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quickly reunited him with his parents. turned to talk to question him. thank you so much for joining us tonight. i'll be back here tomorrow night. cnn tonight with alison camerata starts now. hey alison. adorable story, pam. yes, it is. we'll cover it a little bit, too. thanks so much. thank you. good evening, everyone. i'm alison camerata. welcome to cnn tonight . what does it mean when it's black 16 year old cannot ring the wrong door bell. without getting shot or a white 20 year old cannot make a wrong turn into someone's driveway without getting shot. or our second amendment rights, outweighing many of our other rights are panel has an interesting take on that. plus fox has to cough up $787 million for their outrageous lies about dominion voting systems. but you know who will never know about this fox viewers because the settlement does not include an on air apology or correction. the network put out a statement

saying they quote acknowledge the court's findings. about certain claims about dominion to be false. we'll see if our guests think that spells true accountability. and the ceo of the high end office furniture company delivered a pep talk to employees. that took quite a turn when employees asked about their lack of bonuses. i had an old boss who said to me one time you can visit pity city, but you can't live there so people leave the city. let's get it done. we'll talk more about that. i'm here with my panel. he always unfiltered s e cupp. l a times up. ed columnist lz granderson, former senate candidate joe pinyon and former congressman monetary jones. but we begin with the wrong doorbell. shooting of 16 year old ralph ural. i want to bring in lee merritt, an attorney for ralph charles family, mr merritt. thank you so much for being here . we understand that the family met with prosecutors today. what did they learn? prosecutors let

us know about the charges that they went forward with two charges one having to do with the weapon that was used in the homicide, the other being a felony aggravated assault. together they have the potential of leading if convicted, leading to a life imprisonment sentence. the family really wants to know why not a attempted murder charge, and so we had a chance to talk to the prosecutor about that. and what's the answer? well it has everything to do with the missouri statute for attempted murder. aggravated assault. first degree aggravated assault carries forth a stiffer penalty. and with the last of a legal burden than the attempted murder charge in the state of missouri. in other words, he is charged with assault in the first degree. and you're saying that prosecutors believe that that would actually carry a stiffer penalty, then attempted murder. that's correct. okay i think all of us were very relieved and surprised to hear that ralph ural was released

from the hospital after being shot in the head. i know that you all have talked about the how traumatic of course, all of this is for him and the long road ahead. emotionally for him. but physically, how is he doing ? what is his recovery going to look like from a head injury like this? to really explain how he's doing physically, people have to understand the true nature of his injuries. it seems that maybe the shots mr something like that. the truth is, he was shot at point blank range from less than five ft. away head on and was struck in this temple. the bullet entered his skull. and fragmented near the frontal, upper left lobe of his brain. thursday night, doctors were scraping off bullet fragments off his brain. saturday he was released from the hospital. the fact that i spoke with him today and sat down and had a conversation with him, vice president kamala harris had a conversation with him today, where he was fluid where he was amicable, or he was funny, consistent with his

character is truly a miracle, and he has a prognosis of a full recovery, minus scarring and the long term, maybe cte and post traumatic brain injury symptoms he is his prognosis is very, very positive is a miracle it is . it's astonishing how quickly he was able to be released from the hospital. so as you know, the suspect said that he shot ralph because he was quote scared to death because ralph was so big. we were showing pictures there of ralf. we see him with his clarinet. he looks in the still photos. he looks like, you know, a young teenager . can you just help set the record straight? how tall is ralph? yeah. what andrew lester was referring to in terms of the size and how, uh, fearful he was of ralph is a euphemism about blackness. ralph is 58. ralph is £140. he is the least imposing

kid that i've come across. he's a 16 year old musician. he is not known for his physical prowess. the truth is when mr lester looked out and saw a black child he decided like this common in america that his his skin alone was a weapon. that blackness was the threat and that's that's the reason we're having racial conversation. racial violence conversations that's the reason that we're treating this case as a case of racial violence. um do you have a satisfactory answer of why it took so long to arrest? uh, the suspect here after he was talked to by police for 2 to 3 hours on the night of the shooting. i don't have a satisfactory answer this prosecutor and law enforcement has given this family being same answer that they had given the general public, which is misinformation . first they said that they didn't have a statement from ralph in time. well, we know now that they received a statement from ralph a full recorded statement with two officers

