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truth about violent crime in our city, we will be the worst for it. if we say yeah, the police department is spending all this time and resources to rest but a case on and then the judges and the prosecutors say, you know what? we're going to let you out on electronic monitoring to wreak havoc again. and if we don't call that out every single day with these prosecutors and with the judges, many of whom don't live in our city and don't care about what's happening, then we are going to lose an opportunity to advocate for the victims and the witnesses and a resident who just want in deserve peace. we gotta say it. she was one of the four black mayors leading america's biggest cities who gathered at the african american mayors association conference. new york city mayor eric adams made a similar point. we need to be honest and forthright about the small numerical number of people

who are repeated offenders we have about 2000. people in our city that are extreme result of recidivists. they all they are arrested one day back on the street the next day carrying a gun committed another crime, and i refused to say just because you are black. i'm going to ignore that fact that you're committing crimes in our community. former new york governor andrew cuomo even waited in tweeting democrats when you ignore crime, you hurt the people you represent. it's no coincidence that these politicians are making these statements to counter the gop talking points that democrats are soft on crime. it's an issue that could pay off big at the ballot box. a gallup poll found that 54% of americans personally worry about crime a great deal. that's the highest number since 2001 on that issue. it's a perception prevalent in america . you've probably heard it from political commentators. maybe you believe it yourself. crime is soaring in american cities and democratic policies, like

bail reform are to blame. does that match with reality? well, here's the bottom line. these crime statistics they lend themselves to lots of sound bites, but the big picture is more nuanced. nationwide violent crimes spiked by more than 5% from 2019 to 2020. then it dropped by just 1% in 2021. during that same year murder jumped by more than 4% rape up 3.9% robbery and aggravated assault are the only two categories of violent crime that declined. as the philadelphia inquirer pointed out about this city, the homicide rate, while lower than in the past few years, remains at a pace that's near a three decade high. so yes, some violent crimes are on the rise. are the downtown areas of american cities, crime infested. crimes committed there. certainly get most of the attention. consider the images of marauding teens in chicago's magnificent mile just last weekend. well, the brookings

institution study crime statistics in new york, chicago , seattle and philadelphia and found that residents perception about where crime occurred was significantly warped. researchers found that increases in homicides were largely concentrated in disadvantaged neighborhoods that already had high rates of gun violence, along with significant histories of public and private sector, disinvestment, local data on property and violent crimes shows that in new york, philadelphia and chicago crime in the downtown area made up a small percentage of the overall increase of those crimes to be clear crimes way up in some areas. but the downtowns are being blown out of proportion here in philly crime still a big problem again from the enquirer in philadelphia property crimes such as retail theft and burglaries citywide up by 38% from 2019 to 2022, but in center city, our downtown area it accounted for less than 1% of the spike. violent crime increased to in. specifically,

homicides are way up. but again , the downtown accounted for a tiny proportion of such incidents in new york manhattan score accounted for 2% of the city's increase in violent crime 3% of its increase in property crime, extensive media coverage of the crimes that do occur in downtown areas may be having an impact on residents feeling that city centers. or crime ridden think of that age old local news mantra. if it bleeds, it leads. of course, crime in any part of the city is a problem. as the brookings institute study pointed out, pointing to the mismatch between where crime predominantly clusters and residents perceptions is not designed to delegitimize their concerns. or deny the impact that crime in other parts of the city can have on perceptions of downtown. rather it is to demonstrate the spatial distribution of crime has real implications for how local leaders can address it. okay. what about bail reform? is that

behind the increases in crime rates, there are lots of headlines and political grandstanding, claiming that to be the case that with fewer people paying bail, people charged with crimes are out on the streets, and they're committing more crimes when someone's been arrested and charged with a crime, a judge or a magistrate may decide it's necessary to get the money guarantee to ensure that person is going to come back for a court hearing. but by its very nature, the system discriminates against poor people who can't afford to pay bail. so even though you're supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, many who are charged but not yet convicted, they end up behind bars. therefore some states have recently moved to reduce or even eliminate cash bail for lesser offenses in 2019, new york state adopted a law ending cash bail in most cases involving misdemeanors and nonviolent felonies. it led to an immediate backlash. and although lori lightfoot didn't use the words, cash bail, it's clearly what she's talking about when she decried judges and prosecutors

