that's extremism. there's no such thing as left or right. >> so your message to him in this campaign? >> you've got to help us here, mr. president. you've got to help us, if you become the president, you've got to help us. you cannot be coddling and cozying up to these far extreme groups that want to destroy america. >> thank you, sheriff, not just for this, but for what you do, what you're standing up for. it means a lot. >> thank you. >> thanks. cnn this morning continues now. hug it out. hug it out. >> there's a reason they're

hugging it out. good morning, everyone! that was a hollywood ending for rexham and the team's owners. after years of struggling, the welsh soccer club has achieved its dream of a major promotion. >> look at that. tears. wow, wow, congratulations to them. we'll talk more about that. plus, president biden set to name a campaign manager as he prepares to run for re-election, but new polls are showing that many americans are not excited about a trump/biden rematch. >> also, the faa is investigating after engines caught fire on two different american airlines planes. but we're going to start in sudan this morning, where the u.s. has now launched a daring rescue operation to evacuate americans from the war zone. the pentagon says that special ops forces blew into -- flew into the war-torn sudanese capital and helicopters to pick up u.s. diplomats and their families. we're told the mission was fast, it was clean, and u.s. troops were on the ground for less than an hour.

here's a photo of secretary of state anthony blinken, tensely monitoring evacuation as it was underway on saturday. the u.s. and several other nations have been scrambling to evacuate their citizens, as country and the fighting has raged between two rival military factions. blinken says that all u.s. personnel have been safely evacuated, but there are still an estimated 16,000 americans who live in sudan, most of them dual nationals. cnn's senior international correspondent, sam kiley is live where the rescue operation was launched. sam, obviously, there's a lot of questions about how this actually went down, what this looked like on saturday, but also what it means, that these countries including the u.s. are now making this decision to get people out. >> reporter: well, kaitlan, i think what it means is that the ongoing violence, and it is escalating very rapidly, not just in khartoum, but elsewhere in the country, has made life unlivable for members of the international community. there's a huge number of aid organizations there, business

people. there are students, too, from around africa, studying, or have been studying in khartoum and its twin city on the nyle. and life has become impossible, because the fighting between these two factions is in street-street, all over the country. not in pockets here, huther and dither. we just spoke to a man who said there are dead bodies outside the building where he lives. he's staying there. his family are being evacuated to elsewhere in sudan. but that is an option that's available only to the sudanese who have got a bit of money. for many sudanese, they're trapped, as are large numbers of american citizens as well as others in the international community. the u.s. led the field in this special forces, this dramatic evacuation, using these chinook helicopters out of ja butty.

the airport is teaming with at least 11 international military organizations, all sending their most elite troops on to the ground. many of them still continuing with evacuation operations. the egyptians also trying to put together evacuations over land. there's a lot of focus now in trying to get people or get people to get themselves to port sudan, which is potentially a safe exit position. but this is really the beginning of an evacuation process in the middle of a civil war. by no means the end of it, kaitlan. >> clearly, no end in sight according to what these officials here in the u.s. are seeing. >> i want to step back for a moment and take a quick look at how we got here. a battle for power in sudan. at the heart of the conflict are these two men who are up on your screen. sudanese military leader adele fatah alberhan, and a commander of the paramilitary rapid support military forces, mohammad hamdan dagalo.

until recently, they were allies. they worked together to topple sudan's former dictator president omar al bashir in 2019 and played a crucial role in orchestrating the country's military coup in 2021. but tensions arose over how to integrate the rsf into the country's military as part of plans to restore civilian rule. so the key question here is, who would be subordinate to whom under this new hierarchy. sources tell cnn that these hostilities are the culmination of what both parties view as an existential fight for dominance. so that is how we got here. joining us now, the white house's national security council spokesman, will john kirby. thank you so much for joining us. i appreciate it. you heard sam kiley there on the ground. the u.s. was able to successfully get diplomats out, calling it fast and clean. why not do the same sort of operation with citizens? can u.s. carry out a large-scale operation like that for citizens? >> well, we have military forces still pre-positioned nearby in

the region, don, if they're needed. but the situation is not conducive and not safe to try to conduct some kind of a larger military evacuation of american citizens. you saw yourself from sam's reporting, the violence is increasing. it's more dangerous today than it was just yesterday or the day before. and so the best advice we can give to those americans who did not abide by our warnings to leave sedan is to stay sheltered many place, city safe and secure and off the streets of khartoum. we are doing what we can to help guide people who can move out to get out to potentially like land convoys that are moving. in fact, there are several dozen americans that we know of that are in a u.n.-led convoy that's making its way to port sudan over ground, don. in fact, the u.s. military is flying unmanned aerial assets over that convoy, so that we can maintain some sort of situational awareness and overwatch for them to help protect them as they make their way to port sudan.

