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striking a bird, and what we are learning about this. and a prom turns into a nightmare after 19 are injured when bullets start flying. we are following these developing stories and much more as they come in right here at cnn "news central." a race to get out as people are rushing to get their people out of sudan. special forces have now carried out a risky operation to get the u.s. embassy officials and families out of khartoum. this is a photo of antony blinken monitoring situation. the u.s. government is warning an estimated 16,000 americans remaining there and many of them

dual citizens after a large scale operation of those who want to leave is not happening now. the u.s. is facilitating evacuations in other ways. more from the white house in a moment, but sam kiley is in djibouti where the operation began. sam, this seems like a global retreat. >> global retreat is the exact way to put it. here we have a french air force long distance cargo plane. that has been, we understand, on about four rotations into khartoum, and the french have evacuated close to 500 people. in distance beyond it is an raf aircraft and similarly the british joined the americans and taken in some of the americans as they took in some of the diplomats in the beginning of

the operation over the weekend and taking their citizens in what is some of their words a failure to get some of the people out, the people not diplomats or the people not lucky enough to be wealthy or enough to get a vehicle out to mustering point. over here in this area of the djibouti airport, you can see the hub of what it is for the military. and hercules and similar aircraft and the flying trucks of the military world, they are parked over there, and they are part of this multi national evacuation effort including special forces from japan, south korea, all of the way through the middle east, britain, france, the netherlands and of course, the united states. the problem is now that with the escalating fighting in sudan, how do you get all of the other foreign nationals out? that is a land move and there is not yet any clear planning of how to manage it or if they are going to.

>> sam kiley there, thank you, and djibouti operations there. and now to the white house for the latest on the situation there, and the administration's decision making and the next steps. jeremy diamond is going to join us next, and what does the administration believe is going to happen next now that the government personnel is out, about 100, and many of the dual nationals, what are the plans for them? >> yeah, that is the big question right now, jim. as you said the u.s. government estimates around 16,000 american citizens in sudan, but the secretary of state tony blinken said there are others expressing interest to helping get them evacuated and jake sullivan briefed the reports a moment ago saying that they are actively looking to get the exit of americans, and not by the military, because that is off of the table. and with evacuations of overhead

intelligence and other means. listen to him from moments ago. >> we actively facilitating the departure of american citizens who want to leave sudan as the state department has been urging them the o do for years. we have been deploying evacuation routes for americans to use, and moving the naval assets in the region to provide support. this tragic violence has cost the lives of hundreds of innocent civilians and it is unconscionable and it must stop. >> he also said that it is not the norm for the military to facilitate the evacuation directly of american citizens of conflict zones in the past, and noting that in afghanistan it was different with the war ending there, and the u.s. military already on the ground. now, there is an ongoing calculus on the daily basis here from white house in terms of what more the u.s. could do, and sullivan said that president

biden has asked for every conceivable option to help the americans to get out and for now, it appears that the role is limited the overhead intelligence and working with other countries having the land-based convoys to leave khartoum to leave the port of sudan and other assets positioned there. the white house says it is a dynamic situation here, and they are holding out hope that there could be a protracted cease-fire, but there is a real risk of a protracted conflict on the ground, jake. >> and the white house does not profess to have rescue americans from a war zone, and so we know that is key, but was there a warning that every citizen should be leaving the country? >> there is a level 4 warning in sudan has the been active for years. it is a level 4 to tell american citizens not the travel to sudan, but as sullivan noted,

they are free to travel and not constrained by the warnings ultimately, but it is certainly a warning that is out there, and again, many of the citizens is and many of the dual citizens live in sudan and that livelihoods are there and that is what the american government is aware of. >> thank you, jeremy diamond. lawrence. and the first u.s. default is barreling ahead and these two people can stop it -- president biden and speaker mccarthy. speaker mccarthy is barreling ahead for a vote to spending cuts that would take a hatchet to biden's budget plan, and the problem is that it is a debt ceiling plan that has been risen for centuries and raised an suspended 20 times, including three times under former president trump and one time

already under president biden. over to capitol hill with manu raju, and this is a major moment for kevin mccarthy, and he is vowing a vote this week and the republican caucus is going to send the budget over to the senate. >> yeah, and he does believe that he is going to eventually get the votes to do it this week, but at the moment, it is unclear if they have 218 votes yet, because behind the scenes over the last several day, the house republican team led by the whips have been reaching out to all corners of the house republican conference to get them in line, and to get 218 votes to pass the house, and that means that kevin mccarthy cannot afford the lose more than four republican votes, and if he does that, this is not going to pass, because the democrats are going to oppose the measure in lock step, and agree with the white house position to say that the debt limit will be increased without any conditions attach and that is including the spending cuts across the board,

