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40% of the market. we decided that what we were going to do over the past -- i don't know how many decades -- we decided that it was going to be cheaper to export jobs and import product. along came the pandemic and the pandemic taught us that we used to have 40% of the market just some years ago, now it's down to 10%. and, again, we invented the super -- we got -- so i decided to go out and see what we could do to increase our hold on the market once again. so what i did was i went around the country as well as in addition of passing the chips d sciee act, i, in fact, visited countries around the world and two significant south korean companies decided they were going to invest billions of dollars in chip manufacturing in the united states. it wasn't designed to hurt china, it was designed so we didn't have to worry about whether or not we had access to semiconductors.
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for example, during the pandemic what happened was all of a sudden everybody started to learn the phrase supply chain. a year ago no one knew what the hell anybody was talking about when you said supply chain but now they all know, and we lost access to these -- these semiconductors in which new automobiles in the united states need 30,000 of them just to build a new automobile and we didn't have them. so we started investing here and what happened was when we encouraged the investment through the chips and science act and now we have an enormous investment in the united states, over $200 billion in long-term investment in semiconductors. we are rebuilding the economy of the united states with those semiconductors. it's not designed to hurt china. the only thing i did say with regard to china, there are certain extremely sophisticated semiconductors that we have built that are useful for nuclear and or other weapons systems. those we are not selling. we are not exporting to china or anyone else.
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so that's the context in which this has all occurred. in the meantime we're creating thousands of jobs and bringing back a sense of pride and dignity to so many towns in the country where all of a sudden over the last three decades we've found out that factories have hired -- had 600 people shut down. the soul of that community was lost. so i made sure when the semiconductors were coming back, that they were not just going to go to the coast, they would be all over the country. and so we have a significant field of dreams outside of -- in ohio, outside of columbus. we are in texas. we are in arizona. anyway, all over the country. so it's not viewed to hurt anyone else. we are providing access to those semiconductors. we are a supply chain you can count on. but we are not -- we are not going to sit back and be in a position where we don't have access to those semiconductors. we are not going to be a place where we are the end of that
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line. we are the beginning of it. and it's generating significant economic growth in america and not hurting anybody. and, by the way, it's creating jobs in -- in south korea. it's creating jobs in south korea, not just with sk -- anyway, with samsung and other industries. so i think it's a win-win. >> translator: with regard to your question, let me provide my answer. korea and the u.s. based on its washington declaration aour two countries have agreed to strengthen extended dee teshts and the implementation level is different from the past. first of all, we have an ncg
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nuclear consultative group that has been launched that will implement discussions and actions and we will hold regular meetings and consultations under ncg. we will share information on mutual nuclear assets and intelligence and we will jointly plan responses and also jointly plan exercises and drills, and implementation plans. so all of these will be strengthened as specified under the nuclear consultative group. we want to customize our response against north korea's nuclear threat based on extended deterrents and in the process of achieving this goal any concerns that koreans may have against north korean nuclear weapons will be relieved, i believe. if nuclear weapons are used, our
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two countries will strengthen our response in a swift manner. any further questions to me? please. >> translator: reporter. i have two questions for you. with regard to extended deterrents, the ncg that has been formed, how will korea function under ncg? any kind of nuclear-equipped nuclear assets will be in
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function? and to president biden, korea is to maintain the mpt and it is to strengthen extended deterrents, correct? so based on your view do you think this is enough to guard korea against a north korea nuclear threat? thank you very much. >> translator: well, let me address your question about the activities of the ncg. we are going to be sharing information and we are going to be acting jointly. that is the key. i can't talk to the specifics right now about what type of information and what type of specific activities we will be conducting, but, however, under the nuclear umbrella our extended deterrents was a lot lower. so right now it's an unprecedented expansion and strengthening of the extended deterrents strategy under the washington declaration which will create the ncg. the implementation and the
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response at this level has never, thus far, been this strong. so this is a new level of extended deterrents much stronger, that i can say with confidence. >> the response i would give you is that the extended deterrents means that we are having more consultation with whatever action is to be contemplated or taken. we made it really very, very clear, any -- the rok is repeated confirmed its commitment to the nonproliferation treaty and the washington declaration is a prudent step in extended deterrents and respond to advancing dprk nuclear threat. look, a nuclear attack by north korea against its allies or partisans -- partners is unacceptable and will result in the end of whatever regime were
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to take such an action. it's about strengthening deterrents in response to the dprk's escalatory behavior and to deal in complete consultation. you know, the idea that i have absolute authority as commander in chief and the soul authority to use nuclear weapon, but, you know, what the declaration means is that we're going to make every effort to consult with allies when it's appropriate if any action was so-called for. certainly we talked about this and some other things today, but the bottom line here is there is even closer cooperation, closer consultation and -- and we are not going to be station thing nuclear weapons on the peninsula, but we will have visits to -- sport visits of nuclear submarines and things like that. we are not talking away from that. my turn to ask a question?
