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of reporters to share their scoops here here with me tonight . we have harry antin, elena train athena jones and brynn gingras. great to have all of you. okay so plans are officially underway for president joe biden to formally announced his bid for a second term. elena is following this story for us, elena. how will this unfold next week? right so i think the big question that everyone has been asking now for months is will president biden run again and the answer is yes, he is, and it's going to be announced as early as next week. we're hearing tuesday that will be rolling out a campaign video . it's also i mean in classic biden fashion he's going to be, you know, he's very fond of anniversaries. fond of being sentimental, and it's going to be potentially on tuesday. like i said on the four year anniversary of when he launched his 2020 campaign, so, um that's what we're all paying attention to, and i think it's really interesting. there's been a lot of debate behind the scenes about the timing for this, and i think one of the big questions
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was. does he wait to get into the race? because there is, i think a benefit to focusing on his agenda and also staying above the fray when it comes to a lot of the republican politics that are playing out. but at the same time, and i think the reason they're trying to announce as early as next week is because they want to get this fundraising operation underway and they really want to start energizing voters around him, especially those who are skeptical about his age and also whether he's progressive enough to continue in the white house. that was going to be one of my questions, which is what changes on tuesday. like what will change for all of us? how will we see we see something different? you know, it's a great question. i think that his his team is trying to figure out how to change president biden and the man in the white house and to campaign biden. i know that the dnc is very involved in trying to make sure that his image is as great as it can be, and also to try and project to voters that biden is still fit to serve an office that he isn't too old that he still is with it, which is some of the
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questions that i think have been plaguing his administration. so far over the last year and a half, and i do think that he's going to be leaning much harder into what we see as the traditional campaign stops touting what he's been able to do while in office so far, and also trying to reach voters and the same that we saw him do it on the 2020 2020 campaign trail, which was the retail politicking that we know biden is actually pretty good at the charm that he can use. i think we're going to see that be rolled out much earlier than people had anticipated because you'll remember his critics said that he wasn't doing enough campaigning out in the real world and in his basement, so we'll see a different style, obviously, because it's not covid anymore. yes and i do think that this will be interesting because i mean that was such a benefit for biden in 20 twenties, but because of covid, you know, donald trump was able to draw a lot of viewers and voters to his rallies. they were like rock concerts, you know donald trump with the music sick and the crowd and the and the signs. biden, on the other hand, doesn't always have that same appeal, so i think it's going to be very interesting this time around when everything's back in
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person when crowds are going to be coming out in full force again to see if he can keep up with some of the rock star republicans that we're going to see on the trail. just note. you know what won't change next tuesday is it was he would still be joe biden, right. he's not going to magically become barack obama and start giving these wonderful oratory addresses. that is not gonna not gonna happen. look at the end of the day. joe biden is the heavy favorite for the democratic nomination. if he does, in fact, announced on tuesday, right what i think he's looking forward to is perhaps trying to rev up more enthusiasm among the democrats, right? it's not about the number of votes, he necessarily will get the primer. it's about the general election and making sure that head i have an 80% approval rating with democrats, but they're not necessarily enthusiastic about my candidacy when i face off against whoever the republican nominee will be. is it just going to be enough that let's say the republican nominee is donald trump that they're going to come out because they hate donald trump so much or let's just say it's not donald trump. then maybe we do have to rev up democrats for
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somebody besides donald trump, and maybe it's because they're behind joe biden. i think that's the real question going forward. another question is, of course, there's been some questions about kamala harris people in the democratic party raising concerns partly because of joe biden's age. had you get a sense of that they've kind of overcome that aren't worried about that anymore. and is there any indication of kind of how much they're going to be using her and relying on her to boost the enthusiasm in certain sections of segments of voters? that is a really good question, and i think it is actually something that the biden campaign privately they want to say this publicly, but privately acknowledges that is a difficulty that they need to overcome. i think a lot of people thought that kamala harris would be a rock star vp issue did really well on the trail, and not so well as his vice president, which is common. i mean, oftentimes and when you're in the white house, the vps or the one who gets the bad policies and the ones that have to take the fall for some of the more negative coverage also say that they haven't given her opportunities to be iraq's 100%