present the day after his he was he was shot till friday. if they would have followed kansas missouri law and held the suspect for at least 24 hours. together that statement, he would have never been released. they released them for reasons that they haven't described and we only have were sort of left to our imagination. that's the, uh to guess why they treated him less severely than they would someone else would had shot an unarmed 16 year old kid on their porch. mr lee merritt. thank you for your time tonight. please bring us all developments in this case. thank you so much. okay we have a lot to discuss with my panel to start with you because you've been so i thank openhearted about trying to see this through the lens of an 84 year old white midwestern man at 10 o'clock at night, being roused from sleep and coming to his door and the implicit bias that he brings to that door and i we take his word for it that he was scared to death. um so we

now know that, um ralph was 5 £840. and so how do we explain that? he saw something different in his through his lens first, and i just want to give thanks to god for that young man's quick, quick healing. i mean, i'm could you actually go to somewhere else right now? little emotional because the idea i just hung out with my son before i came here? and how old's your son 26 now, but when i see that young man i can't help but think of my own kid, you know, drama cared. band kid. he was on track. my son was in track, so all these thoughts are going through my head and the idea that you know he was sent to pick up his kids. his sister, his brother and this country is under siege. you know? we're under siege. there's so many freaking guns. and there's so many different avenues in which human error and anger can grab a

gun and ruin someone's life and the fact that we continue to have these elected officials pretend and so our a law that was written before bullets were created should still hold value today. it's just baffling to me , and i don't know anyone could listen to this story about this kid and not you know, i want to be grateful to god he's alive. but just the fiscal recovery. yes but how do you recover from that mentally also know his family has been talking about that that that he will have a scar on his forehead that were remind him every time he looks in the mirror of what happened in his life, where no questions asked. there was no conversation exchange between them because this homeowner saw something that he that terrified him. he's so skin, right? right he's a i mean, i don't want to speak for anyone else or i'll just speak for me. you know? when someone sees you. and the energy shifts. i can feel it. and the only good

thing i can think of. that's come out of all of this ugliness since george for his murder is that more american can stop thinking black people are crazy when we point these things out, right, like there's now documented visual evidence so that we don't have to go on and on and on writing book singing songs, creating movies doing all these things creatively to try to get his message across there. you finally see it in real time. we're not f in crazy, joe. look, um. i share the sentiments that we should be grateful that this young man is still alive. um i find myself being terrified every time i see brother merrick or or or brother benjamin crump on television, because i know something awful has happened. uh i think again. obviously people want to talk about the guns. i don't want to talk about the guns and has very little to deal with the letter next to my name on the voter registration cards because i was born a black man in this country. my father was

born in black men in this country and his father before him was born a black man in this country and whether you're talking about when he was born or when i was born or that young man today we still have blackness, rendering you as a member of a suspect class. that is why he found himself with bullet fragments on his brain. it is why we had to mere eliza rice, who was shot in broad daylight, holding a toy gun in a public park in an open carry state shot within less than if you seconds because the color of his skin made him a member of a suspect classes. why, john john crawford was shot dead holding a bb gun in a walmart that sold real guns because royal because of the fact that the color of his skin made him a member of a suspect class, so yes, of course , as always, we end up in a left versus right conversation. but this conversation today, at least for one day should be about the fact that we have to have a stark conversation with america that even today for all the progress that we have made,

there are certain times when people see the color of your skin and nothing else. that young man was £100 dripping with. you know, you go back down to florida, where you end up with a boy with a pack of skittles in this package. you also was about £100 dripping wet . it wasn't the hoodie that made him a threat to george zimmerman . it was the color of his skin, and at some point we should just be able to have that conversation, frankly and openly without us diving down these political rabbit holes that divide us at a time. we should all be able to get behind something that's quite clear and historical and continues to bring so much pain to so many people. alison i don't think the guy who shot ralph funeral deserves the benefit of the doubt here, and maybe we'll find out more information than coming days about. you know what his views are on race it is, it is really difficult for me to imagine, for the reasons already stated that that ralph could could pose reasonable reasonably to anyone some kind of threat and i just can't help but be

