really interesting to talk to them. it's certainly was eye opening for me. so thank you. hope you tune in. good evening, everyone. i'm alison camerata. welcome to cnn tonight. every night this week we've reported on a young person in america getting shot after making an innocent mistake, bringing the wrong doorbell, pulling into the wrong driveway and now opening the wrong car door. two teenage cheerleaders in texas shot in a grocery store parking lot after they mistook the suspect's car for their own on saturday, and upstate new york 20 year old kaylin together and a friend's car pulled into the wrong driveway. her grieving father explains what he hopes happens to the shooter. angers me so badly. and i just hope to god that he dies in jail. tonight we're going to talk about one city that has managed to cut gun violence in half and we'll find out how they did it. plus the

supreme court is considering the case of a mail carrier and evangelical christian who says his faith does not allow him to work on sundays. can he be forced to and few hours ago, i sat down with a group of dedicated fox viewers to see what they think of the $787 million settlement that fox had to pay for spreading misinformation about dominion voting systems. a show of hands . how many of you are surprised by the $787 million settlement that fox agreed to pay to dominion for broadcasting false information about the voting systems. none of you. okay we'll get to that. but we do start with yet another story of two teenage cheerleaders who made the innocent mistake of walking up to the wrong car in a parking lot thinking it was theirs as we all have at some point, but for that common misunderstanding, they got shot. i want to bring in my panel lz granderson from

the los angeles times, alyssa farah griffin, former white house communications director, our law enforcement analyst john miller and jessica washington from the root great to see all of you, john. this is the third night in a row that we have reported on an innocent mistake like this getting someone shot. what is going on in this country. clearly there is some confusion here, and i mean i don't know how we got here. the question is you know the drumbeat of stories about crime going up? you know, all that goes on and that equals fear. and then there's this weird calculus that you know, gun ownership means being able to prevail over fear. and then there's this even stranger and darker calculus, which is well if i use my gun out of fear that i am therefore justified. and it is becoming harder and harder to explain these incidents away. um, except for kind of looking at this phenomenon because we have three kinds of weird gun

violence. we have a regular crime guns, criminals using guns to commit crime. we can talk about that. i know my way around that one went pretty well. we have the active shooter sphere. which is the mass murder thing that's disconnected from crime. those people don't expect to get away and often expect to die. but now we're seeing this strange middle ground of random shootings that are not accidental that are on purpose by people who would be otherwise considered rational, making irrational decisions because they have the power of this gun. i don't know where we're going here. i'm so glad that you put it into those three buckets because i do think they're distinct. they are so jessica. it's like, i don't know if everybody's on a hair trigger. right now. i don't know if the people who are on a hair trigger who are most scared have access to guns. i don't like john. i'm just looking for answers of what is going on that people in a split second before any questions are asked, are shooting. yeah i think it's terrifying this idea that a mistake that we all make all of the time you know, going up to the wrong door, you know, i

think recently there is another incident of someone you know, having to turn around in the wrong driveway. things that are just so benign. i think what's happening is we have this. it's well it is about, you know, having gun access to guns, but it's his culture of we need guns to protect ourselves. if this is something important, i think this has been pushed. you know, politically culturally united states for a long time. this idea of what you have to have this weapon or protect yourself. you know, in this country, it's so important. you have a gun in order to protect yourself against intruders. and i think then people see, you know this messaging time and time again, and then they act on it. and these really kind of bizarre circumstances. listen, i do think there's a connection to fearmongering. i do think that there is some fearmongering going on. and that there is a feeling of we're under assault or the others are coming in. and all of that does heighten this hair trigger. well, it certainly does, because in nearly all of these cases, it's somebody with a gun, not even asking a question just shooting before and then asking questions after , and that's horrifying. that's not ever what should happen. having you know the right to self defense means there has to