who let people out on electronic monitoring to wreak havoc again. if somebody seek musters the courage to come forward and identify the person who was just shut up their neighborhood and then sees pookie walking boulders day back on the street two days later. what does that say to them? you're telling them that the criminal justice system doesn't care about victims and witnesses. do you agree? i want to know what you think. please go to smerconish .com and vote on this week's poll question. do you agree or disagree with chicago mayor lori lightfoot, who said as democrats if we don't speak the truth about violent crime in our cities will be the worst for it. joining me now to discuss is jocelyn simonson, professor of law and associate dean for research and scholarship at the brooklyn law school. she's written a book. it'll come out this august, and it's titled radical acts of justice how ordinary people are dismantling mass in car. saray

shin professor simonsen respond if you would please. to what you heard from mayor lightfoot. does she have the right answer. good morning. thank you for having me. uh what i do agree with mayor lightfoot about is that public safety is important and taking care of survivors of harm are important. but i disagree entirely with her characterization of what bail reform does and even what prosecution and incarceration do and i should add that the people of chicago disagreed as well. if we're thinking about perceptions of crime and safety lori lightfoot recently lost an election. so someone who is saying that public safety shouldn't always mean arrest, bail and prosecution. what is the data show? what does the data show? if you get rid of cash bail, you let people out on the street who otherwise wouldn't be out on the street. do they commit more crimes? no they don't. in fact, the what you'll notice when these mayors are making announcements about

bail and crime is that they're not able to use statistics that link bail reform to an increase in so called violent crime. and in fact, if you look at major jurisdictions around the country where there has been bail reform in recent years, there is no such trend. um, if new york state, for example. professor i made the point at the outset that the data is i think pliable can be used easily to advance any kind of a case you'd like to. so having said that. here i go. isn't it true that the doggy data the doj data and i'll put something up on the screen and i'll read it to you because you might not be able to see it, but it shows that financial bonds like cash bonds have a lower rate of pretrial misconduct. then when someone is released on their personal reconnaissance, in other words, there is it appears a relationship between misconduct awaiting trial if there's no cash bail that has been utilized. i can't see this

assistance you're talking about and whether they're federal or based on jurisdiction to jurisdiction, but i can tell you more broadly. what's that? federal. federal ah well, the federal bill system is different than the bail system state by state. um and in fact, in federal court, um it's much harder to keep someone in jail pending trial simply for the fact that they're poor, so those statistics aren't going to represent what's happening around the nation. but when you use that phrase of engaging in misconduct, we have to think about what we're measuring. it doesn't say that it's connected to people being harmed, and it doesn't say that it's connected to people not coming back to court. over time versus, say, missing one court date. there's a headline from the daily mail. i'll read it to you because i get that you're not able to see my monitor put that up on the

screen exclusive. it says suspected felons have walked free in half of cases since alvin bragg took office, double the rate in 2018, as new york's lacks bail laws allow city's worst criminals to roam the streets, professor simon said. it doesn't say and they're committing crimes. but hell if you look at that headline, right, it'll scare you to death. you got all these bad folks who who are out there who probably shouldn't be respond to that if you can do it in 30 seconds sure . i think that headline says a lot and exactly what you're saying. there's a key word in that headline with it, which is suspected felons. these are people who have been arrested are presumed innocent, pending guilt, and the headline does not say that anything bad happens. instead it's evoking the same image that mayor lightfoot a vote, which has no basis in statistical effect, and what it's not doing. is describing all this so called suspected felons who were able to go home

keep their jobs stay with their families, which studies show makes them less likely to be rearrested in the future. professor simon said. thank you for being here. appreciate your expertise. thank you for having me. social media reaction. what do we have gang, put it up there and let's check it out. if you don't want to be in jail, don't commit the crime right observer. i think there's an are missing there. but i think observer of facts the professor would say, but you haven't been convicted, right? i mean, we're holding you shy of having been convicted of a crime. i get it. it's a complicated issue. i agree with what i heard from eric adams about the rate of recidivism. i remember my friend the late great john timothy. he was the chief here in philly. he was the number two in new york. he was the chief in miami. i remember him saying to me, we've got 5000 individuals. in the philadelphia area, and they're committing the lion's share of the crime. and when we let them out, they commit more crime. but i want to know what all of you think. please go to my website .com and