reminded of the times that i have knocked on doors for political purposes, whether to collect signatures and have conversations with people and i will just tell you what omar jimenez was saying. pamela brown earlier tonight really resonated with me because there are there are areas. in this country and in this state where i will insist on someone white accompanying me even as a candidate for office so that i am not as threatening to the person answering the door in the event that that ends up happening, and absolutely, you know to, to the other point that omar made, you know, sort of stepping away from the door after you knock and really retreating all the way down so that you're not even on the porch is something that i routinely do, and it looks weird. but this is you know, i guess these are the this is the secret life of black men for people who don't have to really see what we do, but it's not a secret, though. yeah it really isn't. we all know because if you don't step away and give that space, there's a discomfort that registers as well, right. so it's not a secret it may not be talked about. but people are

cognizant of the fact that when you're in an elevator and someone comes in, and you're by yourself, you know why you're coaching. you know why you're shifting. you know you may not want to talk about you may not want to admit it, but it's hard for me at this point continue to characterize it as an unknown. it's just even to that point. i mean, right here in new york city. how soon we forget i was talking to a producer. i mean, we had a black, harvard educated man who had the police called an infinite high crime and misdemeanor of trying to watch birds. there was nothing abnormal about people watching birds in central park was abnormal was the color of his skin being the individual who was watching the birds in central park, so i think you shouldn't have to have gone to harvard or look like an honor student in the way that ralph is which, frankly, has, i think from a narrative perspective been to his benefit, but like you could just look like a regular person, and it shouldn't be that the color of your skin. it poses a threat to anyone. you don't have to be a regular person respectability. politics has never benefited black people only put in place so that white

people have a bar to move. politics doesn't work. i think just i mean, i don't want to monopolize year we haven't even heard from our friend here, but i just i just think again to me, it transcends politics, right that case of that individual who had the cops. called in for watching birds that person prescribed to a different politics. and i did right. so this is not a left versus right. we know racism goes where it finds the most oxygen on any given day and time, but i think again we do ourselves a disservice. we view it purely through a political lens because i think at the end of the day through every iteration of this country when you had more people on the left to racist, whether you have more people on the right through our racist. the common thread is it was black people who found themselves with bullets and fragments and lynchings. all the things that we know come across when people decide that their comfort means more than your liberties, your freedoms. i see. well i mean, i think it's very safe to say this case is about race. i think it's also 100% about guns. and when

you add to it, the girl who drove into the wrong driveway and was also shot and we will be talking about that soon for me taking a 30,000 ft view, which is not a way of deflecting from any of these conversations, it is not um i just can't believe how little we value life. anymore that you could ask zero questions before shooting someone point blank because he came to the wrong door or someone who drove up to the wrong house. um is very troubling and i think speaks to our moral bankruptcy that we can sit by. not we, but lawmakers in americans can sit by and watch these mass shootings target our children in schools. and do nothing but play politics where it doesn't belong, or i mean, you know, on the other side that for political reasons, we can, you know, released convicted murderers out onto the streets because it makes us look better. this is terrible and our sense of. um honor to humanity is gone

is gone, that we are so quick to kill and then have the weapons readily available to do it. um we're in a bad place. we've really lost our way. agreed um gentlemen, thanks for that conversation. i really appreciate everything that you've said about that and i appreciate what you're feeling. and you expressed it. thank you. um we will talk about the woman who made the mistake of pulling into the wrong driveway and pay with her life. but first, we want to talk about fox reaching this last minute settlement with dominion, just as the trial was set to begin, fox was forced to pay more than $787 million but who really won and who really lost here? that's nice. there's a new breed of hornets sweeping the nation. are you picking this up? country by swarm the all new dodge hornet. the first time you