be some kind of act of aggression for you to defend that someone pulling into your driveway. i honestly think that this is the logical conclusion of the of what we've seen of fearmongering in our country. i think there's an element of our adversaries having pit us against one another for the last decade whether it's over social media whether it's through technology, you know foreign adversaries. i think there's an element of for nexus in the sense that we look at neighbors as our enemies in a way that we didn't before. people don't have that same sort of community orientation that even 20 years ago, we would have had used to go to your neighbor's house to borrow some sugar, and now you're not going to knock on their door. pull out a weapon. you also can't eliminate the guns from the conversation. i believe, fundamentally and legal gun ownership. but if you're somebody who's going to shoot before even asking questions if your doors knocked on, there should be a question about if you should be owning a gun. then what do you think is going on? i just think we're just seeing more. what's always going on to be quite honest with you? i mean, i've been a reporter. small town newspapers. big newspapers. there have been tons of these stories that my newspapers that i've worked at

have had to cover accidental shootings, mistaken identities, things of this nature. it's just because of 24 hour news media and social media. we're just seeing more of it just pulling into the wrong driveway. i mean, i agree. there's always been shootings but pulling into the wrong driveway and somebody shooting at you while you're on your way out in a mall parking lot, a supermarket parking lot going up to the wrong car getting shot that i don't know. doesn't that feel a little different feels as if it's more of just craziness that's always occurred. i mean, i remember covering a story on father's day, and it's a story that shook me to my core, but basically it was this dad had dropped this family off from father's day, the mom realized she forgot something and asked her dad to go to the store and get it. he ends up accidentally hitting one of his children. and you know, it's like oh, but you found out later he was drinking, and that may have been a part of it, and it's like going well, what's going on? everyone's drinking and driving. it's like going well, let's calm down a little bit. so when i think about these particular incidents are very different. we don't even know

why the 25 year old suspect, you know who's who's supposedly shot at the at the cheerleaders. we don't know what triggered them. we don't know if he was afraid for us because i haven't seen the reporting yet. we don't know if he was expecting someone else. it was late at night. so before we start keeping these things all together, i think it is important that we wait for the details of everything, but overall, i don't think it's more or less. i think it is the awareness that's increased. john so i mean the empirical data. you know, in new york in 1992 93 . we had 5000 shootings a year. in 2017 we had under 1000. you know that number is lower today , even though it's going up a slight bed because of some crime conditions in new york. so we're not where we were before. but and maybe l z is right. maybe this is the effect of social media rapidly moving information that then spills into mainstream media and magnifies. but there

is something going wrong when you go from a nashville to louisville to a you know from a you've all day from a new town when this becomes. a problem for us on the news desk to decide. what used to be a very big story is something we'll even cover because these things have become too common. we really have to step back and say who are we? and i mean, every night here we search for answers about gun violence, and if only there were some mythical american city that had figured out how to bring down gun violence. well, it turns out there is and it's not a myth. it's real omaha, nebraska has cut gun violence in half over the past 15 years. so joining me now is omaha police chief todd murder and willie barney, the founder and president of the empowerment network. gentlemen. thank you so much for joining the conversation, chief. how did you do it? i'll tell you what. it's uh it's been a long haul for us.

we're happy with our numbers really, and just a high level view. we plugged in with the community, the community, the police department. we have the same goals. we have the same mission. and we do the same three things, enforcement intervention and prevention when we're working one of those three areas the community knows about it. and it's really a teamwork effect. and this has been great for omaha. aw so let me just share some numbers with folks, so they know the scale of what we're talking about in 2009, omaha ahead. 246 victims of gun violence last year that number was cut in half to 120 in 2008. you had 44 homicides. last year, that number was down to 29, the lowest it's bounced around in the past. you know, few years, the lowest was in 2018, and it was 22 so i know that also you talked about the empowerment network. tell us what that is willie and how other cities could even use that. yes thank you. it's a comprehensive collaborative approach, bringing community sectors together and

working in an aligned way to develop strategies. first of all, identified issues that develop strategies that can be implemented, so that's from the police department neighborhoods , community based groups, faith community schools, all of them identifying what their strengths are, and then aligning that work on a consistent basis of the empowerment network also works on root causes. we know that violence is a symptom. and so we need to go upstream and address employment, housing, education development, housing development revitalization, so the apartment network is a tool and a facilitator of that type of process, chief. i mean, what i hear willie and you saying is that it's multipronged. so you have to deal with education, employment as well. he just said housing and violence protection. obviously, omaha's not as big as new york city or philadelphia or other places can that be used in bigger cities? so i feel it can. i mean omaha's a half a million population and when you when you see are trend lines go down. i do think this program that we

