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good morning, everyone. we begin this hour with breaking news overnight. last-minute changes to house speaker kevin mccarthy's debt limit bill. the rules committee worked through the night, ajudge at 5:20 this morning as mccarthy scrambles for republican support ahead of today's possible vote. breaking news just in. ukrainian president zelenskyy has just had a conversation with chinese president xi jinping. that's notable. they had not spoken since before russia invaded ukraine. also, a multi-state manhunt underway this hour for four inmates who escaped from a mississippi jail. one them accused of killing a man and stealing his truck after breaking out of prison. where that investigation is this morning. this hour of "cnn this morning" starts right now. ♪ we begin on the u.s. economy

and breaking news. house speaker kevin mccarthy reversing course and making big changes to his debt limit plan in the early morning hours as he scrambles to try to get enough republican votes to get it passed. >> without objection, the committee is adjourned. >> notice that said this morning, like five hours ago, less than. three hours ago. >> right. the rules committee working through the night. the gavel came down after 5:00 a.m., we should say. >> here is why this matters. kevin mccarthy said there wouldn't be changes. but there were two big changes. number one, they are going to allow proposed work requirements for medicaid beneficiaries to be implemented on a faster timetable. an ask by matt gaetz. the other change, leadership says they would not repeal some of those biofuel tax credits that caused major heartburn for midwest earn congressmen.

rai it's growing more likely the government could default as soon as early june if congress does not act. of course, we have talked about that could lead to an economic disaster. for more on that we want to bring in christine romans. mccarthy saying he is not going to change the planl. he changed it overnight. the senate said this is dead on arrival but it's important because house republicans will still have to vote. >> absolutely. you couldn't get the mid-western republicans without the wie owe fuel tax to stay. they want to speed up the timelines to work requirements with medicaid and other programs. these were things he had to do to get the numbers onboard. that's the political football the debt ceiling has become here. the loser in the football game is the american people and american living standards. this is what we know we are facing and we are facing this a lot sooner than we thought. tax receipts are down 35% from the same time last year.

that means less money is coming in in the tax season. that money is being used to pay the bills because after january 19th we couldn't kobori any more money. >> it's coming sooner than we thought. early june this x date and they are running out of time for a compromise here. >> i think it's fascinating that literally how much people pay the government in their taxes affects when this could happen. >> what you heard from the white house budget director how concerned they are if they don't actually come to an agreement. >> the risk of a debt default is not zero it would cripple global markets, probably cause treasury prices to fall, yields to rise, borrowing costs to nice, stock market crashes, decline in dollars, people are selling treasuries and the dollar which would undermine international economies. the risks are just terrible all around. so as we talk about the political horse trading i want to step back and say this is the

outcome for the american people is very, very bad here. another thing, look, what republicans want to do is save $4.8 trillion over the next decade. that's how they scored mccarthy's plan. moody's ran the numbers. so, okay, you're talking about ten years of spending cuts. spending cuts would slow the economy. in the near term, real gdp up 1.6% next year under the mccarthy plan compared with the clean bill the president wants, 2.25% gdp. republicans who want to slow the economy, that's what that plan does, and moody's says that 780,000 jobs will be lost if you go back to 2022 spending levels and talk about these cuts. >> wow. i just wish we had you by our side all day to explain that. >> or maybe on capitol hill. >> yeah, maybe on their side. thank you. >> they speak a different language about had on capitol hill than they do in global

economic centers. >> they certainly do. let's go to capitol hill. we have got republican congressman brian mast of florida who is there on the florida affairs committee, a republican. congressman, thanks for being with us this to morning. i know that republicans are working late into the night last night. do they have the votes to get if passed? >> aisle found out at 9:00 a.m. there was a lot that was mentioned there. if you want to unpack any of it, i look forward to talking about it. >> there was a lot mentioned there. the concerns you heard what christine said about the moody's analysis about 780,000 jobs being lost are from this. on the votes today, you will find out at 9:00 a.m. when republicans will meet. do you think this vote is actually going to happen today? >> i think this vote happens today. let's talk about the d.c. sausage, how it's made. this is a vote that moves something over to the senate. you can count on the fact that there will be another vote after this, whether it's in a week or a month, because something will

