh is following all of this for us, lucy. what are the charges that are being levied against the suspect this morning? well, sarah, this whole
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incident took place effectively on the porch of that home behind me. the focus now is on this alleged gunman 84 year old andrew lester, who is now facing two charges. the first one is armed criminal action that could earn him 3 to 15 years behind bars, the more serious charge first degree felony assault that could see him spend the rest of his life behind prison. this whole incident unfolded again at that home on april 13th. that's when ralph we are all made a mistake. he thought he was picking up his younger brothers on 115th terrorists. that's one block away. instead he rang that doorbell in 115th street that mistake nearly costing him his life. the mayor of kansas city on our air earlier talking about the amount of time that it took to bring these charges forward. take a listen. i think we do need to look at the fact though not just this case, but many others where we have these
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incidents involved with black teens and too many situations, it seems like we need a public groundswell to get full attention. i will admit, and i'll look to my own office and our own review. i didn't know about the details of this case until several days later. that is problematic. and this is the sort of thing that people of kansas city and our entire country should expect better. and we know that ralph y'all was shot twice in the left forehead and the right arm. he ran across the street. my producer bill actually interviewed one of the neighbors who saw him. she was bleeding. he was alert. you described him as incredibly brave and actually got incredibly emotional when talking about this, she said, quote. this is somebody's child . i had to clean blood off of my door off of my railing. that was someone's child's blood. mom this is not okay. ralph is recovering at home with family right now, sarah, it really is miraculous. he's shot in the head close. range and survives. we have also heard from ralph's aunt this morning, she talked to cnn. what did what did she say?
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well you know, one of the most important things that she started. the most emotional things is that a part of ralph died on that day on april 13th and what she was talking about. sarah is something that you and i unfortunately know all too well, which is what the survivors of violence have to go through after the physical injuries heal. yes he's alive. yes, the physical injuries will heal. but he has this emotional trauma that he has to effectively process and come to terms with that he was shot for the and described it doing nothing wrong at all. sarah yeah . you think about young black boys in this country? the dangers they face. it is truly startling. what happened in this case? thank you so much. lucy cavanaugh, john. so in upstate new york this morning, a man has been charged with second degree murder. accused of shooting this young woman who accidentally turned into his driveway 20 year old katelyn polantz and three friends drove into the wrong driveway while looking for a friend's house saturday night, police say the homeowner, six
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year old kevin monahan, allegedly fired two shots at the car from his porch. one struck gillis, who later died as her friends tried to help. seen as bridging grass joins us with the latest here, you know, brynn, not unlike kansas city and that guns in property involved race not a factor here, but this is so tragic. i mean, it's so senseless and this family grieving having a go fund me page of for her, really a loss of words here. it makes no sense. the sheriff couldn't even make sense of it as he tried to give this news conference i've been making calls all morning, john trying to figure out the status of kevin monahan, that 65 year old suspect he is charged with second degree murder. it's not clear yet if he has appeared before a judge, but just to go back over what you sort of describe what happened here over the weekend. this happened in hebrew, new york, which is very rural area parts of new york state and essentially what the sheriff's department says in washington county that this young victim kaylin was in a car with three of her friends. they
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didn't have gps or any cell phone reception because it wasn't a rural area and they were just trying to find a friend's home. they drove down the driveway of kevin monahan. and realized they were at the wrong house started to leave that driveway when authorities say monahan came out onto the porch to the side of the house and fired two shots at that car, and in fact, the friends rushed out of that air drove quickly out of that area tried to get an area of cellphone reception. it took about five miles before they can finally get a 911 call out. paramedics arrived at the scene where they were in a totally different town and tried to resuscitate gillis. but she died there at the scene. and i want you to hear from the sheriff because each and he didn't speak much about, gillis said. she was such a good person from a good family knows them personally, but i want you to hear more about what he said about this senseless tragedy. they're young adults. they were in the area looking for her friend's house. it's a very rural area with dirt roads. it's easy to get lost. they drove up
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this driveway. for a very short time. realize their mistake. and we're leaving. when mr monaghan came out and fired two shots. now sheriff says that authorities went to monaghan's house to make an arrest. he was not cooperative did not come outside. actually there was about an hour standoff, no words were exchanged nothing incriminating said, according to the sheriff, but we're going to continue to get updates on this drum. knocking on the wrong door, pulling down the wrong driveway. getting people shot cringing grass. thank you so much. i do want to know we are speaking to the sheriff from that county. next hour, katelyn polantz $1.6 billion defamation case against fox news. this long anticipated trial is this hour now getting underway inside of delaware courtroom opening statements could begin really any moment once they wrap up jury selection , dominion suing as you recall fox news over false claims that