have and working with 3 60 is replicate herbal it's definitely a midsize cities and major cities all across the country, and i think as you piece by piece through each of the bureaus, it can be replicated by chicago, new york city, los angeles. um chief, we were just talking about these shootings for the past three nights we've reported on the shootings of young people. teenagers you know young americans who made an innocent mistake of ringing the wrong doorbell or pulling into the wrong driveway. what do you think is at the root of that? you know something? i'm looking at pretty closely because we've had a really bad run here. you know our our neighbor major city, kansas city had have similar incident occur recently. here, so it's concerning to me. and i heard one of your panelists earlier. break it down into three areas. you have your mass shooters you have you're running your general gun violence and you have this new phenomenon and this new

phenomenon. it's something's going on. it's either. um it's either great media blitz and how quickly things surface or we have a perception issue going on in this country. that we definitely need to get a hold of willie. i was understanding. i was doing a little bit of research on what has happened in omaha. and i understand that every wednesday you all hold a public forum with the community . how can the community help? i mean, what do you task the community members with doing to bring down gun violence. and that's really been the secret of that. each individual. each organization identifies what their strengths are. so yes, we meet every single wednesday from 2 to 3. it's a very strategic meeting, but it's also tactical . what's happened the last seven days? what are the things that can be any type of retaliation? any type of issue that might surface that we can respond to, but also looking forward to the next seven days? what's coming up? football game, something going on in the neighborhood, working with the police department that do want to emphasize that we've identified specifically what each

organization what each individual from the grassroots gang intervention person to the neighborhood to the church. community based agencies help what role they can play and then making sure that we're aligned and continue to move forward on that that's been the strength of omaha 3 60 the partnership with the police department. gentlemen thank you. it's really heartening to know that it can work somewhere, and i hope that other cities are reaching out to you for what the secret sauce is and how they can implement it here. really appreciate talking to you tonight. thank you. thank you. thank you. okay so what i hear them, saying jessica is that they are proactive in that community meeting. they look forward to the next 7 to 10 days ago. okay what's coming up? what do we need to have our eyes on? that's interesting, and then what they were saying is they look at education, employment, housing and violence prevention because they know it all has to work in tandem. but i am i am skeptical that it can be scaled up. to the level of new york or philadelphia. just because it sounds like they are able to get their arms around it, and in a

really great way there, i think what you have to think about is individual communities within new york city. i tell people calling new york city one city almost feels slightly unfair. it is massive from a much i'm from d. c, which is much smaller. you know you can walk across it here. that's not happening, but you could potentially look at this within communities and what i really love about. this is it's engaging communities as opposed to feeling like police are occupying force with it. i think a lot of communities the united states do feel they are now working together as letting the community have agency and creating safety. and the thing is, it's worked. which is the really incredible part. what did you think about what you heard? um i don't think they've reinvented the wheel. i think they've invented a good wheel. you know, we reduced crime by 80% in new york. we brought shootings down from 5800. you know, over a period of time, and now it's hovering around 1000 again, but that's a dramatic decrease. when we saw the spike in shootings that occurred in 2020 in many cities with the nypd did was infused a lot of

cops into the neighborhoods where the shootings were spiking , but they also infused a lot of programs. summer jobs, rebuilding broken basketball, courts and recreation areas, getting people into indoor events trying to provide alternatives for young people because it was kids shooting at kids to be other places to do other things and to be engaged. and that had a good effect. but it can't be a momentary thing. um we tend to lurch from crisis to crisis and then let that ab we need to keep building on that and that's important. we have to go because you're at the white house. i just want to know what resonated with you. and if you think that nationally, we can tackle some of this, i think this is a really smart approach to deal with gun violence, generally, especially going back to like youth, too, may fall into the wrong circles and giving them alternatives and making them feel like they're built into the communities and don't need to fear the police. the police are working alongside them. not sure this answers the press the question. we're trying to figure out about these random shootings. that's something i