and new work requirements on the social safety net programs and medicaid and key republican priorities and pulling back the funding for the irs as well as trying to stop president biden's student loan forgiveness program all as part of the effort to entice the conservative members to get on board, but there are concerns behind the scenes including pull back the all tax breaks which is part of the plan, and some conservatives want to go further on the medicaid work requirements, but some say they won't change this bill as they try to push their conference to fall in line. boris. >> manu, even if this does pass the house as mccarthy is vowing, but as you pointed out, it is a murky proposition, and this is likely to be dead on arrival at the senate, so what is plan b? is there a plan b? >> that is a major question. because the white house has been insisting all along that there is going to be no plan b.

in fact, i asked the minority leader chuck schumer, what if this does pass the house, and will you change your posture, and he said, no, the position is the same, and the debt limit should remain the same without any condition, and clean, clean, clean, he said. he is insisting on no spending cutst s at all, and that is diametrically opposed to the house, and kevin mccarthy said there is never going to be a bill without any cuts. and so this is going to be the first ever default. >> yes, that cliff is a month away. mau manu raja, thank you. and rose college has just tweeted us that they have had a

live shooter on campus, and now that shoot er is in custody, an this is a public college not far from oklahoma city, and what are you learning? >> yes, this is a situation that is still developing, but right now, the officials in midwest city which is just outside of oklahoma city just east of the city say that there is one male victim who has died and the shooter is in custody. within the last hour, rose state college officials have been urging the students on campus, and administrators to shelter in place while the police are on scene there and while the aerial footage is there, and the police are on campus, and they did capture what appears to be the body of a person laying on the ground next to the campus building. we don't know if it is the victim or the shooter that is in custody. that is the scene that

investigators there in midwest city, oklahoma, are continuing to work. the headline as i mentioned, one person dead, and the shooter they say is in custody, and we are working to try to get as much information as we can on the situation. it is still an active scene, but it sounds like the immediate threat of more shooting is now over at this point, and so the investigation continues, brianna. >> this is all too normal, but we are still getting the details in, and we will lean on you for that. ed lavandera, thank you. boris? >> and now more scary moments in the sky. the faa is investigating an american airlines flight bursting into flames, and how the pilot responded in the chaos. and plus, possible shots fired at a basketball tournament in texas. what police say caused these chaotic moments. stay with us.

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days. officials say that plane was waiting to take off from charlotte, north carolina, when a mechanical incident was reported to say the leastment and this one was separate in columbus, ohio, when authorities say that a bird strike forced pilot to declare a mayday and return to the airport after there were sparks from the engine. and it seems that we were talking about a other bird strikes, but tell us about this columbus flight? >> yes, the crew experienced this on takeoff and american airlines flight from columbus, ohio, to phoenix. and the passengers could hear the pulsing sound and they could also hear it on the ground. and the enthusiasts also heard

this out on a jog. and hear this from the pilots to the tower in columbus, declaring emergency and coming back to land. >> mayday, mayday, mayday. american 1958, we have had a bird strike and engine failure. >> american 1958, roger. can you make it back to the runway? >> yes, for now. >> and the good news is that it is really not all that significant given that 737 engines can fly fine on one, and they were able to return back to the airport without much of the incident, but with 270 people on board without incident and the bird strikes are firing up, and the reason that the airplanes are quieter and more efforts to help out the migratory birds and so it is efforts to make it so that pilots can report it easier

and one of the reasons that they are going up. and one of the reasons that it is rare that it is going to lead to injury of anybody on board and like 0.1% of all of the incidents. >> i think that when you are hearing of the planes taking off from national, you can hear the difference of the older and the newer ones, and you said it is particularly notable because it was low altitude of the time, and air speed issue? >> well, altitude issue, because you less altitude, fewer options. so down low, and the case with the bird strikes, often on the take off and landing, but the bird strikes can be reported really high altitude and tens of thousands of feet up in the air, but sometimes it is low to the ground and that is the pilots not to have a lot of time and low margin for error. >> and i remember captain sully saying we are going into the hudson. >> and never forget that. and now, we have mary schiavo