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its voting machines rigged the 2020 election, fox news has denied wrongdoing as long road to getting here. joining me now is cnn anchor and former federal prosecutor laura coates. we're waiting to hear more jury selection, wrapping up opening statements to be to becoming, there's been some interesting moves in terms of legal strategy as we're heading into trial first, in terms of dominion. i wanted to get your take this number of 1.6 billion that they're asking in damages. they are. they've now made a shift now arguing that this is all has to do with damage to the company's reputation, whereas before it was kind of divided into damages, reputational damage and also a loss in contracts. what do you make of this? kind of last minute shift . in terms of that strategy, they have to prove in some respect that there was a lessening of reputation in the actual community. that's part of what defamation requires initiative, the actual malice standard that says look, you either knew what you were doing was wrong. are you acting and recklessness cigar, but they have to ultimately come up with
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a number in the civil suit and say here is how we were harmed and hang their hook on it. it could be also contract. also the idea that they can no longer get now as a result of that, so not actually mutually exclusive premises. they have to show that they were actually damaged and that can be the way to do it. i'm curious what you think of what the fox news like what their strategy in court could be, because the judge leading up to today, lee already before they got here. has limited the first amendment defense is that the company can use a company spokesman has said. this about it all, saying dominions lawsuit is a political crusade in search of a financial windfall, but the real cost would be cherished first amendment rights. the judges says that many key first amendment deep defenses here they don't apply to the facts coming into this case. so what can fax present that in court? this case is so monumental for that very reason. they're not able to go in court and say, look, the first amendment protects all of our speech. because there are limitations. you cannot defame and still have
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the first and protections there . if you were a news organization in particular, you can't just so you cannot define people and say, well, hold on. here's the first amendment. the court is saying, you can't make those arguments. all that's left to prove is that there was actual malice that you actually knew what you were saying was false or that you regard disregarded any truth. so what they're going to present now? without having the benefit of saying look, the first emperor texas here in the freedom of the press, is we believed it. maybe we believe it was happening. you know you have. dobbs is actual deposition, saying well, he believes election was stolen. so if they don't believe themselves , that it actually was a lie if they repeat it, same thing, but there has to be some reasonableness here with that. katelyn polantz we see in the court of public opinion actually ring true, it really can fatally undermined the perception that they need to actually believe that they were saying the right thing, and the court has said just because you may have someone later on fact checking to present an alternate theory that disputes what you were thinking does not absolve you of
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having actually committed defamation, so this is going to be a monumental case. it's fox wants to be in the actual courtroom four because all of their anchors that are part of the evidence so far might be fair game. are you surprised that it made it to a courtroom? i am. the number is pretty high , but overall, their entire budget over a year with their bringing in is in the billion, so this would be obviously a hit would be the biggest one of any media corporation have this affirmation hit, but there were apparently some sort of last minute discussions on this point, but even gretchen carlson tweeted out embassy now about not wanting this to settle because she wanted to have the truth of the matter out. that might be part of the motivation as to why they say no, we're going to go full steam ahead so interesting, and it's all getting away underway in a delaware court room as we speak. good to see laura. thank you so much, sir. alright as soon as today the supreme court's could decide the fate of the abortion pill mifepristone and whether millions of women can have access to it. the anti abortion group that initially brought the
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case has less than two hours to submit filings for the high court the hold on a lower court's ruling restrictions restricting access to the drug is set to expire at 11 59. p m. tomorrow night. cnn's jessica schneider is outside the supreme court. jessica is there any indication about um when and what the supreme court is going to do in this particular case? well, sarah, it's likely the supreme court will actually not act on this until tomorrow. that's because after the briefs are due from the anti abortion doctors were expecting the justice department of potentially the drug manufacturer, danko to actually reply. plus you know, the supreme court has said that 11 59 pm deadline tomorrow night, so there are several more hours before their stay expires. okay so what could the supreme court do here? they have a few options . first of all, they could extend that pause on any changes or any additional restrictions to the abortion pill. they could extend that as the appeals
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process moves forward, because, remember the challenges to the underlying case are moving forward in the fifth circuit. the fifth circuit already set arguments for may 17th or the supreme court could decide not to act at all. and then what would happen then? well all of the restrictions that the fifth circuit have have said that they would put in place. those would go into effect that would include women past seven weeks of pregnancy would not be able to take the pill. currently they can take it up to 10 weeks, and they also wouldn't be able to get the pill via mail or via telehealth. they'd have to do everything in person. the fda has already talked about the fact that these are huge burdens that would be put on the fda. if these, um changes did go into effect and also ah, you know, senator dick durbin was on the floor of the senate yesterday, talking about the chaos that this is really resulted in for women and doctors. just a lot of confusion, so it looks like the supreme court will be getting
