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decided to settle $787.5 million . that's how much the fox corporation will pay. it's half of what dominion says they were seeking, but a historic amount on the less the fox corporation . clearly deciding was better to pay the money than have their star anchors try to explain under oath, the election denialism and disinformation. they either spread themselves or help spread by giving others who are lying a platform night after night after night in a statement after the settlement was announced, fox said, and i quote we acknowledge the court's rulings finding certain claims about dominion to be false. the settlement reflects foxes continued commitment to the highest journalistic standards. i just want to repeat that the first part of it said. we acknowledge the court's rulings finding certain claims about dominion to be false. that might sound sort of maybe like an apology, but it's not. they acknowledge the court ruling doesn't really mean anything and their description that certain claims about diminishing were false is vague at best. as for

the second part of that statement that this settlement reflects foxes continued commitment to the highest journalistic standards. as mike wallace used to say when interviewing someone shoveling crap. come on, if there is anything we learned from the depositions, texts and emails that were released by dominion in the lead up to this case is that there was no commitment to even basic journalistic standards where the 2020 election was concerned, fox anchor said one thing on air to the audience they feared might abandon them go over to some other. more conservative news channel and another thing off air in text and emails to one another. what most concerned fox was not properly reporting on the lives that were being spread by guests on their air or by some of their hosts know what most concerned them was losing losing viewers? fox argued it was just reporting on claims about dominion voting systems and the 2020 election. but they did that more. they did far more than that they were willing participants in spreading false claims of fraud. the machine ran an algorithm that shaved votes

from trump and awarded them to biden. they used the machines to trash large batches of votes that should have been awarded to president trump, and they use the machine to inject and add massive quantities of votes for mr biden. the only reason we really thought about it i thought democrats told us that we like whistleblowers. you're saying that these people can't talk because they're going to lose their job. now that's sean hannity, weeks after the 2020 election was cited by dominion and their defamation case, hannity told the dominion lawyers in a deposition quote that whole narrative that sidney powell was pushing. i did not believe it for one second anyone with journalistic standards would have confronted powell about her completely ludicrous, unproven and false claims. but he didn't do that. the documents also show that tucker carlson privately expressed concerns about sidney powell, as did others at fox, but he wasn't saying them on our air. according to dominion. he even sent her a text message quoting now from dominion court filing

quote. tucker carlson told sidney powell quote. you keep telling our viewers that millions of votes were changed by the software. i hope you will prove that very soon. you convinced them that trump will win. if you don't have conclusive evidence of fraud that scale. it's a cruel and reckless thing to keep saying again. he never said anything like that on his show. as the dominion documents point out, carlson hosted other election liars like michael lindell. every outlet in the country. they go michelangelo. there's no evidence and he's making fraudulent statements. no i had the evidence i dare people to put it on. i dare dominion, assuming because then it would get off faster. so this is you know, they don't. they don't want to talk about it. they don't want to say they just say you're wrong, and i'm going out making conspiracy theories go away by doing that. certainly no pushback there. there were times fox anchors made the right call , for instance, neil cavuto cut away from a live field campaign press conference by the former president's team watch. we want

every legal vote to be counted and we want every illegal votes . well i just think we have to be very clear that she's charging at the other side is welcoming fraud and welcoming illegal voting unless she has more details to back that up. i can't in good countenance. continue showing you this. all right. well, that's a sign of some journalistic standard, but we now know that fox executives were upset by what cavuto did, quoting the dominion documents about a communication from raj shaw, fox senior vice president who once worked at the white house, quote. the brand team led by rashad fox corporation notified senior fox news and fox corporation leadership of the quote brand threat unquote posed by cavuto's action. it was a quote brand threat to tell your audience that you are not going to allow unvetted unsubstantiated claims about the election on air that isn't so much corporate commitment to the highest journalistic standards. in fact, when a reporter dared to fact check the former president lies about dominion tucker carlson, according to

