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proof that top hosts and executives at the right wing network knew that the baseless conspiracy is being pushed on air weren't true, but still so doubt about the company and legitimacy of the election anyway. the truth matters. lies have consequences. today's settlement. 787,000,500. represents vindication. and accountability. fox has admitted to telling lies about dominion. that caused enormous damage to my company. our employees and the customers that we serve. the 787 million fell short of the 1.6 billion dominion was seeking , but it is a staggering amount in a defamation case and the company is vowing this isn't over. money is accountability. and we got that today from fox. but we're not done yet. we've

got some other people who have some accountability coming towards them. here to discuss sarah fisher, laura coates, maggie haberman and alison camerata, who spent 16 years at fox, but first one of the lead attorneys from dominions. victorious legal team joins us now justin and nelson hi, justin . thanks for joining us. congratulations on the settlement. how many settlement offers did fox make? well, you know, it's funny. i was in the courtroom, picking a jury and when i walked into the courtroom this morning, i didn't know it was about to happen, and we walked out and we had a settlement, so it happened pretty quickly. and what happened leading up to that, though in terms of settlement offers and what was going on behind the scenes, because, as we know, yesterday, the trial was delayed. so bring us behind the scenes. why wasn't a settlement reached before? things got going today before you got to that jury selection? well, it's a good question. i

think for us, really, it wasn't so much about a settlement as a settlement. it was always about accountability. and today what we think we achieved was accountability and vindication. because for us, not only of course, was there over three quarters of a billion dollar damages award. but as you mentioned in your opening, there was an admission and acknowledgement of the court summary judgment order that found these lies about dominion to be false. and, of course, as has been seen in the press. over the past couple of months, we have seen the internal emails texts showing that fox did, in fact, know that these were allies. and so today, i think was really the culmination of that, and it came together pretty quickly. but dominion initially wanted fox to make on air apologies. why wasn't that part of this settlement? well i really think again going back to

what our goals were. our goals were accountability number one and trying to have some semblance of a hole for dominion as a company to have the some remuneration for the reputational hit that it has suffered and continues to suffer as a result of these lies and those have been our goals all along. and today's settlement achieved that and we could have gone all the way through trial and obtained some unknown judgment. but what we achieved today was certainty. what we achieved today was again nearly $800 billion. excuse me. $800 million in the settlement number and we achieved the admission of from fox that it was the acknowledgement that the court, in fact was correct in calling these lies. so for us, it was about the fact that ultimately go ahead. sleep, please. i mean , let's talk about this because

it was not necessarily a full throated admission here when you look at the statement that the statement is acknowledging the court's rulings finding certain claims about dominion to be false. your lawyer, you know, those words are very carefully chosen, and the reality is millions of people in the united states. that's the sere ili know about this? i mean, do do the viewers of fox, are they owed an apology or retraction here? i mean, if they don't know about this, where is the accountability that you speak of? well, it's a really good question, and i think part of what really is going on here is that we are sometimes we're in these bubbles. and what happened to dominion was that it just got caught in this torrent of lies and got brought into this alternative universe where conspiracy theories dominated. this is a civil litigation case and what we think happened here was we took the civil litigation as far as we can take it. we

could have gone all the way to verdict and under defamation law. you don't get an apology. you get money. and so what we achieved here with the statement that fox made with the certainty of money and again from our damages. we had a base case damages model, and then we had a growth damages model, and the settlement today was above our base case damages models, so we see. today's settlement is complete vindication and really a message that as your opening, said, lies do have consequences , and it's about having coming back. to the shared facts, because ultimately we can agree or disagree on issues even to the most profound importance. but we have to have shared facts in this society to have a functioning democracy, and i think today's settlement was a real step in that direction. and so what i hear from you is that there is this acknowledgement in the statement, plus the money

from the settlement. there was no apology in this statement. from our from what i am gathering from you and i'm going to open this up for my colleagues to ask questions, but just one final point on that how much of a sticking point to reach the settlement was an apology or retraction. how much of a role did that play in the settlement negotiations? because i know that was something dominion was asking for early on. well i don't really want to get into that. i think at the end of the day this goes back to what are goals really were at this entire, uh, settlement and this entire litigation, which was number one accountability and number two to have some type of monetary settlement. and look , this is really the first time in the 2020 election lies that someone has been held accountable and held accountable in a big way. and so that's why we see today is a real victory. okay and i'm gonna open up now. laura coates. i think you have a question here. i do. you know, it seemed to me that the whole dynamic of this really changed the second of the judge. i said,

