rainwater that wants to be released into the rivers and the valleys below. as the temperatures warm, we start to get outside more often and the concern is that people will want to cool themselves off in these rivers which is running very fast. and very cold. remember, you can lose body heat 25 times faster in cold water compared to that of cold air. when we look at the snowfall that occurred so far this season, it has been mind boggling. the southern sierra setting a snowfall pack equivalent to date of 324% of average. that snow water equivalent. they've never had that much snow in the mountains. going forward, looking across the state, the past three years we haven't even broken the average snow pack equivalent across the state. but this year, completely different story, caitlyn. 256% of average. and that water that wants to melt and that's the concern going forward. >> unbelievable. 256%. obviously, thinking about how they're prepared for this. derrick, i know you'll stay on it. thank you so much. >> we'll do.

>> "cnn this morning" continues right now. deep uncertainty on capitol hill over kevin mccarthy's plan to lock down the votes to get this passed. >> when you maxed out your credit cards, it's a pretty good time to evaluate your spending habits. >> no one in this country can afford the risk of default which is why republicans should take it off the table. >> e. jean carroll expected to take the stand today. >> they say donald trump raped carroll in a dressing room. >> trump's lawyers say she schemed. >> and two other women will testify who allege that trump forced himself on them can also take the stand. >> mastermind of the 2021 suicide bombing at kabul airport

has been killed by the taliban. >> the white house hasn't said when he was killed or how. the chairman of the house foreign relations committee said, quote, any time a terrorist is taken off of the board is a good day. but this does not diminish the biden administration's call pablt. -- culpability. >> incompetence, that's how a report describes the federal government's response to the covid pandemic. >> over 1.1 million covid deaths in the u.s. did not need to happen. >> if anything, we have a clear road map about what is needed. i just hope we really focus on putting those solutions in place. >> we care most about people that we as a society have thrown away. i wonder why that is. >> it takes 10, 20 years to do what i did in six months. and i didn't realize the fight at that time. >> do you think this will be your life's most meaningful work ahead? >> i hope so. i hope so.

>> good morning, everyone. happy wednesday. more on that interview with kim kardashian. we have a lot of headlines to get. to the woman that accused former donald trump of raping her could take the stand as part of her battery and defamation lawsuit against him. that's the columnist e. jean carroll. she's expected to testify along with an employee from the department store according to a source telling cnn as carroll, of course, is alleging that trump assaulteder in a dressing room at the department store in the mid 90s. those are allegations the former president has denied. >> i preceded into the dressing room. the minute he closed that door, i was banged up against the wall. >> he slammed you against the wall? >> yeah, and i hit my head really hard. zb >> these are allegations she made for many years. but now this is all coming to a head in court. on tuesday, a jury of nine people was em panelled for the case. six men and three women. and according to the judge, those jurors are going to be transported to the courthouse

actually in marshal up is vized vehicles. they'll go through a garage to avoid the crowds that they expect to form out sited courthouse. during opening statements, carroll's attorney revealed two other alleged victims of trump's are expected to testify because they want to showcase a pattern of what they say is alleged violent behavior. the attorney says three women, one clear pattern. start with a friendly encounter in a semipublic place. then pounce, kiss, grab, grope, don't wait. when you are a star, can you do anything you want. when they speak up about what happened, attack. humiliate them. call them liars. call them too ugly to assault. those are the comments from the attorney that is carroll's attorney speaking directly who spoke to what trump said on that "access hollywood" tape. >> trump said the accusations are a hoax and a lichlt he said, quote, this woman is not my type. attorneys for carroll are expected to show the jury this photo and point to a deposition that trump did in october 2022

where he mistook carroll for his ex-wife. it's marla, trump said when shown the photo. that is marla, yeah, that's my wife. breaking overnight, house speaker kevin mccarthy reversed course in the early hours of the morning and changed the debt limit bill that he put forward agreeing to make two major changes in a bid to try to get enough republican votes to pass in the house today. mccarthy and allies scrambled to find a way to convince holdouts to back the legislation. they're accelerating work requirements and when they go into infect by one year. that was a major ask by matt gaetz, for example, leaning against the bill last night. the number two request, change leadership says that it would not repeal some of the biofuel tax credits that caused major heart burn for some midwestern republicans in the house. and the timing here is important. there is a new fear that government could default on its debt as soon as early june