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that it was also when on many levels for fox? well in some cases, yes, because they're not going to have to publicly apologize on their air and they're not going to have to retract any of their statements or issue any corrections so from that regarded to win and the settlement allows their top executives to sort of avoid having to go back to court and testify even further. some of the pretrial hearings were really for fox executives in particular, rupert murdoch. so from that perspective, it's a win, but i'll tell you where it's a loss when you settle a case like this for $787 million , you set a precedent for all of the other defamation cases that you are facing that you're willing to pay out huge amounts of sums to avoid going to trial . now, this was a $1.6 billion case. alison they're now facing a $2.7 billion defamation case from smartmatic, another voting machine system, so this is going to potentially be the beginning of a long legal battle for fox. and while this element is a short term victory in the long term, it could make it harder if

they wished to litigate. some of these other defamation suits out. so congressman. i think that a lot of fox critics were hoping for a trial because they were hoping i'll raise my hand for that fox was going to have to actually be called to task they were going to have to explain in an open court under oath why they did this stuff, and now they skirt that could even like record them and retweet that in perpetuity whenever tucker carlson says something ridiculous and you want to trouble him. look, um $787 million is a gargantuan sum of money. and if i were the lawyer advising the minion, you'll be rich. i'd be rich and i certainly what would be advising them to settle for that amount? because i because i suspect the reason they did it and not for the $1.6 billion is because they had doubts about their own valuation. um and because obviously the initial

amount was 1.6 and they had tremendous leverage. rupert murdoch didn't want to take the stand. the facts news hosted, want to take the stand and had to admit to lying, so you know, so that's so there was that piece to it. it is really sad that they didn't take the stand . but also i don't know that they're taking the stand would have made a difference to the viewers of facts. i think i think when you're a regular viewer of these programs, you're so entrenched in your way of thinking. that it probably takes more. if it takes anything if anything can change your mind, then someone simply disavowing. you know that the times that they talked about the election. $787 million is a lot of money. however however, as much to fox well, no, they have four billion in cash on hand. i think the most important question here. is will this deterrent, fox? from being liars from lyon knowingly and you would hope that this would chase in fox and others

who knowingly spread conspiracy theories mislead people on a regular basis. but i don't know this is certainly the election line is certainly the biggest, most sensational life, but it's not the only lie. i mean the parents, the family of seth rich. a democratic staffer who was murdered, sued fox and settled because fox kept perpetuating these baseless conspiracy theories about their son, turning a tragedy into a ratings win. um you know, the family of brian sick, nick has begged fox to stop lying and politicizing january 6th lying about their son who's dead. um you know, fox has been credibly accused of falsifying photos videos running with things that are made up. then there's the covid conspiracies. i mean, it goes on and on. all of these are pernicious. wise like them wonder like is this is this. does anyone think this is going to stop? the anchors of fox news entertainment tonight? um from

doing what they do the reason that i would say no. because this has been going on this dominion suit has been going on for two plus years and they've been doing the exact same thing during this suit, so they clearly weren't prepared. by this lawsuit. listen as disappointing as we all are. i think the real. conversation that comes out of this is that democracy loses capitalism wins. you know, i just believe that the reason why there's a settlement is because the capital venture list people who own dominion saw the profit margins and said big bucks, no whammies. i'm taking the money like a chance on trial. we don't care that we can expose all of this. we don't care what this does for democracy. we don't care about the public good. we care about turning a profit exposed a lot. listen listen, we need a video discovery exposed to write for the purpose of what making money, and once they got to a point at which there was

satisfied they took the settlement. that's the way i feel. and the reason i feel that is because when you go and you look at who is the co founders of the venture capitalist firm that owns dominion, and you find out that there were two guys who and i have nothing against rich people? i love rich people want to be one of you. but there were two guys who, like worked for like these these things. these firms that were on like the buyout teams for these firms. in other words, there job to go find limping companies buy them out flesh and i'll get as much money as they possibly. can. we expected too much of a problem. exactly democracy american in making and they took it a long way risk in this last part of part of the public record, and there's been a ton of attention on this, and we will always have that. there will always be an asterisk. i mean, frankly, there already was for reasonable people, but they were now i think more objectively being asterisk next to the so called fox news network zone. lawyers already admitted that met some of their hosts. don't traffic in facts don't think i mean this