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process, and that supreme court decision will likely have an impact far beyond the walls of a doctor's officer pharmacy, a newly released gallup poll finds reproductive health laws are also influencing prospective and current students on their decision where to enroll or stay enrolled in school, nearly three quarter of currently enrolled college students. report that reproductive health laws in the state that they attend school or at least somewhat important, while the smaller but still significant majority of unenrolled students between the ages of 18 and 59 also say reproductive health laws or at least somewhat important in their decision to enroll in a specific school. joining me now is mohammed yunus, he's gallup's editor in chief and editor of the week in charts. how nice to see you again. so now if i'm a perspective applicant at a school, i want to know the ranking. you know? do they have my major? i want to know what's the social life like and i want to know what's the state's abortion policy? that's unfortunately the state we're in

today. a lot of what we find in our work with lumina foundation on what keeps it currently enrolled students, including class and also people who aren't enrolled, considering going to an institution of higher education, and it's not just a four year college. really. all institutes of higher education are saying that this is an important factor for them and considering whether to stay in school or whether to go to where they're considering. and the people who will say it's an important factor are overwhelmingly saying they're looking for environments. that have less restrictions, not more restrictions to reproductive health services. do you see this among not only democrats, which i would anticipate and expect, but also among republicans. do you see it among both men and women? yes, we do. and what's really important to keep in mind is this is also happening in an environment of declining enrollment rates that predate covid. so if i'm leading a university in one of the states that just happened to be passing or even just considering passing

restrictions on reproductive health services. this is potentially a really big challenge for my enrollment rates as i'm already seeing them decline and trying to get them going up, so it is a very obviously serious and nuanced issue. but when it comes to higher education, the overrepresentation also of women and younger americans in that population. this is a really important issue for them. i wonder if it will extend to weed. probably catching you cold . but this thought just occurred to me if i'm going to consider the reproductive right policy of a state before i apply to a particular school. i wonder i wonder if they're also thinking. what's the status of weed? is it legal or only gle? illegal it is and you are catching me off guard but never with weed. what's fascinating is like abortion, but much more dramatically. attitudes about the moral acceptability of the use of marijuana have a stra na mickley changed in the united states just legalization. across states now i think over 20

states have now taken some measure. to enable recreational access. so yes, but i think even less so because it's um less of a central mental health related issue and physical health related issue, which is actually one of the most important factors that we find in our work with lumina foundation that causes students to pull out of school, which we call stopping out. of class, so it's another issue that's out there, but i think abortion is a much more critical and central part of that decision for young people. mohammed final 30 seconds. big picture. where are we? as a nation on the broad subject of reproductive rights, and it is so important to put those perceptions of students in the broader context. we're living in a moment right now, where attitudes, generally speaking, are shifting towards wanting to see less restrictions towards reproductive health services. now you can say that and it said

with a lot of nuance. there are still certain people, obviously on both sides of the old divide here in the united states. i feel very strongly about that. but i'll give you a couple of statistics. that kind of highlight right now. 48% of americans are dissatisfied with the nation's policies regarding abortion in general. that's a 20 point rise since 2021 again that's a 20 point rise in two years. that's something you don't usually see with these kinds of topics. people who identify as pro choice it's at a relative higher here in the united states at 55% and we did see that jump up after roe v. wade was overturned, six in 10 americans. and since it's an american issue for the ds to motivate their base. yes absolutely. and it's become more of a focus for people on the left side of the spectrum. but keep in mind. six in 10 americans overall thought that overturning roe v. wade would be a bad idea, so we have a very popular in terms of popular opinion, unpopular decision by

the supreme court that's also dropped dramatically in its approval ratings with the public , so this is an issue of public has zeroed in on mohammad yunus. thank you appreciate it. thanks. i have a poll of my own at smerconish .com. right now, go and vote on this week's survey question. do you agree or disagree with chicago mayor lori lightfoot, who said as democrats if we don't speak the truth about violent crime in our cities, we will be the worst for it. up ahead. elon musk removed the longstanding verification system for twitter accounts on thursday, and immediately the platform was swamped with imposters. he began re verifying certain users like the pope and lebron james, but the platform has now been thrown into some chaos. is the damage already done? plus cnn now reporting that there will be a meeting next week between hunter biden's lawyers, a us attorney. at a senior doj official this in the wake of an irs whistleblower, claiming the president's son was afforded special treatment is

