Skip to main content

tv   Anderson Cooper 360  CNN  April 19, 2023 9:00pm-10:00pm PDT

9:00 pm
happened. let it rain, randi. ah! being prepared for anything. whatever comes your way. there's a pro for that probe like it never even happened. tomorrow history in the making beginning today, bringing you the news, disturbing new details. new way of questions as a business owner, your bottom line is always top of mind. so start saving by switching to the mobile service designed for small business: comcast business mobile. flexible data plans mean you can get unlimited data or pay by the gig. all on the most reliable 5g network,
9:01 pm
with no line activation fees or term contracts... saving you up to 75% a year. and it's only available to comcast business internet customers. so boost your bottom line by switching today. comcast business. powering possibilities™. muscles. absolutely free text f e t +2321321. the whole story with anderson cooper sunday at eight on cnn. closed captioning brought to you by flexible family of products will swift here this is flex superglue get flex superglue and the entire flexible family of products at flex seal products .com. good
9:02 pm
evening. the shockwaves sent by the decision of the fox corporation to settle defamation lawsuit brought by dominion voting systems continue today. fox will pay dominion a record $787.5 million, while fox news was largely silent on the massive payout. senate majority leader chuck schumer was not rupert murdoch's legacy is forever sealed as the network that sought to undermine american democracy. one prime time segment. at a time and dominion isn't done either they have pending lawsuits against the right wing networks and newsmax as well as against allies of the former president rudy giuliani, mike lindell and sidney powell. in a moment, we're going to talk to former fox anchor gretchen carlson in her first interview since the settlement, but before we do, it is worth noting that fox is legal jeopardy is far from over the voting technology companies. smartmatic is suing the network for $2.7 billion for they say were over 100 false and misleading on your statement. it's about them. fox also faces
9:03 pm
the very real possibility of lawsuits from shareholders, which will explain more about in a moment prefers former fox anchor gretchen carlson, who reached a $20 million settlement with fox's parent company after alleging sexual harassment and retaliation. thank you so much for being with us. thanks for having me on you surprised by the settlement. no i was surprised that it went on as long as it did went up to up to date of the trial. i'm not a lawyer. i did take the l sets, but i feel like i'm sort of a half lawyer after everything i've been through and the one thing you learn is that you should never put your ceo s or c suite executives under deposition, unless you're pretty sure that you have a solid case, so i was really surprised that they allowed all of that information and mis truths to be able to go public. why do you think they ultimately settled? because i think that they saw the writing on the wall. the judge had several rulings during hearings that were not in their favor, and it could have also been the makeup of the jury.
9:04 pm
remember the jury was seated, and maybe they didn't like what they saw. um and also i think that they obviously did not want their top hosts to be coming and be media fodder for five or six weeks under oath. that idea of day after day, seeing a tucker carlson or sean hannity or whomever traipsing onto the witness stand exactly and you know, it would be an interesting place. i'm sure media coverage would have been massive. and i'm sure all media outlets would have liked to have seen that. but but you know, that would have been one of the first times that those particular hosts would have to be under oath and actually telling the truth. there will be disappointed that there wasn't an apology. from fox. at first i was and i think i tweeted out on monday night. i saw your truth. you said please , dominion. do not settle with fox. you're about to prove something very big. why did you hope that they weren't that dominion wasn't going to say somebody who's also had a very high profile lawsuit against the former ceo and chairman of fox news, roger ailes as somebody
9:05 pm
who has been silenced as a result of that, with being able to tell all the facts of what actually happened to me. you know, i was vicariously living through dominion and hoping that they would be able to get to the truth of people were, you know a lot of observers who are not fans of fox were wanting that, um and yeah, dominion is a corporation. they have shareholders. they have a parent company from a financial sense. that certainly makes sense. it's totally different than my case. you know, i actually did get an apology. and that is something that i hold close to my heart every single day that i think about it because so many survivors were living through me . when i got that apology, it's a validation. um it's holding people accountable and it rarely happens. and so for me, that was the most important thing that happened. in my case. i think in this case i don't think it really would have mattered to the people that were trying to reach to change their hearts and minds who are loyal viewers of fox who believe what tucker carlson who believe in yourself
9:06 pm
, even if they had to go on set and give a 22nd apology. in the era that we live in now a fake news and believing only what you want to believe. i would assume that the majority of those viewers wouldn't believe the apology anyway. do you think there will be any repercussions for? i mean, look, there's not gonna be a repercussion for sean hannity. tucker carlson. they have very big ratings. fox news is gonna be behind them. but for you know, the more low hanging fruit of lou dobbs and rita bartiromo jobs already met his fate. he was he was let go, viewer, so you're right. yes. well i'm not either anymore realized. yes i have. i have absolutely no idea. i mean, one might expect it. but then hmm. why did they allow it to go this far to begin with? does i mean i don't want to get you into the middle of something, but the maria bartiromo her behavior during all of this what she said on air her hosting of sidney powell. it is really i mean it