changes things like automatically, but i don't know that it changes things practically for fox. i agree with that. i think they're just like the one big thing, though, that this does change is that we now know where the line is for fox so moving forward when they face defamation suits when they are having election. shin lies or any kind of lies peddled on their network. we now know that they do not want their network executives to have to respond. they're facing a lot of pressure potential lawsuits. it was reported by shareholders who are frustrated with the board. we now know that when it comes to putting being put in that position, they're going to settle this out. it's interesting and you can start at 787 million exactly. you know you're going to come back with us with a lot more of your reporting on this because again, you've spent the day there so back at 11 with our panel of reporters, okay, everybody else. stay with me. america. james, of course, to be awash in guns. so much so that even bringing the long doorbell or mistakenly driving into the wrong driveway can get you shot. so does that mean we have to adjust how we live our everyday lives? maybe we already have. we'll discuss all that ones. good morning,

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katelyn polantz was shot and killed in upstate new york after she and three friends accidentally turned into a wrong driveway. looking for another friend's house, the car turned around and as they were leaving the driveway 65 year old kevin moynihan allegedly fired two shots from his front porch, one of them killing killing gillis. monahan faces a second degree murder charge in connection with her death. an official tells cnn that monaghan has frankly not shown any remorse in the case. this shooting comes just days after as we've discussed that white homeowner was charged with shooting 16 year old black teenager ralph ural after he mistakenly rang the wrong doorbell. my panel is back with me and joining us is republican strategist david urban. david great to have you here. you're a gun owner. yes. yep. do you think as a gun owner as a responsible gun? er, do you think that we've gotten to the point where people second amendment rights, which, of course we have. are outweighing other rights at this point when you can't wring somebody's

doorbell because you're picking up your younger siblings, and you can't make an accidental turn into a driveway. it's starting to feel like maybe we're putting more emphasis on second amendment rights than other things. now, listen, so, i mean, those are incredibly tragic cases that have happened right? like i was watching the program earlier, and, uh you know, there is no excuse for, you know, shooting through your doors that somebody who's knocking at the door ringing the doorbell. um regard through 84 64 24, right. so but on the other hand, you know that the and i heard, you know, heard you reference like you know, we what do we care about this 200 year old document for right? i didn't say that. i mean, you did. you did kinda say there was a law that we still adhere to put in place before bullets were right. but okay, well, but there had to be bought. agree to disagree, right? great it's great on that. but you know it's the constitution. you just can't flippantly say it doesn't matter where to get rid of guns. doesn't matter early gonna get rid of guns were setting. so what's your premise? the premise is there are more guns in this

country than people, right. we know that 300 million roughly or more, and the latest numbers i've seen and it's starting to since we report every week on a mass shooting, and that's not an exaggeration. and now it feels as though because guns have become so readily available for some people that as we know when you're a hammer every problem in the world of male and so it just wondering, is there any way to rejigger this? so i don't know what the answer is so that we can bring somebody's doorbell accidentally. question i think, too, that you have to ask is why do people feel they need guns in america? right? why do people feel they need a gun in their home? what what's the answer to that feeling, feeling feeling safe? i mean, do they feel unsafe? to certain extent? i mean, i'm asking, do you feel it's safe? that's the reason during the first place they feel unsafe. it's a reasonable but why do they feel unsafe? what is what's going on in society. written large that people feel unsafe in their own home. no, not always been. that's why the law is 200 plus years old. so it's always been that exactly so