look. they can't make any of the first amendment claims. you've got essentially a leg up. you only have to prove actual malice. did you at that point in time? thank this is really the biggest hurdle we had to overcome to fast track towards settlement. well. our goal was to take this to trial. we did not have a goal of settlement. we had a goal of winning a trial. it was only when there is an offer here. that really. was showed was effectively a victory that my client decided to take it. i do think that the summary judgment order of the court was really helpful. we obviously thought the facts were on our side. um, and to be clear. we embrace the first amendment. the actual malice standard is absolutely critical for journalists. and i think, actually what? this settlement. today's shows is that the actual

malice standard isn't just on paper. that it journalists and you know, this journalists can't knowingly lie. journalists can't say one thing in private and another thing in public. and when we have that protection and that knowledge that in fact, there is the protection of the actual malice standard, and that is from the first amendment. we can be assured that journalists will go ahead and report the truth and will do so with the four freedom of the first amendment allows. quickly. i'm gonna sarah your team had mentioned earlier that this is sort of the first step. what happens next for dominion? what does this mean for other lawsuits against other networks that were promoting false theories about the 2020 election? yeah, that's a great question. this is one of seven lawsuits. this one settled today . there are six left, and i think it sends a message to the other six lawsuits that accountability is coming as well . it's not over. we have lawsuits against newsmax against

one american news against sidney powell against rudolph giuliani and mike lindell in my pillow and patrick byrne. and many of them are still propagating. these lies about the election, and they are still having an effect. and so we intend to hold people accountable because, as we have said, the truth really does matter and if you are lying that has consequences. it had a consequence for dominion in the horrible here the grievous blow to the reputation that it had over the past couple of years and the threats the death threats that the company really continues to receive, and it had a consequence for fox. today they paid nearly three quarters of over three quarters of a billion dollars. justin nelson, thank you so much, and i want to turn to alison. you worked at fox for 16 years. what do you make of the fact that fox viewers won't hear a retraction or apology outright? i consider

this a win for fox. i considered a win for dominion, as he just said. they get a lot of money, and it helps their checkbook. i don't know that it helps their reputation because if they if fox never has to make a correction or retraction, how is it going to help their reputation when they were disseminating disinformation to fox viewers? so now they're not going to make a correction on air to fox viewers? so i'm not sure how it's going to help. dominion's reputation. but i think that it's a win for fox. the fact that fox doesn't have to take. he kept saying that to take accountability, they're not doing that publicly on this statement is the most weak sauce that they find that there are certain claims they don't even say their box made the claim. certain claims to be false. they're not saying that they lied. they're saying to me false. sometimes false statements were made that yeah, that's not intentional difference between false and knowingly right, which is the standard exactly my colleague jim rutenberg at the times reported earlier. i'm just reading it here that under the terms of the settlement of fox news will not have to apologize

or admit to spreading false claims on network programming, according to a person familiar with the details. so that gets exactly what alison was talking about. i'm sure fox used this as a win for fox to because the amount of money well painful as far less painful for fox and for news corporation than it is for many other entities, certainly for sidney powell or giuliani or a lot of other people who are facing suits. and if you know the lawyers point was, if we wanted to go to trial we wanted to, you know, sort of hold people accountable if you're not demonstrating that in open court , and you are making a deal by which fox does not have to admit wrongdoing that i'm not really sure what they did other than get a lot of money, and a lot of money is something but it's not everything that too, because the pedaling of the lies continues, right. i mean, you heard that's that's my big question here. i mean, donald trump is the front runner for the nomination again. so what does this look like? for the next year? exactly what i was gonna say. well, no. i mean, there is what we quote unquote. the court of public opinion wants to hear and the drawn out conclusions and testimony of the

top anchors. and then there's the goals of the actual litigants. there is a disconnect between the two. you see, you saw gretchen carlson's tweet where she was begging. don't settle. essentially, she wanted to have them take the stand because she wanted to see this play out and have the very confirmation of accountability in that format and have truth really be on trial and in the best interests of dominion. and so that disconnect what he's speaking to as a litigator. essentially look, that may be the goal of the court of public opinion and this being really the illustration of accountability since the post election lies but for them as lawyers they don't want to be in trial, handing over their case to 12 members, which you know, the lawyer in me is saying, i understand our clients said it was a failure if you went to trial, but then why, then? did fox not settled this earlier? right this has been going on for 2.5 years, right? and i think that was another point. gretchen carlson made, um and they had to pay out all this money and they did not have to do the on air apology, according to the statement, according to new york