9:07 pm
just journalistically. it's shameful. um did that surprise you? i mean, she i don't know her personally, i don't. i was on jeopardy with her once and my gosh, she did not do well, but has she? was she always like that? not that i recall, but i cannot comment on the people that i worked with. unfortunately because of my nondisclosure agreement, but as far as being surprised about it, you know, look, i think that some of the fox hosts are a microcosm of what we're seeing in the macrocosm of viewers, which is we watched news now in silos, and we only watch what we want to hear. and quite honestly , i believe that that can rub off on the host as well. um do you foresee any changes that this will making anybody for anybody? i don't think that this will change the way fox does news. and. therefore i don't think it will change the way
9:08 pm
viewers view them. um i know that what i've done in my life in the last 6.5 years that my case against fox was incredibly meaningful and i've taken full advantage of that to make my life passion meaningful now in the work that i'm doing to make workplaces safer. um and so that's what i try to focus on now is the positive and waking up every day and knowing that i'm passing bipartisan legislation, not once but twice last year, um your organization is lift our voices. and you know, i had an arbitration clause in my employment contract , which, if my lawyers had not been able to strategically come up with the idea of suing roger ailes personally, my case would have never been public and i would have been forced into the secret chamber of arbitration where decades of cases like these have been going, it's a vicious cycle of silence, so the mere fact that i was able to make my case public was huge, because how did i know that i was going to be instrumental in igniting an international
9:09 pm
movement have now taken that responsibility to make sure that millions of other americans never have to be silenced again. so last march, 3rd. i was proud to stand with the president and a bipartisan coalition of lawmakers when he signed the ending forced arbitration of sexual assault and sexual harassment act, meaning that you don't have to go to the secret chamber of arbitration anymore. and eight months later, we were instrumental in getting the speak out act signed, which means that you can no longer forced people to sign pre dispute indus for sexual misconduct when you saw some of those documents that through discovery dominion god in which what folks were saying on air and what they were saying privately and text messages to each other. did that. uh the difference between what was being said and what they were actually believing tucker carlson, saying he hated donald trump and clearly not saying that on air did that surprise, you know? look i think that even
9:10 pm
rupert murdoch said that it was all about making sure that they were in the green and keeping things you know, making money for them? look i think it's a travesty. because i think it's actually a threat to american democracy to promote that kind of misinformation. let me be clear. there is a huge difference between espousing conservative viewpoints and having an intellectual conversation between conservatives and liberals, which i think is very important. there's a huge difference between that. and telling lies to the american public, and that's where we have now become in the evolution of fox news, at least with regard to the 2020 election in january, 6th do you think with his next election? do you think we're going to hear those same same lies told again. oh, gosh of depends on who the candidate is, i think but i have
9:11 pm
i have no way of predicting that. um but i would love to be able to reach out to all of those fox news viewers and hope that somehow we could get them back into the reality of what's really going on, but i think we're so far gone in this fake news era that i'm not necessarily hopeful about that. gretchen carlson. it's great to have you on again. thank you for having me on appreciate it. as we mentioned, fox faces an even bigger financial hurdle ahead of $2.7 billion lawsuit from a different voting technology companies. smartmatic randi kaye has that story tonight. we know that $400 million of money came into smartmatic from china. fox news just days after the 2020 election, spreading false claims about smartmatic voting technology company used on election day. many of the networks hosts and guests, including trump's former lawyers, sidney powell and rudy giuliani, offering up outlandish allegations smartmatic. which is a company that was founded in 2005 in venezuela. for the
9:12 pm
specific purpose of fixing elections. well, that's the company that was counting and calculating on election night and they did all their old tricks. they stopped it. they also switched votes around. we know that one of the smartmatic people has, um, went to tarrant county, texas, and turned that county blue and all of a sudden this one election, tarrant county is purportedly blue. we have evidence of how they flip the votes, how it was designed to flip the votes by february, 2021 after demanding fox retracted statements, smartmatic had had enough. the company filed a $2.7 billion lawsuit against the fox corporation host lou dobbs, maria bartiromo and janine piro were also named in the suit. along with giuliani and powell. powell has since been dismissed from the case. in the nearly 300 page complaint. smartmatic alleges fox news
9:13 pm