people. what is the reason is, allison said, there wasn't always 300 million guns and firearms in america. so why do people feel the need today to go buy more farms to arm them? we have some answers. that's a good question. good question. and there's some good answers and people do feel unsafe. there are other communities have gun owners. i'm in in another community of gun owner um for sporting, um, hunting target shooting. i also feel unsafe sometimes and so i use guns or have guns for self defense, and that's a great question to ask, and that should not be off the table. however. these people were under no threat in this case medications, not there's no cases that there was no no threat. but the problem is worse . because someone who takes an air 15 into a school i didn't buy that gun for self defense, but they're going to kill people . and so another reason people have guns is because we have met bad mental health and we're not servicing people who have very

serious problems. another reason is we're not jailing people as much as we used to. that's a big problem. i think, too, so there's a lot in that the point is, we should be able to ask all of those questions when your first response and i'm not being accusatory. when my former side of this arguments first response is so what do you want to do? rip up the constitution? that's all i'm saying? that's not as far as anyone wants to go, either, and that's the way of not getting to the very good second question that you ask, and i think that's a good question. on the other hand, when someone says you're an n word n remember, you're gonna order you have blood on your hands. that's also not helpful and having a very important conversation. hold up on that. i just wanna respond to that because i do think there's many the things you can do right? so you know i was on this past weekend on state of union with jared moskowitz represented moskowitz, who was went to high school in parkland and was a state legislator in florida and help push through red flag law in the state of florida, with

republican legislator republican governor. it's in place now. it's very effective at taking guns, so let's just let's be factual about guns. right republican legislators opposed those laws. but let's just the facts about guns and those red flag laws do tons to help because suicide 55% of 55% percent of gun death or suicide . largest portion of gun deaths are from abuse. spousal abuse somebody spouse has a gun kills the other spouse. so those if you take those two categories red flag loss, wipe out 75% of gun deaths in those cases, rachel argue. we could do a lot, so i don't know. i know that that's that's having assumes no because the way red flags law laws work to court. has to be adjudicated by a judge that someone is mentally unstable or domestic violence or a threat to themselves or others. then you have to get that judge to say yes, the goose gun should be taken away. and for how long? and then that has to flag a red the red fund system. it has to flag the knicks, but they work but they work agree they can be

multi pronged. listen a number of fairly innocuous reasons why people own guns, but there was also like a right wing apparatus in this country that encourages people to purchase firearms because they are told that the government is going to take them away from these people. they are told that there are dangerous black and brown people on whom roaming the streets. and so they need to protect themselves for that. i mean, just be factual. just don't say there's an apparatus be factual. oh, sure. tucker carlson, sean hannity break basic, they say by god they say, buy guns. people are gonna take that the government can take them away from you on twitter to defending. i'm not defending the intellectually honest here either. i mean, there is an entire cultural playing dumb david nuts who have fetishized these weapons and created this mythology around. and militias and needing to stand up to a government as if you're one gun could stand up to the government. that has been a fetishization that you don't you don't have to pretend you don't know deputy mayor in the district that i used to represent, who who was found

with dozens and dozens of assault weapons and thank god through through the ingenuity of the fbi and other law enforcement agents like this was discovered. but there was there was he planning to do with him? he was. it's a great question. i think we can imagine what imagine was obviously with just one question. own a bunch of guns. you're presumably bad. hold on. hold on, david, but if you're stopped playing war, you're probably not gonna use it for good reason. i only fingers because i think you'd like to gas like our conversation, which is very frustrating, but but there is one aspect of it. i think we can find common ground if you are so into these red flag laws, then during the primary season's coming up in 2024, why don't you as a strategist talk to candidates about pushing this in there during the primary? think it's a great idea. general election there's somewhat representative did not just bring it up degree last on the sunday and the sunday show, he said. it's a great idea. praised jared moskowitz, you're doing it. just raised it again. i'm sorry that we have a platform here. flag

platform here because we can talk about a great job. you guys keep talking over the host here . thank usa. obviously it's gonna require a multipronged approach and longer conversations. i really appreciate all of you weighing in on this. be sure to tune to the top of the hour because our favorite reporters are going to be here to discuss the scoops that they're covering. of course, some of this will come up and florida governor ron desantis has this growing feud with disney that will touch on okay. but now to this started as a pep talk for employees. let me catch my breath, but it ended with the ceo admonishing them for asking about their bonuses. um we'll talk about how it went off the rails next. don't ask about what are we going to do? if you don't get a bonus? get the down $26 million. spend your time and your effort thinking about the $26 million we need and not thinking about what you're going to do if we don't get a bonus. how to grow more

