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captioning brought to you by meso book .com. we offer a free book on mesothelioma call for the free book and receive so much more call 1 808 31 37 100. good evening. cnn has learned that president biden's announcement to run for a second term. now maybe days away, he will run a source telling cnn. it's no longer helpful or necessary to not just say the obvious. the exact day, however, still being debated. already the oldest person to serve the president would be weeks away from his 82nd birthday. should he win a second term advisors tell cnn the decision to announce comes at a time with the campaign fields it needs to energize voters about the president. his policies. and a second term. mattingly our chief white house correspondent joins me, so no date has been set. not finalized, i think is probably the best way to frame things, but advisors have made clear and have been privately meeting and planning to announce on tuesday of next week, and the reason

that's important and it would be through a campaign video. it's not going to be a major rally, but officials start to things launch that we have long expected long been told, was coming, but never really had a firm timeline on that seems to be shifting pretty clearly. that date on tuesday, is four years to the day from when the president launched his 2020 campaign. the campaign where he defeated donald trump the campaign, which he framed as a battle for the soul of the nation, a battle that the president and his team very clearly believe is still ongoing . and that is a big driver why the president has long been pushing towards seeking reelection and one thing when you talk to officials they make clear behind the scenes. anderson there has been an intensive effort underway for several months to build the infrastructure. of the likely campaign. there have been significant number of interviews with staffers have been regular meetings between the presidents , senior team, the president and the first lady planning for this moment, and they have very much been moving in this direction. the question has always been wynn and there's been a lot of

questions as to why the president who said late last year that expected to make a decision early this year waited this long. aides have been very clear. they feel very comfortable about where they are no clear challenges that they're worried about on the democratic side of things very happy to let the report glicken primary in its nascent kind of place right now continue to play out, but especially with calling donors to washington late next week, making very clear that the moment is now to start moving to build towards what they know will be a hard fought campaign filled the last campaign that he had was in the middle of covid, which lessen the events that then candidate biden held any idea how sort of the tone and tenor of this campaign. you know it's interesting because when you talk to officials while they don't want to focus on the fact that he's currently the oldest president in us history, that if he wins re election by the time he's done, he would be 86 years old. they recognize that it is an issue. their view of it, though, is that it is not the prevailing issue for voters. it is not something that is a deciding issue for voters, and that the president has proven up

to this point is that experience matters and experience gets results. now they have made clear they're going to model at least kind of the first year of this campaign. 2023 off of to some degree what president obama did back in 2011. it's not going to be a full on blitz every single day to swing states. traveling in the like it's going to be a build into 2024. there'd be a lot of testing on messages, testing on data operations and on campaign operations. but what you've seen anderson over ththee first three or four months of this year? it's a pretty good model of what you're going to see in the months ahead. the president has a legislative agenda that's been enacted agenda that is currently being implemented. right now. you've seen him out in the country, including to a number of swing seats, talking about specific elements of that agenda that they feel like our underscoring what they've accomplished up to this point. and can continue to accomplish. that's going to be a key component of the months ahead. but they are very cognizant of the fact this is going to be a very intense, very tough campaign in 2024 will certainly be building toward that. yeah don't matter. i appreciate it. thank you perspective now from stuart

stevens, former republican political consultants and senior political correspondent and anchor abby phillip, cnn contributor and biden biographer evan osnos, and on the phone. cnn senior political commentator david axelrod, a former senior adviser of president obama. evan, what do you know about how this decision process has been unfolding? well they've been working on it quietly behind the scenes for a long time. some of the people that the president trusts most. this has been a pretty major sideline for them. you know, this doesn't come obviously as a shock he's been saying, signaling in every possible way that he intended to run. and what you saw was him taking his time with it. partly that's his nature. you know he doesn't rush into decisions. but there was also an element going on here that this adviser said there is no reason for us to race out of the gates here because, after all, he was sort of in the office of the presidency. you get a pretty big dividend. are getting as much attention as you want. meanwhile, on the other side of the aisle he's watching the beginning of a pretty tough primary fight for the gop. he's sort of letting that play out, letting that occupy a better the a bit of the headlines.