times reporting, but they did release this statement this week. sauce statement is allison rightly points out, um so why didn't they do this earlier? legal experts i've been talking to say they absolutely should have because they would have avoided so much embarrassment leading up to the trial and all of these pretrial hearings and in the discovery one other thing i wanted to know. i asked some of my sources in addition to an apology should they be required to issue a retraction or any corrections because it's one thing to not want to apologize for doing things wrong, but as journalists when we get things wrong, we have to issue a correction at least make people aware that that's how you know it's a journalistic. to shin and so when they say they're the highest journalistic, they have the highest journalistic, not issue a retraction of the deal. and, in fact, what the statement says is, we acknowledge the court found this literally correct literally, is actually very loyal, actually precise to what the judge did and what the court did without actually saying, and we agree, and we

recognize there's no ownership of it. what do we do is we look forward right? what this means and kind of going back to what we're talking about. if trump is the nominee right how he is the front runner. he's going to continue to spew. these lies about the 2020 election, right? i mean, how does this play out? there has been there was at least until recently, a noticeable decline in trump's visibility on fox, and that had been going on for weeks, you know, and months there had been this clear interest in ron desantis from the entire rupert murdoch empire that has shifted somewhat in recent weeks as ron desantis has made some self inflicted errors. and you saw trump do a sean hannity interview. you saw him to a tucker carlson interview. but he's not on whenever he wants to be the way he was. he's not phoning into every show the way he was. will that still happen if the audience demands it? i don't see anything that has changed in what their market planning is, but i do think that there is probably going to be some internal edicts on don't just let him say whatever he wants on air, and i think that trump's illness visors are impressing on him. this is a

loser for you. so he continues to say these things. untruth social, which has a rather small following and he's not really doing it elsewhere. can't happen , though. i know alison, you can speak this. obviously, in this notion. you can't have this juxtaposition between look if the edict is you can't just let the lions go unchallenged and you put someone in whose kind of a straw person to say the opposite, almost the devil's advocate. that's there in the stage position just to say, see , we presented alternate argument here because the audience itself does not seem to have the appetite even have covered this trial. it's not as if they're going out of their way to cover the dominion trial. right now they're going to try to spend it in any way and so the question will be going forward for journalists. will it be enough when you are aware or have some basis to know that what is being said is false. is it not just present a prop scarecrow? you're bringing that up? because i don't think they're going to fact check trump. i don't think they're gonna stop. i don't think they're gonna fact. check him. i also don't think they're going

to give him open mic night. that's all. i'm saying that i think they may still give him open mic night is because here there was a clear victims. so dominion was the victim of the lies when donald trump just spews his laws if he's not going after, say, dominion or smartmatic, there is no victim other than democracy. good point. mm hmm. and, you know, um, truth right defamation against democracy. but where's the victim? you're so right. and i'm so glad you made that point. thank you all really appreciate the conversation. alright coming up a black teen ring the door, wrong door bell and got shot. now we're learning what the white homeowner accused of firing the gun allegedly told police and what it exposes about the reality of being black in america up next. mm hmm. hmm. hmm. hmm hmm. hmm. mm hmm. get

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white supremacy, bigotry and racism that we see today. how do you handle it? so glad my son is just 10 years old. and while i maybe five, ft three my son is already well over my height. just 10 years old and you speak to me very personally and the idea of what it's like when you have to figure out how the world is going to see your child and for the better part of many years now we have fixated on the discussion about how police are seeing our children, as if the only quote unquote conversations that black parents are having with their children is not about books. it's not about learning. it's not about love and the prime ms of wonderful future that is always confined to place but i gotta tell you, it often is about how the world at large cities that the fact that he was present at the door as any amazon delivery or my girl scout daughter selling cookies may have been something said i'm so afraid as to shoot and aim to kill in the head and as a mom, i am constantly struggling with

how i explain this to my children and how i prepare them. does it mean that i make them all the more courageous and all the more outspoken and brave and have the bravado or do i make them humble and a little bit softer, so that they are perceived differently? that's not a decision i ought to have to make. and, you know, 11 thing that i immediately think about is look as reporters were often times in the field. we actually have to go knock on the doors of a lot of these places in places that sometimes don't have a lot of black people, so i am stepping up onto this front porch doing my job. but i know that i stand out that i could be perceived as a threat. so i can tell you whenever i ring a doorbell just to take an extra precaution, i stepped almost all the way off the porch. i looked to my left and right, just in case someone comes as to the door. in the manner that that we saw here, because sometimes as we saw in this case, there are no words there are no there is no time for discussion. there is