and we're deploying naval assets to port sudan or need any kind of care. >> that's in case on their own. but i have to ask you, because, you know, this fast and clean mission, you're saying it's dangerous. and we did hear it's dangerous in sam's reporting. but sudan's military chief said on saturday morning, john, that his troops would help evacuate u.s. diplomats and ssz, he said, and citizens. but the u.s. embassy said it was too dangerous. do you think there was a missed opportunity to get private citizens, u.s. citizens out? >> no, sir. we are doing everything we can to help guide them. we're in touch with hundreds of american citizens that are there, who want -- who may want to leave. it's up to them, of course, to decide to do that. we're doing the best we can to give them the information that they need, that they can rely on, and to do so safely. but honestly, the fighting in khartoum is not in a situation where we would want people moving about too freely or too

aggressively right now. the safest thing for many americans to do, who didn't get out when they were warned to get out is to stay safe right now, and see if the situation can improve. in the meantime, don, and i know i'm running on here, but we are working closely with both military factions and these leaders, general bolan to get them to put down their arms and abide by a cease-fire they both say they want. >> you said you were in touch with hundreds, but there are about 16,000 or so people who have to get out of this country. are you able -- you're not able to get in touch with all of them, right? >> i want to push back on this idea that there's 16,000 americans that want to get out. we don't have firm estimates of the exact number of american citizens who are in sudan. they don't have to register with us, don't have to tell us that they're there. we think that the vast majority of these american citizens in sudan are dual nationals. these are people who grew up in sudan, who have families there, worked there, businesses there, who don't want to leave. i think we feed to be careful about that number. there's a much smaller

population of american citizens who don't work for the government, but who work with partner agencies, like the american school or fulbright scholar program that we are in touch with and we're trying to get them the best information we can to get out. and several dozen we know today are in that u.n. convoy, heading to port sudan. >> so we talked about how dangerous it is. is the u.s. in contact with either of these leaders of these factions that are fighting. >> yes. >> and there are efforts by the u.s. to de-escalate or mediate? >> 100%, don. we've been in touch with them almost every day since the beginning of this crisis. the fighting started a week ago saturday. we've been direct touch with them, don, at various levels, not just at the state department, but our senior military leaders have been in touch with them, because these are two military men to try to get them to abide by the cease-fire they both say they want. >> what about the president telling them to stop? >> we have been communicating with both leaders at various levels and we'll continue to do that. >> is there anything that can be done to target leaders to get them to stop the fighting, like

sanctions, targeting their wealth, et cetera? >> we have a lot of tools at our disposal and we're sort of working our way through that right now. but the focus is making sure that we get the cease-fire in place, we get the violence to stop, we get the tensions de-escalated, so you can have those kinds of conversations going forward. i don't want to get ahead of decisions that we haven't made yet. our focus is really getting the violence down and helping get those people who want to leave sudan to be able to do so safely and provide them the best options and information to be able to do that. >> i want to talk russia and the security council. sergey lavrov is in the u.s. and in a couple of hours, he is chairing the security council meeting. elizabeth whealan, the sister of paul whealan, who has been detained in russia for more than four years will be attending that meeting. are u.s. officials planning to talk to lavrov about whealan and other americans detained in russia, like journalist evan grish

grishkovich. >> we haven't missed an opportunity to talk to them about both paul and even. i don't have any specific conversations with mr. lavrov to speak to today. and he's here because they have the presidency temporarily, a figurehead position of the security council. but we haven't missed a beat in talking to russian officials. and in fact, there's a proposal on the table, it's been on the table, to try to get mr. whaealn out. that doesn't mean we're going to stop. >> are you current about, for not issuing russian journalists visas to come here and cover sergey lavrov is not happy about that. are you concerned about the effect that it could have on people like gershkovich? >> we want to make sure we get evan and paul out. but look, the russian state media, they don't -- these are propaganda organs and, you know, again, we feel like it's important to speak up and stand up for freedom of the press. a free press, an independent