meanwhile, donald trump, of course, is in legal trouble of a whole range of types. ron desantis is having some political challenges that people wouldn't have anticipated a few weeks ago. so you know if you're joe biden, you're traveling the world. you're in washington working on legislative issues. there was no reason to rush this. from his perspective. you obviously can't separate the president's age from the campaign. he's older than running. reagan was when he left office. yeah absolutely. i mean, look, this is going to be an unmistakable part of just who joe biden is. it is today, but it also was when he ran for president the first time in 2020 when he was running in a field of all candidates who were younger than him on the democratic side, some of whom explicitly made his age and issues, so there's clearly a desire in the american public and even in the democratic electorate to see a changing of the guard, a generational change. but that has been something that biden and his aides are cognizant of. but they also see evidence based on the results of the 2020 election and

the 2022 midterms that voters are willing to put that aside, even in the short term, if they feel like the alternative is a much bigger problem for them, if they are looking at, uh and alternative to biden and to the democratic party writ large that they think is too extreme that they don't think is heading in the direction that they want the country to go in. when you look at the polls in 2022, biden was facing a worsening economy. people who felt like the country was on the wrong track and approval rating in the low forties. and still there was no republican wave, and i think that's not to say that this is going to be in any way, shape or form or walk in the park. but his advisers, i think, believe that what that means is that there is a path that that does not rely on biden suddenly convincing americans that he is a sprite 50 year old. he's never going to be that he's always going to be as old as he is, but but it's about who and what he is running against david. if you were running the biden campaign,

what would be your biggest concern right now? well, the things that i can't control, you know, uh, the economy and whether we see the recession that some have predicted, but hasn't arrived would be one obviously, any kind of health issue for the president, or uh or stumble. uh you know, it's problematical because we said, you know what? he's the chief convinced, same age. he's not. he's going to be older as time goes tournament, so most things you know you have to. you have to be kindness for them and try and guard. against those things. but anderson, i have to say, you know all the seasons running a campaign with a billion dollar enterprises. stuart stevens knows very complex it takes a lot of organization takes a lot of money to take time to raise that money. so on the one hand, there wasn't any pressure into announces he doesn't have a primary challenger and the republicans are kind of hurting themselves right now, but on the other hand, kanye's going here in terms of doing the organizational things are

necessary to run. very tough and competitive campaign, the 2024 much as anything has provoked him to make the announcement now , stuart, i'm wondering, what do you think the timing and also what impact, if any, it has on the republican field so far for the nomination. yeah well, look , man, let me just say i like being on a panel with even did a lot more than being a campaign against him. because the last time you know he ran a great campaign and they won, um you know, i i've never sat on election night and said, well, i thought that we started too early. you usually want more time in the campaign and the one thing that every campaign has exactly the same amount of his time. so tell you use that time, so i think it's a smart. i've been very impressed with the whole operation that barden ran . they reinvented came paining really, and reinvented the convention. they did a good job . um you know, i think donald trump is going to be the nominee . i think ron desantis has proven to be smaller than life.

you know the model for big state republican governors, if you think about it, get elected president reagan bush. they're they're positive. they're optimistic their expansive and ron desantis is clearly not having fun at this and say what you will about donald trump. the guy enjoys the fight. people go to his rallies because it's a spectacle. and there was a question whether or not if he was indicted. it would, uh, hurt him or help him. i was always the impression that it would almost force people to be for donald trump in the republican party to prove that he was being victimized here. otherwise they were validating the big state. so i think this has the potential to shape up to be an unusually long matchup between incumbent president and donald trump. the president has shown some weakness with left leaning voters, especially younger voters in recent polls. i don't know how big a concern that is for them at this stage. does he need to make up ground there? does that matter? i mean, look,

i think young voters absolutely matter if you look at the wisconsin state supreme court referendum just a few weeks back, even if you look at the 2022 midterms. younger voters are voting on issues that really matter to them, that's on reproductive rights on abortion on guns on the environment, and they when they come out, they can make the difference in close races. but at the same time what you see from the biden white house is the window into how they view this really the first two years trying to make good on as many promises as they could, whether it's on student loans, whether it's on funding for you know hbcu s whether it's on a whole host of issues the legislative agenda. and then the last several months, three or four months. they've been moving to the center. so i think that what they see here is that they have tried to offer to the base promises kept to a certain

degree. whether that will hold until next year. we will see, but they know that they now have to reinforce, uh, the middle and for joe biden that's going to be trying to stop the bleeding for democrats among white working class voters and keep the suburban um stronghold. olds for democrats in the last several cycles as strong as they possibly can. even how much input do you think the first lady had on this decision? she's at the core of this. there's no way that he was going to go forward without a sense that not only did she was willing to go into another election, but that she thought he could do it. you know, anderson, i'm reminded of the fact that the most important thing in effect for him to do now is to in order to address the age issue is to show vigor. you know, that's the thing that people saw when they looked at him on that state of the union address night. that's what the conversation was about. for the days afterwards, frankly, people were a little surprised that they saw as much sort of cut and thrust from him. in that moment, he's gonna have to do this a lot. on the campaign trail, and that's a lot of opportunities.