knowingly made over 100 false and misleading statements about the company with the assistance of smartmatic software. a backdoor is capable of flipping votes in the lawsuit. smart, maddox says fox had an obvious problem with their story. they needed a villain. they needed someone to blame without any true villain. defendants invented one and made smartmatic the villain in their story. there is much to understand about smartmatic. smartmatic noted in the suit that fox's story was a lie. but it was a story that sold. the lawsuit alleges fox pushed the bogus claims so it wouldn't lose viewers to newer right wing media outlets like newsmax and one american news. fox denies any wrongdoing. in fact, after smartmatic filed his lawsuit, the network said, we are proud of our 2020 election coverage and will vigorously defend this meritless lawsuit in court. yet just one day after smartmatic filed its lawsuit, this
9:14 pm
president is looking at the prospect of having this election. stolen from the network suddenly dropped fox host lou dobbs without publicly making any connection between his firing and smart maddox lawsuit, but the damage in smartmatic size was already done despite the fact no evidence has emerged that smartmatic flipped or rigged votes. we have so much evidence. i feel like it's coming in through a fire hose. how will you prove this sydney? well i've got lots of ways to prove it, maria, but i'm not going to tell on national tv. what are we have? randi kaye, cnn. more now on fox's legal problems. i'm joined by jeffrey sonnenfeld, senior associate dean for leadership studies at yale university school of management. appreciate you joining us. you wrote a piece for time magazine. you say this settlement is just the beginning of fox and rupert murdoch's nightmare. why it's the continual first of all. of course, they are now forever
9:15 pm
hyphenated with the highest malice case, uh, award in history and world history. how much it was, it was huge. it would be indefensible to support this level of damages. if this had gone through the court system, the appeals court would have knocked it down. this is 10 times the value of the company eight times what their revenues were. from a financial standpoint, dominion was smart to settle because you think the appeals court would have actually knocked it down, if by chance of jury would have awarded this and we don't know they would have. it never would have survived appeal, and they get it now. so for fox if they knew that for them the value of not having the information come out at trial, not having their anchors having to testify under oath that was worth the price. it's worth the price that they just basically didn't want. rupert murdoch, the patriarch who basically has created his own fox and steen monster here, showing that he's out of control this 92 year old, somewhat confused, self incriminating, rambling testimony that he's already put in the court records
9:16 pm
is very damaging. they didn't want rupert murdoch back on the stand. he was the first witness and the anchors but also these boards. members who have basically acknowledged negligence. so you're you're the first person on this program. uh, who informed me about the looming threat from the shareholders. now what explained that we were ahead of the world thanks to you asking the question. we're here about a month ago. and you're exactly right is there's a duty of care a duty of loyalty for directors to perform their duties diligently and we have seen they have fallen down on it. very sophisticated board members, not just lachlan as ceo, rupert son and rupert murdoch himself, but paul ryan, former speaker of the house of you have people, such as the former ceo of ford motor company of major law firm ceo. oh is in their guy named bill burke of quinn emanuel, the managing partner. they can't plead ignorance, and they have admitted that they should have done more via did in their general counsel. their ceo is admitted. well, we knew this stuff was false. and as a matter
9:17 pm
of fact, the judge has said, as legal fact that that what fox claimed on air about election fraud was false, he said. it's crystal clear. it's false. and fox can't appeal that because this is a no contest settlement , so they've accepted what the judge said. so that's very. and all those documents now help.
9:18 pm
9:19 pm
how to grow more vibrant flowers . step one. feed them with miracle gro, shake and feed. that's it. miracle gro o to grow. at a d p. we understand business today looks nothing like it did yesterday. while
9:20 pm
it's more unpredictable possibilities are endless from paying your people from anywhere to supporting your talent everywhere. we use data driven insights to design hr solutions and services to help businesses of all sides work smarter today so they can have more success. tomorrow. small club are smile direct club a liners, they can turn a smile like this into a smile like this, and as little as 4 to 6 months for less than $3 a day, choose smile get started for free direct club dot com. i have a surprise for you have a surprise for you. let's say that the same time 32. one cabin in vermont cancelation on most days. com booking done. it does. hmm host are there animals
9:21 pm
living underwater? the ocean warm? yeah it, um, can be very warm. you were made to remember some days forever. we were made to help you find the best way there. new projects means new project managers you need to hire. indeed indeed you do when you sponsor a job, you immediately get your shortlist of quality candidates whose resumes on indeed, match your job criteria. visit indeed .com slash higher and get started today. heart pounding design, intelligent technology performance. discover a new world of possibilities in the lexus rx never lose your edge. when moderate to severe ulcerative colitis keeps flaring in check with invoke a once
9:22 pm