because of weak tax collections. so while mccarthy is trying to force president biden to negotiate on spending cuts that would gut his agenda, the white house is refusing to budge and vowing to veto mccarthy's bill if it somehow passes the house and the senate. let's talk about all this, where we are, where we're going get on the debt ceiling. happy to be joined this morning by the white house director of omb, office of management and budget. dr. young, thank you and good morning. >> good morning. how are you? >> i'm fine. there is a lot there. a lot changed at about 2:00 in the morning last night with mccarthy. given where we are in this bad news about weaker tax receipts, meaning the government got less money from us, the taxpayers, so that means we could default sooner, can you help the american people understand why the white house won't negotiate with kevin mccarthy on the debt ceiling? >> sure. let's take a step back and remember what we're talking about. this can seem incredibly

complicated for most meamerican don't follow this. it's not. it's very simple. what we see congressional republicans do is say, hey, we won't default. only if we get to cut millions of dollars to program that's help middle class and working families in this country. we think that's wrong. and we said from the beginning, default has to be off the table. remember, for the last president, bipartisan members of congress came together and avoided default three times. the only things that different is who sits in the white house. that's political games. that's brinksmanship. we're having to talk about spending levels. what is the appropriate spending level for programs? that's separate. we need to avoid default. >> separate for you. but mccarthy doesn't want it to all be separate. the congressional budget office came out this week and said that his plan would, i know you don't like it. and you point out where the cuts

are. but it would put about $4.8 trillion toward deficit reduction over the next ten years. and that's a huge concern. there is a new poll just from february. it shows americans not just republicans, not just democrats, americans across party lines are really, really worried about the deficit. why can't you do both things at once? >> look, actually is a separate process. i worked on it for almost 15 years in the house of representatives. it is called the appropriations process. >> yes. i understand that. >> as a matter of fact, in december, we worked in a bipartisan way to fund the government for the year. and by the way, don't be so sure that these savings get realized. this is why you don't see a full budget coming out of house republicans. because the tax agenda is not reflected in the document that they're set to vote on this week. and, remember, it is a state of policy and the republican party to support tax cuts that are skewed to the wealthy in this

country. you spend $3 trillion on tax cuts, you don't realize those savings in their bill. so that is a bait and switch. >> i think that's a fair point if we were to see something again like the 2017 tax cuts if republicans are in power. i think the issue is this is the only score we can go with right now. is what the cbo says and the nonpartisan, obviously. let's talk about the real impact then for american people. a few weeks ago we sat down with jamie dimon who the white house is talking a lot through this banking crisis. here's what he said the risk is, director young, about even getting close to a default in early june. >> the only question is how close they get to it before they do it. you'll feel the pain before it happens. >> how much pain, even if we don't default? >> i think it's a bad idea. and, you know, our government debt can be downgraded again. the closer we get to that, the

more we're going to damage all of that. and then you'll see it in the markets. >> you'll see it? >> and that will scare people. >> is the white house preparing for that possibility of what the real adverse impact will be for americans on jobs, income, livelihood, even getting close to the brink? >> look, we actually -- we agree with the last clip you played. that's why we continue to say default should not be a part of washington, d.c. brinksmanship. we know how to do this. bipartisan members, many of of them still in the house, on the republican side voted three times for the last president. it's a simple solution here. we shouldn't get close to the date. in 2011, i remember this. i worked in the house of representatives at the time. getting close to flirting with is detrimental to our full faith and credit in this country. it will cost american families. and we think that's wrong. so we agree with that. take it off the table. let's not have games. let's not have drama around this. congress needs to do the