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blue check mark is now officially a sad loser without a life. friend of this program n y. u professor scott galloway tweeted. the blue check is now the new maga hat. almost immediately, the platform was swamped with impersonations of accounts, including those of government entities. new york city is no longer verified. official government account tweeted thursday evening. the following this is an authentic twitter account representing the city of the new york city government. later, an impostor account with the same image and a slight variation of the user name replied. no, you're not. this account is the only authentic twitter account representing and run by the new york city government. the platform had to scramble to re re verify certain high profile figures such as pope francis and must decided to pay for several blue checks for celebrities, among them lebron james, william shatner and stephen king king. no fan of musk tweeted this clarification my twitter account says i have subscribed to twitter blue. i haven't my twitter account says i've given a phone number. i haven't

joining me now is samuel woolley , professor at the university of texas is school of journalism and media and program director of its center for media engagement. he's also the author of manufacturing consensus, understanding propaganda in the era of automation and anonymity . doctor wooly the vanity aspect of this celebrities and do they continue to have their blue checkmark? is getting a lot of attention. but the more serious aspect seems to be the one that i showed, for example, with new york city, right government entities that need to keep the public informed, and now the public confusion can easily rise. that's right. yeah, twitter has long been a space where people go to get breaking news. they go for information during crises, for instance, natural disasters and so it's really important that people are able to get verified. trustworthy information on twitter. otherwise what we have is that the sentence to chaos i mean, i treat it like a wire service to the point you just made when there's when there's a

breaking news story. i'm looking at my twitter account because i want to see what all the news sources are reporting. and i want to see what individuals whose opinion i respect or maybe not respect are saying about it to keep myself informed. what's going to happen to that ability now? i think that ability has gone out the window, at least for the time being. we see some changes being made retrospectively back towards giving some people blue check marks again. however there's also gray check marks, which to no government authorities and those are being, uh, sort of given in a haphazard way to different authorities. many don't have them. and so for the time being that wire service sort of use of twitter is kind of going down the drain for you as well as me. i use it that way as well. so what is he up to? i mean, i regard the guy as a mad genius. i am. i am not a critic of elon musk i his ingenuity is something that i have great admiration for, and i think he

makes a wonderful car. but what's his game here? because this seemed also predictable that there would be a revolt against him. did he really think that the $8 revenue or the $1000 from media sources or from businesses that it was going to enhance his bottom line? i'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. musk's argument was that there was sort of a class based system on twitter where if you were popular, or if you knew someone that you could get a blue check mark, and so he took away that that system, he said. he wanted to make it a system where anyone could get a blue check mark. the problem with that is that in my research, i've studied propagandists and people that spread disinformation. what we know is that propagandists are willing to spend a little bit of money to get their their message out there. and so right now what you have is, unfortunately, a lot of people buying blue check marks, who are in fact working to deceive other users. that's the concern that i have. speaking of social media, let me put something on the screen. i'll read it aloud and we can

both respond to it. together what do we have? jordan's pop that up blue checks were nothing more than the ultimate vanity plate for the culturally elite. now there's somehow threatened because ordinary folks can get one. i'll go first. dr willie. my response is to say no, it has nothing to do with me as one who had a blue check, resenting, you know common folk. from having a blue check. it's that someone's going to be able to go out and imitate a person with a profile and fraudulently act like they are them. how would you respond to that person? i'll be honest. i always thought there was issues with the blue checkmark system in the sense that it wasn't clear how they were given out that being said it needs to be made more systematic, but not less. what we need is more verification for trusted entities like news organizations , journalists and other entities that are delivering us our news rather than making it this open , open season on blue check marks where anyone can buy it, including propaganda is potentially including foreign

adversaries that are attempting to manipulate public any of the united states. during various crises and elections as we've seen in the past, right? i mean, i think the same thing. think about russia's invasion of ukraine and how putin might seek to game this process or the upcoming 2024 election where there are a whole host of ripple effects. thank you, dr willie appreciate your time. thanks for having me. please make sure you're answering this week's poll question its work on it dot com by the way, registered for the free newsletter. when you're there comes out every morning. i handpicked all the links and it's free and worthy. do you agree or disagree with chicago mayor lori lightfoot? who said as democrats if we don't speak the truth about violent crime in our cities, we will be the worst for it still to come after a lot of will he or won't he? president biden is said to be announcing his reelection bid tuesday via video. only 47% of democrats think he should run. meanwhile, ron desantis, who has yet to announce finds himself rapidly falling behind former president donald trump.