documents domini release was freaked out, reached out to sean hannity seemingly panicked. quote carlson told hannity. please get her fired. seriously what the f actually shocked it needs to stop immediately. like tonight. it's measurably hurting the company. the stock prices down, not a joke. the fact that he allegedly works for a news organization, and he's fretting about the impact of facts on the corporation stock price. that is a joke. the stock prices down are not the words of someone with the highest journalistic standards and by the way, according to the documents by the next morning, that reporter had quote deleted her fact checking tweet. turns out tucker carlson hated donald trump, according to messages, dominion god from fox during the discovery process, he wrote in a text message to a colleague. i hate him passionately. he also wrote, we are very, very close to being able to ignore trump. most nights i truly can't wait. we started this evening with the vita brooke, the lead counsel for dominion voting systems. um, appreciate you joining us tonight. can you talk about the

decision to settle? obviously from a financial standpoint, makes sense. it's a huge number representing corporation. a jury trial is unpredictable, no matter how strong ones. evidence may be given, though, the threats against dominion employees against the family of the ceo and election workers who use your equipments use your the dominions equipment. why settle for financial without an apology? thank you, anderson. and i appreciate that. i actually think your question on it perfectly. so i represent a corporation and bringing this lawsuit was about two things. it's about getting them accountability and it was about getting them justice and we felt like we got that accountability with the summary judgment decision and being able to expose all of the very information that you so eloquently went through in your introduction. and today was about getting them some justice not just in the form of the single largest defamation verdict. i think this country has ever seen, not just in the form of, i think the single

largest payout fox has ever made , but in the form of giving them some closure, these are people as you said, who have spent the last 2.5 years receiving vicious and horrific threats on their lives and their livelihood. and to give them the peace to not have to come out here and relive that trauma and do so on such a public stage was something that we were really, really just happy to be able to give to them today. i don't know if there's a question you can answer, but i think it's a fair question are those employees, some of whom are lower level employees who actually are in the places where the machines are? the ones getting yelled at are they going to share in the bounty of this settlement? several of our employees, our shareholders in the company itself. and so that is a wonderful thing about dominion and one of the many things about the company that we are so proud of, but lower level employees who are not shareholders. um i mean, they're the ones you're saying should get closure. will this will there be any, you know, benefit

millions. bonuses for them. the employees i'm talking about who are going to come here and show those stories. many of them are shareholders of this company, anderson um, was there an effort to get some on air apologies from fox anchors or from the corporation. look fox news are big boys and girls they can and should do whatever they need to do to live up to those high journalistic standards that you spoke so much about at the top of the show. anderson i think that what we wanted what we needed was accountability, and we got that in two forms, both in the summary judgment opinion that they finally acknowledged today they acknowledge that the statements that they broadcast on their air were false, but also in the fact that this case didn't settle until now. this case didn't settle before the documents were made public. this case didn't settle until the world got to see what really went on at fox news in 2020, and that was what we were focused on. fox released the statement

that you're referencing that read. in part, we acknowledge the court's rulings finding certain claims about dominion to be false was that language part of the settlement was that part of something you guys worked out? can you say? i can't comment on the details of the settlement agreement, anderson, but i can say that it meant a lot to the folks that dominion to finally hear. fox acknowledge the clear falsity of the statements that they aired. do you? uh do you believe that that was acknowledging the clear falsities is it just says that they, um you know they recognize the court's findings. do you feel like that's as close as you as you would get do do more? yeah, i know. i think they can do more. and i hope they do do more. but what we needed from them was them to acknowledge the just wonderful summary judgment opinion that we got from this court behind me that, as we all know, now made it crystal clear that the claims that were spread about dominion were false. in