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those briefs from the anti abortion doctors by noon today, and then the clock is ticking to 11 59 pm tomorrow night when it's before then the supreme court is expected to rule. sarah i think more than half of abortions in this country are done with the use of myth. kristen and the other drug that has to be combined with it, so it's a it's a really important case, and we'll all be watching. thank you so much. jessica schneider there from a very windy washington, d. c. john all right, sara. an incredible story. four oklahoma county officials facing calls to resign after audio seems to capture them talking about lynching black people and threatening journalists. we're gonna play some of that sound for you. and everything, not what it seems when it comes to house republicans that behind the scenes strife that plagues the majority. vladimir putin unexpectedly on the ground in the hair salon region as he zeroes in on the situation in southern ukraine. you ever try
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consumer cellular. good morning, everyone we do begin with breaking news. joining us now are two lawmakers from different sides of the aisle in ukraine, sanjay gupta. ward in denmark. on our radar this morning, a moscow court just deny the detention appeal of wall street journal reporter evan gersh covic he's been held in russia for nearly three weeks on espionage charges that the biden administration says are baseless . his attorneys say they offered bail of over $600,000 in hopes that the reporter could be moved to house arrest. as this process continues with the court. denied bail later today, president biden will be signing an executive order aimed at expanding access to long long term care and childcare. the white house says that it will make care options more affordable and boost job quality for early educators and aid workers. but a white house
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official has admitted to cnn any additional funding for long term child long term and childcare programs will face a steep uphill battle in congress and more than three million people across the southwest and into the plains and the keys are under a critical fire risk threat. right now, the national weather service is warning that people need to avoid burning anything outdoors at this moment, as they describe it. any ignitions will have the potential to burn out of control quickly. sarah alright this morning, a secret audio recording is igniting outrage and calls for resignations in oklahoma. the conversation that's now been exposed, allegedly captures several county level officials making racist remarks. about lynching black folks and talking about killing journalists. cnn's rosa flores is joining us now. rosa oklahoma's governor says he is appalled and disheartened by this and the video and the audio is just terrifying. can you walk
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us through what happened here? yes absolutely. this audio is very disturbing. and the governor there is asking for an investigation. he issued a statement saying, in part quote , there is simply no place for such hateful rhetoric in the state of oklahoma, especially by those that serve to represent the community. through the respect of office. i will not stand idly by while this takes place now the governor is recommending for these four individuals were allegedly involved in these conversations to step down. these individuals include kevin clarkie. the curtain county sheriff. mark jennings, a commissioner there, alicia manning. a sheriff's investigator, larry hendricks, a jail administrator. now before you hear this audio, i have to warn you that it is graphic. it is disturbing to hear and that cnn has not been able to independently authenticate this audio and that cnn has also not been able to determine who says what in this audio. what we can
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tell you is that this conversation was happening. and what they're discussing is what they would do when the encounter a reporter. take a listen. it would like a date. what does that with alan marshall? take a black that whooped, harass and throw him in the cell. i'd run chair. it's not like taking a mud creek and hang them up with the rope. yeah. but you can't do anything about it. i got more action. we got nowhere to dig deep holes are ever needed. escalator mondays are free, doug. we actually going to turn to three hitmen. very quiet. guys would cut no yeah. now all of this is happening in the curtain county, oklahoma, which is about 200 miles south east of oklahoma city. now what's going on there is happening at the newspaper there. the newspaper is, um, a curtain gazette news,
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according to our affiliate, k. j r. h it is the william the william willingham. excuse me. willingham family who publishes that paper in its the reporter who is the son of that family. now i want to make clear that cnn has reached out to the four officials who are. who are these allegations who are part of the conference allegedly part of these conversations, and we have not heard back what we have heard from. the willingham family attorney and that attorney has said in part quote for nearly a year, they have suffered intimidation, ridicule and harassment based solely on their efforts to report the news from a curtain county and sarah as we discussed before the oklahoma governor is asking for an investigation. in this case, the g there is already investigating. sarah after listening to that audio. it's shocking. it's disturbing and there is a fact check we should put out there. which is you hear one of the officials saying
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black folks have more rights than we do. speaking of white people, the absolute opposite has been true for decades and decades and decades in this country. rosa flores, thank you so much for bringing us that disturbing story. john news from behind closed doors in washington. now it's been just over 100 days since republicans took control of the house and the party's lawmakers. or struggling to maintain a united front amid several disputes on a bunch of issues, including raising the debt ceiling, the budget how to handle the crisis at the border. cnn's manu raju live on capitol hill for us this morning, manu, i understand you come bearing news from this closed door meeting among republicans. yes indeed talking to a number of republicans who just attended this meeting where speaker mccarthy is beginning the process to try to get his conference in line behind the proposal to raise the national debt limit for one year, coupled with a range of spending cuts, ranging from dealing with rolling back domestic spending levels for the over 2022 levels , which would amount to a