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be running again in 2024 when he will be nearly 82 on election day. meanwhile on the gop side of the aisle, florida governor ron desantis has suffered a series of setbacks in his as yet undeclared challenge to former president donald trump losing not just donors and endorsements but also likely primary voters in a new wall street journal poll in a head to head match desantis has fallen from a 14 point advantage in december to a 13 point deficit. he now trails trump 51 to 38% joining me now cnn senior political analyst ron brownstein, who is also senior editor of the atlantic, where he recently wrote this piece, the gop s abusive relationship with trump. ron, you did alvin bragg just single handedly reversed the standing on the republican side of the aisle. it's a really interesting question. i don't know. i don't think single handedly. i think it was moving in that direction already. it's obviously premature to just, you know, call this fight. you know this far before anyone has

voted, but what has to be ominous for the other republicans is how similar this looks to the way donald trump march the nomination in 2016, you know, in 2016 trump divided the republican party along a new axis that ultimately became the same access to divided the general election along and that's education. the evangelical verse not didn't matter that much ideology moderate versus conservative didn't matter that much. trump won because he dominated among republicans without a college degree, winning about half of them an incredible number in such a crowded field, and that allowed them to survive, even though two thirds of the republicans with a college degree wanted someone else they could never unify around. who that someone else would be. well, here we are. michael 78 years later, and the republican electorate because of the changes that trump has imposed is probably even more tilted than it was. then towards his side. it's even more heavily shaped by those non college voters. and once again as in these, you know, in these polls we're seeing he is winning about half of them. still only winning

about a third or a quarter of those college republicans, but he's basically reassembling the coalition that worked for him the first time other democratic side of the aisle president biden expected to announce as i said on tuesday, rfk jr got into the race earlier this week, i was surprised by a poll that showed among biden voters from the 2020 cycle. rfk jr starts out with double digits. could he ever get biden on a debate stage? no and i don't think he would really get double digits in the end. you know, biden is looking at a lot of indicators that historically have been red warning lights on the dashboard or maybe red warning lights now on the touch screen for an incumbent president. i mean, his approval rating is usually at 45% of below. you have three quarters or more of the country, saying the economy is only unfair poor shape. and as you note, there is a large percentage of voters 60. or more who say they don't want him to run again and all those are going to be challenges after he,

you know, really announces the second term on tuesday, but and there is a but what we saw in 2022 was an unusually maybe in an unprecedentedly large number of voters who said they were disappointed in biden's performance or disenchanted with the economy still voted for democrats. anyway because they viewed the republican alternative as too extreme as symbolized on the issue of abortion. and michael that was especially true in the handful of swing states that are likely to decide. 2024 arizona, michigan, pennsylvania and wisconsin. three quarters or more of voters said the economy was in bad shape and democrats won the governorships in those states anyway, in some cases easily because again they did not view the republican alternative is acceptable, and that is kind of the wind. in the sales. i think for biden, whatever his standing with the public overall ron. here comes the social media comment. i'll read it aloud so that we can both respond to it. pop it up

there and let me take a take a peek. here we go. desantis won't even mention trump by name, and he's getting slammed by him. in the end, ron will not run. whoa! what do you think of that? ron desantis teen well, the first part is definitely correct , right? i mean the clear lesson of the last six months is that trump is still unequivocally the biggest figure in the republican party. the vast majority of republican voters despite everything that happened, january 6th, you know, racist comments. chaos in the cabinet still believe his presidency was more a success than not, and that means you are not going to dislodge him unless you give voters a much firmer, more clear reason than his opponents. have been willing to do so far. i don't know if desantis blinks in the end, he certainly you know, you look inside that wall street journal poll. he's still has some assets in this race. against trump, but i think there is no question that the message of the past six months is that if you kind of tiptoe around the

issue of whether republicans can or should re nominate trump he is going to steamroll you. he is a big believer in that mike tyson, you know, saying everyone has a plan to get punched in the face. quick thought from me. he's 44. so you say by biden standards, he's got three more decades where he could run for president. on the other hand, if he does blink, people will look back and say, well, don't you remember what happened in 2023? it can't be him, ron. it's great to see you. thank you for being here back, right? great point. great point, ron, always with the institutional recollection. that's why we love him. still to come. is hunter biden in hot water, the cnn exclusive reporting on an upcoming meeting between his lawyers, a u. s attorney and a senior doj official, elie honig is here. how to grow more vibrant flowers . step one. feed them with miracle gro, shake and feed. that's it. miracle gro o to grow