here to talk about this. and we are not imagining it, but it is happening more, and what are the measures that the airlines need to take and should be taking? >> well, this year, they are up a third, and so it is dramatic, and the trending up of the statistics is tracking up with the bird populations. eagles are up five times over the past 25 years and last year 44 eagle strikes. so the statistics are matching the bird populations, so the airports have cannons to make noise, and vehicles and other lights and noisemakers and some airports have had to try the birds, and of course, you have to get the dogs out of the airport, too, and other noisemakers, but you have to think of how you use the airport usage. in the past, some airports who put wetlands around the airport

which of course attracts the birds, and airports near landfills like new york city attracts the birds, so you have to rethink the land usage and the airports are getting smarter, but they don't want the ponds or lands around them, because they want to keep the birds away. otherwise, they will increase. but the good news as pete said, since the faa has been keeping the statistics, 301 people have die and 298 planes lost, so when you are putting it in perspective, these things are 17,000 bird strikes last year, and even though they happen all of the time, usually people don't get hurt, and pilots know what to do and put the engine off, and turn off the engine and return to the airport. >> how much can the engine withstand and how much does altitude matter, because as you are looking at the columbus one which is not far from where you are, it is really something that appears, and i think that it is a bird strike, but it appears to

have happened low which is a complicating factor. >> yeah. >> you know, i lived in columbus for 15 years and columbus is overrun with, what they call them canadian geese, but i call them ohio geese, because they don't migrate anymore and altitude is the key as pete said, because the strikes happen under 1,000 feet, because that is where the birds usually live and that is going to happen on the takeoff and landing, and until you are up to altitude, you need the engines and you need the speed and the altitude to be able to turn around and come back to the airport. so that is really the key is the bird strikes happen at that point of flight that is most vulnerable, takeoff or landing. and so that is why it is so important to get the birds away from the airports, because that is when the airplane is the most vulnerable. the faa studied each bird and what is left of the bird is

called smarge, and they are sent to the smithsonian, and so they can be identified. >> yes, they have word for it. i don't know what is worse that it happens or that they have a word for it. it is geese, vultures, owls, eagles and what bird has hit birds or planes have hit the birds changes over the different populations have grown, and so it is a very interesting subject and studying it, hopefully it will be less dangerous. >> you taught me something that i have not expected to learn, mary. snarge. >> okay. police say that a car crash in jerusalem was a terror attack. and nine people are injured after an after-prom party in

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the white house says it is not safe enough to conduct an evacuation of the american citizens from war torn sudan at this time. u.s. forces have safely rescued around 100 government personnel and their families after suspending the embassy operations in khartoum. the operation was less than an hour on the ground. the white house has been in contact with the fighting factions and the battles could engulf the entire region if the

battle does not stop. president biden is expected to announce his bid for re-election tomorrow. he spent the weekend in camp david meeting with the campaign staff. and tomorrow marks the anniversary of when he marked his bid for president in 2020. and now, the faa is investigating the engine on an american airlines burst into flames after a possible bird strike. the boeing 727 turned around and landed safely in columbus, ohio. >> there was a lot of hand holding and a lot of people closing their eyes and trying to text their loved ones and so forth. so it was scary. it is not something that you deal with. >> and in a different incident, a plane was forced to return to the gate in charlotte, north carolina, after a different fire, and this is spotted under the right wing just after takeoff and pretty scary stuff, jim. >> yeah, i don't want to see

that outside of my window. to texas, panic at a basketball tournament after reports of a shooting that happened in the dallas suburb of manslaughter field, but there were no reports of shots fired. i know that when i go to events i am looking for the exits and if i were to hear something that i thought were gunshots and people were here reacting as i suppose all of us would. >> right. it is one of the stories that really captures sign of the times. police in mansfield say that there was an altercation that erupted at the basketball tournament at a fieldhouse there in manslaughter field. as you mentioned south of the dall dallas-fort worth area and the two men were removed from the fieldhouse and into the parking lot area when police say they one of the people went to their car and got a handgun. someone else in the parking lot

saw that and yelled shots fired, and then this panic ensued. >> come on. >> get down. come here. come here. >> what happened? what happened? >> a shooter. active shooter. >> what! >> reporter: and to add to the chaos in the gym, one of the parents running around hit a table, and that table fell over causing a loud boom in the gym, and you can imagine how all of that added to the chaotic moments as well. important to note in all of this, there were no shots fired, and police there in mansfield say they have identified the two men at the heart of the altercation, and they are investigating and so far, no criminal charges have been filed in this situation.