daily pill when you see god unpredictable, i got rapid symptom relief, invoked and left bathroom. urgency behind check. you see god in my way, i got lasting steroid free remission with invoke check. my gastro saw damage invoke, helped visibly repair the colon lining check. rapid symptom relief, lasting steroid free remission and a chance to visibly repair the colon lining. check. check and check. invoke can lower your ability to fight infections, including tv, serious infections and blood clots, some fatal cancers, including lymphoma and skin, cancer, death, heart attack, stroke and tears in the stomach or intestines occurred people 50 and older with at least one heart disease. risk factor have higher risks don't take if allergic to focus. serious reactions can occur. tell your doctor if you are or may become pregnant. put you see in check and keep it there with rainbow gastro about invoke and learn how abbvie could help you save. hey hey, get away! 10 years ago, i invented the ring video doorbell for moments like
9:23 pm
that and ring security cameras for moments like this video. protect your home away. i do learn more at ring .com. new deadline has been set for supreme court decision on the most significant abortion related case to reach the justices since the overturning of roe v. wade justice samuel alito extended his whole today on that federal appeals court ruling that would impose restrictions on access to a widely prescribed abortion drug christo. the new deadline is friday by midnight. that's what he said the started now one of federal district judge in texas revoked the fda approval of mifid per stone. which has been used by by millions of women for more than 20 years. the fifth circuit court of appeals. it stayed part of that judge's ruling, but said that some restrictions could go into effect, including curtailing access to the drug by mail and shortening the pregnancy timeframe in which the drug could be taken. justice alito state, but all of that, as i said on hold until midnight friday, joining us long time, observed the supreme court, npr legal affairs correspondent nina totenberg, you know, so what do
9:24 pm
you make of the court moving the deadline by two more days? because when we spoke last week, he told me the court is running unusually behind schedule this term and that as far as you can tell the justice are not getting along particularly well, which is fascinating. well i think if they had been of one mind about how to handle this, in all likelihood, we would have gotten some sort of an order from the court today, but of course they've they've been hearing cases all week or oral arguments all week, and they have a conference a regular conference scheduled for tomorrow. so i would assume they'll try to hammer it out, and it will get some sort of word either late tomorrow or sometime on friday. um you know, there are still the same options. um and the most likely one i think is that they'll let the fifth circuit go ahead and formally have expedited oral argument and issue a decision. because
9:25 pm
everything the court did until now is preliminary. i mean, it may feel like it's permanent because it curtailed most of what the fda has allowed in the last seven years or so in terms of access, and it also curtailed the period of time in which women can have abortions using kristen and that's so that's seven weeks instead of 10 weeks , which is what the fda has approved. um so, but it's still a preliminary decision. so there it once there is a final decision from the fifth circuit , then inevitably, i think, because i don't think this 55th circuit is going to change its mind a lot. um inevitably, the biden administration and behalf of the fda and the companies that make the branded generic medford medford freestone that's used across the country. they
9:26 pm
have a pending, you know, they'll go back to the supreme court and say here are case now and it could well be that the court will do that. or maybe it'll just leave in place what the fifth circuit does. that's always possible if that scenario takes place where the court now says, okay, fifth circuit go ahead, have the hearings. make your ruling. um and then the biden administration. goes to the supreme court about that ruling. would they put a stay on the on the ruling in before before they ability they would. if they're going to hear it, they'll put a stay on it. and the real question is, will they hear it? and where are they headed on this? because this case involves more than believe it or not abortion. it involves the whole regulatory structure of the food and drug administration. and as far as
9:27 pm
i've been able to ascertain there's no court has ever before . um overruled the expert judgment of the fda as to whether a drug should be widely available, and when and that so that would be a very big deal. i spoke with dr jane henny, who was the fda commissioner. when this drug was approved. she expressed concern that the court ruling, if left to stand, could potentially imperil the fda approval process writ large. would that be something that the supreme court would likely take into consideration? well i would . i would presume it would think about that. and interestingly you know, um in 2020 justice alito, who is after all, the author of the supreme court's decision overturning roe in one of the pandemic cases that came up to the court, where where abortion rights groups were actually seeking to have easier access. he said. i and more in a
9:28 pm
single judge in maryland had said yes, you can have increased access and justice leader wrote that it was, uh beyond beyond his understanding how any federal judge could think that he could supersede his expert judgment for the f d a s interesting. we shall see nina totenberg. fascinating i really appreciate it. thank you. thank you still had have you ever accidentally opened the door of someone else's car thinking it was your own. i certainly have in now. in texas, two cheerleaders were shot after one of them did just that details ahead. there. and how are you? uh, wow. you need of love. dreams ghetto stand up, making a change that is calling beautiful.