think we have to look at further agreed. ok l z. i'll get you next time. um, next, you're up next. remember how florida would not allow any teaching on gender or sexuality from kindergarten through third grade? okay, well, they've just extended that ban through 12th grade. what will that mean? for families and students? we discussed with my panel and lz next. i would like to move it. moveve it. you're le the we're reinventing our network. moving moment. moment. come on. fast reliable, perfectly orchestrated. the united states postal service. like to speak to customers to speak to customer service representativei'm sorry i didn get that tentative. try again. i'm sorry. funny come

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students in florida schools in grades kindergarten through 12 can no longer be taught about sexual orientation and gender identity. the so called don't say gay law was originally just for students from pre k to third. but now it's been extended through high school after a vote today from florida's state education board . the rule does make an exception for health and reproductive courses. teachers who violate the new state policy could be suspended or have their teaching licenses revoked. i'm back with my panel l z as promised. i'm coming to you. first of all. when do you get instruction on sexuality outside of your sex ed class in high school? first of all, i mean, it's only insects, ed class, so i'm not sure what problem this is solving. first of all, however, i do think that what we've heard from teachers and parents alike is that it's so vague. it has a chilling effect on teachers, and they no longer know what questions they can answer, and that's the design. right to keep it vague so that you can scare people into not talking about it. this isn't necessarily about persecuting

queer people. this is about signing seniors, making people afraid to talk about us making people afraid to teach about our history. you know, governor desantis when he first got into office actually visited post after the shooting and talked about how he was going to be there for the queer community and check the timeline as soon as president trump became vulnerable. the centers switched and he got very anti queer because he knew this was an avenue that could help raise my profile nationally. i'm not making this up on the man. he went to post the quotes are all there in the newspaper and when donald trump got in trouble, and it started with the investigation with the first impeachment, you started noticing a shift not only in his rhetoric but also in the policies that he was pushing. not only when it came to critical, uh c r t or the 16 19 project, but particularly when it came to queer people. he went afterwards and he's going after our kids, which is even a greater sign that he's nothing more than a bully, just like the

predecessor in the white house, so i have a frustration and i would just i would say to my party, the republican party i think that some of our elected officials are misreading the cultural moment right now by leaning so heavily into anti lgbtq policies. eight and 10. americans believe in more protections to protect the lgbtq community from discrimination. 67% of republicans support more support to prevent discrimination. so this very, very heavy anti l b l g b t q sort of rhetoric but also policies that you're seeing, i think is completely misreading the moment i'd also note gen. z and millennials will be the biggest voting block in the next election. in 2024, you lose my generation on down we are the generation of marriage equality. we're not going backward, whether you're right left or center. i am. i think you are spot on on the shift with desantis because he did not start as a culture warrior on these issues. this is why i implore him and my friends on his campaign. do some national interviews. come sit down on cnn and explain why you think this is good policy because it leaves so many open questions about how

you've been talked about basic things like what your family unit looks like in the classroom. us to you and your generation. i'm so confused by this because are you allowed to go to your guidance counselor? can you go to your guidance counselor? if you have any issue with sex or sexuality or gender. i don't know anymore. that's what makes it so incredibly unclear and so terrifying. i mean, for teachers who you know, just existing and your gender identity. existing is a queer person. now all of a sudden, it's unclear if you can talk about that. if you could be go be arrested under this law, you know what could happen to you? i think that's terrifying. i feel really bad for these being arrested. talking about being suspended. suspended your job. thank you for clarifying that. no no, no. sorry for me at this point. not being suspended from your job, and that's terrifying . i mean, these are people who are relying on these paychecks and then you also think about the kids. i mean, if the these are children, who it is already difficult enough to grow up as a queer child in the united states and do not know of there are adults you can talk to not know