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nine eastern. let's all do that . this is bonus season for a lot of employees. so staffers at the office furniture company miller knoll, ask their ceo during a video town hall how they could stay more motivated if they do not get a bonus. but her pep talk may not have had the intended effect. get our orders out our door, treat each other. well because i ndi be respectful focus on the future because it will be bright. it's not good to be in a situation we're in today , but we're not going to be here forever. it is going to get better so lead lead by example. treat people well, talk to them kind and get after it. don't ask about what are we going to do? if you don't get a bonus? get the $26 million. spend your time and your effort thinking about the $26 million we need and not

thinking about what you going to do if we don't get a bonus, alright? can i get some commitment for that? i would appreciate that. i had an old boss who said to me one time you can visit pity city, but you can't live there so people leave the city. let's get it done. thank you. oh yeah, here's another little bit of context you need in 2022. that's ceo andy owen took home $5 million in compensation, including stock options and a bonus. i'm back with the panel. that was that was that was great that clip because i'm on tiktok is, you know the tiktok is all over tiktok. she's getting pummeled and rightfully so. i just can't imagine living in that rarified air where you actually. can record to say, just suck it up, guys. you're not getting bonuses just be kind to each other about how much money we company because the company needs $26

million to hit their financial goals. that's what she was, like. go out and find the 26 million and get out of pity city. yeah maybe she could provide bus fare out of pity city, right? it's. she deserves to get all the attention and negativity that she's getting. but she's also just saying the quiet part out loud because every time the corporate america comes through with record profits and still lays off people and still hits at the c suite with bonuses, they're basically saying the same thing . is that the best management style you've ever seen? totally alison? yes. pretty close to wear face shifted. i feel happy message. you see that her eyes membership now and i was like, whoa! practice it practice ended the reading portion of that message, and then we shifted to the real portion of the beep. has she done an apology video yet done apology. since you're on the ticktock ticktock think the statement said something to

the fact that like that was just part of it. the rest of the zoom was very positive, did see that part of her statement. i didn't say you can eat cake. i was like, wow. yeah that makes it okay. i guess i mean, i just don't people go to management school. don't you learn how to use the ceo of the company? presumably she would have some magical skills, and she's talking about leading from the front, clearly not leading from the front by telling people to suck it up and leave pity city while she's probably vacationing and st kitts or someplace. i will say that that this mentality hmm. is something that really bothers the average american in this country? i mean, they see again as to elsie's point record breaking corporate profits, but they have not seen their wages increase when you adjust for inflation, and frankly, even before this latest bout, with with inflation over the past several decades, and something's gotta give. i think it contributes to a lot of the economic anxiety and angst that people see, and that unfortunately manifests itself in an increasingly polarized

environment. i think she would have been okay if she had said listen, get out of pity city. i know there were no bonuses this year, and i'm going to take a pay cut as well. shouldn't do that second part so i mean, there's some tough love. you can do that as a manager. we've all been in tough times, and we've seen cuts and all of that everyone knows the reality of that. but to see a ceo not take any of that burden on herself and then basically scold people for complaining. i mean, that's where she was not in a vacuum, right? i mean, we did go through inflation. americans were struggling, so to not complain about your bonuses. maybe you can not complain with your bonuses because you need this money to pay your bills. maybe you're counting on your bonus. yes. thank you all. great conversation. all right. it was a very threatening moment in the nfl buffalo bill's safety tomorrow. hamlin suffered cardiac arrest during a game in january, and now he is out today with a big announcement. this event was life changing. but it's not the end of my story. so i'm here to announce that i plan on making a comeback to the nfl.

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