press that is able to do its job freely. mr. gershkovich is a reporter, he's not a spy. >> and finally, president biden is set to announce he has re-election campaign this week. the president is facing several international challenges, sudan, ukraine, rising tensions with china and so forth. will he be able to keep his eye on these issues and campaign at the same time? >> well, i don't talk about the politics of this, don, that's not my lane, and i certainly won't get into speculating about 2024 again. that's not my place. i can tell you that president biden is laser-focused on securing american interests overseas, making sure, as we saw over the weekend, that we're making it safe for our diplomats to do their job and for our military to continue to defend themselves. there is a lot on the plate, from ukraine to the indo pacific and in africa this weekend, the president is focused on all of that. he's being updated every day, certainly on the situation in

sudan. he is absolutely confident that he can continue and will continue to do what he has to do to defend our national security interests and advance our foreign policy overseas. >> john kirby, we appreciate you coming on this morning. thank you so much. >> you bet. >> really important interview. some frightening moments for passengers onboard of two different american airlines flights in the past few days, both captured on camera. take a look at this first one. this is a flight over columbus, ohio. on sunday, where a possible bird strike is believed to have sparked an engine fire. officials, though, tell us the plane was able to land safely, and here's the other one from thursday, when the plane never got off the ground in charlotte, north carolina. no one was injured. also this morning, the dancing world has lost one of their own. former judge of dancing with the stars,l len goodman. z >> i loved it. i loved being a part of it and i loved working with you. you were great. >> len. >> i could not have done it without you. >> oh, i'm loving it! oh, yeah!

>> thank you so much for letting me be a part of "dancing with the stars". >> len goodman was 78 years old. he died of bone cancer on saturday. he was a professional dancer until he ventured into television. he was a judge on "dancing with the stars" with 2005 up until last year. and also judged the british version of the show "strictly come dancing." >> i had no idea until you just told our audience. i had no idea. and he was such a fun, gregarious -- >> such a presence. >> just real. yeah, too bad. so congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez isn't kevin mccarthy. who she says is really in charge. >> also, speaker mccarthy is

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he needs to show leadership and come to the negotiating table, asset of put us in default. >> when referring to biden's past positions, mccarthy was referring to his time as a senator. mccarthy's plan right now proposes raising the nation's $ $21.4 trillion debt limit, whichever comes first. but it also proposes blocking president biden's plan to kill new irs funding that was enacted as part of the inflation reduction act. and repealing green energy tax credits. many house republicans say that they have not yet decided if they are going to support that plan, including our next guest, who is joining us now, south carolina congressman, nancy mace. that is the first question this morning. does kevin mccarthy have the votes? does he have your vote? >> that remains to be seen later this week, but real americans don't get to operate at a deficit. and congress needs to come back to the real world. if you look at over the last six

years alone, president trump and president biden, $13 trillion was added to the debt, both sides were at fault here. and i don't understand why we can't have a conversation about why we're going to cut spending, really cut spending or balance the budget over the next decade or so and show the american people that we're going to be responsible with their tax dollars. and that's the kind of thing that i want to see us push for more aggressively. >> so you haven't decided whether or not you're going to support this? >> right, i'm leaning against voting for it at this time, because i just don't understand why we can't have a conversation about balancing the budget, cutting spending, and doing so over the next ten years, because inflation is still on the rise. we need to grow the economy. we've got to cut spending and cut taxes and reinsome of that in order to grow the economy at a rate that can overtake the debt that we've taken on in this country. >> it's monday. this vote could happen as soon as wednesday or thursday. i don't have to tell you that. what does kevin mccarthy need to do about change your mind about voting yes, or you pretty firmly

leaning "no," you say? >> we're still growing through the plan. i have other concerns, especially on green energy. a state like south carolina, we have a lot of solar farms and solar energy, both presidential and commercial. i want to find out, figure out what kind of adverse impact it might have on the state of south carolina before we finally make that decision. and there are other concerns. and we're just still waiting through it. and the devil is always in the details. >> okay, so you want changes, it sounds like, before you would vote "yes"? >> correct. but we'll see if they'll do that. but the things that i'm talking about, you know, balancing the budget in ten years is not going to be easy. i blame both sides for the situation that we're in today. and both sides need to come to the table and figure this thing out. i don't think we'll default. that's a fear tactic by the left. we have plenty of tax revenue to pay the interest on the debt. but we need to get serious about spending in this country. and neither side is willing to have that conversation, and that's what's disappointing with all of this at this juncture now. $31 trillion in debt.