if there are other queer adults that you could come to and then to have it. you know, no one could be open about this with you, and that's what's really scary. it's going to hurt these teachers, but it's really going to hurt these kids when they have no one to look towards your interpretation, john i think if you look at the choice is between organized education in an academic setting, which you know they have now extended to grade 12 as a ban versus what i mean. i was a kid before high school and during high school, you know, to get your education on sex, education, gender, everything else from what your friends know and think. where are you going to get a more balanced or accurate picture? but i mean to circle back to our earlier section on guns. what's crazier, i mean, drag queens story hours going on in libraries across the country to introduce children to different gender identities. people say. well, that's going to frighten them. and there's pedophiles and you know this is frightening. so they then surround the library with a bunch of guys in military

fatigues with a r 15, which is frightening children. um you know, again, we've gone from rational to completely irrational. yeah i would say that the storytime isn't just to introduce kids to different representations on the way to present yourself. it's also just to entertain them to read a book dragons entertaining dragons fun and it always has been, so i don't think it's about trying to introduce or teach kids that you can be anything you want to be sure that's a byproduct. but drag queens are funny. at the end of the day, the parent has the right to bring their child to choose not to. it doesn't need to be regulated by the state. yes also in this new new florida law by some militia that's correct. yes and one more thing that i didn't add. is that in this new florida law by the florida state board of education, the parents can opt out of sex, ed. so the one place where you're being wrong? yes, you know, facts. um about health and sex, said your parents can

sign you out of so to john's point. i don't know if your friends are the best teachers for all of this from mine. yeah i learned everything i know from saturday night fever and greece thank you very much friends. all right, so how far should the government go in accommodating religious beliefs of employees? one postal service worker is putting that to the test by asking not to work on sundays. now his case is headed to the supreme court would take that up next. tomorrow h history in the making beginning today, we're bringing you the news. disturbing new details. new way of questions. still the stories of the center of your day coming in right here central tomorrow at nine. easrn sunday night. we're trying something a littl different story. our world's best journalists dig deeper into the stories they can't ignore. the whole story with anderson

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melanie's nana in washington, and this is cnn. the supreme court has temporarily extended access to that abortion drug until midnight on friday. after that a lower court ruling could impose serious restrictions on access to that abortion drug crestone. we'll discuss that with our reporters in the next hour, but there's another important case in front of the supreme court right now, the justices hearing oral arguments in a religious freedom case involving a former mail carrier who says the u. s postal service denied his request to not work on sundays and observe vince of his evangelical christian faith.

my panel is back along with cnn legal analyst elie honig were all fascinated by this because none of us want to work on sundays and do that. and you do so ken. any employer forced you to work on a sunday so justice jackson, who is our newest justice has been sort of quiet because usually the most junior justice knows their place and stays quiet. she said it best with two words during the oral argument yesterday. it depends not very helpful. it may seem, but she nailed it because so much of the law is just you have to take a reasonable approach to all the factors and this is an age old tension in the law. on the one hand, we respect the free exercise of religion, but the tension is we don't want to place an undue burden on our government. and so the legal test that has developed over the years is what we call a de minimus standard meeting. if a person's religion can be accommodated without cost or inconvenience without substantial cost or inconvenience. then it's okay. a classic example. if someone needs to wear a head covering

and it doesn't interfere with the job that generally will be tolerated. now, this is a step or two upset. they said that they did try to accommodate his request, and here's what they did. they offered to adjust his schedule so he could work after any religious services on a sunday told him he should ask others to pick up his shift. he could do that. at some point, the postmaster was doing deliveries in lieu of him, but didn't want to do that forever. and then finally, they suggested he choose a different day to observe the sabbath, which doesn't sound that was bizarre. observe it on tuesday. does that even work? um this is why the lower court ruled against the postal carrier, they said the government went above and beyond for you here again. it depends. you have to look at all the facts. those all matter. interesting. okay, jessica, your thoughts yeah, i mean this look, i would also love to have sunday work be banned. i'm not gonna lie about that. i mean, it does seem like this was a huge burden on the postal service. i don't know where the court is going to come down on this and we definitely have a pro business side of the court and we have of the conservative side of the