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significant cut to a range of domestic programs, as well as imposing new covid 19 is sorry medicaid work requirements for people who are beneficiaries, too. ooh that entitlement program as well as rescinding money that was enacted for covid relief among the variety of issues that they're trying to convince their conservative members to support along with raising the debt limit to avoid the nation's first ever default as early as june. this coming, of course, as the white house has resisted any negotiations whatsoever. instead calling on the house republicans simply raise the national debt limit without any conditions attached , something republicans reject now. kevin mccarthy just details some of these ideas. is behind closed doors and house republicans are trying to pass. their bill is early as next week on gop votes alone, meaning to kevin mccarthy can't lose more than four republican votes, so the wrangling has begun. john and i just spoke with patrick mchenry, who is one of the key members of kevin mccarthy's team , and he indicated confidence that they could get the votes
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next week. what happens if you don't get to 18 votes next week, but there are a lot of things that don't happen if nothing happens, right, but it's not the right question. the question is. what does the white house then? do once we pass? this package clearly stated there is no clean debt ceiling will pass the house , so we'll have the first opening offer here, and we'll see if the president's willing to come to the table and negotiate, like previous presidents have open to it, but still i told them i'm still a no vote. so that last comment significant. that's tim burchett. he's a congressman from tennessee republican said. i am still a no vote. that is a problem, of course for mccarthy if he cannot convince common law makers like burchett and others who are skeptical of voting for a debt ceiling increase, no matter what, so of very, very delicate dance here for mccarthy, trying to get his members on board trying to convince the country that they will not barrel into a potential first ever default and here in
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united states. all while trying to get the white house to agree to negotiate. john raju on capitol hill asking the right questions. never mind what representative mchenry had to say about that. thank you so much. keep us posted on all of this, okay? newly released data from u. s. border officials show a jump in border crossings last month. what this signals as officials prepare for the expiration of title 42. we're going to speak to one of the people involved in the recent settlement with the city of minneapolis, the settlement over unreasonable use of force used by former officer derek chauvin. years before he was convicted of murdering george floyd. we'll be right back. h hey hey, hey, get away 1 10. years ago, i invented the ring video doorbelll for momentnts like that and ring security cameras for moments like this video. protect your home away. i do learn more at
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rig the 2020 election, kate. so you're looking live at pictures on capitol hill. that is what senator rand, paul, but you're also going to see homeland sick, homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas. he's testifying on capitol hill right now about a new surge of migrants at the southern border. take a listen to this. the annual appropriations process does not provide the flexibility to address challenges that often change sector to sector month to month. we propose that congress create a fund that can be spent for specific purposes when certain migrant encounter thresholds are met. this would equip our personnel with the tools they need to meet migration surges if and as they occur. so that is a lot of government speak, but the issue that he is facing is urgent and growing. his comments coming as new data shows that immigration officials saw 25% spike in the number of crossings at the us mexico border last month seen as
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priscilla alvarez is watching all of this. tracking the new numbers. priscilla, what are the numbers showing? well, these are numbers key that the white house and homeland security secretary may. orcas are following very, very closely and the reason is because next month they're going to see title 42, a covid arab border restrictions expire, and what that has allowed authorities to do to this point is turned certain migrants away they will no longer be able to do that, and they expect as a result, they are going to see more people across the us mexico border. so what they saw already last march is that numbers jumped 25% compared two february now this is part of an upward turn that we've been seeing since december. in january and february, numbers had slowly started to creep up, and now we're there again now, notably what administration officials say is that they have seen a drop in certain populations that is cubans, nicaraguans, haitians and venezuelans. it's important that these populations have dropped, they say, because of
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some of the hardest ones they have to deal with the reason being that there's a lot of them coming and they're very hard to turn back because we do not have relationships with those countries for removal may orcas in his testimony it's ago mentioned a parole program that has contributed to that that allows these migrants to apply to come to the united states instead of crossing the border. unlawfully now, this is one of many tools that the administration is using. they are also working with countries to this to the south, especially in the darien gap. that's a treacherous jungle that spans panama and colombia and migrants have been crossing there in the hundreds of thousands, and that is a big concern because typically they are heading to the us mexico border. and so the administration last week signed a trilateral agreement with panama and with colombia to increase patrols. and to arrest and prosecute smugglers. in fact, one administration official told me quote this is a game changer. but of course, kate. month remains to be seen.