constitutional duty. much. >> jamie dimon told me he does think there should be negotiations on this. look, you got some democrats finally, director in, congress privately told cnn that they think that the president should negotiate. they think he should sit down with kevin mccarthy and negotiate. it's too dangerous to not to. your leverage is unity. keeping the party together. how long can you keep that up if they're privately saying that? go ahead. >> i'm certainly not going to opine on private conversations. what i say is that democrats are united. n. s in saying that default is detrimental to americans. democrats know the meaning of what these budget cuts mean. are we really talking about cutting veterans medical care? that's what nondefense discretionary is. this is why it's vague on purpose. when people hear what these are, what they want in exchange for doing their job, people don't like it. veterans' medical care, meals on wheels, rail safety inspectors,

less tsa agents, the summer rush time at the airport. of that's wrong headed. so, if you want to have an honest conversation and negotiation, whatever you want to call it, about spending values and who you're for in this country, let's do that. this president put out a budget that gave us a pass to cut the deficit by almost $3 trillion over ten years. by the way, he was also honest about what his tax policy was. it was a full budget. he did that, republicans don't want to put their full picture out. we're happy to have that debate. not with hostage taking. >> director young, i appreciate your time. come back. thanks very much. >> thank you so much. >> got it. caitlyn? we're learning from the white house announcing the taliban has now killed isis k leader who was responsible for planning that 2021 bombing that happened at the kabul airport. that was the attack, of course that, took place during the final days of the chaotic u.s.

withdrawal from afghanistan. it killed 13 american service members and more than 170 afghans. the white house did not release the leader's name. they have confirmed he was kill earlier this month and that the u.s. was not involved in this operation. right now it is unclear whether or not the taliban was specifically targeting him or killed as a result of taliban efforts to crack down on isis k, that terrorist cell, throughout the country. also here in the united states, there is a new grims statistic. a report found that u.s. actually experienced more casualties from active shooter situations in 2022 than the last several years altogether. our chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller is tracking this report. john, this had is just to look at this and to see how the numbers have changed over the years, it's hard to even fathom how much it's gone up. >> it really s and the fbi is tracking this more carefully. looking not just for numbers but for answers. this report was actually only

released publicly about ten minutes ago. but what it tells us is the active shooter in the united states, 50 shootings in 25 states every day of the week has an active shooter occurrence. when he look it he cost of that, though, go back to 2018. you see 225 casualties. 2019, 258. what happens in 2020 is covid. and you see a sharp decrease because people are on lockdown and people at home. but by 2021, it is spiking back up to 243. and then 2022, 313. we're going in the wrong direction, obviously. >> by quite a significant amount. of course, the big question, of course, is what this means about guns. what that looks like in the united states. i know that was a big part of this report. what did you learn? what are takeaways when it comes to firearms being used by the

shooters? >> interesting. we think of the active shooter, the ak-47, ar-15. but when you look at the weapons broken down, it comes to about half rifle and half pistols. you know, it's -- it's nothing you would minimize. if you go back to virginia tech shooting, that was an individual with two pistols who, you know, achieved a record body count which, you know, it's about the g guns, not the type. >> and how they're used, of course. the big question when they do a report like this going in the wrong direction, people want to know what is the solution? how do you fix this? what are the takeaways? >> so, the study goes deep. this is a really interesting caveat. we talk about mass shootings. mass shootings and active shooters are different. every active shooter intends to be a mass shooting but not every mass shooting is an active shooter. >> what do you mean by that? >> the fbi definition of an active shooter, someone that planned to go somewhere and

shoot a bunch of strangers. it's like nashville, louisville, you know, workplace, school. the mass shooting is also occur during criminal activity, gang violence, drug violence, you know, criminals that involve shootouts with other criminals. so, this is a separate category. if you go bypass shootings last year, you know, there is 163 -- actually this year, 163 mass shootings. we kept saying during louisville, there have been more mass shootings than we've had days in the week. >> yeah. >> but studying the psychology of the active shooter is important because what you're looking for is predictors. so far the fbi behavioral science people, i was talking to the row nenowned profiler last . there is a connection with domestic violence. there is also leakage. in a very high percentage, 85% to 95% of active shooters we find them either telling people directly what they're going to do before it happens or giving