its statement, fox also said, you know, they reference there quote continued commitment to the highest journalistic standards. does dominion believe that fox has the highest journalistic standards? i don't believe we think that anderson okay and dominion still has pending lawsuits against right wing channels. newsmax oh, in as well as against, you know some of the biggest liars out there, former president you know adviser rudy giuliani, sidney powell. mike lindell does today's settlement affect those proceedings to those continue on . yes no, anderson. you're absolutely right. we actually have another case against newsmax in this very courthouse before the very same judge as the judge. that's over that oversaw the fox news case. um i think what impacts those are actually the victories that you've seen and reported on along the way, the conclusion that the statements were false conclusions about what the first amendment does and does not protect the conclusions about the neutral report. all of those decisions will have a huge

bearing on those other lawsuits as they play out in courts here and in the district of columbia. brooke i really appreciate your time today. congratulations on the settlement. thank you. we're joined by italy. levin retired first amendment attorney represented both cnn and fox in the past and many other major media organizations in his distinguished career and cnn senior legal analyst elie honig, former assistant u. s attorney is also author of untouchable. how powerful people get away with it. um i wonder what your reaction is to the settlement. and would miss brooke was saying, i think dominion deserves a good amount of credit here. first of all, they extracted an enormous number. i mean, there's no way around that 787. million dollars is unprecedented. it's interesting because you and i were talking before there is, you know, you hear a lot of people who were hoping there'd be some, you know, embarrassing moments and big apologies. that's unrealistic. these are corporations. it makes sense that dominion made this settlement. let's remember dominions job is not to vindicate justice. their job is to take care of dominion there a small to midsize corporation.

they have to take care of their own bottom line, and i think it's worth noting. i think, miss brooke made this point persuasively. they did get accountability. the number is astronomical. they got that ruling from the judge that fox's reporting was false and they showed us they showed the world the contradictory text that that you just talked about from sean hannity from tucker carlson. so there is some value beyond the money in that. lee why do you think fox chose to settle on the cusp of opening statements? oh, i don't think there's any question anderson that they chose to settle because they knew they were almost certain to lose that liability and they knew that it was enormously risky for them to spin the roulette wheel on damages, but the damages could have been far higher than the amount that was settled for even though the amount that was settled for is the largest that has ever been paid out in any defamation. lawsuit against the media company. were you? i mean, you've had a 40 year career in in this and defamation cases. you had said this was the

strongest defamation case you had seen in all that time. were you surprised by the dollar figure? a little bit. i had predicted that the number would be somewhere around $450 million , but that it would be accompanied by a full throated on air apology by the various hosts on their shows, so i think maybe in some cosmic sense, although i have no insight information. dominion traded that for another quarter billion dollars. and you know, why do you think and that's you think that's what happened. i mean, again. you have no inside information. but the mm for fox to have their honor host one by one having to apologize that would be in there. that's something a media organization would not like to see. like fox. well, especially fox that as you know, anderson has not reported at all on this lawsuit until today and today only very briefly. the people who watch

fox news and live in that silo, fox does not want them to be hearing apologies and retractions and that sort of thing. yeah. i mean, i don't know if you stop for howie kurtz over there the you know the media watchdog over there. he twisted himself in knots. you know, i think he was on for a blip reading the fox. you know the statement? um yeah, i thought his comments were interesting. i mean, he basically said, oh, the rest of the media is disappointed. they don't get to see our people take the stand. and i think that was one of the driving forces here. motivating fox. imagine the spectacle. imagine the devastation that would have wrought to fox to have tucker carlson, sean hannity. genie peril. rupert murdoch take the stand. and i think when the judge made his ruling, i think it was last week that yes, rupert murdoch does have to testify. i think that was the straw that broke their back. i think at that point, fox just went into essentially blank check mode. to avoid that. we've learned that the judge had formally named a special master to investigative fox had withheld evidence from dominion does that go away really