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and frankly, a lot of what they're putting in place may also put president biden at odds with his allies and with immigrant advocates, but they do need a game changer when you're looking at the numbers that they're starting to see tick back up again as you've tracked them so closely. good to see you, brazil thank you so much. sara all right, this just in to cnn, southwest airlines says. they're experiencing major delays due to a system outage. yep. again according to flight, where the airline is currently reporting nearly 800 delays right now. cnn aviation correspondent pete montini is here with more pete. what are you learning at this hour? i'm sure passengers are majorly frustrated. a lot of frustration at airports across the country. sarah, we just got this from the faa that southwest has requested a nationwide ground stop for all of its flights coast to coast, putting that out right now in a ground stop notice due to equipment issues, according to
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the faa. we just found out about this from passengers initially and then also heard from the airline itself in a tweet, saying they were trying to restore their operation nationwide right now southwest airlines to fly to our let me check here we've got about 800 cancelations so far nationwide that is 20. entire schedule, and what we see with things like this is that there is typically a domino effect. once the house of cards starts tumbling down, then it really lasts for days in some cases, so we will see we are very early in the day here the travel day tuesday, which is typically good news because it's relatively low traffic, although less we forget, we're kind of in the middle of spring break right now, so this is coming at a very bad time for a lot of travelers and joining a very bad impact on an airline that's taken it on the chin. then when it comes to these equipment issues, remember southwest canceled 17,000 flights. over the christmas holidays and in the new year's because of equipment issues, and
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planes and crews were simply out of position all over the place. so we are now seeing this happening once again. we'll see how big the impact here is. sarah it is still very early right now. the news that you just gave us a nationwide ground stop may be underway for southwest airlines causing major problems. pete 19, thank you so much live there for us. from washington, john? well, much more on that. i think. in the next hour, russian president vladimir putin made an unannounced trip to russian occupied areas of ukraine. why he made that visit now and what we're now learning about the state of russia's military. mlb on tbs. tuesday is back for a new season. we are ready to play baseball. there's nothing weaeak about this team every tuesday night. tbs is on the call is dad, i'm almost out. i got you.
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brought to you by meso book .com. we offer a free book on mesothelioma call for the free book and receive so much more call 1 808 31 37 100. breaking overnight, russian president vladimir putin made a surprise visit to russian occupied parts of ukraine in video released by the kremlin. putin can be seen meeting with russian commanders in the hair salon region. the area could be the focus of an expected ukrainian offensive in coming months. putin's visit came as new russian missile attacks killed at least three ukrainian civilians and injured several others. ukrainian officials say that more than 100 settlements were hit with everything from artillery and mortars to cruise missiles and drones. cnn's nick paton walsh live separated for us this morning, nick the significance of this visit this public visit in these pictures released by russia of vladimir putin to the hair salon region. yeah i mean,
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certainly that putin at the start of this conflict, kind of ridiculed by his critics for often meeting officials at the end of a very long table and never visiting the front line. well that's certainly altered and we recently just after he was indicted by the international criminal court saw him walking around the streets of mariupol ukrainian city devastated by his country's invasion, and now it seems on monday he visited part of the her son region that's occupied by russia very much. i think it's fair to say a place which is in the line of sites of ukraine's forthcoming counter offensive, maybe beginning to start now, or certainly expected imminently. and i think this is a bit by the kremlin to show he is very much on the front lines very much still invested in this fight, and perhaps trying to boost morale in that area ahead of a likely better equipped ukrainian onslaught. it's important too to note one of the senior generals he seemed to have spent time talking to with there is somebody who was thought to have full not of favor but high ranking in the
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sort of elite paratroop ng staff , and this may be a bit, perhaps by the kremlin to shore up support amongst the traditional army here, who they want to try and use more on the front line. after months of disarray over the winter, john dick. so western officials are saying that russia is going backwards in terms of its military and its military equipment. what exactly does that mean? yeah i mean, certainly what we've been seeing over the past months, and we saw it back at the end of last summer old equipment being brought out of mothballing, frankly, being refurbished and taken to the frontline sometimes need tanks that were first put into service before vladimir putin was even born and he's 70 . so the t 54 models of which we saw as ukrainian forces advanced in her son. they've been wheeled out. why well, because it's a very big start of this war. russia massively underestimated the need for supplies. change for refueling got a lot of its best equipment stuck up front