>> given you're not a "yes" yet, and mccarthy was saying yesterday, he feels confident that he has the votes. obviously, you know it's a razor-thin margin. is he wrong he has the votes? >> i haven't been whipping the votes, so i don't know where others are. i know that there are several that are going to be a "yes," that might be a surprise to some people. and there'll be some surprise nos as well. we'll see how it ends up in thefecthe next few days. >> his argument seems to be, if republicans could get this passed, it would give them some leverage, force democrats to come to the negotiating table. do you think that's wrong? >> we would have a really tough time over the last couple of years having both sides come together at the table to make some tough decisions, whether we're talking about legislation or the budget or spending, and we really need to do that. i hope it can be leveraged for that, but so far, the president won't even come to the table. we need both sides to come

together. both sides need to make tough decisions. the average american has to balance their checkbook. i don't understand why we keep kicking this can down the road and do absolutely nothing to curb our spending or be at least a little more responsible, so we can balance things out over the next ten years. i don't understand why that can't be a part of the conversation. >> yeah, and the white house has said that they are staying firm on their position. we'll see what happens. i do also want to get your reaction to the supreme court ruling on -- their move they made on friday night, blocking that lower court's decision to try to limit or politic the distribution of medication, abortion. what was your reaction to that, given it's clear this fight is far from over? >> the fight is far from over, but for now the supreme court did make the right decision. i came on your show two weeks ago talking about that judge's decision and in part, the basis for his decision was completely unconstitutional. using a law that the supreme court, the united states supreme court said was unconstitutional back in 1983. this is an issue where

republicans need to think about whether or not they want to continue losing elections to the left, and some on the far left, if they want to moderate some of their extreme views and say, we can be pro-life, and be pro-woman at the same time. and talk about what we're doing to protect women who have been rained girls who are victims of incest. what we're doing to improve ob/gyn access in rural areas and contraception and contraceptives to those areas that don't have ob/gyn doctors. what are we doing to protect women and being pro-woman, while also being pro-life. that's a winning message and winning policy for the american people, and i want to see us act on that. it's very important right now, more than ever. because people are angry. i see it in my state, in my district. i'm in a very purple district. and people want to see solutions. they don't want to continue to see the far-right extreme take over this conversation. >> yeah, you've been very outspoken on that. you're also on the house oversight committee and you recently went to the treasury building to look at these sars, these suspicious activity reports. here's what you said upon leaving the treasury department.

>> the amount of money that we're talking about in this suspicious activity reports is astronomical. and the accusations and the source of the funding, where the money is going, the shell companies, prostitution rings, et cetera, it's insanity to me that it's not been investigating in the way that it should be. >> now, this is in relation to the investigations that republicans are conducting when it comes to the bide family. that is quite an allegation to make, though. do you have evidence. and how much information -- >> yes, this is not a conspiracy theory. me reviewed over 170 suspicious activity reports. and i'm going to be very clear. i did that video right as i was walking out of the treasury. and then the far left wanted to call me and label me a conspiracy theorist afterwards. it's not a conspiracy. these were things that i read about while i was there and we're talking about potentially up to a dozen biden family members. and for years now, the left has said, no one is above the law.