important point the special master will survive here. does. the judge appointed a special master to look into whether fox itself or the lawyers improperly withheld evidence could be the lawyers violated their duty as officers of the court could be something worse than that a settlement does not make that go away that investigation should proceed. lead. do you think this settlement with his huge amount of money? do you think it makes dominion? from a legal standpoint, less willing to settle in, you know, against newsmax or some of the actual, you know, players in this the rudy giuliani's in the mike lindell's i mean, i don't even know that they be capable of selling. i don't know how much money those guys have. yeah i wouldn't think so. anderson i think maybe because there has been some fall out on on the media's part with respect to dominion not going through with the whole trial here and not insisting on an apology that they may be motivated to see at

least some of those cases through to the end, or at least flues, full throated retractions by the giuliani's powell's and newsmax is of the world, but i don't know. i think it's an important point to make here that the law of definition is not about accountability. it is not about justice, pr folks that dominion who have been feeding those lines. typical lawyers who by the way did a fantastic job in litigating this case need to recognize that the law of defamation is about compensating. people and entities for injury to their reputation, and that's how this case ended and how it should have ended. dominion got compensated to the tune of three quarters of a billion dollars for injury to its reputation, and that's how it should have ended. levine appreciate it. leo nick as well, thanks so much. we're going to have more on the fox dominion settlement a moment also ahead tonight, new details on the arrest that 84 year old

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some more time on what is now the largest publicly known defamation settlement in u. s history. 7 $787.5 million. it's going to cost fox to settle the defamation lawsuit brought by dominion voting systems, joined now by kara swisher hosted the on with kara swisher podcast formerly covered the tech beat for another rupert murdoch's media outlets. the wall street journal. it's great to have you on. were you surprised by by the settlement? no, no, we talked about it yesterday and pivot. the amount of money that they're getting here is so enormous. i don't know if you realize this but dominion, which is owned by a private equity firm. but although employees have stakes, including the ceo, john polos is worth about $80 million. so it's 10 times the valuation and so it's just an enormous amount of money with no risk. you never know what's going to happen with a jury trial. they certainly got all that information about fox out and all those emails embarrassing, terribly embarrassing emails. um and you know they got i think they did get focus in on this, including its ceo john paulus, who talked today. i interviewed him before he sued. um so i just don't i

didn't imagine they could take this risk. given the amount of money at stake here. it was interesting because they talked a lot about i did a 60 minutes piece with him a couple of months ago. and you know, they talked a lot about not only the threats that he and his family were facing, which are just horrific, but also, you know, employees at all levels of the corporation, you know, getting death threats over the phone. own people doxing their houses, things like that. um right. i don't know if you know some of the attorney before in our last . you know, i'm not sure that some of those employees will actually be seeing any of this money. i guess she was saying people who are shareholders will , but it would seem to be a good a nice thing. for you know, others in the corporation. it's not that big company. well, you'll have to ask the private equity firm that owns it. it's called staple street capital. um you know, i think probably they will be rewarding certain people when i interviewed him. this was before the lawsuit. and i think , 2020 you know, even as family members thought he was suspect, you know, asking questions,

right? yeah really bizarre. incredible yeah, and some people had real like very serious death threats he included, but there's some other employees there. that really underwent terrible things . i suspect they will make them whole. um, you know, this is, uh what? what happened to them? it's just devastating. and of course, money doesn't make up for it, but it's not bad. not bad thing to happen is a guy who started out trying to make voting easier for people with disabilities. and so with that, if that, you know that was what his goal was initially to have this happen to him when i talked to him, you know they weren't allowing his kids that he wasn't allowing his kids to answer the doorbell if it rang at his house because they were afraid of somebody, you know, leaving a package that you know might explode. i mean, it's not a lot of people feeling much more under threat, and you know, i just had olivia newton new t, whose rights for new york magazine and she said she felt that the threats were more were increasing at various places over time. you know, i don't

