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. top of the morning. our top movies at the box office. >> they're counting on us. >> no pressure. >> the super mario brothers movie is number one. here's number two -- that's the horror film "evil dead rise." and number three -- >> are you going to give me the location? >> that's too dangerous. >> that is the covenant. all right. thank you for joining me this monday morning. cnn this morning starts right
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now. it's monday. good morning. we're so glad you're with us. >> oh, yeah. the team is reunited. let's get started with five things to know for this monday, april 24th. a daring special operations rescue of american diplomats and their families from wore torn sudan. 16,000 american citizens still remain in sudan. most of them are duel nationals. >> president biden set to name his campaign manager for re-election effort. julia chavez rodriguez. she is a senior adviser right now. the faa investigating a possible bird strike that caused an american airlines flight to catch fire. the plane landed safely. no one hurt. >> you better hurry up. the bed, bath & beyond coupons are not going to be good for much longer. the company announcing it filed
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for bankruptcy and now is starting to wind down the operations. also. a-list owners ryan reynolds hugging after the big win that clenched the team's promotion. "cnn this morning" starts right now. technically, we have six things. poppy ran a marathon yesterday. >> half. >> half. >> i can barely walk. >> look at me. don't i look -- you look great. >> that's my best for an emily. we ran together. she kept me going. i wanted to show myself i could do it. i can't walk. my birkenstocks are behind the set. i've never been so sore in my life. but it's done. >> lots of ibuprofen.
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>> a hot bath, et cetera. i didn't walk. remember. i told you friday, i didn't think i would finish. i ran the whole time. next to emily. >> did you have a good vacation? >> i did. i had a great time in alabama with family. >> good to be back. >> you look very rested. >> vacation, what is that like? >> right? >> we do begin with very serious news on sudan. american diplomats and families evacuated from sudan in a daring rescue operation. u.s. officials say special forces swooped in to sudan's wore-torn capital to pick up embassy staff. the pentagon says this rescue mission was fast and it was clean. and u.s. troops were on the ground for less than an hour in the capital city. this is a photo of anthony b blinken watching the operation unfold. two rival military factions are fighting. some citizens were able to get out of the country on french military planes. we're told though still about
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16,000 u.s. citizens are in sudan at this moment. many of them are duel nationals. so we begin this hour with our senior international correspondent sam kiley. he's where this rescue operation was launched. good morning to you. look, the u.s. state department saying fast and clean. what more do we know about this mission? >> it was effectively the vanguard of the wide number of international rescue mission that's are continuing at pace the security situation continues to collapse. not just in khartoum, the city's capital, but really across the country. this was all focused out of the hub, not only for the u.s. operation but really for the international operations. there have been other rescued organized by the british out ofcy press. the americans led the field taking british special forces in as they went in to take out this 70 plus americans, their
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dependents from the embassy and handful of foreigners. they flew for some 800 miles at about, you know, just tree top level. very low flight. very, very slow in the hercules aircraft. they need to keep it low to avoid any ground fire, make sure they surprise any dangerous elements on the ground. they did not take any fire going in or coming out. special forces were on the ground for less than an hour. and the important thing is that these large number of americans remain in the country. many of them duel nationals. but they are being advised to try to work with the other international organizations and principally nation states that are trying to get their people out. there are now a lot of focus on trying to put road convoys together from khartoum, the 500 miles, 800 kilometers, a very large convoy organized you about the unite the nations. they are running some convoys of
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some 70 vehicles. the problem is people have to join the convoys with their own vehicles, food, fuel and water. all of those essential items are in extremely short supply and dwindling rapidly as the security situation continues to disintegrate. and fighting there isn't between two sides on different sides. effectively separated by formal front line, if you like. it's all over the place. it's a very messy situation in khartoum. that has spread around the country. the air fields around the country are also insecure, poppy. >> we just saw sam as you were reporting all the video of children that are stuck in the literal crossfire and being unloaded into port sudan a lot. a lot of these are families. thank you for being there and for that reporting. >> also happening now, florida governor ron desantis is in japan meeting with japanese prime minister. the japanese foreign ministry says the two exchanged views on regional affairs. he hopes that desantis' visit will lead to further strengthening of the japan-u.s.