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they would they think that that the biden that joe biden and the administration has been sidelining the vp on many of the key issues, and she did have a recent big win with tennessee when she went right down amid all of the politics and the craziness and chaos in tennessee recently. that was a great moment for her, but i do think that i think one thing that we're watching for, and i haven't been able to get an answer from the bad administration on this is how involved will she be on the campaign? she will, of course be employed. she will be a top surrogate for the president. she will be making a series of campaign starts alongside him and on her own. but how much will they lean into her and really see her as an asset rather than just part of his campaign as is you have approval numbers. i mean, look, joe button look, joe biden's approval rating among democrats has consistently been in the low to medium democrats. i mean, if you look overall, his approval rating is stuck in the low to mid forties. that is not the place you want to be, if you know next year, most presidents who have approval ratings that
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low lose reelection and so i think the question again. i just sort of pose it is him going out to campaign? is that going to perhaps raises approval ratings , right? we've seen inflation come back a little bit. we have certainly we've come out of the covid pandemic. a gas prices are lower than they were saying, you know, last year at their peaks, so the economy is starting to get a little bit better. yet joe biden's approval rating is as steady as it goes in the low to mid forties, right where donald trump's approval rating was and the difference between this campaign and that one is joe biden's favorable rating. for much of that campaign was net positive. now it negative, and we're basically perhaps faced with sort of this reboot of bizarro version of the 2016 campaign. we had two very disliked candidate. we may get that again, and i proffered to the to the panel just asking what are we going to do? i mean, it's just gonna be bizarre coverage it will be. and i do think though one very key point that we have to notice. there aren't really serious opposition candidates and people who are
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challenging job, biden. i mean, we're not seeing he is definitely the favorite. and there aren't many people who are realistically going to beat him . the nomination on right not to herrick detract from her. very i think that you dismiss her because you're a numbers guy, and so you dismiss it, too. to easily because i know that she doesn't have high numbers. however she, um in debates, and when you talk to her one on one, she has a lot of ideas and policies that she articulates. really well often better than president biden and also keep in mind that him announcing he'll be obviously trying to do more to tout his record. we obviously that the white house is always trying to tout the record of the president, but this is going to give him a chance to do so on a more regular basis, and maybe they think that that will help with the enthusiasm bringing out you know, beginning to remind people why they should choose him. several months down the line, and i do think people aren't exactly political people like myself. the age thing is a
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major issue. i mean, i have friends that don't you know the economy is a major issue for them, but they look at biden. they say he was old four years ago. what is he going to look like former years from now, and it's a major issue. so if there is a candidate that even has just a little bit more spirit and spunk i think that would go a long way that that person will certainly get a look because he's the oldest president ever. he is and you know if he and trump become the nominees, what is their combined age and election day? going to be near? what left 160. i mean, it's not, and i do wonder if there is a genuine sort of challenger who has been, you know, elected before whether they could really make a run at joe biden, but at this particular point that two challengers that have gotten the most pressure miriam williamson and robert f. kennedy jr. who obviously has his own issues that he has stick intend within the early numbers. you know, suggest that joe biden is running at what about 70% against the two of them? not exactly at this point looking at the numbers are do they suggest that either one of those would be a strong challenger? you're also keeping an eye on, um,
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governor of virginia, glen duncan, and today he gave a talk in which he talked about doing away with grievance politics. what would that world look like ? right i mean, it's funny because it is a message that we're seeing increasingly more republicans and republican canada. it's who are running in 2024 people like tim scott. try to embrace they're saying we need to go back to reagan reaganism, where he was optimistic. it's a sunny day in america, um and, you know, obviously contrasting starkly with the former president donald trump and ron desantis, who have been all about grievance politics. the rhetoric is very negative and dark, and it's funny. i think if you look at glen duncan, he's someone who i know just months ago, talking to a lot of republicans, both on capitol hill throughout washington strategists they all thought that young can could be almost a dark horse in the republican race for the nomination, and now it looks like he's pulling away from running again. but his speech today did sound very heavily like he's thinking about his
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future political ambitions and we have some sound. i think if we want to play that i think first of all we've allowed ourselves to fall into. i think a trap of grievance politics. and grievance politics is, i think, underpins by myopic focus on oneself. i think that grievance politics has run its course. and we've got to put it down. and that's a wonderful aspiration. i mean, and i don't mean to make it happen. i'm not kidding happening. i don't mean to make light of it. i think that the sound drive. i think that's a wonderful aspiration. and i think that he should be applauded for saying that i just not everybody's going along with it. i guess that's my point is we get closer. of course selection doesn't that i'll just get thrown out the window. i mean, it doesn't last very long. but good aspiration i was thinking about. i was thinking when he said that i was saying he didn't he just do something that was kind of grievance. you could argue this what he calls