come back from the senate with republicans and democrats over there, whatever the president has to say after that. there will have to be another vote for whatever comes out of all of that. >> yeah, that's right, because the senate said, you know, regardless this proposal is dead on arrival but the republicans still have to vote together to get it passed. right now they don't have the votes. do you have any concerns, have you had concerns are from republican lawmakers about voting on this, putting their name and vote on the record when it comes to things like the new work requirements, something that was changed overnight, blocking biden's move on student debt, are there concerns about putting their name on that even if it's not actually going to happen? >> i haven't heard concerns about that. matt gaetz and i spoke about the work requirements and i use myself as an example. i am never being to be 100% in life. i lost two legs and a finger and the point that i'm making sheer is that just because we are not 100% doesn't mean that we are work capable. we have to get the point in america people go to work, have that pride that you get from

going out there and producing and bring bringing home and that has to be a part of it. we talked about that in length. everybody else on the table, you talked about growing the economy, that has to happen. you can't with the inflation reduction act in place destroying american energy policy and making energy more expensive for americans. that can't be something that takes place. and you talked about lower tax resets. that's a part of this conversation as well because what we're talking about dealing with, if there is lower tax resets, we should be paying attention to where americans' tax dollars are going. it's not even redistribution of wealth. it's redistribution of anybody that's paying taxes, whether it's what's going on with the tax you are going to be charged because you have a good credit score with a mortgage or paying somebody else's student loan. those are the things on the table to say let's axe those bad policies for america. let's grow the economy. let's claw back toll doers. that makes sense to most people i talk to. >> if we are talking about americans' tax receipts, part of

what republicans are passing here cut back the number of irs agents and the funding that president biden wanted to add to the irs there. that's a little bit ironic. kevin mccarthy said there weren't going to be any changes to this. late there were changes that were made. do you think there will be any other changes made to in? >> i know there will be proposals this morning as we go into that 9:00 a.m. meeting. but kevin mccarthy making changes, talking about this, dealing with the whole of his conference, that is the difference between what is going on in the house and what is going on in the white house right now. they haven't spoke with mccarthy in weeks, if not months, about this. they are not willing to deal with this as an issue other than to say we are not interested in cutting any of this wasteful spending, throwing away of the taxpayer dollars, people getting up and going to work this morning, they are not interested in doing that. that's the difference of what's taking place. >> the white house said yesterday they are willing to meet with mccarthy when it comes to talking about the budget, not the debt limit and the

conditions republicans want to put on that. i want to ask you about something else. of course, you are a republican, but ukraine/r-- you are also fr florida. you endorsed donald trump even though it's widely assumed your home state governor will be running for the nomination. why did you pick trump over desantis? >> take any issue that you could bring up on this show, dealing with china and trade policy or china and taiwan or vladimir putin specifically, russia, ukraine, the way we are going to educate our kids in america or the southern border, anything that you could bring up and i could tell you the person that i want dealing with that is donald j. trump. it's not george w. bush in his prime or mitt romney or certainly not joe biden. he has proven that. not that he had to be elected for him to prove that to me. but the list goes on. the one person that i want dealing with those issues, the way that he dealt with them before, is donald j. trump and he has my full support. >> desantis do you think -- when you mentioned foreign policy, is it because he doesn't have the

foreign policy credentials? what is it about him? >> there is not a what about desantis that i don't like -- he is my governor. i love his policies as governor. but president trump has put the policies in place as the chief executive of the united states of america, delivering for americans. you want to talk about the difference in tax receipts? something that was said earlier between under biden right now and under donald j. trump and what was taking place there? the way that americans had a secure border. we were looking for things that made since for america in an unashamed way and that was a lightning in the bottle moment of american history with what was taking place. and it's been destroyed in a matter of a couple of years. and we can right the ship of america if we go back to fighting for america, which joe biden loves to bash. he says, you can call everybody a maga republican and that's an insult to say somebody wants to make america great again. that's the wrong direction. >> we have see who the republican nominee is going to

be. quickly, did you hear anything from desantis himself or his world when it came to your endorsement? did they try to get your endorsement? >> i spoke to them, let them know this is was taking place -- >> what did they say? >> they said okay. look, when i speak, i make it very clear that this is the position i have analyzed and the position i am taking and so it was a done deal at that point. >> a done deal. all right. congressman brian mast, we will see what happens in that meeting you have coming up with republicans to see whether or not that vote happens today as you predicted. thanks for your time. >> all the best. >> fascinating interview. what a pointen the irs agents as well. this just in. significant breaking news as well. chinese president xi jinping spoke with ukrainian president volodymr zelenskyy on the phone this morning. this is the first time that the two leaders have talked since russia invaded ukraine. zelenskyy said in a statement about the call, it was a long and meaningful conversation. last month xi jinping visited