people are gonna be looking for any opportunity to, but this is a chance for him to show that bigger, david. i mean, can kennedy biden campaign get away with the campaign that he had before? or does he need to do more big events? or now that he's president? he can be. can he be just be presidential and do it at his own pace. well look, i don't think there's ever going to be a campaign like well the campaign before where one could. basically we have to go back to the last century, where people basically ran their campaign from their front porch or, in this case, the basement. he's going to have to be out there, but he will probably be out there more as president of the united states, pushing pushing his agenda than as a barnstorming candidates. and you know the one thing and like i think he can be effective doing that. that's what present and obama did from 11 6012, largely pushing an economic agenda that spoke to the kind of voters who abby was referring to, so i

think that we can do that as well. 11 point on young voters and progressives. i think that one of their goals was to lock those voters down to the point where you know the lawyers serious primary challenge he has been able to do that. i don't anticipate that he's going to have a serious challenge and in terms of rallying those voters that republicans are doing a pretty good job of that by pushing extreme agenda on abortion on the gun issue, then he turned the kinds of same set are going to galvanized younger voters, and they're unlikely to be galvanized in favor of the republicans at this course and speed stewart. oh, sorry, go ahead and just to add real quickly what he's saying. i mean, i think biden is going to benefit from the fact that obviously he's not running a primary, but the republicans are and forever. reaction there is a reaction as the republican party moves further and further to the right in order for each candidate to try to get through that primary. that's doing biden's work for him and

allowing him to lock down the democratic base voters without him having to do a whole lot. and stuart. you don't see any scenario where it's not that we're the we're his opponent is not donald trump. well sure. i mean, donald trump could lose this. but think about that if he loses, what's he going to do the next day? ron desantis wins or somebody else wins. donald trump is going to wake up and do everything you can to make sure whoever did win doesn't get elected president united states donald trump isn't suddenly going to start acting like a normal politician, so i think it's just a box that the republicans are in. and if i was ron desantis, and i was advising him, i'd say, man, wait. you'll be 48 years old and four years run, then. not against donald trump. everyone thank you appreciate a good discussion, more presidential politics. they had florida governor ron desantis. as likely to enter the race as well. but can you get past his own stumbles after a bad week for candidacy that officially hasn't even begun. also tonight, new information about notes left behind by the mass shooter who murdered five

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a second term. the decision would come ahead of an expected entry on the republican side, of course, someone that stuart stevens mentioned earlier who many republicans had hoped could defeat the former president for the room before the nomination. florida governor ron desantis. even some of her supporters, though, have been alarmed by setbacks he's had recently cnn's jessica dean has more on that. when it comes to political battles, florida governor ron desantis usually finds himself on the attack. i said, i'm not going to sit back and try to skirt issues. i'm going on offense. i'm going to take the bull by the horns. i'm going to go in there and we're not going to leave anything left to chance. but as desantis nears an official entrance to the 2024 race, a rough stretch with potential allies expressing concern about his policy stances and others questioning his approach to wooing gop lawmakers. to back his not yet announced candidacy desantis recent move to sign a six week abortion ban during a late night private ceremony after returning from out of state travel, prompting concern from top gop

donors, including billionaire ken langone told the washington post. he wants the florida governor to moderate his stance on the issue. and to quote be a little more conciliatory. some of desantis is political rivals , also criticizing his action on abortion. of course, that's a horrible position to be, and it's upsetting a lot of folks. because a lot of republicans are realizing it's going to hurt our message and hurt our ability to win. desantis also visited washington this week, where he met with republican lawmakers seeking to build support for an expected campaign. he's got a lot of factors to consider. and one of them is this constituent, the former president donald j. trump but former president donald trump and his team were one step ahead, planning a separate dinner at mar-a-lago with lawmakers and locking down support from several members of the florida gop delegation. today. the sanctions the sanctimonious push by trump, part of an effort to target the florida governor on a number of fronts, including going after desantis on the airwaves with ads from a trump aligned super