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and japan-florida relationship. this is being billed as essentially an international trade mission in partner with an economic development organization out of florida. of course, the republican presidential hopeful has yet to formally enter the 2024 race. reminded reporters of that when he was asked how he stacks up against former president trump. >> are you following trump's numbers? >> i'm not a candidate. we'll see if and when that changes. >> we will see if and when that changes. the trip is also seen as a way for desantis to burnish the foreign policy critics. he's been criticized as lacking and he spoke at the convention in utah over the weekend is on the first leg of what is said to be a four country overseas trip. the governor and first lady, casey desantis, are going to follow their time in japan with visits to south korea, israel and the united kingdom. >> president biden and team of advisors are finalizing flhis 24
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bid. this is ahead of a release likely happening tomorrow. our reporter is live at the white house this morning. what do we know about this announcement? there are a lot of questions of when he was going to do it? earlier this year, later this summer? now may happen tomorrow. >> good morning. president biden spent the weekend at camp david, a weekend intended to go through some of the final details regarding a possible 2024 campaign. even as the president's team is working towards that announcement which is likely to come tomorrow in a video, the president is facing serious headwinds when it comes to public perception about whether or not he should run. chief among the concerns are the president's 80--year-old age. if you take a look at a recent poll out from nbc news, the majority of the american public does not believe biden should seek a second term. within his own democratic party,
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half of democrats do not believe the president should run for re-election. now, if you look at the concern that's these voters have, nearly half of them say that his age is a major issue. president biden is 80 years old. he would be 86 at the end of the second term if he were to win. but his advisors believe they can overcome these concerns about his age. his allies pointed to his records and say that the voters ultimately will side with him when they look at the alternatives. but it's very clear that the questions about his age will present a very steep challenge for the president as he tries to get voters onboard for a second term. >> yeah, of course, with any re-election announcement comes a campaign. what are we learning about who is running president biden's campaign? >> democratic sources have told us that the president is expected to name julie chavez rodriguez. she is one of the most senior aides at the white house, the director of the office of
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intergovernmental affairs. she works with state and local officials to try to implement some of the president's agenda across the country. she is also the granddaughter of famed labor leader cesar chavez and also if she is one of the few latinas who will be running a presidential campaign. she has earned the trust of president biden and his most senior team and would be tasked with running this campaign hand in hand with the senior advisors here at the white house. >> yeah. of course, biden has chavez's bust in the oval office as well. thank you so much. >> a widely used abortion pill will remain available for now. the supreme court is protecting access to the pill while the appeal process plays out. that could take months. a big win for the biden administration though. the supreme court's ruling on friday comes weeks after a trump appointed judge in texas suspended the pill's fda approval which could take it off the market after being available for more than 20 years. we turn now to senior supreme
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court analyst. what is next? how long could this drag out? >> good morning, don, poppy and caitlin. we could see initial action right away. we got briefs filed on wednesday in a lower court. a new orleans-based fifth circuit which will hear the merits of this case. and they're scheduled to hold a hearing on may 17th. really, we could see action from the regional appellate court within a matter of months. but it will not get back to the u.s. supreme court for, i would say, several months at minimum without a resolution for a full year just because of the way the supreme court works and the recess they'll be taking this summer. don, poppy and caitlyn this is going to hang over americans for many months. this is the main way that people access abortion is through medication abortion. this a key pill as part of that protocol. >> does this ruling, joan,
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suggest anything about the couco courts more broadly? >> i think so. the supreme court is clearly taking a breath right now. last june 24th, it completely rolled back constitutional rights for abortion but says matter is now up to the states. they've had so much pushback from that decision. public confidence in the court has really been dropping. there's been turmoil within the court. they're way behind on their decisions for this session. and think what you're seeing here, don, is a modest shift that might be more in sync with america. i want to caution on modest, this is still a 6-3 conservative court. they're still moving to the right. i think we're still going to see many rulings by the end of the term that show just a sense of urgency on the part of conservatives to move in that direction. but for now, on reproductive rights, they stepped back a bit. >> all right.