know what's going to happen to dominion here, but in and this is sort of a windfall for them to be able to do what they want and have more choices. there's one right behind it, smartmatic and then, of course, there are the other targets of these lawsuits, which rudy giuliani, sidney powell, mike lindell, this is not over and then for fox. besides they also have the smartmatic. one going is shareholders. this is a this is an this is a trove for shareholders and explain that cause i think a lot of people we've had some people in their talk about that, but but shareholders might say. to fox. oh, yeah. they handle this. yes exactly how they these? there's so much proof here. and of course, there were a lot. there were 7000 documents that that dominion was using. this is all discovery that they could use. if you're a shareholder saying, what the heck are you doing here paying close to a billion dollars. it's not going to stop at a billion. it's going to be several billion and they will move on. they have insurance. i suspect i don't really know how they're going to pay it. they have. i think $4 million in

cash, so they have the money to pay it. it's just shareholders might be not happy about the situation. what big picture? repercussions if any, do you do you see from from this saga for whether it's for fox or sort of the entire media echo chamber, the right wing media echo chamber. well, they'll either use it and try to weaponize it and that their victims they love playing the victim card here even though behind the scenes we all knew they felt like this. i just didn't realize it was quite as much they seem to hate trump more than anybody does, which is kind of odd, but he's their bread and butter, and of course he's back, so they're going to probably back him. it'll spend. they'll spend a lot of time dealing with this and probably not making very many changes. they don't seem to want to change and they continue to do the same things. i don't know if there's accountability here, but i do know they'll spend you know rupert murdoch will spend the rest of his life in lawsuits on this issue. um, and so it'll it'll matter on how they're going to cover the next election . and maybe they won't be quite as you know. maybe sidney powell won't just pop up. you know, the

question also is if they have if they have the former president on and he continues, as he will making these lies, you know, will they actually correct him? will they push back on? it all will know. they don't have noticed several interviews recently. they did one with the elon musk. it was full of things that weren't quite accurate. you know, they have to push back at least you know, even if they they're sort of cheerleaders for that side, but i think it did prove that this you know this is taking the word news organization and stretching it rather far and we've got now we've got the emails improved. so we'll see where it goes from here. swisher i wish i could talk to you about succession because i'm obsessed with it. i love your podcast about it. all right. i'll talk to do with the murdoch royal would have settled. i think, anyway, logan roy would have gotten under 600 million. tell you that, probably. all right. thanks so much, karen said. thank you appreciate it. programming note former fox anchor gretchen carlson, who settled her own sexual harassment lawsuit against fox will join me tomorrow and 3 60. for her reaction to today's historic settlement against her former network. we hope you can tune in for that coming up tonight, and 84 year old man accused of

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released from the hospital go fund me page created for him has raised more than $3 million, but his family says he still faces a difficult road to recovery. cnn's lucy cavanaugh has two tails. andrew lester, the 84 year old white homeowner charged with shooting ralph ural, a 16 year old black teenager turned himself into authorities today and was released on $200,000 bond and a prohibition on him possessing weapons community leaders and charles attorneys speaking out today, charge does not mean justice. we don't want him out, but we understand that's part of the process. charles mother spoke with cbs news about the events of that night when you are all went to pick up his younger brothers from a friend's home. his brothers was supposed to run outside, get in the car, and they and they come home and that was what was supposed to happen and why he was standing there. his brothers didn't run outside , but he got a couple of bullets in his body instead of a couple of twins coming up out and giving them a heart. faces two

felony charges in the shooting assault in the first degree and armed criminal action. the incident unfolded on the front porch of the home behind me, the homeowner telling police carol t porch. he rang the doorbell, but ralph had made a mistake. this home is located 115th street, the home he was supposed to go to is one block away right there 115th terrorists. according to the probable cause statement, lester told investigators he was in bed when he heard the doorbell ring, then picked up his gun before responding to answer the door, he said after opening the main door, he saw a black male, approximately six ft . tall and he believed someone was attempting to break into the house and shot twice within a few seconds of opening the main door. he also told investigators that no words were exchanged and is quoted as saying he was scared to death by the teenagers size and by his inability to defend himself. he had to face an ugly reality here in the states that the color of his