broad hints that could have been identified if people reported it. >> all that so important. we're going to try to get this to go in the other direction of what we were seeing earlier. you have to know how it happens. john miller, thank you for your takeaways from that report. really interesting. >> also another report, a scathing report, examines how the united states handled the covid outbreak and whether this country is ready for another possible pandemic. doctor anthony fauci joins "cnn this morning" to respond. ♪ you said closose your eyes ♪ ♪ don't look down ♪ ♪ fall l into me and i'll catch you, darlin ♪ ♪ we'll dance in the street likeke nobody's watching ♪ ♪ it's just you and me ♪ celebrate every kiss. get zero down special financing with the kay jewelers credit card. from prom dresses

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welcome back. with the united states set to end the covid emergency declarations next month, are we ready? is america going to be ready for the next pandemic? the outlook is not great according to a new assessment called lessons from the covid war. it answers that question with a definitive no. the report from a leading panelist and public health experts, physicians and federal advisors blames incompetence in governance fork america's lackluster response to covid. they warn it could happen again. the report also found that out

of 1.2 million american deaths, 500,000, roughly, could have been prevented. even though the u.s. government spent $5 trillion dealing with the pandemic, better preparedness could have saved lives and money. dr. michael osterhome is one of the members. he sums up america's failure to combat covid like this. >> i think one of the first things was that we couldn't imagine that this would happen and, therefore, we did not think it would happen. the second thing is we lacked humility. we need to be able to say we're not certain about. this we don't know. and then third, i think is that it got politicized. this virus didn't care if you were republican or democrat or old or young. it went at you. >> for more on all this let's bring in anthony fauci, the former chief medical adviser to president biden and the former director of the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases and the subject of a wide-ranging and sometimes contentious interview

that was published this week in the "new york times" magazine where he reflects upon the successes and also the missteps of america's own pandemic response. good morning, dr. fauci. thank you for being here. i want to start with this -- >> good morning. >> -- this after action assessment that we're seeing from the people. these people you know very well. they say the u.s. had a more disappointing pandemic response than other countries. would you agree with that characterization? >> yeah. there were a lot of problems, caitlyn that, we had. we had a fractionated response. as mike just mentioned, there was a lot of politicalization. we thought we were the best prepared country in some respects from a scientific standpoint as manifested by the overwhelming success of the rapid development of the vaccine than we did very well. but when it came to the implementation of public health, the uniformity of a response, the communication, the ability

to get data in real time, we really fell very short. hopefully the lessoned learned from that type of a really strict analysis of what went wrong will help prepare us for future pandemics. but no doubt about it, there were a lot of things that we didn't do as well as we could and we got to do better not only in the continued response to the current outbreak but in preparation for the inevitability of future outbreaks. >> yeah. that's why this is so important, to look back at what happened. not just to criticize people, but to learn, to see what can be changed going forward. the public health emergency is actually ending in about two weeks. do you think it's the right time for that to end? >> there is obviously debate about that. i think in general we really need to move forward so long as we don't leave a big gap in being able to take care of the people who may not have available to them now the things that were very, very important to them at the time that we had all of the issues that were

related to the emergency. we want to be able to have a safety net for them to be able to get drugs and be able to get vaccines. so those things don't fall between the cracks. if we take care of that, i think it's important to move forward and everybody wants this outbreak behind us. we want to make sure we don't just forget about it completely because we still have about 150 deaths per day and there are still a lot of virus out there. so we can't just completely forget about it. we have to continue to pay attention to it. >> yeah. a lot of questions about what the effects of that ending will will look like. i want to get into this -- excuse me -- this "new york times" interview you did. really just basically looking at the back at how you handled it, the u.s. handled it overall. you talk about being perceived as the per son fiction of restrictions. you had this quote that stood out to me, show mae a school tht i shut down or fakctory that i shut down.