if that's the case, put your money where your mouth is. have this thing fully investigated to the fullest extent of the law. and if people, the average american saw what we saw, they would question why it's not being investigated. because the allegations that i made are absolutely what we were reading about last week. and i'm not -- i'm pretty -- i call balls and strikes, okay? on both sides. and i'm being very clear and very honest about what we saw. i can't share all the details, because it's confidential information. but every time we overturn a stone, there's more to be investigated, because you see another dumpster fire. and you're like, what is going on and why is this happening? >> that's my question. because when it comes to these sars reports, you know as well as i do, not all the information in there is verified. this is what gets reported and this is what they're looking at. it doesn't mean that wrongdoing has been committed. that's the question that people had is, walking out of there after seeing this, you know, how do you know what you saw is verified to come out and make an allegation like that, which you know is something that happens to members of congress all the

time. necessarily when it comes to these allegations, they shouldn't, you know, the question of whether or not they should be made, if you don't actually know that information is verified that you saw. >> i would just ask the department of legitijustice to the money. there are more questions than answers, more biden family's involved than we know. and if it's all above board, say it's all above board. but when you look at what's going on and the sources of some of the funding that's known and unknown and you'll ask yourself why hasn't this been investigated to the fullest extent of the law. it's very damning the things that we read in those documents. >> we would like to see the evidence. i know the chairman of the house oversight committee said he will hold a press conference. he has sent a letter requesting the review of a former trump aide who has allegedly acquired and published online these financial activities. do you believe that that should be investigated as well? >> no one is above the law. and i have been very clear, if someone has broken a law, they

should be investigated to the fullest extent of the law. i will tell you, the american people, they don't trust congress or d.c. it's because they see people in power, people with money get away with things that they could never get away with. and so i'm all for investigating whomever has broken the law and hold them to the fullest extent of the law. >> congressman nancy mace, thank you for your time this morning. >> thank you. the former police officer who shot and killed dante wright in suburban minneapolis out of prison. kim potter was released earlier this morning. she served about 16 months of her two-year sentence. a jury convicted potter of manslaughter in december of 2021. potter said she accidentally grabbed her gun instead of her taser when she shot wright, a black motorist, two years ago. he was pulled over for having expired tags and for hanging an air freshener. during that stop, officers learned that he had an outstanding warrant and attempted to arrest him, but wright pulled away, tried to drive off, a warning, this may be difficult to watch.

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mcelenani celebrated with a long embrace. the two actors bought the club in 2021, documented their story in the fx documentary story "welcome to wrexham." the teeam's popularity in the united states has skyrocketed. espn 2 even televising some of its games, and this summer wrexham is coming to america to face two of the biggest clubs in the sport, manchester united and chelsea. with us, tnt/hbo soccer analyst and former men's midfielder, kyle martino. >> paul rudd filmed that after 12 pints, too. what a day they had. >> his camera work was very good. >> is this a "ted lasso" moment for these guys? it's kind of -- to get here is crazy. >> it's interesting you say that. i think that -- "ted lasso" is probably going to be studied in harvard sociology courses at one point, the inflection point that

the number one sport on the planet, we don't have to waste time debating that, the beautiful game in a country full of sports and sports fans that consume an incredible amount of sports, "ted lasso" and this story is opening up, i think, one of the coolest parts of soccer as it exists as an entrant sport. this idea of promotion relegation. this idea of a team playing in not even what's called the football league. right? they're outside of the professional side of the table. to be able to win and climb the rung and get up to the level where you can play in manchester united and against these teams. that's cool part of this story, the sporting meritocracy of promotion relegation as it exists over there? >> what about paul mullen. 47 goals this season? >> that's the other thing. the last time we had this conversation is when lester went -- you'll remember that story years ago, where they went and won the premiere league. that was a team that went

through the same sort of scenario of climbing up through the ranks. and when you think of it as an american sports fan, you know, we kind of celebrate mediocrity. and you're the worst team in the league? well, here's the first draft pick. what's wild about these stories some of these players that have side jobs, you know, they're kind of semi-professionals. and jamie var ty was a player that ended up playing for england and becoming a permanent league winner. these are household names by winning and going up. >> can we talk about the promotion relegation thing a little more? there is a clip on the show that explains it. >> we'll try to do it in 30 seconds. we're like, what is happening here. but i want to play this to explain how this works and how different it is. >> imagine, if you will, the new york yankees lose 150 games in a season, they finish dead last, and they have to drop down a league and the following year, play against the likes of the