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we'll be watching. thank you so much. appreciate that. what's really interesting about this, i think, this is still the roberts' court. he wanted to move slowly on this issue and they did not with dobbs overturning roe versus wait. this is an indication of the roberts' court. >> and the dissent was interesting. he was arguing there were bad faith arguments being made by the biden administration. but obviously what we've seen from the other side is they went to this court in texas knowing they were going to get this judge and the anti-abortion views. >> yeah. >> and politically, it's something that is causing consternation, especially among republicans because they're not sure -- some are saying this should go to the states. others are, you know -- >> some are saying both things at the same time. >> yeah. >> you got nancy mason later. >> yeah. >> also we're following this closely. the police officer shot and killed dante wright is released from prison today. how the community and dante's
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that shooting. it happened during phil's little sister's 16th birthday party. her brother saved her life by pushing her to the ground. he was going to attend jacksonville college on a football scholarship. over the weekend, a celebration of life was set and today services are set for the two. police arrested six us is inspection facing murder charges. local murder charges report all but one unnamed 15-year-old are set to appear in court tomorrow. the former police officer who shot and killed dante wright in minneapolis said to leave prison today. kim potter said she accident ll a grabbed her gun instead of taser when she shot wright two years ago. a warning this may be difficult to watch. >> a jury convict the potter of
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manslaughter in december of 2021. she's being released after serving about 16 months of her two-year sentence. shooting happened nearly a year after george floyd's death and led todays of protests in brooklyn center, a suburb of minneapolis. adrian, good morning. what are you hearing from dante wright's family ahead of potter's release? >> don this is a family still struggling to find peace, especially katie wright that, is dante's mother. she told me following the stress of the trial and her son's death, she survived a stroke but that stroke temporarily left her vision blurred and also left her unable to read. she also told me during our last conversation some say i should forgive to be at peace. how can i? i am so angry. she, and she's referring to kim potter, is going to be able to watch her kids have kids and be able to touch them.
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i am always scared. i am going to forget my son's voice. it gave us some sense of peace knowing she would not be able to hold her sons. i can't hold my son. we have to look at all the good. she will never be able to hurt anybody as a police officer ever again. and knowing that gives this wright family some comfort. for those of you who may not remember, dante wright was killed during the middle of the derek chauvin trial. he was convicted for the killing of george floyd. brooklyn center is right outside of minneapolis, about a ten-minute drive. wright was pulled over for expired registration and one of these. it's a car freshener. it was hanging from the rearview mirror. meanwhile, the officer, as you mentioned at the top of this hour, don, thought she pulled her taser instead she pulled her gun shooting and killing dante wright.
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potter, who had 26 years of experience as a police officer, will be released -- she's expected to be released to day from prison. her attorney tells me she will not return to minnesota. don? >> thank you, adrian. also this morning, new polling shows that americans don't want president biden or former president trump to run in 2024. so what do voters want? we'll talk about that next. and if you have 190,000 lying around, you could be the next owner of this remote scottish island. bar loco island is 25 acres and is completely uninhabited. the nearest town is six miles away. no buildings, no development, no traffic. just lush green grass and silence. >> sounds amazing. >> see you guys later. i'm headed there. can you imagine? that sounds like heaven to me. >> you need a boat to get there.