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wasn't able to refuel it. it got jammed up and significantly damaged by significant supplies to of western anti tank missile from the javelins being brought to the front lines there the end laws as well. they took a lot of armor out, and that's continued over time. and so russia hit by sanctions hit by, frankly, its own corrupted supply chains where a lot of stuff is taken rather than invested in weaponry is having to reach deep into its soviet era stocks. to try and keep things going on the front line. that's a major problem for them. in the months ahead, john payton walsh for us live in separate the next day safe. thank you. kate. settlement with the city of minneapolis. the settlement over the unreasonable use of force used by officer derek's former officer derek chauvin, years before he was convicted of murdering george floyd. that's next. i bought the team, put it on my chasee freedm
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benefits. payroll. compliance. trinet. people matter. to 7600 or visit coventry direct .com. i'm phil mattingly at the white house, and this is cnn. all right. the city of minneapolis has reached settlements totaling more than $8.8 million in two civil lawsuits that accused former police officer derek chauvin of using excessive force in two incidents. those incidents happened nearly three years before he murdered george floyd during an arrest using the same tactic. one of the plaintiffs, john pope, says he was restrained on the ground with chauvin's knee to his neck. in 2017 john pope in his attorney, bob bennett. join me now to talk about this first. i want to start with you, mr probyn. thank you both so much for coming on our show. mr brooke, can you tell me what happened to you? what the experience for you with, like when then officer
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chauvin had his knee on your your neck. what happened to you physically? from from the point where his knee was on my neck are what started from the beginning. from the beginning. the army from the beginning. beginning, okay? well from the beginning. you know, i just wanted to yeah, it wasn't snow. don't believe it was solving at first, but i think it was his partner first, and i was just trying to explain the situation. and it seems from his perspective. he wasn't trying to hear it. he was just trying to go about it his way and from that 0.1 somebody rushed towards the and started to hit me talk me and then canada commotions going on and then remember me passing out? and then coming to him. when his knee on my neck
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and meet pleading to him to move his his me down to my lower back because i couldn't breathe at that. wow that must have been terrifying. did you? did you fear for your life at that moment, you you were already unconscious. at one point you had been hit, and now you're lying there with a knee in your neck. yeah, i did. and. it was several points to the counter that i didn't know what to write with him or be with him no more explore different officer and those requests wasn't there wasn't about about it was denied. okay let me now talk to you about the other victim. in this case, i know that zoya code reached a settlement along with you. two years ago, i was able to speak to her on the streets of minneapolis during the protests that were going on there and she had told police about showing behavior and nothing was done. let's listen to what she said to the crowd.
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my name's oia close. and i'm all i've got. yahoo will not take my life like that. told you they will not take my life. you hear her screaming they will not take my life, but she too thought that her life was under threat. did you as well make a complaint to police before all of this happened to let them know what how you have been treated. i. the only time i get up was the supervisor when he was um, right there in front of me talking to me, um, hospital hospital request their badge numbers, they said they'll give it to me, but they never did. all right. we know what unfolded with former officer derek chauvin. in the case of george floyd. we watched that happen in real time live and then we watched it during the trial, and i was there for all of it. mr bennett. you said the problem far exceeds
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what mr chauvin was doing. can you tell us what this settlement means for the city of minneapolis, but more importantly for the citizens? of minneapolis. well first of all, thanks for having us, uh the what i meant by that was that these 2017 incidents, which involved other officers and john's case. up to, you know, a dozen other officers at given points in time. sure that the there's the problems with the minneapolis police are cultural and systemic and that the. show and felt very comfortable doing what he was doing, which is clearly criminal and unconstitutional. in the presence of these officers who didn't do anything. they didn't . they didn't intervene. it didn't report him. they didn't do anything. and that was true
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