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i think the next question is mary bruce, abc. >> you recently launched your reelection campaign. you've said questions about your age are legitimate and your response is always just watch me but the country is watching and rece polling shot 70% of americans, including a majority of democrats, believe you shouldn't run again. what do you say to them? what do you say to those americans who are watching and aren't convinced? you've said you can beat trump again. do you think you're the only one? >> i may not be the only one, but i know him well and i know the danger he presents to our democracy and we've been down this road before. and with regard to -- to age, you know, and polling data, i noticed the polling data i keep hearing about is that i'm between 42 and 46 percent favorable rating, et cetera. but everybody running for
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reelection at this time has been in the same position, there's nothing new about that. they're making it sounds like biden is really under water, number one. number two, when the same polling data asks whether they think what kind of job i've done, it gets overwhelmingly positive results from 58%, everything from the chips act and the -- all the things we've done. you know, we've created -- like i said, we've created 12 million new jobs, we've created 800,000 manufacturing jobs, we have economic growth moving, we are in a situation where the climate -- we've invested more money and more help in dealing with the climate crisis than any nation in the world. so things are moving. and the reason i'm running again is i have a job to finish. the other thing is that, look, think about what i inherited when i got elected. i inherited a nation in overwhelming debt at the time, number one. in the hole for the four years that he was president.
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i inherited a nation that had a serious loss of credibility around the world as america first and, you know, the first meeting i attended at the g7 i said america is back and one of the world leaders looked and said for how long? for how long? there was a great concern about the united states being able to lead the free world. and we're doing that again. and those same polls you look at, you take a look at the polls they're saying whether i pull together nato and european union as well as asian partners, i think we have. but there's more to do and with regard to age, i can't even -- guess how old i am, i can't even say the number. it doesn't register with me. but the only thing i can say is that one of the things that people are going to find out, they're going to see a race and they're going to judge whether or not i have it or don't have it. i respect them taking a hard look at t i take a hard look at
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it as well. i took a hard look at it before i decided to run. i feel good, i feel excited about the prospects and i think we are on the verge of really turning the corner in a way we haven't in a long time. i know you're tired of hearing me say we are at an inflection point but we really are. what happens in the next two, three, four years will determine what the next three, four decades look like and i have never been more optimistic in my life about the possibilities of the united states. >> to be clear, though, you just said i know him well. did donald trump's decision to run affect yours? would you be running if he wasn't? >> yeah, i still think i would be running if he wasn't. i do know him well. he is not hard to know as you well know. you know him well, too. the question is whether or not -- look, there's just -- there's more to finish the job. we have an opportunity to put ourselves in the position where we are economically and politically secure for a long time. look, we continue to have -- i know you don't like hearing me saying it -- there's still a
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contest between autocracies and democracies and we are the leading democracy in the world and it's something i know a fair amount about, something i care about and something that i have found a willing nness on our allies and friends to follow. i think that we have to finish the job, nail it down. [ inaudible question ] >> you need to repeat the question. the mic was not used. we cannot interpret. >> they need to repeat the question. [ inaudible question ] >> translator: please use the microphone. we cannot provide interpretation if you do not use the
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microphone. >> trans >> reporter: did the recent leaks reviewing that the u.s. was spying on south korea come up at all in your discussions and did president biden provide you any assurances? >> translator: with regard to that, we are communicating between our two countries and we are sharing necessary information. i believe that investigation is under way in the united states so various and complex variables are always in play. we need time to wait for the investigation results by the united states and we plan to continue to communicate on the mat matter. >> this will be the last
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question. >> translator: and from financial news. my question goes to both of you. my first one goes to president yoon first. during the state visit you've said that the alliance has strengthened to cutting edge industries, to cutting edge science and also investments in businesses have been some of the outcomes these are some positives, however, to each individual of the public how will this have a long-term impact? what will be the direct benefits felt? and to president biden, in celebration of the 70th anniversary of the rok-u.s. alliance oi know that the atmosphere is very positive, however, korean businesses, especially because of the chips act and the ira are on edge. what message can you spend to the korean companies to really