9:29 pm
don't worry. professionals customize and install systems. do you think featuring google nest products for any kind of home? so you have no worries brought to you by a d t found it the feeling of finding the psoriasis treatment she's been looking for two is the first of its kind once daily pill from moderate to severe plaque psoriasis for the chance at clear or almost clear skin. it's like the feeling of finding that outfit psoriasis tried to hide from you or finding your swimsuit is ready for prime time. dad once daily, so tick, too, is proven to get more people clearer skin than the leading pill. don't take. if you're allergic to static, too serious reactions can occur. you can lower your ability to fight
9:30 pm
infections, including tv, serious infections, cancers, including lymphoma, muscle problems, and changes in certain labs have occurred. tell your doctor if you have an infection, liver or kidney problems, triglycerides or had a vaccine or plan to take two is a tick to inhibitor. tick, too, is part of the jack family. it's not known as a tick to has the same risks as jack inhibitors, find what plaques arrived. isis has been hiding. ask your dermatologist about sertic two for clearer skin so clearly you take two. i gotta feeling that can escape feeling good buddy. it's great because we invented making has it. mhm. good morning, everyone we do begin with breaking team m
9:31 pm
just about anywhere. expand your team with a fiber freelancer. i'm jeremy diamond at the white house. and this is cnn. closed captioning brought to you by flexible family of products fill
9:32 pm
swift here this is flex superglue gets like super glue and the entire flexible family of products at flex seal products .com. tonight. we're learning more about yet another shooting of someone who made a minor mistake and got shot because of it. last week, there was 16 year old ralph jara, who was shot in the head and arm after ringing the doorbell at the wrong address. the men have accused of shooting ural 84 year old andrew lester, shown there appeared in court today, where he pleaded not guilty and over the weekend 20 year old kaylan gillis was shot and killed after she and three others accidentally turned into the wrong driveway while looking for a friend's house in rural upstate new york. according to the washington county sheriff. there was no interaction between the shooter and anyone in the car before shots were fired. and just yesterday, two teenage cheerleaders were shot in a texas supermarket parking lot for what seems like another random accident. cnn's ed lavandera has that story. that's
9:33 pm
peyton washington, practicing her high flying acrobatics cheer routines three times a week. washington and three teammates of the woodlands elite cheer company carpool from austin to the houston area for team practices. that's what brought them to this grocery store parking lot in elgin, texas, just after midnight tuesday morning. one of the girls in the car, heather roth, emotionally recounted during a vigil at the cheer teams practice facility later tuesday how she opened the door to a car she thought was hers when she was shocked to see a man in the passenger seat. she got back in the car with her friends when the unthinkable happened. doing backing up. i see the guy get out of the passenger. door and i rolled my window down. um and i was trying to apologize. and then here i just halfway my window is down, just threw his hands up and then yeah. pulled out again. as soon as they saw the gun, they said,
9:34 pm
go and they drove and they went about two miles down the road, and that's when they realized that peyton was seriously hurt. here is the woodlands elite cheer company manager, she says. heather roth suffered a minor leg injury, but peyton washington was shot at least twice in the back and the leg. elgin texas, investigators say surveillance video at the grocery store help them identify the shooter as 25 year old pedro te'o rodriguez jr. peyton washington was rushed by helicopter to a hospital. her team manager says washington spleen was removed and she suffered damage to other internal organs, but she's breathing on her own again and face timing with family and friends, even lamenting that she will miss a major cheer competition this weekend. the realization of the fact that she's not going to be competing this weekend. it was starting to set in. i think so. she was extremely you know, up and down with her emotions. washington i wasn't elite generals. come tumbling down with us our world's best this saturday see their washington was born
9:35 pm
without one of her lungs. but despite that, her coaches say she's reached the top of her sport. she's committed to be a member of baylor university's acrobatics and tumbling team next year. but for now, four teenagers will have to live with over this. they're they're gonna have fears that they never thought about in their life that now they're going to think about all the time which is unfortunate. and ed lavandera joins us now. what do we know tonight about the shooter? while the suspect has been held in jail, he's held on a $500,000 bond. he's been charged with one count of deadly conduct. a search warrant affidavit affidavit also revealed that he was arrested several hours after the shooting found at his apartment asleep and also other court documents revealed today. anderson that he was previously known to law enforcement there in the elgin area, but that's all the documents would say. we tried to asking belgian officials exactly what that
9:36 pm
meant or what the details of all of that are. but they refused to answer those questions today. anderson appreciate it more perspective now from criminal defense attorney mark o'mara has successfully defended then neighborhood watch captain george zimmerman and his second degree murder trial. for the deadly shooting of trayvon martin, the unarmed 17 year old was walking home from the convenience store in 2012 when he was killed. mark. do you believe any of these recent shootings in new york in texas and missouri are within the boundaries of reasonable self defense? well and that's just the thing. the only china you're about to use deadly force, and that's what was used in all three of these cases is if you are in reasonable fear of imminent great bodily injury, layman's terms it has to be something that could kill you, and it has to be right away right now. and when you look at any of these three cases, it's
9:37 pm