court, and we have a more kind of religious side of the conservative court. and so it is going to be tricky to see kind of where they come down on this, particularly the majority, the majority conservative sizing, so you're seeing the tension between the conservatives would agree with jessica. i think that's the interesting part. art is that for? i think a conservative position would be. we cannot be mandating to business that they have to give this man time off. i mean, it is fundamental sunday delivery to their operations. on the flip side. it's religious liberty arguments, so there is some tension there. i do worry about the precedent, though. if they come down on the side of this individual, of course, you know saturdays for the jewish community sundays for many of the christian catholic faith. that could put a really undue burden on employers to just suddenly give those days up and say that you have to be able to give people that time off, so i'll be very curious to see where the court comes down. i wonder if it's some kind of a nuanced. it depends. kind of answer that i didn't even know that you could get mail on sundays number one because it's all amazon's yeah, forcing them to know them. they're delivering on behalf of amazon. yeah, i'll see. listen i want the supreme

court to take this up. you know, we were joking about it. you know, off there. it's like, if you want to burn it down with your silliness, then go ahead. let's take it to the next level and suggested americans silliness to me is pretending as if you can be this republic that is separate from religion while seeing all these rulings that you ask yourself, would this be a case if it weren't for religion, you know, like when it comes to like reproductive health, for instance, all the arguments is as far as i can tell. stemming from a religious perspective and even the argument with the medications they're trying to say. well is it really safe? well all the documents all those research says it is where you really bringing this case up. so if you want to have this conversation, go ahead because there are tons of religions besides just christianity besides judaism, besides hinduism, like wickers, probably have a whole list of days they can show up and say it's the solstice. sorry can't work this month. that's where it becomes a bit of a slippery slope, though, is i do think

what so what? faith traditions do we have to recognize all high holy holidays, it becomes something where you could have employers asking for quite a bit of time off and saying that they have a right under this process. we all revere the constitution and but but we're also allowed to criticize it in the first amendment. you know the first one you learn, it tells us at the same time. we have free the right to free exercise of religion, but also we don't establish religion and that leads to situations like this and again. justice jackson gave us the answer. which is it depends. but what do you think about the tension between the conservatives? what did you hear? that was really interesting, because i don't think this is going to be your straight 6 to 3 ruling like we saw in the ruling where they allowed a football coach to prey on the field after game straight. six conservatives three liberals, it looked to me like gorsuch and kavanaugh. in particular. we're looking for some sort of middle ground. what they may do is raise that bar. remember, we talked about de minimus. they can raise it a little bit. there's various ways you can say substantial burden or something like that looks to me like they're trying to find a middle ground for once. that's interesting. so in this case, they were saying that it's more

than a day minimus burden because he was asking other people to work. they were transferring moving schedules again. compare it to let's say a police officer who wants to wear a turban. okay doesn't interfere with the job. no cost doesn't impose costs on others. that generally, i took a little while. but now that should be allowed. okay. thank you very much. really helpful. okay be sure to tune in at the top of the hour. some of our top reporters will join me to talk about the big suburb stories talking about the big stories that they're covering. we're going to hear also from fox news viewers how they feel about that defamation lawsuit with dominion and when they found out about it. i just wasn't aware that dominion had filed it. essentially a defamation suit against fox. so um, when your producer had reached out and said, hey, this this is going on and this is what we'd like you to come on and discuss. um you know, i guess i just sort of looked at and thought. well, i

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one. right sorry. i missed alan. um alright. should we let little kids win? or is it a good idea to let them lose? a new opinion piece in the wall street journal is titled why i let my four year old granddaughter lose. she needs a taste of defeat as well as victory to learn how to compete in life. the author bob brody rights granted, losing hurts. i've never quite recovered from getting cut in tryouts for my eighth grade basketball team. but losing is also instructive and fortifying . losing motivates you to bring out your best. lucia's should understand that nobody deserves an award simply for showing up and that nothing makes you want to win more than losing failed