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make sure and tell them that this is not something to worry about? >> translator: the technology and cooperation between the rok and the u.s. and also in partnerships and cutting edge industries in science and technology was your first question. so that is about really strengthening the competitiveness of our two countries and it will enhance the productivity and created aed value, high added value. these are the types of products that are going to be produced and from the perspective of the public for each individual in that process they will reap the benefits wide and comprehensive that will stem from these industries and investments in these industries, for example, from job creation as well. and above all, the future generations will be given the determination and will to take on new challenges and embrace opportunities in our industry so
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that they can continue to prosper and grow and become more abundant in the future. >> the reassurances that it's overwhelming in our interest for korea to do well. no, it is. it's very much in america's interest that korea do well in the pacific. very well. because they are one of our most valued partners and so i think the combination of growing democracies in the democratic institution as well as their economies is overwhelming in th whether it is in south korea or it's in australia in the deep south pacific. so i think that there's a reason -- overwhelming reason. plus in addition to that we're increasing the number of student exchanges, access to more information between our folks, educating our people, as well as we're going to be cooperating in everything from space to technology to medicine. and so there's so many
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opportunities we have and i don't think we -- at least we don't, and i don't think so far most of the south korean companies believe that there's somehow a u.s. effort to slow them down, prevent their growth or anything like that. we like to see them grow. and i mean that sincerely. it's overwhelming in the u.s. interest for south korea to do very well economically. it's overwhelming in our interest because it has -- and lastly, you know, i think we underestimate the example that south korea sets. here you have a nation that is significant but is not a nation of 2, 3, 400,000 people making the kind of exchanges they're making. it gives smaller nations hope that if they have democratic institutions and commitment and impact on industries that in fact are the cutting edge industries, new sciences and technology including ai and other things that there's a
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future for them. i think that's what this is about. so we view south korea's economic growth as a benefit to the united states as well as freedom around the world. thank you all so very much. appreciate it. >> distinguished guests, please remain in your seats until the official delegations have departed. you've been watching president biden with south korea's president yoon taking questions from reporters at the white house after holding significant talks over relations between the two countries and announcing a see new agreement focused on deterring north korea's nuclear program. president biden answering important questions about that and also about his own political prospects one day after announcing that he was running for reelection. president biden asked directly about his age. he would be 86 years old if he left the white house after a second term. the president saying that number
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doesn't register with me and admitting that he took a long, hard look at his age before he decided to run. >> the other issue here is just the open discussion of the danger of nuclear conflict, right? the essence of these talks here is the u.s. bringing south korean leaders into the decision-making process on any response to a potential north korea nuclear attack on south korea, basically saying you are in the fold. they didn't specify exactly how they are in that decision-making process, but also issuing a stark warning to north korea. he said that a nuclear attack on the u.s. or south korea will result in the end of whatever regime is responsible. that's to say you strike, we will strike back and it will all be over. >> and to kind of marry those two issues, i thought it was interesting. he was saying the next three to four years are going to determine what the next three to four decades look at and clearly he feels that he is uniquely positioned to orient the u.s. in the direction that he thinks it
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should be when it comes to this autocracy versus democracy battle that he's talking about and this meeting today with south korea is a part of that. this isn't just about north korea, it's about what iran and china and russia are looking at as they see what happens today at the white house. >> i think there were three sort of really big issues that jumped out at me. first, before he talked about nuclear weapons, the president talked about investments in semiconductors, in artificial intelligence. to say that the relationship with south korea was so much deeper than just the north korea issue. he let president yoon describe in detail this arrangement about consultation on response to north korea. that could be because it's more important politically to president yoon to be able to do that and to be able to back away from his own suggestion earlier this year that south korea might try to get its own nuclear weapons, which, by the way, it
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did try 40 years ago and the u.s. got in the way of t and i think the third really interesting thing to come out of it was his election comment because he was basically saying, look, i'm not going to run away from the fact that i'm 80 now and would be 86. he was going to say compare me to how i'm doing versus the competition. and that's sort of a subtle way of saying donald trump is not a lot younger and is a bigger problem. >> by the way, he is not the only person who looks at their age and says they can't quite recognize that age or not willing to acknowledge -- >> i've been known to do that, jamie. >> present company accepted. kylie, it is notable because the connection between the political point and the national security environment, i mean, that conflict between autocracies and democracies is a key part of his political message. that's the way he frames the u.s. position in the world under his leadership. let's not eliminate that's also how he views the other guy as he refers to him in terms of his possible opponent in 2024.