really concerning that any of the shooters could suggest that they were in reasonable fear of any injury, not to mention great bodily injury, which is the only standard by which you can use them before us. we hear a lot about stand your ground laws or the castle doctrine. those laws obviously vary by state. but can you just explain generally what they are and when they would apply and when they wouldn't sure we all have a right to defend ourselves against a threat. and if it's a wiffle ball bat, you can't use a gun. if it's a gun. you can use a gun. if it's a knife close to you, you can use in life that's traditional self defense and what they say it's castle. doctor means when you're at the front door of your house, you don't need to retreat back in. used to be you had to retreat. but then the castle doctrine said, it's your castle. it's your home. you can defend yourself at the doorstep. then stand your ground took that same protection of castle doctrine out to the street that says if you're on the street, not in
9:38 pm
your home if you're on the street, and you have a right to be there, you don't have to retreat. you don't have to make one move before defending yourself in the thought is the reason for standard round trip and passed in many states. is you might put yourself a greater risk by moving or by retreating so you don't have to. if you're allowed to be there that then is sort of been the progression of this self defense protection. we all have. but it's just gotten as though people think it's just means shoot and figure it out. later the prosecuting attorney, the missouri shooting of mr charles said that there was a quote racial component in the case. how to prosecutors. defense attorneys try to prove or disprove what was in the shooter's mind. very difficult, but let's face. the harsh reality is that now we are finally starting to talk about their implicit biases that exist in all of us, and when they exist in a educational occurrence, or whether you're going to get a mortgage alone,
9:39 pm
it doesn't cause death. but in the criminal justice system, we see it and it can cause death. so somebody asked me if there was a racial component. i quickly said yes, there is because there always is. does that mean the shooter is a racist? no unfortunately, even today, when you look at the marvin implicit bias study which all of your viewers should take. we know that people are biased against particularly young black males. it's just a harsh societal reality. so yes, i think it's something that is out there. prosecutors and defense attorneys have a very difficult time presenting it because it's still a taboo argument. but finally we started to talk about it. and in the missouri case, there was no i mean, other than this elderly man seeing this 16 year old at his front door behind, you know, on the other side of the door. there was no exchange. the teenager didn't even say anything to him before he was shot, reportedly. and
9:40 pm
that's just the thing. where do you get the reasonable fear of imminent great bodily injury from when he touches your door? you know, that's a fear that came from inside much more so than outside didn't come from the facts of the case. there was no weapon. there's no aggressive action. there was no cursing or yelling that came from inside that shooter's mind. and that's not the place where it's supposed to be. he's got to be able to prove to a jury that his thought process was reasonable under the existing circumstances and quite honestly, without prejudging any of these cases we try not to. that's gonna be a hard road to hoe for his defense chain, because any other action but shooting would have been much more appropriate. mark america. i appreciate it. thank you. meanwhile a positive update tonight on on 16 year old ralphie roku was shot in the head and arm after ringing the doorbell. in a new photo posted by the family spokesperson. you're also seen sitting up on a bench alongside his attorney, lee merritt, family spokesperson called him a walking miracle
9:41 pm
with ahead of steel and a programming note tonight on cnn prime time to lawmakers, democrat jamal bowman and republican byron donald's who engage in impromptu debate over guns and other topics on the steps of the capitol recently. we'll continue it with pamela brown at the top of the hour coming up on 3 60, a close call on the front lines in ukraine. autocracy knows nick paton walsh about how he and his team narrowly escaped a missile strike. can you hear me? now? can you hear me? why are there two extra seats? are we getting a dog? a great dane. two great danes. i know china. dana, whose giant beard maybe a dragon. no dragons are boring. twin sisters . and what is the robot in one of the night and i'll be on the side of octopus. volkswagen
9:42 pm
atlas more room for possibilities. wait have you surrounded your lawn back with scotts turf builder. terrific action gets three jobs done at once killed swedes prevents cab gas and keeps it growing strong bag of scots triple action today it's guaranteed loan feed it compared with other choose one verb ecto chew protects from fleas and ticks for 12 weeks. nearly three times longer used with caution and dogs with the history of seizures or neurological disorders. protection that lasts longer. bravo bravo, ecto bravo cardiologist when i put my patients on a statin to reduce cholesterol, i also tell them it can deplete their co q 10 levels. i recommend taking kunal co q 10-q and all has three times better absorption than regular co q. 10. kun all the brand i trust. the mosquitoes are just all over the backyard. quiet please. okay wow. they're good. okay got that one. what's
9:43 pm
going on? what a pro did get a pro in pro? i got you. mosquitoes don't call any pro call the organ pro with over 120 years of experience, nobody's better. orkin, the best in pests . thanks for wasting my time is the time for cleaner indoor air with an air duct cleaning from stanley steamer. you've noticed for carpet cleaning, but we've been cleaning air ducts for over 20 years. we do things the right way cleaning your entire system. so if you need an air duct cleaning, call 1 800 steamer today. the secret to success. better sleep purple is different. soft and firm and all your right places. cool while sleep scientifically proven thing sharper, happier. and overnight success. if you think overnight success. if you think you know mexico get
9:44 pm