ruby presid russian president vladimir putin for talks where they posed as peace brokers for russia's invasion of ukraine. no one better to help us understand the significance of this than our chief international anchor christiane amanpour who has covered this extensively. how big is it? >> look, it's big. i mean, these guys have been saying they would talk ever since xi went to his good buddy for life vladimir putin in moscow. >> best friends, they said. >> best friends, no holds barred alliance. a troubling alliance because to seems to be a growing alliance against the united states in the west. russia, china, iran, et cetera. the thing is, what did president xi say to president zelenskyy? china is a massive partner, especially in the past. a massive economic partner for ukraine. but china's view of being a peace broker up until now has meant parroting vladimir putin's position. so right now, unless something

changed on that phone call, there is no real way for china to show that it is an honest broker and not just carrying water for president putin. this is a problem because some other democratic leaders such as president lula, left wing, china is his own autocratic camp. this is a president who doesn't believe in the u.s. support of ukraine and believes there should be some kind of peace to be brokered. obviously, everybody would like it that. but the conditions, according to ukraine, are not yet right for that. >> it's interesting to hear zelenskyy's take of the call saying it was long, meaningful and that that call in addition to ukraine's ambassador to china being a appointed he believes will give a powerful imp tess to the development of bilateral -- >> the two have had a call. there is a read out, as often happens. it's an important thing that the two leaders have spoken. china is a massive, massive player as we all know. the question is, what is the

quality of that conversation and what is china prepared to do to pressure his, you know, xi's best friend putin to actually come to the table and stop what is generally deemed by the united nations as an illegal reinvasion of ukraine. so that is really the key. and the real key is whether the united states and its allies will remain really vested in this process of defense that they have put so much into until there is a position where ukraine is militarily capable of putting pain to russia and, therefore, creating the conditions for a negotiation. right now russia doesn't have to negotiate. it's doing badly, but, you know. >> no one is on ywinning. >> right. and that's the problem. alexey and navalny and the upda we have on him? >> so, look, vladimir putin considers alexey navalny as well as ukraine an existential threat. they want to bring democracy and

an end to the autocratic eregim of putin and try to speak recruit, ukraine in the way it acts as an independent and democratic state and a half and a half as the key opposition. so putin and the regime there is just over and over again adding more charges, more threats, more court appearances. so now he is facing two trials and cases, one of extremism, one of terrorism, what the difference is, i am not sure. his family says he has bin given ten days to go through a massive dossier. and this is what putin does. he tries to make relevant his opposition and that's what is happening. >> to see that picture we just had shows how much thinner alexey navalny is now. he lost, i think, 17 pounds in two weeks, which is just -- i mean, it's awful to see the condition he is being treated in. the other reason we wanted to have you on today because we cover what happened in afghanistan. you were there for that as well.

hearing the news from the white house that the mastermind of that suicide bombing that happened at the kabul therapy killed 13 u.s. troops now has been killed by the tail, what do you make of that and the fact that the pentagon says we weren't involved in this? >> that's what i gather from my sources in afghanistan who i called before coming here. according to the pentagon, we reached out two and a half weeks, early april, i am hearing that also from the sources in afghanistan. it happened in the southern part of the country, i was told it happened by their intelligence services. it may have been a targeted hit after having found this person. my source said to me, whether or not this was the person who masterminded the abbey gate assassination and the bomb attack is irrelevant to us. they would say that, right? they don't want to say they are helping the united states. but what we want to do is make sure that isis-k is decapitated. this is important for us anyway and isis-k is a threat to the

taliban, not just to the u.s. and the general area. so they want -- they were sorry, they said to me, news of this had broken into the public because they fear that will be a recruitment tool for isis-k in the region. and then i asked how things are doing because clearly the women's issue is an absolute abomination there and they have lied, lied, lied. the u.s. pulled out, handed the place back to the taliban. the taliban lied and women are, and girls, completely and utterly res utterly wretched, unable to go to school. it's a terrible situation. my source, who belongs to the morning, if there is such a thing, pragmatic kabul-based wing of the taliban, says this is a terrible crisis for all of us. we need our women to go back to school and work. the fundamentalists in kandahar are not allowing that to happen. >> so many of us ask that question of the biden administration to lawmakers