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the parental rights movement when it comes to giving parents who are concerned about what their kids are being taught in schools. that's what helped him get elected a couple of a few years ago, and some might call that grievance politics what i was referring to. i was referring to how he had said something that snuck that struck people as snide about nancy pelosi right after her husband had been hurt, but then i found out our producers told me that he wrote. her a handwritten note apology note after that, so that's fantastic. you know that maybe he is putting his money where his mouth is, harry, so i think that democrats in that state where very much disagree with the idea that glen duncan is, you know, going to bring this kumbaya moment of politics. look, we talk about this all of the time. you know that we need to come together as a country that we need people who reach across the aisle. but the fact is that the further we get along you know, when i was in high school, we were saying that and now you know, and then in college that was saying that and then when i got my first job, we were saying that every moment along the way we've just become more and more polarized and more
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and more nasty, so you'll excuse me if my cynicism gets in the way of me believing that we're about to reach this moment. we're all going to join hands together, and the sunshine is going to rain down on us all with the rainbow, then forming like you're an american. right now. i feel like that's not a can do attitude, harry. well you know, maybe i need a little bit more sunshine and maybe come may become the sunrise. i will join you in the american. yeah i look forward to that. stick around everybody. next we're going to hear from one ceo who wants his workers back in the office so much that he prayed. raised one for selling the family dog so he could work more. harry's got the numbers on how many of you are still working from home? we'll all have a word about that next. cnn t tonight. brought to you by chevevallier critics are raving chevalier is an epic tour de force that will leave you breathless. chevallier told true
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nothing. i learned from one of our leaders that in the midst of hearing this this message and sold their family dog which breaks my heart, but truly, um, that those are the sacrifices that are being made, and i honor you for those sacrifices. that was james clark, ceo of the digital marketing and technology company called clear link. he was in a town hall calling for employees to return to the office and sell your pet to prove your commitment. very engine has been following the story, harry, i know you could never have a pet. you work so much, and you're in the you are in the office. you haven't left the office actually for years. i haven't you have not left. um and you can never have a pet, right? you don't have one. i do not have one, though. i love dogs, especially small dogs. last map. so's girlfriend loves cavalier, king charles, our king charles cavalier. however however, it's the ordering of the question. tell her well,
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given the work patterns. it may be a little bit out of the question. so what's happening with americans? have they gone back to work? how many people are working back in the office nowadays? sure. so let's take a little walk. we're going to go on a fun little exercise. look at this. we have a magic wall here where i'm gonna answer your question, alison. so why don't we take a look at how americans are currently working right? so the clear majority of americans are fully on site at this 0.58% 2nd hybrid at 29% fully work from home is just 13% so if you're fully working from home, perhaps you're one of the lucky ones. most americans are are in the office at least some of the time now, why do people like to work from home? so here are two top reasons people like to work from home. number 1 71% say it's easier to maintain a work life balance. alright second meet work deadlines, 56% which is interesting, right? because you might think working from home might make it more difficult to meet deadlines. but in fact, those who work from home state makes it easier. the clear
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majority of them do. of course, there is some disagreement between workers and their employers. so how many days a week should employees work at home? well, the average among workers, they say 2.2, but employers say 1.5 on average, so employers are much more likely to want to get those employees back to the office. while the employees especially those working from home or let's say, a little hesitant to go back. well done, harry. great walk great magic wall. not easy, not easy. i'm gonna sit better than i did last break because the girlfriend got in touch with me and said she didn't like the way it was sitting. okay. this is excellent. the way you're sitting down is great. tastic, brynn. you you all of your reporters work as far as i can tell. seven days a week you work seven days a week. you're constantly doing think so, mom, can you imagine working only three days a week in the office ? i still laugh because i have friends who get like stipends for lunch for like $20 to come
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in one day a week just to come in and get free lunch. i'm like what, like can i please get lured back lower back in but still to what? two years now, after the pandemic, there's still being lured back. begin with the one day a week. yeah no, it would be incredible and i as i said in the break in favor of just the four day week 10 hours a day. i'm cool with that , like we don't need to work from home. i'll come in four days a week. that'd be great. and that seems to work as we have seen, but i am actually surprised at harry's numbers, the number of people who are in full time that was higher than i thought. not gonna lie much higher. i thought it was lowered. based on who i know. yeah people are people. you know, my sister was let me at one point you know, we can't change the rules. we can't demand everyone come in, because people are just going to change jobs. people got so used to working from home that they don't want. they don't want to change their like this is the way it's gotta be three days. maybe three days at home is probably what a lot of people that i know are dealing with a fully at work. you mean, five