jim. >> seeing young people holding hands and running for the exits, and i can only imagine the fear and glad this is not real. ed lavandera. thank you. boris? >> today is the funeral for 18-year-old football player phildavios dale who was killed after going to the wrong home. and now after all of the attention of mass shooting, public polling shows that americans overwhelmingly support some reforms like universal background check, but no

momentum on capitol hill, and so i am wondering if there is any one piece of legislation that you have hope that may pass. >> well, you are exactly right. it is not just mass shootings though we have had more mass shootings this year than we have had days in the year which is incredibly tragic, but we are seeing the shootings at pool parties and prom parties and last week many parties where children or teens made simple mistake and armed and paranoid and racist men opened fire and wounding or killing them. so this is the reality that the gun lobby has created in this country and a populous that is armed to the teeth with very little regulation. my question is when is the guns going to make us safer? there are 400 million guns in this country and very few gun laws. it has not made us safer yet, and we have a 2,500 higher

homicide rate than any peer nation. so you ask about the momentum, and i have been doing this as a volunteer and last summer we passed the first federal gun laws in a generation. there is momentum in this country for stronger gun laws and there are some gun extremists elected to office who are standing in the way, but i am confident as i get ready to go into the election cycle that this issue is top of mind for every parent in this country regardless of the political party, and we have to vote out those lawmakers who are refusing to stand up to the gun lobbyists and making the children stand up to gunmen. >> shannon, you are raising an important point that if a good guy stops bad guy with the gun, and when is the country going to be safer, because it does not appear that the guns are making us safer at the clip that the shootings are happening. i wanted to point out that

graphic on gun violence and 162 children killed is the graphic on the board. this is showing that parents are overwhelmingly concerned about gun violence at school, and 77% say they are concerned, but it is not like that when i was in school, and something like columbine had not happened when i was in school. why is this? >> this is the leading cause of death among teens, and it is hor refk and something that parents should be worried about. you asked why we are seeing more of this and the fact that we allow the gun lobbyists help to write the gun law, and obviously, they are going to write the laws to help gun lobbyists and not safety. we have triple the guns in the country since the 1970s and yet we are seeing the state and particularly red states weaken the gun laws, and so this is the

logical outcome of unfettered access to guns and too few gun law, and i wanted to be clear that the gun laws work. data shows it. when you are looking at the states that pass stronger gun laws and we have done that in recent weeks in places like michigan and delaware and illinois and soon to be in minnesota, and washington state just passed the assault weapons ban, and so we know they work, and when we are looking at the red states like gun extremists elected to office, and weaken the gun laws on behalf of the gun lobby, we will see more gun violence and gun death, and that is intuitive but the data is going to bear it out. so we need the law at the federal level and until then, we will go school board by school board and city council by city council and statehouse by statehouse. >> shannon, i am interested in your perspective of the kind of person who is buying the weapons is changing and becoming younger

and more diverse. what do you make of that? >> well, look, we are still looking at the data, but besides having a 25 times higher rate, we have a wealthy and powerful special interest who is allowed a seat at the table to write our gun laws and marketing the guns to particularly white young men based on fear and considering your man card that we issued and the picture of the assault rifle. this has led to the proliferation of guns in the country and we will see the gun sales spike, because the gun lobby preys on the chaos, and why tens of millions of guns were sold in the pandemic in this country. look, there are countries that have high rates of gun ownership and low rates of gun violence. this is not hopeless. we should not be cynical, and we have made huge strides in the

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dozens of people who live in a south florida condo must evacuate their homes by tomorrow. the majestic isle condominium is deemed unsafe after failing inspection. they found dangerous sagging floors and termite damage as well. leyla santiago is there, and i was looking at the story and i think that this is informed in part by the surfside collapse, two year now, and do they have a lower threshold for this type of thing? >> well, those two buildings are five miles apart and yes, that is very much on the minds of some of the residents as well as officials, but when i was out there this morning, my take away was the frustration from a lot of the residents feeling overwhelmed like they are not given the assistance they need or the time to be able to get out and evacuate. so back up and talk about the sort of the time line. this is a building that was

built in 1960, and so they were coming up on the 60-year-old building recertification. that requires an inspection, and quite frankly, it didn't go well. engineers found the sagging floors and termite floors and partial collapse of the ceiling and given all of the water coming down in south florida. then thursday, the residents learned that they have to evacuate, and it is deemed unsafe and they have to get out, and now in the 24-hour window and less than 24 hours that they have to get out. again, the residents that i spoke to acknowledge that what happened in surfside and they have not forgotten it, but a sense of frustration. listen to some of the conversation that i had. >> moving on a super short notice is what i am doing today. >> reporter: how many days did you? >> since friday i guess. i'm a musician, so i worked