around that time what will you do if this progress for women is reverted -- >> they are not doing anything. and also afghanistan potentially, there is new worries, it could become yet again a basis for terror that gets projected beyond and maybe even further into the allies and into the west. >> before you go, all the world crises, one moment to talk about -- >> let's. >> above the fold on the new york titles -- >> and "the wall street journal" as well. >> harry belafonte. >> i was incredibly lucky, we met at a robert f. kennedy animal human rights award. he was the lion of civil rights. he brought the kennedys into the civil rights struggle in conversation with martin luther king. i sat and listened to this march's wisdom and his inspiration and his experience in non-violent resistance and how, whether it's, you know, guns today or racism, civil rights today, or whether it was, when he was on the front lines,

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more choices. less sugar. balanceus.org . in a few hours the battery and defamation trial against donald trump against e. jean carroll. she alleges former president trump assaulted her in a dressing room at a bergdorf goodman back in the mid '90s. allegations trump denies. >> i proceeded him into the dressing room. the minute he closed that door i was banged up again the wall. >> he slammed you against the wall? >> yeah, hit my head really hard. >> these are rape allegations and yesterday's opening statement's kicarroll's attorne revealed two other alleged victims of trump will testify to try to show a pattern of this alleged behavior. talk us through what happens today. >> so today carroll's team

begins to present their case and their first witness is going to be a former employee of bergdorf goodman's. this is to set the scene of what it was like in the '90s at bergdorf goodman's on the candidate floor in the lingerie department where this alleged assault took place. also an attempt to corroborate some of carroll's story. then carroll will take the stand herself. she, obviously, is the main witness here. and she is going to describe to the jury this alleged rape that took place in the department store. her lawyers have said that they are trying to show that this was three women and one pattern. so not only e. jean carroll, but two other women saying that trump's m.o., as they put it, he would engage in some friendly banter in a semi public place, then he would lunge for them, grope them, then when the women went public with their allegations, humiliate, attack and say they were too ugly to assault. trump's team will spend a lot of time cross-examining carroll. they said they are going to make their case here, their defense through carroll's witnesses.

so we can expect to see a lengthy cross-examination of carroll. they say she is motivated by politics, money, and the spotlight. also today an extraordinary move, the attorney general of oklahoma is calling for clemency for death-row inmate. a letter to the parole board sent yesterday where he said he doesn't have confidence in richard murder conviction. the board is set to meet hours from now to decide his fate. in 1998 he was convicted in that murder-for-hire plot. he says he didn't do it. he is set to be executed right now may 18th. of course, a lot of questions and eyes on what is going to happen today. >> it's hard to underscore how unusual of a move this is for the attorney general in oklahoma, a republican, to sit at the table at this clemency hearing. it just doesn't happen. usually he would send a deputy. this shows how much he really believes that richard gloss up

who is scheduled to be executed three weeks from now, that he should get at least a new hearing with new evidence in this case. of course, he signaled towards that just a couple weeks ago when he urged the justices in the criminal court of appeals in oklahoma to look at this case and bring it back to a lower court and those justices though in a 5-0 decision decided that the death penalty, the execution should continue forward. i want to just read from what he said to the parole board. he said in every previous case that has come before this board, the state has maintained full confidence in the integrity of the conviction. that is simply not the case in in matter due to the material evidence that was not disclosed to the jury. now, even if the clemency board decides to get -- or the parole board gdss to give clemency, it is going to be up to the governor to then decide if he will grant that clemency and that's a decision he does not

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instagram combined. that number dwarfed by this one. 3.2 billion, the value of her shapewear and clothing company skims, but no number is more important to her, the star of the, the entrepreneur and activist than number four, mbeig mom of four kids. i sat down with her right here in new york. >> i was thinking a lot about sort of how you do business and observing it from the outside. do you trust your gut? >> absolutely. >> over the data? over what other people say, kim, you should do this, we should do this? >> absolutely. and i like to be in business. there are two things. i like to do things that i will feel confident in, that i, obviously, feel like i know what i'm doing, i want to learn, and surround myself with people that will support you in a way where you trust them so much in the area that they are going to run the business in and you give

them that control and they trust you in the area that you really know. and if you just trust even other like that, it absolutely can be magic. >> equal respect and trust? >> yes. and i do have, i think, as you get a little bit older, and you learn a lot along the way, i think one of the most important things, and there was a time when i didn't have this luxury of choosing who i was in business with, but if you're at a place and you take your time, you realize that you absolutely do not want to be in business with people you don't want to spend holidays with and that you don't like. >> so, your dad, you have said that a lot of your work ethic, because i heard you only sleep about 5 1/2 hours a night, if that. >> now. >> a lot of it comes from your dad. and you lost him when you were 22. >> yes. >> he died from cancer just two-month battle with cancer.