skin is often seen as a threat in and of itself. according to prosecutors, there is no evidence ever crossed the threshold into lester's home. you just cannot wrap your head around it from being shop for doing absolutely nothing wrong, told investigators he fell to the ground after being shot in the head and was then shot in the arm. he said. the man who shot him said don't come around here. gerald then ran away going to multiple homes, asking for help. investigators say they observed blood on the front porch, blood on the driveway and blood in the street after the shooting was shot on top of his left eye that i will say in the left frontal lobe. and then he was shot again in the upper right arm. that injury is extensive and the residual effect of that injury is gonna stay with him for quite a while. and anderson president joe biden today shared a photo on twitter showing him on the phone with

ralph ural and his family, he said, and i quote no parent should have to worry that their kids will be shot after ringing the wrong doorbell. we've got to keep up the fight against gun violence. he added that he looked forward to welcoming the teenager in the oval office when he felt better. we know that we are less hoping to pursue a chemical engineering degree at texas a and m university and the white house official told cnn that the president jokingly. lightheartedly try to convince the team that his on the mater, university of delaware is a much better option. anderson appreciate it. thanks so much joining us now. for more perspective, cnn chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller, who's the former nypd deputy commissioner of intelligence, and counterterrorism, does anything we know so far about this kansas city shooting come close to i mean, is he gonna argue some sort of self defense? well, the statement he gave to police was actually the basis for the arrest because he couldn't articulate the police. what it was that made him feel that there was an imminent danger to himself by this person on the

other side of the glass door that was locked that he didn't exchange any words with hmm. the burning question here is if that figure on the other side of the door had been white, would he have fired that gun? complicating part is missouri law, which is it is a standard ground law state. it's not only if someone is in your home, but the law is written to include private property. you do not have a duty to retreat, so the case is going to be based on whether mr lester is able to articulate what he was afraid of . and why he was afraid of that to the point that a reasonable person would have come to the same conclusion. possibly prosecuting attorney has said that there was a what he called a racial component to the case is i mean, hmm. why wasn't this man took and taken into custody right away? well that goes back to the complications in the law . that may be a game day called by police. but you have an 84 year old man who lives in that house who is not a flight risk.

technically that occurred on his property and his home. and you have to get a decision from the district attorney based on the law, whether they're going to charge that case, so it appears the police decided we're going to question him. we're going to record that statement. we're going to let him go home. we're going to show that statement to the d a. and if the d a authorizes the arrest then we go into the process we saw today, which is the warrant was issued on the charges he surrendered on the charges. bell was set and so on. we also now have this case in new york, a 65 year old in upstate new york 65 year old man charged with second degree murder he shot at a car that had turned onto his driveway by mistake. they were i think backing out a 20 year old woman was quick. it was killed, um again. i'm what do you make of that? well, so there's two things. one is what's going on here. but let's put that behind this. the first thing is what's the difference in the law in missouri and new york? new york is not a stand your ground

state. new york is a state where you have to articulate, eminent, reasonable person. i still believe there's an imminent threat of serious bodily injury or death before they use deadly physical force, and they have the duty to retreat if they can , so it's a very different story for somebody to say it's a reasonable threat of imminent. bodily harm or death. when a car comes down the driveway is turning around as far away from the house, and they have to shoot out of the house to hit somebody in the car where they can't even see in the dark of night. you know, this is a car with multiple people and it, um so it's going to be very difficult for him to articulate what the immediate threat was to him and what perception drove that as a reasonable person. appreciate it. thank you up next, the first glimpse of wall street journal reporter evan girls, covic, the since his arrest in russia last month. he appeared in a moscow court today to appeal. the terms of his detention. what happens next for him coming up? what will you do