pac desantis has his dirty fingers all over senior entitlements are calling out desantis for threatening additional action in his year long feud with disney. think ron desantis is a conservative. based on his actions towards disney. i mean, you know, where are we headed here now that if you express this agreement in this country, the government is allowed to punish you. to me. that's what i always thought. liberals did greetings from the free state of florida. but desantis remains on message drawing big crowds in south carolina on wednesday. florida shows that leadership really matters, results matter and i think if you look at our results , they are second to none. in new hampshire, the governor headlined a dinner for the state republican party that broke fundraising records. we cannot get distracted. and we cannot afford to lose because freedom is hanging in the balance. and

while he isa likely june announcement, desantis boasts a massive war chest of cash and the super pac backing him is raising big money as it builds out a ground game and launched a new app this week. democrats not lie about governor desantis what happened to donald trump? and jessica dean joins us now. what kind of financial support is to sanders expect to have if and when he announces its growing anderson. he's got this super pac that is aligned with him. it's called never back down, and they have several goals. one of them is for him to break off fundraising records when the day that he announces, so they are trying to have events in early states. they're really trying to build that support and raise a lot of money in the lead up to whenever he may potentially get in that race, but not just that. it's not just the money. it's also expanding their ground operations. we're talking about people that would do things like knocking on doors, phone banking . really the strategy to get delegates in these key states really trying to build this apparatus that it is waiting for him? as soon as he gets in, and

one more thing, anderson i did reach out to governor desantis political team has spokesperson told me. i asked them about just the events of the last week what they made of them, and here's what they said. they said it's unsurprising that establishment republicans, democrats and the media have teamed up to smear governor desantis. he's been fighting back against their woke nonsense for years, and it's just getting started and that's what they told me this evening. anderson statement just getting appreciate it. thanks joining us with her perspective. cnn political commentator christian soltis anderson, republican strategist and pollster. good to have you on it seems like i mean , desantis seems to have gone all in. obviously, this fight with walt disney. is that a wise move politically. i mean, what does a win look like for him on that issue, and what's the cost of that? well. last weekend, donald trump made a statement that he said the old republican party is dead, and he called out a number of issues. things like social security reform immigration and said the older publican party doesn't exist anymore and on those issues. he's right. but i do think that there is an interesting gamble

going on here about whether republicans actually want to see government go after business in my polling. i've seen that when you give republican voters a choice about would you rather see government punish businesses that are trying to be to quote unquote woke, or would you rather see businesses? as long as they're not breaking the law ? they kind of should be able to do what they want, and by a sizable margin, republicans still do say, i think the free market kind of just be allowed to do what it wants, and so it is a little bit of a dangerous gamble. now within the republican primary, if you could harness those most hardcore supporters, the ones who might be the most upset at, say a disney that can benefit you, but that assumes that those voters are not already in donald trump's camp, and that's the tough math that ron desantis has to figure out. and what about on abortion and we saw governor desantis signing, you know, late at night. the six weeks ban, which has raised concerns among some gop donors, so the governor sununu, they're commenting. obviously, he is ambitions of his own. what is the republican

strategy when it comes to abortion right now? well it's always been the case that you know, sort of republican donors have tended to be a little more socially moderate than sort of your rank and file republican voters. so it doesn't surprise me that a lot of republican donors are getting quite nervous . and a lot of the data that i've seen suggests that a six week ban is a little bit past or where even some republicans feel comfortable that something like a 15 week line in the sand, which is what florida had prior to the events of the last couple of weeks, is one that builds so much broader consensus that gets more folks from the middle to come along. and so again. this is an opportunity where ron desantis could have said look in florida. we were a state that was a big winner. instead he's trying to put himself to the right of donald trump. and it remains to be seen. can you actually peel voters off from donald trump's right flank? that's certainly what someone like desantis is going to try, but it's not yet clear to me whether that will succeed kristen soltis anderson