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running for president but he is meeting win the national leaders, an unusual step for a governor, ron desantis of florida who was in japan this morning meeting with the japanese prime minister as you see there. first lady of florida casey detan ' desantis meeting the prime minister. they hope it will lead to the relationship. this comes as desantis is expected to visit south korea, israel and the united kingdom. the trip meant to burnish his foreign policy credentials. joining us is the political commentator for spectrum news. he is trying to rebuff the criticism he got when he made comments about ukraine. people saying he doesn't deal with foreign policy. but he is still being asked about trump and polls. he was asked about it while there. he made this face and said, i'm not a candidate yet. we'll see if that changes. >> what else can he say? that is changing before our very eyes. he has real problems in florida. he chose to go overseas. clearly, he has eyes set on the
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white house. he's going to do what governors in his position have to do which is show they are not going to make a fool of themselves on the international stage. so, there's a lot to lose. not a lot to gain. does he have a fully flushed out foreign poll i of course he doesn't. does he have anything to say that is going to be meaningful and move the needle even for businesses in his state? no, that's not what governors do. so he's in a sort of very fraught position. i think that sort of encapsulates it. no one would be talking with him in tokyo or anywhere else if he was not running. >> he wouldn't say i'm not a candidate. that's what's happening here. let's talk about the democrats. new poll. biden -- excuse me, president biden is supposedly going to announce tomorrow with a video. but there are some in the new polls that shows how americans are feeling about biden and trump's re-election. 70% say biden shouldn't run again. 60% say trump shouldn't run. so what do the polls say to you
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about the mood of the country? >> what it says to me is the mood of the country is cranky. they would like something else to happen. actually, if you look at the president's approval numbers, they almost exactly in that same poll track with approval, disapproval on the economy. people are worried. things are -- we're in a period of transition. hundreds of thousands of businesses went under during the pam. s -- pandemic. some are roaring back. a lot of the regional and secretarial rejuvenation is really being felt. on the other hand, you have this inflation which needs to be tamed in the way that you tame it is the federal reserve raises interest rates. so, now you can't buy a house. things are a lot more expensive. now you're spending power is going down. i think people are in a very sort of unsettled mood. and, you know, given that, they would like to have something different. what i'm reminded of is one of the favorite lines from president biden. he says don't compare me to
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theal the almighty, compare me to the alternative. >> is it the snen it is trump and biden or the situation of americans? do you see what i'm asking? >> she would rather have chicken than caviar. >> are they more satisfy philadelphia it were two others or just about the sort of -- >> i think -- the predicament that people are feeling. >> i think people want a change from politics or the political choices they v again, you know, like you said, gee, i'm in mood for a steak. we have chicken or fish. i don't want chicken or fish. i want something else. i want to go in a different direction. i want to break out of the old politics. you know, this is really what lies behind i think this question about the president's age which is not just him personally, well, those are very serious concerns, but i think this is larger question about when do we get this older generation off the stage and let some of the younger people who
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make up, you know, a flurplural of the country, when do our people start to emerge? and there is this feeling that in terms of the economy, the social space, certainly in the politics, there is an older generation that just won't get out of the way. >> and the senate, too. >> oh, yeah. absolutely. >> all over the hills of capitol hill. speaking of capitol hill, kevin mccarthy is saying he is confident he has the votes this week to -- the republican votes to get what they propose when it comes to the -- raising the debt limit. do you think he has the votes? >> no. i think that's what he has to say to the caucus to convince them to hold together. convince them this is not a political suicide mission. i am having a hard time imagining from what we've seen so far that what they're going to present will not be dead on arrival in the senate when the democrats have control. but is he going to put forward something that will hold together the caucus? i suppose he will. it will be a lot of deep cuts. it's going to put a lot of people in a position of having to cast really unpopular votes. a lot of the marginal members,
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people would won in pro biden zriction districts, they're going to be in a really tight spot. i think he's going to present something that will enable them to say, hey, i stayed with the team and tried to be true to republican values as they exist in this particular season. but, no. i don't think it's going to get any actual vote in the senate. >> before you go, how much does that play into what happens in 2024? both men are pretty old. the nominee is a nominee. is that enthusiasm, does it tamp down enthusiasm? what exactly does age issue do? >> it will go trb to see how it plauz out. i think what it will, among other things, what it might do is keep a lot of people home. if there are younger, rested voters who just don't like what they're seeing, they may just choose to opt out. in which case, we get essentially a replay of the 2020 election. i think that is the most likely outcome. and we're putting -- we are putting off for another four years, we have the same candidates as the nominees as we
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welcome back to "cnn this morning." police arrested a suspect accused of kidnapping a female door dash delivery driver. the 38-year-old joseph killings faces multiple charges including armed kidnapping, robbery, and sexual battery in connection with the incident last tuesday.