lee toledo mud hens and sacramento river cats, and if they keep losing enough, eventually, they end up playing softball in ithaca. >> i called humphrey, you have a club that had an infrastructure that could at least support an evening of the balance sheet. can't you theoretically take a team that's in the lowest league and bring them to the top? he said, "yes". >> so what's next for them? >> staying up, right? that's the other thing. this moment of elation, you know, when you go up, tv rights are bigger, you get a little bit more money, but you have to be careful to spend that money wisely. the hardest thing when you climb the table and get up to the next division, of course, you are the biggest in your pond, now you're in a bigger pond and there's faster fish. they're in a tougher division. so staying in that league is everything. that's the thing that everyone worries about, you get really excited, you go up, and immediately, you finish bottom of that table and you drop back down. >> did they spend a lot of money and are they making a lot of

money now or getting their investment back? >> that's a good question. i think this story, if you tried to do the calculus on how they succeeded, they're not the only famous people that went over and bought a lower division team. this has been going on for a long time. i was a part of the ownership with steve nash and we boughtmy my orca but 95% of the efforts to do what they're doing fail. this is a really hard thing to do. the thing they have is story telling. now we all know it. now that we all have our phones out, i'm here this morning, five years ago, we wouldn't be sitting here telling a story like this. so you're right, "ted lasso," the growth of the game in this country are women world cup team being one of the best in the country. this summer, hopefully going again to win a world cup. 2026 is going to be the world cup in the united states. stories like this, i think, are going to make people speculate. can we go over and buy a team? can we do this? the top division teams, you know, the fenway sports group

that owned boston red sox, some of the biggest european clubs in the world are owned by americans. i love some of these speculative americans are going, we can tell a big story. the better story is on the way up, not staying there. this is going to be fascinating. >> staying there is season one, getting there is season one. >> and winning the premiere league is 20 years down the road. >> poppy just won a big pot of money this weekend from winning the marathon. >> first of all, i came home from a half-marathon with a medal that everyone gets and my daughter was like, oh, my god, i'm so excited. we went out to brunch, she saw other people with the medal and she was like, mom, you didn't win? >> you were like, i finished. >> if these legs at my age can finish. >> i wouldn't even try it. >> kyle, thank you very much. >> good to see you. so florida governor ron desantis in japan this morning on a quote international trade

mission and answering questions about a possible white house run. >> governor, the polls show you falling behind trump. >> i'm not -- i'm not a candidate, so we'll see if and when that changes. >> i'm not a candidate. so dana bash joins us now next to discuss.

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so happening this morning, president biden and his team of advisers are finalizing plans to announce his 2024 re-election bid, while former president trump is already the expected front-runner for republicans. but in a new poll, voters say they don't want either biden or trump to run in 2024. joining us now, cnn's chief political correspondent and co-anchor of "state of the union," the one and only dana bash. good morning. >> that was a good intro, don. >> thank you. i practiced that. >> such feeling. thank you. >> i was in front of the mirror last night going, the dana bash. dana, good morning. what do you think voters are saying here? obviously, they do not want 2020 all over again.

they're like, let's move on to somebody else. is that what they're saying? >> yes. i mean, if you look at these numbers, and then you look more deeply into other numbers, if you take biden out and you take trump out, it's the same story in that people are looking for, in theory, something new. but in practice, when you look at how this goes down, donald trump, right now, we are very early in the process, we cannot say that enough, but right now, he is the front-runner among the voters that will make him the republican candidate. the republican nominee, rather. and joe biden is president. so he has a very big advantage and there is nobody even remotely viable right now who is going to challenge him. so that's the way the system works. and that's, looks like, if the lech were right now, that's what we would get. it's not right now, and that's particularly important again to say, when it comes to the

republican nomination process. >> yeah, it's very important to note, but there is obviously one person who may be considering trying to challenge trump for that republican nomination. that's florida governor ron desantis, who is on a trip that is unusual for a sitting governor to take. this is in japan. he's doing a multi-country tour. but when he was in japan, dana, he was asked about falling behind trump in some of these polls when it comes to who they want to be the republican candidate. this is how he responded. >> the polls show you falling behind trump. any thoughts on that? >> i'm not a candidate, so we'll see if and when that changes. >> what do you make of that, dana? >> he looked down -- >> it's getting a lot of reaction in trump world, i'll say. >> he was looking down as if he was looking for the place where he could hit the button so the earth could open and he could zero. that' that's what i took away from his body language there. look, we expect him to say that, particularly on the international stage, to be fair, where he's there in his capacity

as a sitting governor of florida. he's not going to say anything political or shouldn't say anything political with regard to his own future there. but the other thing i was thinking about, guys, is, back in may, i believe it was, early june, of 2015. i accompanied then former florida governor jeb bush on an international trip. he was in latvia and some of the other former soviet countries. we actually went to poland, as well. and it was part of a strategy to show the voters, particularly the republican primary voters at the time, that he has international chops. that he is foreign policy/national security chops. that's another thing going on here, a big thing going on here with deskesantis and this trip. whether or not that matters when it comes to what the voters right now are looking for, that is a very big question mark.