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my daddy and me incomprehensible question from a six year old hensley white stitches in her cheek from where doctors had to remove bullet fragments was just riding her bike while other kids played basketball when gunshots rang out in her north carolina neighborhood. it was rapid as he was running across his yard. he had his arm outstretched, and it was like pop, witnesses say when a basketball rolled into robert singletary's yard, he began yelling and cursing at the kids. which neighbors say wasn't unusual. but what happened next , when the father of one of the kids playing basketball came to talk to singletary was the guy was standing on his porch and the dad that had had words with him about, you know, saying stuff to kids. he had started walking back down the street and he started. the shooter just started running across the yard. shooting just shooting that man surprisingly got away unharmed. but then neighbors say that

singletary started walking in the direction of the other kids and parents on the street and began shooting. he started shooting. with my daughter standing right there, beside of him and several other kids. uh around them. father ran to protect his daughter. he looked at my husband dead in the face, and he said i'm gonna kill you. kinsley and her father were both shot while trying to run away. bullet grazed his mother's arm. she had a big big fragment of a bullet in her cheek, according to a man who lived at the same house. singletary's girlfriend rented a room there, and the 24 year old suspect begin staying with her a few weeks ago. i don't have too much interaction with them. i had no idea anything like this was going to go on. singletary was off. and yelling at kids about playing in the yard. like he just hated children. according to police, singletary was arrested on assault and kidnapping charges in december, accused of hitting a girlfriend in the head with a mini sledge hammer. he has not entered a plea. cnn has contacted his attorney, gaston county police chief put out a

statement letting the people of gaston county no. this sort of violence will not stand. they let all the kids sign it. this incident on the heels of a week already plagued by several gun violence, tragedies, leaving a community in utter fear. it's very scary. very scary. that's just nuts. how is the family doing tonight? you know anderson . they're dealing with a lot. obviously there's the trauma of the situation itself. but jamie white, the father, he's still in the hospital and, according to his mother and his wife, he's dealing with extensive injuries . he has injuries to his liver, his lung, his ribs and his abdomen. they say that he has a long road to recovery against still in the hospital tonight, as far as the six year old little girl, kinsey kinsley they say that she's traumatized, but she also wants to go back to school. she wants to see her friends and mostly at the moment, she and her three siblings are worried about their father's health. he did tell me

earlier today before singletary was caught that she was afraid to come home. that was something that other neighbors in the neighborhood also told me anderson that they've been afraid to sleep because he was out there again relief in that community tonight, knowing that , at least down in florida system hot gallagher appreciate it. thank you just ahead new information on the mass shooter who murdered five people. at a louisville bank last week. they need a loan back fast unit scotts turf builder rapid grass grass two times faster industry . the loan, given you a stronger lawns mill that's freedom, a fielder rapid grass today it's guaranteed. feed it long feed it . obviously we got termites. well, first thing is, you gotta know what they're biting on. yeah birchwood is perfect for the big ones this time of year, the gobbled up like a candy bar. nice. what's going on? what i told you to hire a pro. i did get a pro organ pro. i got this

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tonight about the 25 year old mass shooter who murdered five people at louisville bank last week where he was employed. police say he bought the ar 15 style rifle he used a week earlier at a local gun shop. 26 year old police officer who'd only graduated from the police academy 10 days earlier, officer nicholas wilt was one of two officers first on the scene. he was shot in the head, according to a report today by the louisville metro police foundation. he remains in critical but stable condition. he's also now fighting pneumonia. he was partnered that day with a training officer whose body camera footage was released by police were going to show you some of that footage revealing the moments. both officers arrived at the scene and how quickly they came under fire from the shooter. you won't see any bloodshed, but you will hear shots and that's disturbing. go, go, go, go, go! stop! stop! back up. back up! back up! back up! back up here. stop right there. jump.

the east side. reporting now from cnn correspondent omar jimenez. what have you learned about the shooter's alleged motive? well for starters to law enforcement sources are telling cnn that the shooter left extensive notes, one of which was found on the shooter's body after he was killed in a shootout with police and the notes show that at least part of the motivation here was to show how easy it is in the united states for someone going through a mental health crisis or something serious of that nature to get an assault weapon, and we know that this shooter purchased the air 15 used here. legally about a week before the shooting actually unfolded. now we've reached out to the family's attorney. we haven't heard back on that front, but we have heard previously that the family is trying to test the body for cte . we know some symptoms associated include problems with