over and over again in my life, michael jordan's says in a commercial and that is why i succeed. i'm back with my panel. okay mr tough love ellie hunting . do you think about your little kids when they were four would like to share one of my finest parenting moments with you all if i might so when my son was two or three, so even younger than four. he loved candy land, right? and i would always let him win. now you're probably wondering, how would you let someone win in candy land? you just draw cards, answers. i would just fix the deck. i would just slide the governor. you know, it's not hard when he's two or three and i would always let him win. and one day i was playing with him, and i got out ahead early and he was being a brat and he was sobbing and getting all worked up. and i sort of looked at my wife and she gave me a look like finish it. i beat him and when i pulled into the candy castle, he lost it tantrum rolling around crying, but you know what? it was a valuable lesson, and i dare say he's now 17, and he has turned out resilient and tough and a good kid. not sure any of

us can add to this. i think that says everything about parenting we ever need to know to say four seemed too young, but apparently it's not too young. yeah. for us , you know, the turning point was actually a pickup basketball game. we played actually, not too far from here. we're in brooklyn together with one of my good friends house and we were playing one on one and i beat him, but he came close to blocking my shot at this point. he's a little bit older, and you know, he's tall. he's athletic or whatever. and i shot and i missed my shot. he got the rebound and looked at me and i looked at him and he looked at me and i looked at him and we both knew like things are changing. things aren't the same . and i've never played basketball with ms. since then, you were never blocked my shot ever. that's awesome. that's got to be a wake up call. if you eventually lose to your child, i will not be ready for that. neither was that. that's why i've never played with. yes i mean, that sort of proves the point of things do eventually come around like your your son

wouldn't be a brat. a two year old brat forever even if you didn't wash him like a grape in that game. you know you're right . but they do have to learn the lesson. and look, i think sports are a big part of this. both of my kids are high school athletes and you have you know there's not too many areas now in life, the life of a current teenager where you get tough news where you take a tough beat, like you would in a sporting event. i mean, there's a lot of cushioning under these kids now and so, you know, obviously lucky. you don't have to dunk on your six year old or anything, but i do think you know they need to go through some some stress and some drama to be ready to be involved. yes, go ahead. just i'm going to say is i understand that you know you want to teach them about losing, but i think that kids do go through really hard things in this life. i think what i loved about you know, my own parents is that i always knew that life would get hard. but at home i was the greatest. i was the best. you know. no one loves me more than they did. no one would build me up more than they did. and i think it made me stronger.

so when the tough things did happen, i know i can pick up the phone and there was someone who's going to say that i was great. if someone said that i wasn't and i think that made it so i wasn't afraid to fail. i wasn't afraid to go out and do things because there was always going to be a soft spot to land sea. that's the other philosophy. beautiful. i love that. me too. we just did. the family is a foundation like a warm and cozy foundation because life is going to beat it out of you, but they're not separate, right? they don't have to be mutually exclusive. you can still be the place like we don't have participation medals in my house, like i raised him very early, like we don't do that. that's just not how we roll. either you finish where you earn the medal or we throw that trash away and i've thrown all my participation medals away and he's thrown on his away. but it's still a place where you can go and fail and be loved. but it's not a place you can go and be coddled and be told you're the greatest when you sucks. interesting you're going to throw away your honorary doctorate. when you're awarded it by harvard. i'm gonna be like peace. i didn't put in the work like when i put my will take

your honorary awards are like i have like a little wall with my awards. i worked my ass off for those means more. i don't want something next to it. that says, i showed up. what's that? well done. great you guys. thank you very much. i think we've solved all the parenting. yeah alright. meanwhile, vaccine skeptic robert f. kennedy jr is joining the race for the white house. he's running as a democrat without the support of many of his own family members, so we'll talk about his long shot bid next. aaron how are you? wow bomb with good enough. indeed of love, get our stand up, making any change that is calling, uh, beautiful. hands. to finally