never. i gave a public recommendation and people made a decision based on that. now, i don't have to tell you that people who have criticized your response have seized on that comment in particular to say, yeah, you weren't directly responsible for elementary schools closing or what not but because of the recommendations that came from you and other top public health officials, those are decisions you saw schools make and governors make and you understand the influence your recommendations had on decisions like that, right? >> well, that's true, caitlyn. the point that i made in my response to the reporter and "the new york times" article was that what it is that there was a per person fiction of me as someone that closed everything down. those were public health recommendation that's came from the cdc. i have always been very supportive of the cdc because they base their recommendations purely on public health issues. the point that i made that as

public health officials, it's our responsibility to give the public health perspective to it. the decision of how that balances with other considerations really comes from other authorities. authorities who have things other than just the public health to be concerned about. economic and other considerations. so, that's the point i was making. i was not trying to shun away from responsibility. we made a public health recommendation based on sound public health principle. that is not the only issue that you need to consider when you're in the middle of an outbreak. >> right. >> you have to consider a number of other things and that's the point we were making. >> a lot of parents and teachers would say, well, yeah. the cdc when they made the recommendations, they should have considered the effects that learning wlosloss would have. do you agree with that? >> i believe you have to consider a variety of other things. but, remember, at the time that the shutdown occurred, i mean,

you have to distinguish, caitlyn, between the crisis at the point when our hospitals were being overrun and we were having cooler trucks to put bodies in because we didn't have enough room at a morgue, that's when things shut down. the real issue is how long do you keep that shut down? how long do you keep the schools closed? and if you recall, and go back many of the things i've said in a lot of interviews is that he with have to do bhawhatever we do to get the schools open and get them open safe and keep them open. i said that many, many times. the initial decision early on in the middle of that crisis i believe was the right decision. how long you kept them closed really varied depending on the locale. >> masking is one of the most divisive parts of covid, whether you wore one or had to wear one. a striking comment that you made in this interview, you said from

a broad public health standpoint, the population level, masks work at the margins. maybe 10%. you once said a national mask mandate can work. p that comment saying they work at the margins 10% i think would raise a lot of eyebrows given so many people had to wear a mask, whether they were on a plane, in certain public facilities, to hear they only work 10% would make a lot of people ask, okay, why was i wearing a mask for so many times? >> you know, caitlyn, we have to be careful. if you read very carefully what i said, if you look at the broad public health effect, when you have masks that are so-called mandated or supposed to be worn, because so many people don't wear them, even though they're in an arena in which masks are supposed to be worn, they don't wear them properly from a public health standpoint on the cohort of people, the effect can be only marginal. it was 10, 13% or so.

but for the individual who religiously wears a properly fitted mask, the effect is much, much, much better than that. it's 85%, 90% or more. so we were trying to distinguish between what the broad effect on a population is when you have mask wearing versus the effect of the individual who rel religiously and properly wears the mask. there say big difference there. that's what we were referring to about on the margins versuse an individual effect on a person. >> like a doctor, someone used to doing this. in hindsight, when you look at this, do you think the mask mandates were a mistake? >> you know, i -- caitlyn, i don't want to say a mistake. i think we really need to remember next time we're c confronted with this when you have doubt in the minds of people about who something works

or not, we better try to reach out and be a better explainer of why we feel these things are important. because whenever, particularly in our country with free spirit which we all embrace, that people are being told what to do very often has the opposite effect. that's what i was referring to in that interview. >> yeah. i know you said something about vaccine requirements as well. one last question. something else that was at the end of your interview. you referenced the work you did with hiv and aids and the outreach that you felt changed how that response was. your outreach to that community specifically. you said, i've always felt when people are pushing back at you, even though in many respects often left field somewhere, there always appears to be a kernel of truth. we need to reach out now and find out exactly what it was that made them push back. referencing people who did have problems wearing a mask. and the vaccine requirement.

who do you think should be doing that outreach before there is another pandemic if it is inevitable as you say? >> you know, caitlyn, i think we all should be doing it. i believe public health officials should be doing it. people who are political leaders should be doing it. the point i was making at the end, i he felt very, very sincerely. there was a lot of, you know, opposition of do this, don't do this, people pushing back. those people could not all be wrong. we have to understand what the underlying reason, why they were pushing back. what looked like completely valid public health principles. we were not doing something completely correctly. we can't have those many people who are fundamentally good people, yet they're pushing back on things that are life saving. we have to figure that out. we have to reach out to those people and not make them the opposition. that's the point i was making. >> all right.