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days a week. you're you have a full time job, right? and if your full time job is five days, then you're five days at work. i would note, though, that there's a big economic divide right. a big income divide. people of lower income are far more likely to go in five days a week. there's also i a divide between different parts of the country, right and major cities. you're less likely to go in five days a week. then let's say if you work in a small town or a roller rural area, i would've thought it was the opposite. because if you live in a major city, you can walk to work. you can walk to your office place. and if you're living sort of in the you know further out, it's harder. think about think about. we're talking metropolitan areas right. so think about someone who lives let's say a suburb of new york might be in westchester county. right? well, that might be a big big commute for them, especially given the traffic times. you know if you're trying to cross into the city, and you're like, oh, i don't want to travel across, you know, one of the east river crossings of the henry hudson parkway that could take a long time. you're much more likely to stay home versus
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you know, if you're in a rural area, you might face less traffic. it might be easier to go. and so that's something i think we've seen in this office. right is why do people not want to come in? it's because they don't want to face that long commute or the types of jobs. i'm thinking in a role where you have people who work on farms or have the type of jobs where it's required to be. at work. it might not be the office as we know it, but i have to go in every day. the thing that i find interesting, too, though, is that i was looking at some surveys today that we're just showing how so many americans feel like they and your number showed it to harry. that they feel like they're getting more done because they are not commuting that they're able to have that work life balance, but also actually improving their the time that they're spending working or even working longer because they're working at home, which i found really interesting because i always thought that you go into the office and that's where the real work happens. but it doesn't seem that that's the case, too. i thought i found that interesting also, but they also sometimes say that working at home, they're working more right. there's no boundary, right so they don't leave the office. you
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always have your phone. phone on you at all times. people can get in touch with you at 10 pm and so there's you know, you're not putting it to bed at a certain time. you never turn your brain off. yeah but i think that you know our jobs. in you know, journalism are some of the jobs that have not been able to change it all. in other words, you can't work from home. you are on scene at the breaking news you're traveling to. wherever the news is, you're covering politics. even if it's a late night, you know event with whichever politician that you're following and her for some reason. you're just always here. i don't think you have to be. but you are like the free snacks that we now yet i like the people i work with. i mean, you know, but i've had an interesting experience. right because i really came from more of a digital background writing instead of being on tv, and what i find is actually write my articles better at home. but i will not appear on tv from home. you know the moment i was able to come back into the office and didn't have to appear on cisco with the you know the scrambled image, and then i couldn't see
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what slides were coming up by president i was back in the office, you know, wearing a mask, you know, had like 10 masks on at one time, but at least i was back in the office. but i understand the appeal from working from home, you know, especially when i'm writing it's just easier for me to form your day. the way you want. you can throw a load of laundry and get it down. while you're just like writing up your data, and you just form your day better. that's what that's what i enjoy. realism to laundry. just want to get it to get a lot done because you don't have interruptions like i love the interactions. i love this social aspect of being at work. collaboration is great. look forward to seeing brent every day. i'm like friends, not here. oh, no, but i do think that you could get a lot more done sometimes. if you are at home, you have no interruptions, no at least no physical interruptions because it's kind of rude to someone walks in your office. you're not just going to like, uh huh. i mean, sometimes, but you know, if you if you don't have no interrupting you, then you can just buckle down and get it done. and then, of course, like you said that you don't realize the day should be ending. and so you're like. oh,
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. he's avoided execution three times so narrowly that he's been given three last meals. but now he faces execution again. on may 18th. the cnn's brynn gingras has been covering this story since last summer. brent three last meals and then what? then at the last minute, they say, no , you don't have to be executed in stays or there's been reprieved and one case there was a botched execution. so oklahoma had a review how it was conducting lethal injections. and so his stay, got delayed and delayed so he's had actually nine execution dates but made it up to that last meal three times , so we're getting closer to that last meal, too. it's just in case i've been covering since last summer. i mean consequence, quite frankly, breaks my heart very emotional because this man he's fighting for his life. and i want to give you a little back story about the case, but he never even actually killed the person he's accused of killing. so what happened was the prosecutors at the time say he actually was the mastermind behind it and ordered a coworker of his to kill their boss, even