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support from prominent members of his own famous democratic family. during his speech in boston, he described himself as a truth teller. my mission over the next 18 months of this campaign over my throughout my presidency. hoping to end the corrupt merger of state and corporate power that is threatening out. that thing out when posed a new kind of corporate feudalism in our country. and though he invoked his father and uncle kennedy was forced to acknowledge his estrangement from some members of his family over his incendiary rhetoric back with me now lz granderson and alyssa farah griffin, okay, let's see your thoughts. keep an eye on this. so there's a usa today suffolk poll that had him at 14% which i think is incredibly high . i think you hear the name kennedy and the average voter

push voter voting in this is not even sure which kennedy too associated with um, also something we keep an eye on this . steve bannon's been hyping him on his war room podcast as well as roger stone maneuver. i mean, he's trying to just disrupt and it's an effort to disrupt and to try to take votes away from from joe biden. and, of course, right now he's running as a democrat. but there's nothing to say that he wouldn't try to run as some kind of a third party. challenger in a potential, you know trump biden head to head not of serious person. but we do know there is an anti vax sentiment in this country. i'm sure that that will help get him some votes. but i yeah, it's concerning. i don't have a problem with anyone deciding they want to run for president, with the exception of the twice impeached ex president everyone else you know, i don't have a problem with. i do think, though, however this what this does do is sort of remind democrats if you will, that you know, president biden hasn't officially announced yet. and

while all things that i've seen in my own personal reporting, plus other reports from other reporters in d. c is that ball of purposes he's going to run, but there's is this vacuum here . and if you're someone who you know, not quite sure what to do with your political future, and you want to raise up your profile. why not run for president? debate or work really have a chance of being president? no of course not. but it kept his issues out there. the things that was concerned with it kept those conversations going because he was running for president. so if mr kennedy is really serious at the end tiebacks. er, this allows me platform running for president to continue to push those views worry that we're going to have candidates on both the right and the left who are running on such extreme platforms. i mean, he represents something that especially in a post pandemic era, i think is wildly dangerous . some of the things that he's a spouse and on the right we've seen some extreme positions being taken. i'm hoping we see both fields consolidate quickly , and i do think it's incumbent on the president to announce sooner rather than later you saying that you think that if joe biden announced that he is running for reelection, robert kennedy jr wouldn't get in no,

i'm just saying there's a vacuum right now. there's no movement in terms of 2024 in terms of a democrat, right? this is like the first time you heard someone running as a democrat for 2024, right. so this is like, oh, that's right. we do need to gear up for the primaries. we do need to do these things. and while i don't expect president biden to find himself being primary by established democrats, it is important to continue to have these conversations that are outside the spear of liberalism. in order to push agendas or policies forward for the real debates, right? because eventually, at some point, someone's gonna talk about covid . someone's gonna talk about vaccines and you got to have answers. and this is good batting practice is really interesting to hear what you say that name recognition gets you that far already. you have to imagine. i mean, just when i saw that pole that's got to be the fact that his last name's kennedy and that people are like which one is it? i'm not totally sure got the same name. joe kennedy, who great moderate former member in the house. i think there's an element of confusion there. he does have of a cult like following similar to

when marianne williamson where there are people who will kind of follow them. you know, regardless of the viability of the campaign, but to get him to that sort of a number seems surprisingly high to me. alyssa lz. thank you both. great to see you guys. all right, coming up. fox viewers tell us what they think about the network's big settlement with dominion. and if it's impacted their view of the network, some of our favorite reporters will be here momentarily to talk about the stories that they are working on for tomorrow. that's next. there's a new breed of hornrnets sweeping the nation. are you pickining this up? country by swarm. the all new dodge hornet. they need a loan back fast, and you need scotts turf builder pid grass grass two times faster industry the loan, given you a stronger lawns, freedom, a field a rapid grass. today it's

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have hi, everyone. thanks for tuning in to this hour where we bring you tomorrow's news tonight. we have our great lineup of reporters to share their scoops here with me tonight. we have sarah fisher, jessica dean omar jimenez and atlanta train. great to have all of you, but i want to start with what's next for fox in the wake of that $787 million settlement in the dominion defamation lawsuit. box has to write that big check, but it does not have to issue a correction on air for its viewers. but now the network faces another major lawsuit that could cost them even more smartmatic, which is another voting tech company, is seeking $2.7 billion in damages. so, sarah, you've been covering this for a long time. what's next? so fox put out a statement today that they expect us to be litigated in 2025, so there's still a lot of time long because legal processes take a long time . you have to go through a bunch of pretrial depositions. hearings. all that kind of stuff.