it's good to look back at all this obviously. the questions about what happens when there is another pandemic. dr. fauci, thank you for your time. >> i twhink what is so importan about that is hearing reflection. and what worked as much as they thought, what might not have worked and what could be done differently given that report. >> it is a question of what happens going forward. there is also a lot of anger and animosity across the country. that doesn't surprise anyone over covid and how it was handled and what could be done better and, of course, how you rely on institutions like the cdc and others. >> and schools. and learning laoss. >> absolutely. >> great conversation. keeping up, switching dwegears with the kardashians, she is a criminal justice reform advocate. we may not be able to keep up but i did catch up with her yesterday and i asked about the fight to release a prisoner that

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kim kardashian-west. >> yes. >> we all remember that day. that was alice marie johnson in to 18 thanking kim kardashian for thanking for helping her get out of prison. she lobbied donald trump on her behalf convincing him to commute her sentence for a first time nonviolent drug offense. it's a moment that kim told me changed the entire trajectory of her life. she has become relentless in using her platform to advocate for criminal justice reform and she says she is now pretty close to becoming a lawyer, possibly full time. and this shocked me, possibly away from the cameras that made her a star. had the opportunity to sit down with her yesterday. at the time 100 summit here in new york. here's part of that conversation. you are always in the spotlight. yet, you care most about people that are never in the spotlight. you care most about people that

we as a society have thrown away. i wonder why that is. >> i think experience, maybe just life experiences, positive, negative, becoming a mom, you know, life changes you. i think you get to a point where you have experiences that just change you. and when i met alice and i felt like it was a fairly easy experience for me when i know it shouldn't be to help get someone out. it takes 10, 20 years to do what i did in six months. and i didn't realize the fight at that time. to me, that was a few phone calls. and that really struck me that, you know, however it was done, it was done.

i'm so grateful. but, like, that -- the -- that process has to change. >> i think you're selling yourself short though. van jones, one of your biggest cheerleaders, good friend of ours at cnn, told me this about you. there is nobody like kim. she is in a category of her own. she takes every case so seriously. she'll have read the file with more care than the attorneys. she'll know the case backwards and forwards in every meeting. do you think this will be your life's most meaningful work ahead? >> i hope so. i hope so. i always joke with my mom who is my manager. of i say, kim k is retiring and i'm just going to be an attorney. >> kim esquire. >> yeah. so, can you go help my siblings. >> are you -- what about my 10%?

>> i'm giving her the heads up. >> would you ever consider a life without the cameras? >> yeah. absolutely. i do feel like i have a -- there's a lot that's always on tv and a lot that is always out there. but i think my friends and my family know we really cherish a lot of our private times. i would be just as happy being an attorney full time and doing that. the journey just really opened up my eyes to so much that i just, it gets overwhelming. there is so much to be done. i just, you know, i brought my sister khloe to a prison for the first time last week. and that was really eye opening for her. and i just -- i would totally spend more time doing that. cameras, no cameras. >> i don't think, you know, we know your success stories with

alice johnson, for example. but what not everyone knows is that you've also had efforts where you haven't been able to help that person get off death row. you were the last phone call for one inmate being executed. i remember seeing you in tears, so shaken because of that. what is that like to feel when you can put all your weight behind something and you still lose them? >> it's such an -- i don't know the word for it. but it's just like a really emotional experience. and, so, with that brandon bernard case that you're speaking of, he was executed, it was really important for him to -- to allow me to tell his story. and i think that my role in all of this is to story tell and to explain people's stories and their histories. i really think people would

understand. and, you know, president trump did understand once he started to hear these stories instead of just seeing their cases. went in being so pro death penalty and really hard on crime to opening up his heart and realizing that so many people are inside that don't deserve to be and have completely rehabilitated themselves. he passed a bill, the first step act, and i think almost 30,000 people have been let out because of the story telling of one woman that changed his mind. so, i think story telling and i think that's what mi role is to, like, really explain what people have been through to hopefully change the bigger picture. >> you talk to -- [ applause ] >> have you talked to president biden about this? >> we have reached out. he has not done any meetings.