impulse control. also some suicidal thoughts. while it's not just limited to ct, but those are some of those so yeah , so he's saying the shooter has said that part of the reason he did. the shooting was to show people how easy it is for somebody with a mental health issue to get a weapon, and he and the family has his justification for part of that's what these sources are telling us that that these notes are giving an indication that that is what he was trying to do to essentially try and make a point. and we know kentucky in particular, has one of the least restrictive gun laws in the entire country. you don't have to show much to actually go in and get an a r 15. and even in some parts of the country, they have red flag laws where you know if you're showing signs of potentially hurting yourself or others, someone could step in. take your weapon or stop you from purchasing it. it's not even clear that that would have helped here. because his family knew he had mental health. problems but even they have admitted they never thought he would take it to a level like

this 11 call, his mother said. well, i know he doesn't have a gun. obviously, he did at that point, yeah. minutes appreciate it. joining us now are sandy and lonnie phillips, founders of survivors and powered works to support survivors of violence and reduce violence. they started the organization after sandy's daughter, jessica and 11 . others were murdered in the mass shooting in a movie theater in aurora, colorado. in 2012, sandy lonnie. it's good to have you on what sandy? i'm wondering what your reaction was to this note allegedly left by the shooter. well anderson. it reminds us very much about what ? um the killer in our case had admitted he knew that he, um i mean, he had told his psychologist, his psychiatrist that he wanted to kill people, and he also admitted during the trials, um, that he wanted to be able. to test the waters when he went out to buy his first weapon

, so he went out to buy his first weapon. it was so easy, it emboldened him to go ahead and get everything else that he wanted to get to commit the crime. he saw it as a as a as a sign that he was supposed to move forward with his plan. so this kind of thing in america is happening all too often, and it is so much easier to get a weapon in this country than it is to get mental. health services. lonnie i mean, do you think the shooter admitting that this was a goal of his to prove how easy it was for him to purchase a gun? i mean, i don't know if that's mean it makes no sense that he would kill people in order to make that point. um, clearly, he according to his family has mental health issues. do you think it makes does it change? i'm what do you have you ever you ever heard of anything like this? no this is the first but it was his attempt to make

something count of this suicide. like op. he chose to go out this way to make a point. i guess he thought, well, maybe this will make a difference, so he it's a shame that these people have to die because his brain couldn't figure out how to do it any other way. so you know, this just shows that, um we're always here well, it's a mental health and mental health. you know? yeah. he was troubled. but if it was like our guy was troubled, that went through the trials that we found out. that he could have been stopped and so many ways that our lives was laws is some lacks. that he just went forward and this person that did this awful thing. had just proving a point. it's easy for anybody would that's even adjudicated to get a gun, even if he had about it legally and so many ways for him to get it illegally, and, sadly, we've made it so easy to do in america

that it will continue until we have nationals. federal laws to protect us from this happening again and in our own neighborhoods, cindy also, you know, we've seen now the number of shootings just this past week involving you know people, teenagers making innocent mistakes ringing the wrong doorbell by accident, opening up the wrong card door by accident, driving down you know a driveway and backing out realizing you've made a mistake and you hear this stuff about? well a good person with a gun, you know, can stop a bad person. i mean, i'm sure some people some people would have looked at the people who owned the guns who shot these kids and said, oh, they look like a good person with a gun. and that person has every right to have a gun. but i mean, it's stunning to see how quick people are to use their weapon that when they have it yeah, we've done a really good job in america, bringing up the fear factor that the other is going to get you or the other, uh,

will come to your door and rape and pillage your family. um we've done a really, really good job of that, and we've allowed the extremists on the far right to do that. um, so people are at the point where if they own a weapon there, almost anxious to be able to use it and not to defend themselves, but literally yeah. use lethal means for somebody knocking on the wrong door or pulling into the wrong driveway that could have been stopped so easily. had he only said to that kid. you know what address are you looking for? yeah and why are you here and it could have been cleared up in in a moment, and the kid could have said i'm here to get my brother . well they're your brothers aren't here. what address? are you looking for? he could have told him the address, and the man could have simply said,

well, you you're on the wrong street, and it would have been over. yeah and yet we're so anxious in this country, too. to pull a gun, intimidate others. fire that gun and take another life anderson this company because you've become an arsenal. for guns for the rest of the world. i mean, 400 million guns. 393 million people. so you know, the truth is, uh and it's supported by all the data, more guns, the more sandy and lonnie. the more difficult sandy lonnie. i appreciate your time tonight. thank you. so much of next. we are just getting new details as to why prosecutors have decided to drop criminal charges against actor alec baldwin. the fatal shooting in the rust movie set details ahead. stupid. interesting piece. let me bring in my expert. mm so many