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investigators say the woman was making a delivery in this neighborhood when a man approached her with a gun, forced her back into the vehicle and took her to another location where he attacked her. ador according to police, family tracked her phone and helped rescue her. he shot several shots at them. he was taken into custody the following day. >> this morning about 100 americans have been rescued from the violence in sudan. thousands more are still caught in the conflict between the country's military and rival parra mil pair a parra military and there is looting because of the lack of police forces. electricity water are returning in some areas. the united states is not planning an operation to evacuate american citizens who may want to leave. they say it is too dangerous to do that now. among those trapped in sudan, an american teacher and 18-month-old daughter. trilian clifford, you see them
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there. that is her daughter, alma. they're caught and following u.s. orders to shelter in place and ration food and water. her family in massachusetts is increasingly worried, of course. they say she's made a make shift shelter under her coffee table to hide when they hear gunfire and explosions. her sister-in-law joins us now. rebecca, good morning. >> good morning. how are you? >> i'm just feeling for her. you have been able to keep in touch with her and get updates on how they're doing? we were able to communicate over face time earlier on. but internet is out in sudan for a while now. unfor natalie, in the last 18 hours or so, we completely lost contact with trilian as the cell
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networks are now down in sudan as well. >> 18 hours. >> we're increasingly terrified. >> i'm so sorry. i no he that being there as a teacher, teaching is her passion. she taught really all over the world. she went there to help others as a passion. she feels like raising her daughter in an international receive a gift for her. >> she never expected to be in this situation. i know they're running low on food, on water. can you speak to how she is feeding alma right now? >> she is extremely concerned that alma is not going to get the nutrition and hydration she needs. she were nearing the nursing
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journey and now she is flipping that. to be a nursing mother, you need to be getting more calories yourself. she doesn't have more calories to eat right now. she doesn't know when her next food and water drop will happen or if it will happen. >> wow. wow. you know, some other countries have managed to remove their citizens they said all italian that's have asked to evacuate, they were evacuated. is she hearing anything from the u.s. embassy? our reporting now is that they're unable to bring people like trilian out. >> you're accurate. she's been told by the international school she works for that she has to shelter in place and should not accept any offers for private evacuation. so, she is just stuck waiting right now in fear. >> so, this is what the white
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house press secretary said to a reporter questioning this on friday. let's listen. i want your thoughts out of it. here it is. >> he would provided this warning to them many months ago telling americans who were there to leave if they could and also not to travel -- americans not to travel to sudan. we've been very clear on. that again, it's not our standard procedure. >> she was essentially asked about evacuating people like trilian. what went through your mind when you heard that? >> trilian said that is not true on her end. she's been registered with the u.s. embassy and in contact with them the entire time. when she accepted her next job in myanmar, we did some research, sudan was still under an orange warning by the united states. and that was only back in
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december or january. so, orange does mean you should not travel there for pleasure. but u.s. employees there were not asked to leave the country, at least according to trilian. >> that's a really important distinction. rebeck rebecca, i hope can you reach her. come back. we would love an update. we're hoping for the best situation possible. >> thank you so much for covering this story. >> thank you very much. >> yeah. absolutely. we'll continue to do so. wishing the best for them. also this morning, back here in the u.s., bed bath & beyond filed for bankruptcy. what does it mean for you and the coupons you've been keeping in that kitchen drawer for so long? >> bed bath & beyond coupons never expire. >> they have expiration dates on them. >> yeah, to throw idiots off! with the money we saved, we tried electric unicycles. i think i've got it! doggy-paddle! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪
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stores. the iconic 20% off coupons are now on the verge of going extinct. for decades, thern the go-to store for everything from it weddings, baby registries, filling your college dorm shopping list. a statement from the company says thank you to all of our loyal customers. we made the difficult decision to begin winding down our operations. cnn's business reporter joins us now. okay. so the company had been struggling for a few years i know financially wlabut what is that led them to file bankruptcy? >> this is the end of an era. there are a few key mistakes they made that led it to this point. first of all, very slow to adapt to online shopping. even as more customers were moving online, bed bath & beyond was focused on just getting people to stores so it missed online shopping. of course, you face a lot of competition from amazon. but also big box stores like walmart, target, tj max, home goods. more shoppers are going to the
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chains not just on line. bed bath & beyond didn't keep up. they made the decision to get rid of a lot of the big name brands which were drawing customers into stores. it switched to private label brands which customers were not familiar with. the move completely backfired and bed bath & beyond reversed course. so you look at its sales the last couple of decades. climbing in the 90s. into the 2000s. then they peaked in 2014, began to tumble. the pandemic hit bed bath and ye beyond really hard. sales plunged and they never recovered. now bed bath & beyond is a shell from the former self. 120 bye-bye baby stores. they're all set to close if they can't find a buyer during bankruptcy. and that will effect about 14,000 employees if all the stores close. so we could be looking at 14,000
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people looking for new jobs. >> that's a really important number. there are people behind all. this the question that a lot of people have is the coupons. i say coupons. what happens to those? do they -- how long are they good for? what has the company said about that? >> this is the question on all of our minds right now. you're going to start rummaging through your glove compartments in your cars, your kitchen drawers, closets, basement because the coupons are only -- you can only use them through tuesday. once wednesday comes, they're worthless. gift cards you have until may 8th to use. if you need to return something, you have until may 24th. you have to move quickly if you want anything from bed bath & beyond. >> all this is happening. we've seen a lot of bankruptcies. it's not just bed bath & beyond. this is happening to other companies as well as they're coming out of the pandemic, how people shop now and what that looks like. >> right. bankruptcies are piling up right now in the retail sector.