no opportunity as as as we have to do sometimes to make someone feel comfortable through conversation, especially as reporters and i think when i look at this case, obviously this is one that i followed closely professionally, but you know, it's sometimes you have to take that reporter head off when i examine kind of the scenario that this teenager was put in, watched you get arrested on television. yeah nothing. besides being present in this is seen as a reporter where i think you had a visible media past. i'm not mistaken. there were other reporters there. yeah but you were singled out well, and that's that, i think is a is a good example. i'll take my reporter hat off for a second here to talk about that. and just say that you know when it's happening to you in the moment you're just trying to get through the moment because you don't know what slight move is going to trigger some reaction, some internalization that these officers or whoever might have had a community member may have had and it wasn't until after i get back. one of our colleagues josh campbell is white, white man right reporter. he was nearby and he said, you know, i

just talked to the cops told him who i was. they let me go about my business and in that moment those those are moments that you cannot really put into words because it's been laid out for you. in a sense, the solution. where do we go from here, eric? well, you know, i think america has a rich. comfort uh and really, and just both being culturally and across institutions being comfortable in treating black children as subhuman, uh and really treating and seeing black humans. black people in this space allows for people to lie or or or rely on the notion of i'm in fear and that it's just for people to cause harm to this population. um we were mentioning the height or age of adulthood when you look at black boys and girls as early as 13 years old. that's when american society starts to

look at black children as adults. i think there's a reckoning. that's the solution. there's a reckoning that needs to happen in america. and i believe the teams that i'm part of the teams of other grassroots organizations, really pushing legislation changing policy changing how the landscape has been built to fundamentally shift. um. and undo the legacy of white supremacy. that's what we're seeing. alright eric cumberbatch, omar jimenez. laura coates. thank you for having that real raw conversation that is so needed. we appreciate it up ahead as chris christie thinking of taking on donald trump again. jake tapper's here with brand new reporting about the former presidential candidates. political future up next. what will you do? will you make something better? create something new. our dell technologies advisors can provide you with the tools and

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just heard there, he joins a growing list of republicans expressing disapproval over desantis his battle with disney. all of this amid rising speculation about christie's own potential 2024 white house bid. cnn's jake tapper joins us now to talk about this. so, jake, what do you make of more republicans going after desantis in recent days and weeks? well it reflects. i think the fact that desantis has emerged as the leading non trump candidate, one that a lot of members of the republican establishment seem to have been getting behind. and it also reflects the fact that i think everyone expects desantis is going to run and people know that you know, no one is going to as in remember in 15 4016 people thought that one person would take on donald trump. and then those two would fall by the wayside, and then they could go on and get the nomination. and i think that there's a realization from candidates like potential candidates like chris christie, that like you're going to have

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will. alright so big picture here we're just a few months away from the first gop primary debate hard to believe you've seen a lot of these primaries unfold. what do you make of where the field is right now? donald trump remains the front runner. and i think you know he has conservative media, fox and all the others lined up behind him. there's no longer any pretense that they are out for conservative values. it's all about just viewership as we saw in the $787,500,000 settlement with dominion. it's all just about. they don't care about journalism. they don't care about conservative principles. all just about having their viewers as a business model, and those viewers like donald trump and fox is willing to lie for viewers. like that, so it's not just donald trump. it's donald trump and an entire conservative media apparatus that does scientists and christie and pants and others are going to have to face and that's going to be formidable. all right. it sure will be jake tapper. thanks

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investigation of hunter biden. in addition to hearings, we've seen a flurry of subpoenas and demands, insisting they need information on everything from ms taste in art to his bank records, even who his friends were doing business with 14 years ago. joining us now is the chairman of the house oversight committee. republican congressman james comer of kentucky. so as chairman of the house oversight committee, you have been investigating members of joe biden's family and their business with the bidens. have you found anything illegal while he was actually in office? we found a lot that's certainly unethical. we found a lot that should be illegal. the line is blurry as to what is legal and not legal with respect to family influence peddling. i think people in both parties have argued for many years that family members of both republicans and democrats, especially family, members of president have benefited. from