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is, am i being charged with something? baldwin soon will no longer be accused after new mexico prosecutors plan to file a motion dismissing involuntary manslaughter charges against the actor, a move they call quote temporary pending further investigation. baldwin reacted on instagram, posting a photo of his wife saying, quote i owe everything i have to this woman into you, luke, his attorney, you were in the room when the lady wants the gun. yeah. baldwin admitted to holding the gun. it fired a bullet killing helena hutchins, the cinematographer on baldwin's film rust, but told police he did not know he was handed a loaded gun. baldwin resumes filming on rust this week with production moved to montana. this was baldwin last year. someone is responsible. for what happened and i can't say who that is, but i know it's not me. the dismissal is a win for baldwin's legal team, which challenged the motives and politics of one of the original prosecutors. it doesn't matter if he's a liberal democrat, and

i'm a conservative republican. my job has always been to prosecute crimes. in february, baldwin's lawyers filed a motion to remove special prosecutor andrea riebe, who at the time of the investigation, was running for state representative in new mexico. male later revealed in the new york times, reeves suggested being involved in the case. quote might help in my campaign both read and the district attorney who hired her ultimately recused themselves. their replacements dropped the charges against baldwin, his attorneys saying they quote encourage a proper investigation into the facts and circumstances of this tragic accident. is there live animal that's kept on set. no. never the film's weapons handler, hannah gutierrez. reed is now the sole defendant in the case. 18 months for involuntary manslaughter. her attorney says she will plead not guilty and that gutierrez read. quote has been emotional about the tragedy but has committed no crime. are we

really supposed to feel bad about you, mr baldwin, helena hutchins husband has been a vocal critic of baldwin, saying he should face charges. the idea that the person holding the gun. causing it to discharge is not responsible is absurd to me. but now justice for helena hutchins moves forward without a star defendant and she was great at her job and she died and she died. and that's that hurts me every day. in los joins me now, along with cnn legal analyst joey jackson, a criminal defense attorney. what are you learning about the new evidence? also the district attorney. obviously for many, this comes as a shock, but for alec baldwin's legal team, they have been aggressively trying to poke holes in these charges. you know, because a criminal trial is still set to take place with hannah gutierrez read early this summer with armor, the armor and her charges still stand. so what we know from a source is that the guy one was modified and they have new evidence. now the d a that

they need to look into and then their statement that they just released. they said that they have more interviews to do, but that baldwin isn't totally out of the woods just yet that although they are dismissing the charges for now, before they wrap up a few more interviews. does that make sense to you know, sense whatsoever? a lot of things don't make sense, first for the prosecutors to say that the prosecutors to say that it cases dismissed or it's not dismissed. if you re filing you contemplate that and you amend the charges you re file you move forward, and what's troubling to me is that now they're learning new evidence about the modification of a gun. you had several months to investigate. when you prosecute people you change in effect their lives. and this is not about oh, fan of alec baldwin. this is about a fan of just this in doing what's right and what's not right to your point. joey, let's back up and look at the special prosecutor andrea reeb's she stepped down and this was after alec baldwin's legal team filed a motion saying that she actually was holding two jobs at the same time that technically

under new mexico law, she couldn't and the new york times producing in a story this email that she sent saying that she thought that the case against alec baldwin would actually help her campaign. so if you're wondering, maybe why this evidence about the gun is just coming out now. well, maybe the motives potentially. we're not sounds. prosecutors just seem like they're in over their heads. cases have to be not about politics. and will it win me an election? they have to be about whether someone did something wrong and when you have a gun that's modified, and it would affect the operability of it. that becomes a problem. want to say that alec baldwin when i sat down with him in august, he has maintained with me with george stephanopoulos that he did not pull the trigger right? so if a gun was modified were they going to and trial show how the gun could have potentially gone off. but that does not answer the question about how live bullets got to the set to the issue of recklessness, by the way, and if you can establish that you can't establish your case, it's needs to be dismissed. that's what happened. jackson appreciate chloe melas as well, thank you

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