there is actually -- van and i were talking about a situation of a guy that got out and they're actually trying to put them back in. >> fair to say you would like a meeting in the oval office? >> i would love one. i would love one. >> he's running again, if you haven't heard. >> i heard. i heard. >> to the victims' families, there are victims' families who say, no. they don't support the work you're doing. what do you say to them? >> i completely understand that as well. and i -- my empathy and belief in rehabilitation doesn't take away my compassion for what they've gone through as a family. and i do want -- and the people that i'm helping feel the same exact way. and we've had conversations about that. i completely understand when someone reaches out. the families do reach out sometimes. and i completely empathize with them as well.

so, they're not wrong. and everyone has their own journey. and i think i just have to focus on what i think is the right thing. i will will always believe that people are deserving of second chances. >> it was remarkable to hear from her and watch and really see what she is doing with this platform and what she is dedicating her life to. let's talk about it with someone he heard about in that conversation, van jones. he continues to work closely with kim kardashian on all of these fronts. good morning, van. >> good morning. >> you call it, to me, we talked a lot before this interview, the kim kardashian effect. >> yes. that's the kim i know. you know, on the flash and stuff that people talk about, how sober she was, how seriously she takes this. and it is really true. she's not wrong. lawyers like myself, you will spend 10 years, 20 years on a case and sometimes lose when someone like kim kardashian, she has more instagram followers

than some countries have people, okay? so, when she reaches tout a governor or a senator or president, they return the call. and sometimes that's all you need is just for someone to focus on the case. and these cases, some of them are just horrible. you can't believe somebody's going to do life for a nonviolent drug offense or somebody, you know, even the people who fight against them and recounted 15 years ago and said they were lying and that person may still be put to death. but you can't get any attention. kim picks up the phone and suddenly people are paying attention. and as i've said a million times, she's often more prepared than the lawyers. she is often read more of the cases, background stuff. so she does an extraordinary advocate. i love seeing criminal justice reform advocate under a name not celebrity because that's who she's become. >> interesting to me to hear her say she wants a meeting with president biden. the president's time is precious. she did note he hasn't commuted anyone's sentence yet.

that is something the president's empowered to do. what is your sense of what she would bring to president biden? what would be on her agenda? >> i think what she's been successful is in two areas, one is moving forward with cases where you're looking for clemency and people who are wrongfully convicted or j just have ridiculous sentences to give them a chance to come home earlier. she was benefitted with that with donald trump and governors. she has incredible xber tees in t -- expertise in that area. of she also got the first step act passed. and there is the equal act which is a very important bill that would balance the crack versus cocaine. of she is an effective advocate when it comes to legislation and litigation. she is just -- she is our stee cr -- secret weapon for criminal

justice, she really is. >> sthe called for a full pardo with the attorney general of oklahoma and is taking steps no attorney general there has ever taken before, trying to get him a new trial. >> yes. >> do you think she could be impactful knowing the system in oklahoma and knowing the appeals court denied that request? >> it's tough. you know, miracles are always possible when the truth is on your side. that's the thing that we learned over and over again. it's really -- i think we have a criminal justice system that is much more broken than people know. many more people -- if you just had a different lawyer or live in a different zip code or different skin color or more money to pay for one more investigator, you would be home with your kids. but instead, you're sitting there on death row or sitting there in solitary confinement for decades. you can be a difference maker. by the way, it's not just celebrity like a kim kardashian. she'll tell you, anybody, if you step outside of that lane, if you care about an issue,

criminal justice, underprivileged kids, whatever it, is you can make a much bigger difference on an issue than you know pt she had no idea she could do this stuff. people were watching that this can make a tremendous difference in their own area and own life and own neighborhood. it's just the great thing about kim is that she stepped outside of the norm and she found a whole different world for herself. that's not just kim kardashian that, is true for all of us. >> call to action. >> call to action. >> call to action for a lot of us. how much justice can you afford, that famous cartoon. remember that? >> yeah. >> the real question of disparity on so many fronts zbl. >> i appreciate you being interested whether it is kim or other people, you do a great job lifting the issues. i was very proud to see kim yesterday. >> thanks, van. >> all right. less than three months the u.s. women's soccer team is going to look to defend its back to back world cup championships. all of this as the u.s. soccer program is undergoing major