>> i want to talk about your interviews yesterday with both senator lindsey graham and senator amy klobuchar touched on abortion. but this exchange in particular, let's play the shorter graham sound bite, was interesting, and i think it points to what a number of leaders in the republican party are doing to try to describe their view of democrats on abortion now. let's play it. >> i think the republican party will be in good standing to oppose late-term abortion, like most of the civilized world. >> just for the record, roe went up to viability, but i just want to button this up. >> no, that's not -- quit covering for these guys! no, no, no, you're media, you keep covering for these guys. they introduced legislation that allowed abortion on demand with taxpayer-funded -- you paying for it, taxpayer up to the moment of birth. that was their position in washington. that's the law they want to pass. and nobody in your business will talk about it.

it's barbaric. >> that's not true. and you should watch our full interview with him. you're not covering for anyone. the point about saying abortion on demand up until the point of delivery i thought was striking, especially what we heard from senator tim scott on that a few weeks ago? >> yeah, where republicans have been doing since roe was revoked has been saying at last very important question to ask, not just of us republicans when it comes to -- at what point in a pregnancy abortion should be allowed at the beginning of the pregnancy, but the question for democrats, which is how long through a pregnancy should abortion be allowed. it's a legitimate question. it is a question that i and i know each of the three of you have asked democrats repeatedly, because this is a policy that has not had to be set for 50 years, when roe was in place.

so as these states are coming up with their individual new laws, the question is, not just, for example, florida. you cannot have an abortion after six weeks of pregnancy, but the sort of more liberal states, how long is it okay to do that? it is a legitimate question. it is not legitimate to say, we are not asking those questions, because we are. >> i actually remember vividly you pressing katie hobbs on it when she was running for governor of arizona over and over for an answer answer and many others. >> but the other thing i should say is what that spoke to is how -- and i think you were getting to this in your question, poppy, how really complicated this issue is. >> yes. >> on the raw politics for republicans. >> yes. yes. >> the whole reason lindsey graham proposed a national ban, even though he said he never would during the midterms, is because he understood how complicated it was politically for republicans and it still is. >> dana bash, thank you.

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not about the number of dog photos you have gotten from don, but what is the morning number? >> all right. >> he does send those, by the way. where are the dogs? >> where are they? send a voicemail at least weekly, about one in five on average from data in the uk and the usa and more than that it's on the rise. take a look here, so, okay, voice memo users rising up 114% since 2019 in the uk, up 37% since 2022 on the dating app pin. so voice memos are becoming significantly more popular. >> why are they becoming more popular, harry? >> okay. so how do people talk daily or more in the u.s.? text message something more popular than making a phone call, 68% on the text message, 59% on the phone call. but let's say you want support, right? you want that human touch. it turns out that people who got support in the last month via phone call 51% versus text messaging just 46%. so i think these voice memos

kind of create this middle ground, right? it's the phone call's personal touch without the fear of interrupting somebody's day. i think that's especially big with those under the age of 30, which is close to my age group, but not quite. >> yeah. >> i like it because, yeah, it's like a text where you don't have to type it all out, you are not on the phone with them, there is no obligation. >> i still call them, all the time. >> kayla and i agree with this. don't call. >> just text me. >> saying hi, guys. >> don't ever do that to me, you will freak me out. >> or the people who facetime out of the blue. i'm like i'm not answering a facetime. >> you're like this is suspicious. >> harry enten, thank you so much. and thank you for joining us this morning. cnn "news central" starts right after this break. >> bye, everyone. every year. passing througt don't just connect your business. (dock worker) right on time. (vo) make it even smarter. we call this e enterprise intelligence. before... and bath fitter. nonow's the time to call bath fitter to get a beautiful “after.” with our unique tub over tub process,

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