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investigation and i have carried through on my pledge, he said. joining me now is cnn senior legal analyst elie honig, former assistant u. s attorney in the southern district of new york. a former federal prosecutor and also the author of the book untouchable. how powerful people get away with it, ellie. how unusual is such a meeting? not unusual at all, michael. in fact, it's standard fare when somebody is under investigation , and it comes time where they might get indicted. it is very common for defense lawyers to request and almost always be granted this kind of meeting they come in. they pitched the prosecutors and they always of course, say here's why it would be a mistake to charge my client , michael. the other thing about these meetings, they do tend to happen towards the very end of the process at that make or break moment of decision. why is this taking so long? if it's true that the investigation began to enter about 2018? is it really that complicated a case oh, amen to that, michael. the pace of this case is, i would

say glacial, but i don't want to insult glaciers. i mean, there is absolutely no reason that this case should take five years. this is, by the way, not an investigation of the laptop. as you said, this is a tax case relating to an individual, and this is a case involving an obscure firearms statute. so this should not be a five year investigation. this should not be a one year investigation. this should be a few months investigation. my best surmise is charging or not charging hunter biden. and is the ultimate darned if you do darned if you don't situation either way, you're going to infuriate a large swath of the population, and i think prosecutors need to get over it and make a call. charge or don't charge. do your job. well i've made the same observation about the so called obstruction of justice investigation pertaining to donald trump and the documents at mar-a-lago. you know on that isolated instance i don't know why that's so complicated. and ellie. the concern that i have is that you know, it's like, game on. here i am. i'm talking about desantis and trump. and i'm talking about biden and i'm

talking about rfk jr in the polling, and the rnc is already selecting its debates. how far into this process do we get before the doj says well, we can't do anything now. this is an absolutely legitimate and important criticism of the prosecutors on the hunter biden case of the prosecutors who are looking at donald trump, all of whom took at least two years plus to do anything now, here we are. it's getting into the middle of 2023. we've got declared candidates, and now you're going to get into the realm where no matter what happens, there's going to be this realm of is this political . these questions asked. that's not good for those cases. that's not good for the public acceptance of doj impartiality, and i blame all these prosecutors who, frank we have been dragging their feet whether it comes to hunter biden or donald trump. yeah lots of shoes potentially are about to drop. ellie. thank you so much for being here. wish we had more time. thanks, michael. all right. still got more of your best and worst social media comments, and the final result. did you vote yet at smerconish

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chicago mayor. i'm not surprised that that was the winning argument. i am surprised by the margin 97 to 3 with nearly 30,000 people voting chicago mayor lori lightfoot, who said his democrats if we don't if we don't speak the truth about violent crime in our cities, we're going to be the worst forward. by the way. i can't help but wonder. if that had been her campaign mantra. which you have had a different outcome in that recent mayoral election, social media what do we have? this came in during the course of the program. i think you're missing something about crime in big cities. big cities like new york are remarkably safe. look at how rough things are in mid size cities in the middle of the country crime in my hometown of st louis victor it's the big cities that have gotten all the attention. that's why that was my focus today, but i think that the data bears you out that there's crime all over, including in rural america. there's also this misperception of the level of violence in the downtown areas in comparison to the remainder of the cities, and the data just does not bear that out. here's more social media. reaction. what do we have? i

worked in jails for years. it was not unusual for someone to be held for months for minor crimes for less than black $100 staff even talked about taking up collections. yeah, that's heartbreaking to me. i'm ready. i'm ready to reimagine. incarceration in the united states. i'm game for that discussion. especially for the hypothetical that you present of somebody where it's nonviolent. it's 100 bucks keeping them in. i don't know if that's true, but if that's true, that's outrageous. but i'm not ready to reimagine incarceration for violent offenders. you know those like my buddy john, timothy said, or the guys who are and they are guys committing all the crime? no not for them. hey nine o'clock this week. i'm guest hosting here on cnn. and i hope that you'll be watching monday through thursday this week. nine p.m. have a great day. i live in the