our adversaries around the world. i don't think that anyone would dispute the fact that we need to increase the ethics laws and the disclosure laws for one thing that we're concerned about. the president joe biden has said he didn't have any knowledge of his family's, uh business dealings or whatever you wanna call them, but we find more and more evidence every day that he was knowledgeable of what his family was doing and that we believe that, with with perspective, excessive amounts of money that the families receiving they were certainly more than likely getting something in return from joe barton. specifically, have you seen in terms of that dynamic happening that you say and again was any of this happening this evidence that you purport to have happening while biden was actually in office because in this announcement last month, you will claim that at least three biden, family members and two associates receive payments that originated from china, but he said it was 2017 that was

after joe biden had left office . it was with the people that initiated the payments had met with joe biden while he was vice president. i do want to note for our viewers. you're basing this on suspicious activity reports filed by the treasury department. millions of them are filed every year, and very rarely does law enforcement actually get involved? how does the presence alone mean that anything? um illegal was being done. and why wouldn't law enforcement have followed up before? if there actually was meat to the bones on these sars reports? well, we also have bank records, so there's two different things that we have a subpoenaed. six different banks and got bank records also now have access to the treasury suspicious activity reports, which are the bank violations if the concern is china as you note why no investigation of the chinese bank account, donald trump maintained between 2015 and 2017. yeah we're gonna look into everything. you know that.

that's one of the rumors that they say well, we're not looking into to donald trump. let's just face the facts here. pam donald trump has been investigated by every committee in washington. he's being investigated by special counsel the media has always investigated donald trump . we're gonna have some questions for trump and some of his family members, including jared kushner. so i expect them the answer those questions. but right now, joe biden's friend, the united states, china is our biggest enemy, and i think you would have every democrat that would go on your show. say the same thing. we need to worry about china. why is china is our biggest enemy? sending millions and millions of dollars to the biden family and not just the president's son and brother. now we've got multiple family members here. you mentioned trump. you mentioned jared kushner, who got that $2 billion loan from saudi arabia. because a lot of people do bring that up. how could you investigate the bidens when you see all this activity from trump and his family members benefiting from his time in office? what specifically? are you going to do to investigate trump and his

family members and what they did as a relates to china and other countries and how they benefited? hmm we want to know exactly what the terms of that loan to kushner was. but i'll tell you right now, one thing that that's a glaring difference in what what? kushner did what trump did versus what all these biden family members. did. i know what trump's business was. he owned hotels, he owned golf courses, the own real estate. i was buildings. same thing with jared kushner, except for golf courses. now what exactly is the biden business? i haven't found a business, ma'am. there is no energy company, one of the things that the biden lawyer said when we first disclosed the first million dollar transfer to the binds was well that was money used for seed capital. that's not true. we haven't found any seed capital going into any legitimate business. we found wires going into biden. family members, personal checking accounts. so you know the president. has it been forthcoming with the american people about this? we're going to get answers, and i hope at the end of this, there's

legislation that defines what influence peddling is draws a line in the sand said you cannot do this. or you will be held accountable to the maximum extent of the law. regardless of the party. you just mentioned a lack of transparency. and i'm wondering because jamie raskin on your committee has accused you for lack of transparency, not sharing information, not sharing the hunter biden dry hunter biden laptop drive with him and other democrats on the committee. as you well know, house rules mandate that all evidence is shared between both , you know the majority and the minority party. so what do you say to that? i want to give you an opportunity to respond. jamie raskin's has got to be joking. i mean, he's lead to impeachment of donald trump. he was on the january 6th committee. he didn't work with any republicans when we do subpoenas, hunter biden laptop drive. have you let democrats see that the that everybody has the hunter biden laptop? abc has it. the washington post has it. the new york times you haven't given it to him, okay, can get it himself. and by then president

biden for his part, and hunter biden. they have denied any wrongdoing. as you have seen. president biden has stood by his son as well and said he had no knowledge of business dealings. he has stood by that. i want to ask you about afghanistan because you're holding a hearing tomorrow on the afghanistan withdrawal. do you expect any new revelations to come out of that hearing? well we've met with the inspectors, general. and as you as you know, pam, uh every cabinet has an inspector general any time there's a big appropriation for something like afghanistan. we have an inspector general. those are our bipartisan. actually they're nonpartisan. they're supposed to come in. they're supposed to be like accountants. they're supposed to make sure that money is going where they say it's going. it's not being wasted. there's not problem. anything the this administration, not only they're not working with republicans on oversight. they're not working with the inspectors general and the inspector general for afghanistan. for the afghanistan reconstruction. uh i believe