♪♪ alex! mateo, hey how's business? great. you know that loan has really worked wonders. that's what u.s. bank is for. and you're growing in california? -yup, socal, norcal... -monterey? -all day. -a branch in ventura? that's for sure-ah. atms in fresno? fres-yes. encinitas? yes, indeed-us. anaheim? big time. more guacamole? i'm on a roll-ay. how about you? i'm just visiting. u.s. bank. ranked #1 in customer satisfaction with retail banking in california by j.d. power. and medicaid or new to medicare, insurance agent. call 1 807 50 4500 now i've been wiedemann in
9:45 pm
eastern ukraine. this is cnn. in ukraine today moscow that moscow battered the eastern part of the country with a fresh round of strikes, according to ukraine's military. russia launched 60 airstrikes around the besieged city of mahmoud and bombarded the southern city of odessa. officials say that russian troop losses inbox mood or several times higher than ukraine's. during the strike. cnn's nick paton walsh and his producer which just feet away from being hit by missile, we're told he and his team thankfully safe. he joins me now, nick, take us through what happened? today. we were not far from where i'm standing here in separate asia near where many anticipate a significant ukrainian counter offensive close to those already long established front lines where we saw the missile land very close to our vehicles. here's what happened today. close to ukraine's imminent counter offensive in the
9:46 pm
southeast, where russia has long been brutalizing. pain is commonplace and the damage often everywhere and indiscriminate. the quiet is a blessing that rarely lasts. were warned of a missile strike incoming and leave. we can feel the pressure wave blast just behind armored car right behind us. can you hear me? john our producer is in our second vehicle just past the smoke with driver igor muggeridge. and isn't answering that. can you hear me? the missile landed right between our cars. can you hear me? not can you hear me? 10 seconds. we have no idea if they are relying just said something. can you hear me? yes, i can hear you. that's them. are you guys okay? we're
9:47 pm
fine. just leave. drive out the way we left. we leave together. for so many. that choice of leaving is something imaginary. that happens above ground. the only power and water in town down here. life underground here has been hard for quite some time. but it will get harder when the counter offensive begins pushing certainly in this direction. if there is space for laughter. it's from this screechy slapstick soviet era comedy about a drunken goofball , briefly bending the thick set grimaces here. to very true. for them. right european. guardian
9:48 pm
angels seem here to flit by in a town where 50 died in the war and 200 were injured. safety is just a word here. and rubble is a place. nick it's i'm so glad you and your team are okay. um how. how are you doing? i mean, that's that's really unsettling. i mean, brief taste for us, frankly, what people in that town of or a capable, enduring for months with strategic air strikes that you saw the start of the piece? that kind of craters? they've been leaving our producer natalie good. john actually could see as we drove the missile land between our two vehicles there, in fact, miraculously placed distant enough from both the both sides were okay and you can hear in the report there that gap when i
9:49 pm
couldn't tell if the other vehicle was okay is frankly my fault for spending too long on the walkie talkie, making it impossible for them to respond, but we were very keen to find out if they were okay. so miraculous for us, but for so many in our heave a different story, anderson and talk about what is going on in that town and how it factors into a potential ukrainian offensive later this year. yeah i mean, it's located between theresia here key city further north and the coast to the south of where i'm standing. that's basically the land corridor between other parts of occupied ukraine and the russian mainland and the crimean peninsula, and many believe that land corridor is going to be the focus of ukraine's counter offensive imminent, possibly hours days away. we saw a slight taste in the areas around there that things may be beginning to move exceptionally hard to tell what's to be in the back and forth. of the past months continuing and what may be something new, certainly on the edges of or a heave. locals had
9:50 pm
heard small arms fire had heard explosions over the past 24 hours that maybe the continuation of previous tensions. it may also be something new. as part of this counter offensive. there are some signs broadly in this area of ukrainian build up, tells us say, what's real, but or o'keefe has been in the crosshairs of the russians. for some time, it seems they've been bombarding it quite hard to try and slow. any ukrainian push towards them that maybe continuing today as well, and the persistent bombardment leaves so few left in that town and the few that are left shelving underground, startling to see the destruction. anderson walsh appreciate it. thanks so much and our best to your team up next. harry antin joins us with some surprising news from netflix. asking the right question can greatly impact your future. are you qualified to do this? especially when it comes to your finances? are you a certified financial planner, cfp professional professionals are committed to acting in your best
9:51 pm
interest. that's why it's got to be a cft more vibrant flowers. step one. feed them with miracle gro. shake and feed. that's it. miracle gro o to grow. you're nadia. you remember what happened? i just woke up. to kill him. what. ah! my a one c was up here. now it's down with rebels is his a one c down with rebel since. my doctor
9:52 pm
told me rebels is lowered a one c better than a leading branded pill people taking rebels has lost more weight. i got to my a one seagull lost some weight to rebel sous isn't for people with type one diabetes don't take repulses if you or your family ever had medullary thyroid cancer or have multiple endocrine neo places syndrome, type two or if allergic to it, stop and get medical help right away if you get a lump or swelling in your neck, so if your stomach pain or an allergic reaction, serious side effects may include pancreatitis, gallbladder problems may occur. tell your provider about vision problems or changes taking. what else is with us. will funnel yuria or insulin increases low blood sugar risk side effects like nausea, vomiting and diarrhea may lead to dehydration. which may worsen kidney problems need to get your a one c down. you may pay as little as $10 per prescription.