friday and working saturday and yesterday and i did not have too much time. >> and this is ceasar santana who also said to me, none of this makes sense to him, and he questioned some outside interests at play here. the mayor's office has said they are here to help. they do not want residents inside of a home that has been deemed unsafe offering to work with other businesses in the area to maybe find a place for them to stay if they don't have family or friends, but clearly something that the residents say is really sort of upending their lives until they figure out what is next, jim. >> sure, having to move out with hours notice is difficult for anybody. thank you, leyla. now, chaotic in jerusalem in where five people were hurt in what they are calling a terror attack. they say a man driving this car, and i will show you in a moment

rammed it into a crowded market. witnesses say the man was shot fatally. and stepping down, susan rice who is serving as domestic policy adviser is leaving next month. and president biden says no one is more capable and determined to get important things done for the american people than susan rice. disney is canceling the fire effects at the shows and theme parks after this happened over the weekend. an a animatronic dragon exploded into flames. everyone was safe. >> that is not part of the show. and we are learning that domestic violent extremists are sharing tactics on how to attack electric power stations. we have the details ahead.

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♪ all right. this just into cnn. a new government warning coming from the homeland security department. officials seeing an increasing amount of chatter online on how, specifically, to attack power stations. you may recall an attack last year in moore county, north carolina. someone shot up duke energy substations. officials say violent extremists see power stations as a, quote, low risk, high reward opportunity. let's speak to someone who used to be in the dhs. national security analyst julia keim. you had the attack in north carolina last year. there was another one in washington state around

christmastime. tell us how serious, how widespread, and why this particular focus on power stations. >> so there has been a consistent throughline of some of these attacks which they come from a radicalized right-wing element. there is an almost why that's true. it is anti-government. it is anti-infrastructure, in the sense of how do things work in our society. they want to attack that. the other aspect of it, it is low risk, relatively easy, and what we are starting to see, you know, the threat is coming from outside the perimeter. for someone who worked with critical infrastructure much of my career, your biggest threat is internal and safety features, right? could you protect the wires, protect from an internal threat? now, the threat is drones, drive-by shootings and potentially ieds o r r things t

are thrown. you can't safeguard against all of that. >> as i recall with this, the intention of the plotters was, in part, to spark a race war of some kind. you know, the theory being, you knock out the power, the city goes crazy and eventually people are attacking each other. what stuck out to me, stood out to me from the dhs report is they've expressed concern that, quote, gun attacks could become more appealing and spread to other infrastructure sectors, as well. that raises the problem of we have a lot to protect from a security perspective. >> yes, yeah. yeah, you have about a dozen and a half critical infrastructure systems in the united states from water to energy to cable and networks aboveground, below ground, in the water, all of it. we're a connected society, so the vulnerabilities will always be there. but one of the reasons for these bulletins isn't because there's a specific threat, but simply to warn the private sector, which tends, in this country, to basically own our critical

infrastructure, to be on the alert for this kind of threat. because this threat, as you said, this threat is not an end in and of itself. it's a means to an end. which is, in their skewed vision of the world, if you bring darkness, natural racial divisions will, you know, breed a violent civil war between blacks and whites. that's their vision. this is their starting line rather than their finish line, and that's the scary part. >> no question. it's the scary part. now, i wonder in terms of chatter here, because one thing the pentagon leak has revealed is security agencies don't really have access to these closed chat groups on something like a discord platform. is this kind of chatter being shared in places where authorities can peek in or not? or both? >> well, so -- both. so there are two pieces to this. one would, based on legitimate reasons for starting a search

that you could have law enforcement looking into some of these close sites because of a credible threat. so there's another reason why they're allowed to go in, and then they learn from it. the second is state laws tend to be different. states and localities may have transparency about what's happening in the right-wing, you know, social media sphere than the federal government would have authority for. let's also be clear, these people think that they are more popular than they are. the good news about this -- the bad news about this country is these people exist, right, that they want to start race wars. the badother news is they're no able to. this country, for all its divisions, is solidly against the kind of violence that these people perpetrate. they are sort of emboldened by thinking that they are stronger than they are, and they tend to do some of this stuff in public. that can be monitored legally.

>> i suppose the downside is they could also still do a lot of damage, even as a threatening minority, as we saw with the islamic terrorists, as well. ju juliette, thank you. president biden will sit down with the democratic tennessee lawmakers who faced expulsion votes over their protest over gun restrictions. we'll bring the meeting as it happens on "cnn news central." whoo! we gotta go again. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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