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though he there was no circumstantial evidence tying him to this killing. basically all the prosecution at the time had was this other employee named justin sneed to go on stand and basically say richard glossip did it and he told me to do yet, and that's it and that man did not go to death row for that he's serving life in prison. meanwhile in oklahoma, richard glossip is going to face death for not even quote pulling a trigger. um so research you believe he is not guilty? i mean, i'm supposed to be an unbiased, but yeah, i mean, and i'm not the only one. listen this is case has been picked up. by susan sarandon, richard branson. it's made international headlines. and the most interesting part about this case is that republicans in a red state who firmly believe in capital punishment you know, think that there are certain criminals that deserve the death penalty. they don't believe he should be put to death and they are fighting for him to be taken off of death row and this was a big blow to them because they really thought that this last chance was going to finally
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turned the criminal court of appeals. the five justices minds and it didn't so that's who it is. but the governor can grant a reprieve. the governor can. we're not quite there. yet there's a clemency hearing next week, and the parole board has to ask the governor to consider clemency. so he's not there yet , but backing up just a little bit. what the justices decided today was that they would not overturn his conviction not vacated, which was what they were hoping was going to happen, but the big thing is that they were considering new evidence, and that's why they thought he was actually going to get out of jail this time, his defense team and part of this new evidence was a prosecution's box of evidence that was never in all these years turned over to the defense, whole box of evidence and that evidence there is paperwork showing that this person who lied on the stand or allegedly lied on the stand that he wanted to recant his testimony. he wanted to take it back. there was other evidence, saying that he was bipolar, and that was never even told to the defense, so that was never even put in front of a jury. so there's just tons and tons of
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evidence that has only been collected by his defense team. but legislature legislators rather in the in the oklahoma state. the three last meals thing. i just can't get past that. it's so harrowing to know the trauma that has to he has to be going through every time he has one of those or the nine different dates for his sentencing. how common is that? i haven't been following these cases as closely as you. how common is it for someone to have multiple different dates or having it keep get pushed back multiple different dates. it could be comin right because there are always appeals that are always in play right. but as far as getting to that last day before, you actually could be exit. acute in going through that mental trauma. that's obviously not very common, and especially in oklahoma. this isn't just like today is my last day in tomorrow's my execution date. there is a full week that happens before they reach that last meal date where they are in a cell by themselves. lights on . all they have is a piece of paper and a notepad. they don't even get a blanket because they were worried about, you know, possibly a hanging or some sort
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of suicide. it's torture, and actually, the legislature has worked to reverse even those methods of what was happening in oklahoma, so there's a lot that's happening behind the scenes between the state legislature and particularly with this case, but it does seem like many people in this state. don't want to see this man died . but i do really want to point out really quickly. we can go to the sound because this broke my heart today because jake tapper talk to his attorney in response to what the criminal court of appeals decided today, and i want you to hear what his attorney said. he said today to me, don, you know? should i be prepared to be killed on may 18th and that was about as low a point as i've seen him and this is his ninth execution date. this is this is tough. he's he's been down this road far too many times. no one should have to endure that. and that personally hurt me because i actually talked to richard to just a few months ago on the phone. we didn't get to go to oklahoma actually meet him in person. but he was so happy. he had his met a woman that he's married and
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he's ready to jail. so he had, like jailhouse wedding. yeah yeah, actually, i'm no. they did get married. um so, yeah, he was really looking forward to this. this what was in front of the criminal court of appeals, and he was really hopeful. that they were going to finally see his side of things and he was going to get out and be able to actually spend time with her. and so to hear him say that, you know he's asking about this date. am i going to have to prepare to diet that broke me today? i have to ask without knowing much about the case. besides what i read before, you know, knowing that we were gonna do this segment. why why haven't they granted? you know any of these appeals? what's exactly going on? if you ask don knight his attorney. he thinks there's a vendetta. i mean, that's the only explanation that he can come up with because there it has been just so much evidence and again. they're not even asking for the case to just go away. they just want a new hearing. like, just hear the evidence. let a jury listen. um and so yes, he there's really no clear answer to that. but i will say the there the republican