he was a lawyer and your dream was to follow in his footsteps. my dad, too, lawyer, died when i was young, four months in the hospital. so i understand that and wanting to make them so proud. is his memory and what he wanted for you and what you learned from him a driving force now in your criminal justice work? >> absolutely. but i know that he would probably get such a kick out of this because he wouldn't have expected it at all. we talked so much about me going to law school and he always said he would help give us an allowance if we stayed in school. and i couldn't do it. i was like, i am on my own. i don't care. i am not going to go to -- i didn't finish school. and then now that the opportunity came about all these years later, it's so much more meaningful to me. >> didn't he tell you not to be

a lawyer? >> he did. he did. well, he did say -- >> he is a lawyer. >> he warned me how stressful it is and said, i know you, you are not going to want to go through this. so figure out something else to do. but i will say, i did learn my work ethic from my dad. >> yeah. >> but i learned so much more from my mom than i ever give her credit for. and that i ever -- you know -- >> give kris credit? >> is it a thing, you kind of give -- this is, like, i am not trying to be funny, you give the dead parent a lot of credit? >> it's so true. my mom said the same thing to me. we did this video for cnn all about my dad and she is, like, i love it, poppy, but, you know, i was there, too. i was there, too. >> what about me? yeah. >> i get it. >> i am sorry, mom. if you watch this, i feel like we have always given my dad so much credit. >> what did she teach you? >> well deserving. the one thing is she taught us

how to have a home, how to make a home, and all of my -- i mean, she is the most nostalgic sentimental personal. she kept everything from when we were growing up. i could find a tooth, locks of hair. she has chests that she saved for us with baby books. so i do that with all of my kids and you write each one of my kids a letter, like a four or five-page letter every year on their birthday that i'll give them when they are 20 one, you know, about what we did the whole year and what their favorite shows are and what they like to eat and who their friends are. >> i definitely feel like i am under performing in the parents department. >> she taught us how to be ready good moms. >> how to make a home. i love being a homemaker and i love working and i don't know often that we talk about both. i am really glad you said that.

you said, my 40s are about being team me. me, too. >> 40s are the best. >> so far, so good. i will almost a year in the books. you agree. any add vice for folks on team ? >> just, oh my gosh i have so much advice and i'm blanking. i think it's really simple. like i live my life just trying to be a good person, do right by other people, you know, be kind to everyone, and focus on yourself. sometimes you need to give yourself a little bit more love. sometimes other people need a little bit more love and there is just enough to go around. >> i am a big fan. >> a lot of time you spent with her. >> yeah, i think you reinvent yourself in life. to use that platform and power to try to get people out of jail and help reform the justice system, good on her. >> twe will see the impact it

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don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative. >> don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative. >> don't compare me to the alm almighty. >> compare me to the alternative. >> as he always say, don't compare me to the almighty. >> compare me to the alternative. >> do you think they like that phrase? you heard there a number of people and president biden quipping about who not to measure him against. will just not be trump be enough for the second term. joining me is the man who you might say was the biggest help in propelling biden and winning the 2020 nomination and ultimately the white house congressman jim clyburn of south carolina, assistant democratic leader and also a 2024 biden campaign co-chair. i know you don't like to take the credit but a lot of folks gives you a lot of credit. good morning. >> good morning. thank you very much for having me. well, you know, i do believe that this country is worth every bit of the effort, all of its

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we need many more road constructions that we currently can afford, we need much more many more bridges to be built that have been falling down all over america. our children still need diversity in their educational pursuits. we have a lot left to be done. so i keep telling people this is not just about anti-trump, this is about a vision for what america's future can be. >> it was certainly notable that his campaign announcement started with video of the insurrection. i was struck by this, governor chris sununu of new hampshire who may run for president in 2024 in the republican party was asked yesterday here in new york about biden's age. listen to what he said. >> president biden he moves slow, he does not take questions, he rambles, he bumbles. so, yeah, i don't think we're putting our best foot forward. i don't think we're seeing the

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