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they were rocked by a scandal following a 2022 cup in qatar. the coach assaulted his then-girlfriend, now his wife. it was reported to u.s. soccer officials but their apparent motivation was dissatisfaction their son was the star midfielder was not getting enough playing time. an investigation cleared the coach but raised concerns about the organization's policies around parental conduct, how they communicate with staff. u.s. soccer's new sporting director matt crocker, thank you for being here. we want to get into what that is going to look like with the search for the new coach. you have some exciting things happening going forward when testimonies could to the women's team. what are you most excited about right now? >> you have some key tournaments coming up. so the world cup in the summer for the women's team, australia and new zealand. i guess that's a fantastic

opportunity for us to defend, stay world number one. the team has been world number one for 12 of the last 13 years and we want to keep pushing forward and lead the way in women's soccer. >> women's soccer, u.s. women's soccer, have been champions for a long time, multiple times. what do you think is ahead for them not only in the world cup but beyond? >> the difficulty is the chasing pack is coming quick. there has been a huge amount of investment in women's soccer across the board and more professional teams in europe, more leagues, which means that the women are fitter, stronger, training full time. they are more tactically and technically aware in the gap between world's best. they are chasing hard. we have got a real challenge to stay on top. we think we know where the competitive advantages are and we are working hard to stay on top. >> what has changed? when you are closing that gap and it changes the nature of how you prepare for something like in australia, how does it change

things behind the scenes? what are you doing differently? >> it's just to look at the on the field staff. but the off the field staff is equally important. the culture around the team. making sure psychologically we stay ahead. the mental side is a really massive important part of the game. it's not just the technical or the tactical stuff that takes place on the field. so much goes behind the performance element to make sure that the women are in great shape to make sure they are successful on the field. >> let's talk about the search for new men's coach. we noted, explained the gregg berhalter situation. he has been cleared. he said the lesson learned came the foundation of a loving devoted supported relationship. given that happened, given he was cleared, is he still a candidate for the job? >> i guess my job is to look at the process that we are going to be leading going forward. there is a number of key things when you appoint a national head coach. and the big challenge is not

coaching every day on the field with the players because you only get the players between six and eight times a year. you have to have a coach equally adept at working behind the scenes, following and tracking the players when they are away in international gt, planning for events. a big part of being a head coach is around leadership really. so we are really looking for a strong leader to lead the program going forward. so my job is to identify the process, make sure we get the behaviors right of the coach, what style of play we want to play. more importantly, get the right leader to lead the staff into 2026. >> you have a big role in that. obviously, there is a board as well. what does that look like? what are your standards for whoever is going to be the next coach? >> i mentioned there is a certain style we want to promote, a soccer style. what you would have seen in the 2022 world cup, fast, technically strong.

you know, we can use data to identify some coaches that really align to our style of play and then clearly there is some leadership and cultural elements that we want to have. we want to produce young men and women in both our teams that take ownership and responsibility, can be future role models. it's not just responsibility on the pitch. there is a massive responsibility off the pitch as well. >> to the point you just said, the 2022 team, that was berhalter's team. does that mean he is still a candidate? >> of course. we want to identify the right candidate to take us forward into 2026. my job is to make sure we choose the right head coach. >> thanks for taking time to join us this morning. >> thank you. this just in. ukrainian president volodymr zelenskyy says he spoke with chinese president xi jinping. what it could mean for russia's war in ukraine. plus, a manhunt underway for four inmates who escaped a jail

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