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lawmaker who's really ahead of this and who's really fought for this longest. he has said. if they don't do something there, he's going to go after impeachment of these justices. he told jake tapper that today, which wow. pretty explosive in oklahoma about glossip that makes all of these people believe that he is innocent where you couldn't really have been a mastermind of this. i think it's just the totality of all the evidence has been uncovered. it's not just that box that i just described to you guys. there was also an entire report that was commissioned last summer by a number of bipartisan lawmakers, lot of republicans and it was like 350 pages by reed smith investigative group and law firm and they found just so much evidence. since that just raises questions. you know, you don't necessarily have to think he's innocent. but at least raised questions. and that's the point here is how can you put a man to death? if you're not certain he did it. also, the botched execution is very disturbing, brian. thanks for alerting us all to this, and please keep supposed to what happens before may 18th okay. meanwhile any
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educational progress shows that just 33% of fourth grade students performed act or above the proficient level on the reading assessment in 2022. that's 2% points lower than it was in 2019. more significantly , 37% of fourth grade students performed below the basic level in 2022 has been reporting on education in this post pandemic era. it's so interesting because you know, there's all these culture wars going on in the schools. while kids can't read right. they were talking about banning books. but let's make sure the kids can read the books that they are allowed to read, and there's a lot of focus on the learning loss during the pandemic. there's an a p article today out of georgia, talking, focusing on that state on one school in and outside atlanta that's trying to help third graders catch up. these are exactly kind of the age that lost out so much on some of the beginning. fundamentals these are children who may have missed class over zoom. i mean, try teaching as six or seven year old over. zoom these fundamentals. that's part of the problem, but it's bigger than that is something that goes way
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beyond the pandemic or structures back. you know, a couple of decades. i'll tell you, though, this is not something i was aware of. until i began digging into this. there is this whole new way of teaching kids to read that. i wasn't aware of about you, but i learned to read on phonics hooked on phonics. you know, you're you're learning letters. you're learning what letters combination makes what makes what sound? there is a whole new way that the end to emerge in the eighties nineties and really took hold in certain parts of the country all over the country, but not every single school. it was popular. a lot of places it's called balanced literacy. and it was this idea that kids should not be sounding out words or they should sound out words as a last resort. it's stunning. it's an idea that you should see that to that on the left balance. literacy, there's those concentric circles. those are the cues that the children supposed to use to try to guess the word so they're reading by guessing, and so you'll have a sentence. there are some examples where they'll cover up the entire word. so it's almost like fill in the blank, a six year old a six or seven year
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old, you're asking to fill in the blank without even seeing the first letter of the word they're meant to sort of deduced based on the context of the sentence, what the word could be, but so many times that work could be so many things. then maybe you see the first letter and you begin to say okay, well, what? what are what words start with that letter? it's an odd way of teaching children how to read because so much of it relies on memorization. of course, you memorized sight words that kind of work. that are hard to decode. decoding is when you're spelling it out and sounding it out. but the thing is, you know, these these teachers will tell you that children would read the same books over and over again. but if you gave them a new book they hadn't seen before. they would really struggle because you're not learning the actual tools to sound out the word and also you know, we were on the way to this. this should we do today we passed by a wah wah. there was a snickerdoodle. no one's gonna ever guess that is ever going to get you have to be able to spell out the words that anywhere you come across. you have the confidence. to spell it so funny because now you're reminding me of teaching my daughters to read when they were, you know,
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reading to them. basically, we would read to them. okay, so there are two years old and at one point, my daughter i could do this sight gag where she could read the whole book, but she was memorized it. but it was a fantastic sight gag because this little toddler could read the entire book. i'm going through it like you're so smart. but basically, why are they doing this? put that graphic up again because i'm fascinated by what they're doing. so put the graphic up about the you were saying balanced literacy? why? why have they changed it from phonics that that's unclear. i'm still not really getting to the bottom of this. there are there are several influential sort of academic counselors, consultants . maybe they actually are academics. but there their their theories are disproven. and yet there's a lot of people who, over time end up having less stake in these this way of teaching. but i examine this. i found that people say that those cues those sort of like trying to guess the word by the context of the sentence. that's what you fall back on. if you're struggling to read, it's not the