9:53 pm
the vehicles are all electric feeling is all mercedes choice is all yours. good morning, everyone we do. begin with breaking news this morning to you and your team on the ground pressing for answers. it's really important. some things are better left to a professional site. probably shouldn't have tried to remove my own appendix like when it comes to finding financial advisors. what was i thinking? so leave it to smart asset to find them for you. take the free quiz at smart dot com. then you'll be matched with up to three vetted fiduciary financial advisors to get started. take the adviser match quiz now at smart asset .com was this close? it's close extra projects. we
9:54 pm
need promotional products. i'm on it for imprint takes the stress out of ordering promotional items get the high quality products you need at four imprint dot com print for certain was ready to sell her ring. she sent it to worthy where they took care of everything and auctioned it on her terms, then where they sent her money. i get what you're worth worthy .com. cnn news central tomorrow at nine eastern . get ready to say goodbye to those red envelopes. netflix has announced it will stop its dvd by mail service in september's united senior data reporter. harry antin joins us now. but frankly, the headline to me is that that service still existed was a little surprised that still exists to your notes existed over the last 25 years, they're sold or they sent out 5.2 plus billion this to different people, but i haven't used to be the way netflix and
9:55 pm
that's all what netflix was, was all netflix was right when it first began. i do have a question for you, though. two questions in and one number one. do you happen to know the first they sent out and the second question is. do you know what the most popular disk they sent that one? no. we have some clues for you. if you'd like to take a guess where some pictures. i can respond to pictures. okay can you see either of juice? that's that's correct. that was the first one involving football. yes the bright side. oh close the blinds blindside, right? yes. yes based on a book, wasn't it? it was based on a true story, actually. okay, yeah. okay so but here's the thing i think is so interesting to me when you know i sort of a big michael keen fan. you are like michael king, too, though i prefer him in batman. well okay, and i always good and just about everything that's true. i don't want to choose also, mystery people still use dvds or blu rays. so i think this is interesting, you know? just take a look over the last decade, this sort of switcheroo between streaming and dvds and blue rays
9:56 pm
. right look at this back in 2011 was basically nearly 80% were blu rays, dvds in the home entertainment market versus streaming was less than 10% now flip forward to 2022. those numbers have completely reversed in such a short period of time, something things like this. has basically gone out the window, right? people are not using these anymore. this is a taste of history from a chef. chef. stop i believe it is. i have the dvd right here. so what happened to vhs? when did that? when did that? go away? i've come with props tonight. vhs tapes. here's what this looks like. in case you forgot, folks, this is what it looks like. this was a 2003. home depot. college bowl preview. here you go. mm hmm. yes smells nice, doesn't it? you know, dvds and vhs, you know, basically switched places just like you know, dvds went out of style. now you look back in the late nineties, vhs was basically 100% of the home entertainment market. but less than a decade later, they were only 1% of the
9:57 pm
home entertainment market. so this is something we've seen over and over again, right? where one thing seems to be in style and then poof finals coming back, though. vinyl is coming back you, can you it's up to nearly 10% of the music market at this point. i appreciate it. thank you. we'll be right back. make your first move with battery power. made by steel. right now, save $50 on the 57 battery trimmer. real steel find yours. they need a loan back fast, and you need scotts turf builder rapid grass grass two times faster than the loan given you a stronger lawns, freedom, a
9:58 pm
turf builder, rapid grass. today it's guaranteed feed it long feed it from the number one rated brandon cordless outdoor power introducing the ego zero turn riding mower. technology drives like a car turns on a dime, delivering ultimate control with the precision of a steering wheel. it's weather resistant. and with 22 horsepower 2.5 acres on a single charge, powered by egos patented 56 volt lithium battery technology, the same batteries used on all ego tools exclusively at lowe's ego authorized dealers was stuck. unresolved depression. symptoms were in my way i needed more for my antidepressant helps give it a lift to an antidepressant is clinically proven to help relieve overall depression symptoms better than an antidepressant alone. clinical studies most's on no substantial impact on weight dementia.
9:59 pm
patients have increased risk of death or stroke report unusual changes in behavior or suicidal thoughts. antidepressants can increase these in children and young adults. report fever, stiff muscles and confusion as these may be life threatening or uncontrolled muscle movements, which may be permanent blood sugar, which can lead to coma or death, weight gain and high cholesterol may occur. movement dysfunction and restlessness are common side effects, stomach and sleep issues. dizziness increased appetite and fatigue are also common side effects may not appear for several weeks. i didn't have to change my treatment. i just gave it a lift about rail are and learn how abbvie can help you save this friday. ahmed interpreter director guy ritchie ahmed saved my life. and now i have to go save his you're good. i'm good covenant theaters friday. bladder or maybe can change your world like going hiking just to hike to the bathroom, reaching
10:00 pm
for the bar just to reach for pads. mm hmm. waiting for the sunset. just to wait for the stall discovered gem. tessa a once a day pill, proven to reduce all three key symptoms of oabbie leakage episodes, urgency and frequency in adults. do not take if you have a known allergic reaction to jim tessa ingredients. tell your doctor right away if you are unable to empty your bladder, or if you have a weak urine stream. tell your doctor if you're taking medicines that contain the jackson or if you have liver or kidney problems, said effects may include headache. common cold symptoms. diarrhea nausea, urinary tract and upper respiratory tract infection. ask your doctor about chem, tessa and see how your event could help you save up. hey you know it doesn't have to be this way. right junipers industry leading ai automatically sets up thousands of secure sd wan
10:01 pm
connectionsn