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the team. expand your teams with a fiber freelancer. good morning, everyone we do begin with breaking news this morning. russian court today upheld the detention of wall street journal reporter evan hershkovitz, who was arrested last month on allegations of espionage. covic was is a u. s citizen. he was seen in court for the first time today since his arrest, it's the first attention american reporter in russia on allegations of spying since the cold war if he's up to 20 years in prison, cnn senior international correspondent

matthew chance has more okay, much food through its the first glimpse of heaven. gersh devic for weeks, the u. s reporter accused in russia of espionage standing arms folded behind the glass courtroom. cage even manages a smile for the cameras . few journalists call out their support holds strong one shouts . everyone sends you a big hello, the voice says. before being hustled away, but the court rejected an appeal for bail for gorshkov. it's to be kept under house arrest instead of in prison. outside his lawyers spoke of how he was holding up behind bars so much reading classic russian novels, once said, and watching cooking shows on tv, but the u. s ambassador was far more critical, expressing her concerns at his confinement. i

can only say how troubling it was to see evan. an innocent journalists held in these circumstances. the charges against evan are baseless and we call on the russian federation to immediately release him. it's brutal invasion of ukraine. russia has been stepping up its crackdown on free speech and dissent using the war as cover to silence, independent journalism. sure to jail long standing critics like vladimir caramels are sentenced to 25 years for treason just this week after speaking out on the conflict, the war crimes these are war crimes, and the pressure is maintained behind bars. last month, supporters of alexei navalny, the jailed russian anti corruption campaigner, accused the authorities of poisoning the

kremlin critic again this time at the penal colony. now his lawyers say he's been beaten up in his cell and faces new criminal charges. against this backdrop. evan gorshkov. it remains detained in a moscow prison. determined say his lawyers to defend himself but utterly at the mercy of an increasingly authoritarian russian state. matthew chance joins me now, along with the wall street journal's moscow bureau chief and simmons and after seeing those images, evan and that glass cage in the court courtroom. what is your reaction to today's hearing? well, anderson. thank you for having me. um we were kind of expecting the result of the hearing. the wall street journal, uh, was not surprised by the fact that his detention was upheld. it was

good to see a colleague despite the fact that we saw him in a glass box and in the courtroom essentially detained. do you know anything about his condition? what i mean, are you able to have the wall street journal? to have any communication directly with him. reporting basically shows and this is through his lawyers that his lawyers are able to have contact with him and the information that we learn is from them. and again. we have reported that he is in good spirits right now. he is obviously at lefortovo prison in moscow. um he is doing his best to keep up his spirits. we have reported that as well, reading a lot for watching colony. every shows on tv, but we don't know much more than that, because, as you know, espionage cases uh, typically classified and a lot

of the information is not revealed. and matthew. you were in moscow very recently. what is life like there now, especially for people who are not russians ? yeah i came back a few days ago. i was there for a month. and it's an extraordinary place . i mean, one of the things that i noticed. first of all is how sort of sparsely populated the city felt now, obviously, still a lot of people that have, but a lot of people have left. hundreds of thousands of people have left russia since the partial mobilization was declared, you know, kind of some months ago, and maybe it's just people i know that have left, but it just felt there were fewer people there economically. you know, the brand names have left have left the city. there are a lot of empty shops. the things that are there are very expensive as well. so it must be very difficult for people who have to kind of like, you know, their standard of living must have had a massive impact because of this economic situation. and i think you know

the just the general sort of atmosphere and the way in which sort of anti western rhetoric permeates through every pore of the state media. russia is being surrounded it enemies in the united states in britain and in the west in general, are trying to break the country up. i mean, it's in sort of almost every breath that is broadcast on russian television. in what seven like as reporter what what ? what do you think he brings to his job that that's so special? evans has terrific reporter largely because he is very familiar with russian culture and history and tradition. he is from a russian family. his parents were soviet immigrants, the united states. and so he has got this very intimate view of russian society. um and we we've reported that of course, you know, he's very passionate about russia and russians and the story in general and being able to have that kind of intimate