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way you should be the first thing that you should be doing, and so now we're seeing a lot of focus on what's called the science of reading, which sounds all fancy, but it's really just focusing more on phonics a lot more on phonics. and so that's what we're seeing. in this atlanta school, the ap wrote about and in some states that are really emphasizing that this way of sounding out letters and words and phrases, they're seeing better scores and even the school we visited pennsylvania, you know they were trying to balance the receipt for about 18 months. it was not even a full two school years. this principle, said it was my idea i had to swallow, swallow my pride and admit that it wasn't working. they were finding under their previous assessment, maybe, like a quarter of the students were at grade level now, bringing back a lot more phonics. they actually spend extra 40 minutes doing helping children understand their individual, you know, syllables that they need to work on all of that. they found that they went from about 20% grade level to 60. only since the beginning of this year, so it's been really remarkable. and we actually talked to a student
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who's who's reading has just skyrocketed. her her progress has been dramatic. um just over the course of however many months it's been in the school year. i feel like all schools should be listening to this right now. and that's old school . what you're saying is they're going back to the old school way of sounding things out. like they say, well, it's not just that, because you know it is important to understand to understand the meaning of words and other things, not just phonics, right? but you it. it should be a both and approach both and there are lots of things that you need to do. but one of the examples that i heard was that you know you have a kid who thinks that invite mistakes invited for invaded. that's going to be very different if you're talking about, you know, poland in 1939 have to understand. and, of course, third grade fourth grade. these are very important times. that's when a lot of these students get assessed. and you know after these grades is when they're going to start having to really, you know, use reading to learn, and even this principle is telling me this this math assessment that's coming up, you know, statewide test in
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pennsylvania. those are those are reading questions. there are word problems so reading. we all know it's fundamental, but it's really doing. a lot of these teachers feel that they did a lot of children a disservice over years because people just didn't they didn't go up the love of reading. they found it wasn't enough just to surround the children with books. um no, you have to actually teach them how to read. it ain't broke. what like right. don't understand how this even developed. why do we get away from it in the first place? yes. why fix something that ain't broke? yeah, thanks for learning us. to that great story. okay. up next on the lookout. our reporters are going to tell us what stories they are looking out for on the horizon. hey man, you could save hundreds for safe driving w with liberty mutual customizee your car insurance. o you only pay for what you need. who we gotta go again for what you need. liberty liberty, liberty liberty always been prone to hair thinning. getting
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reporters are going to tell us what stories they are keeping an eye on. we call it on the lookout. okay, harry, what do you do? you got some exciting news. go okay, so i have a podcast margins of error. it is up for a webby in the arts and culture. individual episode category exciting thank you. thank you. so i was ahead as of this morning or early early this morning, but then the final 24 hours. you can actually look at the standings, so i have no idea what's actually going to happen, but the polls close at three a.m. eastern time. so about three hours from now, basically want all of our viewers to immediately go online and vote for you. so if you go to forecaster entin on twitter that's e n t e n or you go to forecaster entin on instagram. i believe either one of those sites i have a picture on twitter with a dog and me, uh, metric kalidas dog. okay hard
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it's really fascinating to me that we're so close. now are two months away, and that the bill that they're even putting on the on the floor next week isn't something that would ever pass into law. that's good to know that. i mean, it's classics, politics. i mean, this is the thing that reporters like myself are always banging their heads against the wall. because you know that so much the time and effort that you're putting in and every day into these things is just things that are never going to pass. so that's what i'm watching. okay, athena. well we all know about this terrible accident shooting on the rest movie set and what we now know that alec baldwin. the charges against him have been dropped. and so now the lawyers for the armorer that's the young woman who was whose job was to make sure the gun was clear. didn't have any bullets in it. they believe that that she her name is hannah gutierrez read will also be exonerated. of course, she had a slightly different role in this on this job, and then then alec baldwin did so we'll wait and see if and when that happens, but they're certainly very hopeful that that it will. okay, so bret, i know that you're following the 20
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year old who turned into the wrong driveway shot to death to see if there's more charges that are going to come against the shooter kept him on a hand. i was in court yesterday. it was so emotional. i mean, this 20 year old boyfriend was there, who she, of course, died next to that night. and you know, the prosecutors say that they're looking into more charges because let's remember there wasn't just her and her boyfriend were to others in the car and other cars as well. that he's trying it. so i'm honestly looking forward to a week where we don't hear about these shootings because this week has been tapping. yeah no, i pray we all pray. pray for that week. um thank you all very much. great to have you all here and tomorrow on cnn this morning, it's straight out of a hollywood script. $15 million worth of gold stolen from an airport inside the rare gold heist that starts at six. a.m. eastern. thanks so much for watching us tonight. our coverage continues now. how to grow more vibrant flowers. step one. feed them with miracle gro, shake andnd
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