that tomorrow he's going to talk about how frustrated he is and that they have absolutely no ability to audit the money that's being sent to afghanistan . i think a lot of people don't realize we're still sending billions of dollars to afghanistan for humanitarian aid, so it's just like another country where we send for a night. only it's a lot of foreign aid. and what our fear is, is this money is going to the taliban instead of going to the actual afghanis, who are our allies to the children? the women who are our allies who are suffering now because the taliban is in control of afghanistan. are there any specific examples of that, though of money actually going directly to the taliban from the u. s. and what would the alternative be cut off humanitarian assistance while we wait for better bookkeeping and a country now run by the taliban ? well i don't i don't have any desire to send a penny of american tax dollars to the to the taliban, and i think that that's possibility of what's going on right now. and i worry that because they're not communicating. and being

forthcoming with what's going on in afghanistan that some of this could be happening in ukraine and where we are spending a significant amount of tax dollars. i know some of the tax dollars are going for ammunition . i know some of its going for humanitarian aid, but we hear that not all of it is chairman comer. thank you for your time tonight. great. have you on appreciate it. thank you come back as nfl stardom are. hamlin gets the all clear to play again after suffering cardiac arrest. i died on national tv in front of the whole world. he tackled the odds. what are the risks of him getting tackled again? on the field? dr. sanjay gupta is up next. good morning, everyone we do begin with breaking news this morning to you and your team on the ground pressing for answers. it's really important. all across the country. people are working hard to build a better future, so we're hard at

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all is for me to still have my people and my people still have me. hamlin also revealed exactly what led to his collapse. a rare condition called kamo show courtis here to explain is dr sanjay gupta, sanjay, i think it's really a surprise for people that he's cleared to go play. he's only 25 years old. but still does it surprise you that he's gotten this full clearance to play soon? it is a emotional, you know, just listening to him, pamela. and also you know the fact that we all witnessed this i mean, we all saw something on live television, as he pointed out that most people had never seen before. having said that it doesn't surprise me, in part because as as sort of difficult as it was to watch that cardiac resuscitation. there's been 3.5 months that have passed and what the fact that they've said that they cleared him to play. what that means is that they basically said his heart function is back to normal. and that he doesn't have an underlying problem and anatomical problem with his

heart or an electrical problem, for example, so the last 3.5 months, pamela, they've been doing a lot of tests to basically figure out was was there some underlying problem here? echocardiograms ekgs, m r i. c t scans all these tests and they basically found that there really it didn't show anything. and that's why you basically say at this point, he should be good to go. the american heart association american college of cardiology, they weigh in on things like this, and i'll preface by saying that this is a rare occasion. so it's not like you have 10,000 patients you can look at and say here's what the data shows. but when the american college puts it together, what they basically say is that if no underlying cardiac abnormality is found that individuals can safely resume training and competition after resuscitation from commercial courtis, so it's hard to believe i agree with you when you watch that, but it's not a surprise that he's being allowed to play again. what more can you tell us about commercial court

is and what is the risk of any of him playing again? so commercial cortez, which is something that you know was speculated to be the cause. from the very beginning. it's a it's a situation where the heart through the chest wall right at the time that it's starting to relax. so it beats the heart beats. it relaxes. beats relaxes right the time that it's starting to relax that milliseconds. it takes a significant blow to the chest wall and to the heart, and that basically keeps the heart then from relaxing. it just goes into like a fibrillation they call and that's what can lead to the cardiac arrest again. this is rare. it typically happens in younger athletes than tomorrow. hamlin typically, it's adolescence, and, frankly, it's not typically football. it's a it's a sport that usually involves a ball like baseball or lacrosse. and that's what hit somebody in the chest and causes that split second sort of commercial. courtis that's what we sort of know about it. what is interesting is like with concussions. pamela if you've had a concussion there's plenty

of evidence to suggest you are more likely to have a second concussion. we can't really say that with commercial cornice. there's not. ah more likely sort of chance that he's going to have this happen again. in fact, what they're basically saying is that his chance of having this is the same as the general population's 25 year olds who play sports like he does. so that's why they're clearing him to play. alright, dr sanjay gupta. thank you so much. thank you. next on cnn. what if your boss told you to stop complaining and quote leave? pity city is at a bridge too far. alison camerata takes it up with their panel coming up on cnn tonight, but first and intruder apprehended at the white house today. he's not going to be doing any jail time , but perhaps a time out. that's next. fire it up, randy. that's

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