view is so powerful, especially when reporting from russia. matthew you talk about the process of reporting from russia how it's changed to save in the past year and a half since the war. oh i mean, it's i mean, it's transformed radically has become a much more document was always pretty hazardous, but it's become a much more dangerous. um sort of undertaking. and of course, the arrest of evan gersh novich has has made everybody what what remains of the of the press corps from the west in russia. really think twice and three times about what kind of work they're doing, whether it falls foul of any law, you know, and what risk you know the you want to take? i mean, it's not just the arrest. of course i mean, since since the conflict began, russia is introduced legislation , which is effectively criminalized critical reporting . it is illegal now to discredit the russian military. it is, you

know, illegal effectively to say the word war to call it a war instead of a special military operation and violation of those requirements of those laws can result and often do report, particularly local journalists, very lengthy prison sentences, matthew chance. thanks so much, nancy. ms thanks so much for being on the wall street journal moscow bureau chief. i can imagine the strain you and all your colleagues are under as is evans family. and i wish you all the best. thank you. thank you. still had the governor of oklahoma calls for the resignation of several officials in one county after they were allegedly caught in an audio recording, making racist comments about lynching black people and talking about killing journalists. now, new action is being taken against those accused details ahead. there and how are you? good enough. indeed. dreams ghetto. don't

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journalists, oklahoma's republican governor said the three in another county officials should all be fired after secret audio recording captured their alleged remarks and was published by a local newspaper over the weekend. now the accused of pushing back with their own accusations, details from randi kaye. i don't put three hitmen. very quiet. guys cut no mercy. officials in curtain county, oklahoma, allegedly talking about hiring hitmen to kill newspaper publisher bruce willingham and his son, reporter chris willingham was complete shock. no. i couldn't believe it. yeah i've been taking it seriously. willingham owns the curtain gazette, which released the recording, he's secretly recorded the county officials following a commission meeting last month left a recorder going after i left the room the officials allegedly heard on the recording arma curtain county sheriff kevin clark district to commissioner mark jennings,

sheriff's investigator alicia manning. in jail administrator larry hendricks. according to a cnn affiliate, the willingham have written at least 30 articles alleging corruption involving the curtain county sheriff's office they were talking about. killing me and my son. they're insignificant in my life. scientists around goes around it. the people on the recording can be heard talking about digging two holes. deep holes are ever needed escalator. these are three done, and it doesn't stop there on that same audio recording, the people talking shared their dismay that lynching black people is no longer acceptable back a day. what does that. take a black that would harass him in the cell. i'd run chair. yeah it's not like that little mud creek and hang them up with the dam broke. yeah. you can do something about it there. i got more rocks than we got, oklahoma

governor kevin stitt told cnn in a statement. he is appalled and disheartened by the comments in the released audio he's calling on the officials to resign. so is i. double mayor craig young to know that this is 2023. we still have folks who want to live like the 1921 al capone lifestyle when you start talking about lynching, killing folks and. and anderson. cnn has not been able to verify the authenticity of this recording or confirm. who said what on it. we have reached out to the people believed to be on the recording the sheriff's office. anderson did release a statement saying that their initial investigation does show them that the recording was quote altered. they also said that this was a recording that was obtained illegally because they didn't have the consent of those people at the meeting who were in the room now, the newspaper says. that this audio was legally obtained. but anderson is also worth pointing out how this is upended the lives of this reporter and his father,

the publisher, we understand that they have been advised to leave that county at least temporarily. okay appreciate it. thank you tonight on cnn prime time. the challenges of being a black man in america is that oklahoma story and the shooting a black teenager who rang the wrong doorbell, sparks and nationwide conversation that's minutes away. the top of the bao grow more vibrant flowers. step one. feed them with miracle gro, shake and feed. that's it. miracle gro o to grow. identical twins. bethany and stephanie both struggled with cpap for their sleep apnea. but stephanie got inspired and implanted device that works inside the body. there's no reason to keep struggling, inspire, learn more in view, important safety information and inspire sleep dot com. professionals customizing install systems do

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