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we think back to the retail apocalypse. we're seeing it this year. bed bath & beyond, not the only retail store to file for bankruptcy. david's bridal filed for bankruptcy this year. party city, tuesday morning, tupperware is also on bankruptcy watch. customers are pulling back right now. they've been squeezed by inflation. and that's hurting all of these chains. >> yeah. i can see. that as you noted, 14,000 people, jobs are on the line. thank you so much. we'll see, of course this coupon debate we've been having over who says what. >> okay. >> they can't see that at all. >> don -- >> what did you ask me? you said ask your mom. >> how does your mom say it? >> she is a southerner. i said, mom, do you say coupon or coupon? she said cue. >> right. >> i knew we would be on the
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just a significant and pretty rare. rush why's foreign minister is right here in new york preparing to meet with the secretary-general of the united nations. they expressed concerns over the weekend that moscow may not hold up the end of the bargain in the critical black sea grain deal. let's start there. >> so the g-7 is proposing cutting off all exports to russia. in response over weekend, russia said what?
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>> that's right. i mean, at the moment, all exports were allowed to russia. the g-7 are proposing turning that around and banning everything to russia except for a few things like medicine and things like that. they say if you do that, we're going to take our own measures. we're going to stop that grain deal which is basically the only diplomatic agreement that there has been since the ukraine war began. which allows ukraine to export its grain to the rest of the world, sort of helping hunger issues across the globe. so, you know, it is a massive escalation. >> sergei lavrov is here. >> what he is chairing is russia is the president of the security council. it's a rotating thing. and april is their month. and so, they hosted a whole load of conferences which basically serve as a platform the issues
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they were able to raise. earlier this month, they talked about the transferring ukrainian children to russian territory. and they got the person in russia to speak at that conference, the main person involved. she's been indicted by the international criminal court. and accused of war crimes for kind of basically stealing children from ukraine. they had a conference about arms control. they accused the u.s. of pouring weapons into ukraine. they're helping ukraine defense against the rigs invasion. they're talking about defending the u.n. charter which was set up to stop countries invading other countries. so it's like. >> irony there. >> they're trolling. that is the allegation. they're trolling the rest of the world by using this u.n. presidency as a platform. russia invaded ukraine and now
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they're having meetings. how do you see other nations respond? i know we've seen eye rolls, some protests leaving certain meetings. how do other nations respond? >> because the western states obviously, as you say, rolling their eyes. basically walking out of some of the meetings at key moments. there are lots of other countries around the world. india and brazil who are much -- would are much more sympathetic to the russian point of view. perhaps they don't want to get involved directly. >> the former soviet states don't exist. >> i mean that's crazy. that goes -- i read that this morning this well. that's going further than even the russians are going. the chinese are very close to
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the russians. they've been providing diplomatic and political support to moscow for a long time. especially since the beginning of this war. there is an economic relationship between them. chun china is one of the biggest energy users. you know with, this kind of political rhetoric saying look, countries like lithuania and kazakhstan and ukraine are not religious and it adds legitimacy to this question that they can invade them at will and not have sovereign territory. i think it is well received in russia. it's a lot further than moscow has gone. >> matthew chance, great to have you here at the table this morning. >> all right. "cnn this morning" continues right now. >> families are safe out of sudan after a week of heavy fighting. >> t

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