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>> certainly we hear it as central to his foreign policy agenda when it comes to any country, right? i mean, it's getting together with our allies to take on our adversaries and also confronting our adversaries directly where we need to. coming back to what he said on the political front just for a second there when it comes to trump, he also told the reporter that he would still be running even if trump weren't. and i think that that's key here because i think a lot of folks talk about president biden making this decision to run because he thinks he is the only one who can beat the former president. he is trying to reposition that discussion right now and he's trying to say -- he said i'm excited about the prospects of what i can do. he wasn't saying that this is only because of the former president, which i just think is an interesting point. >> not just the negative framing of it, a positive framing. >> thank you so much for the conversation. we do appreciate it. and the race to avoid economic disaster, house speaker
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kevin mccarthy changes his debt ceiling bill as he is struggling to get enough gop votes to pass it, but he claims they still can pass this bill today. so what is in it? we have that ahead. and trump accuser e. jean carroll taking the stand and recounting in pretty graphic detail the alleged assault by the former president. we are live from the courthouse. cut! another health insurance commercial, another aqua-aerobics scene. yup. most heth insurance companies see us all the same: smiley seniors golfing, hing... don't forget antiqng. that's why i cse humana. they seee, not a stereotypical senior. i'm pre-diabetic, so i talked one-on-one with a humana health educator who really helped me. now i'm taking free cooking and meditation classes. not aqua-aerobics? better care begins with listening.
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welcome back to cnn "news central." right now house speaker kevin mccarthy is wheeling and dealing or trying to do with his fellow republicans. overnight he made two major concessions to the debt ceiling bill in a push to get it passed today. but even if he can ram this legislation through the house it doesn't go much further than there. democrats of course control the senate. president biden has already vowed to veto it. in the meantime, though, inaction is putting the country on the brink potentially of a financial crisis. experts warn the u.s. could default on its debt as early as june if they don't come to an agreement. manu raju is live from capitol hill. does mccarthy have the votes in even if he does get them, what happens to this proposal?
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>> reporter: that is really the big question because there's no answer to that yet because there is not much time to raise the national debt limit, to get a deal that could pass the republican house and the democratic senate and also get signed by the president because there are no bipartisan negotiations happening, which is why the speaker is moving forward on a bill on his own to try to get all republicans in line behind this proposal. something that has been worked on behind the scenes for months, to include a range of conservative priorities, spending cuts across the board and try to limit defections. he cannot afford more than four republican defections in the narrowly divided house. at the moment the republican leadership is confident that today they will get the votes to pass this measure. moments ago i spoke to nancy mace who is a republican from south carolina, she had signaled for some time she is likely to vote against this bill, she said it did not go far enough to cut the debt. moments ago she met with the speaker of the house came out and said that she supports this bill now because of commitments
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that mccarthy gave to deal with the budget issues and budget reforms going forward, something that she said will be enough for her to vote for this package. the question will be what will happen next. in talking to some members of the republican conference they're willing to vote for this bill because it includes a slue of spending cuts but they're concerned about future comp compromises. >> i would like for it to be more conservative than it is right now. i think it's a happy compromise with our conference. >> i want it double what was in there. i agreed to vote for it because this starts the ball, gets us in the arena to solve the debt problem. now, i'm not interested in anything coming back, anything but what we voted on. just said this cannot take up anything from the senate. we freeze until they get back with us on what we agreed to. >> reporter: now, this vote if it does happen this afternoon is expected to be very, very close. we do expect at least one
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member, tim burchett of tennessee to vote against it, others are undecided like tim buck and eli crane who told me he is undecided on this issue. they may get this bill through, it will be an enormous amount of work just to get republicans on board. again, jim, the bigger issue of a bipartisan deal to avert what could be just an economic disaster of a debt default by as early as this june. there's still no clear way out of that mess as congress and the white house are not talking about a way out. >> we're in the first act of a multiact play here. see how it all comes together. manu raju on the hill, thanks so much. boris. turning now to the civil battery and defamation trial against donald trump. today jurors heard from the former president's accuser e. jean carroll. she told the court, quote, donald trump raped me. the former magazine columnist alleges that trump assaulted her in a dressing room at a department store in the mid 1990s. before she testified jurors heard from an employee who
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worked at that store. we should note donald trump has denied these allegations. cnn's kara scannell is live outside the courthouse in new york for us. kara, what did e. jean carroll tell the court? >> reporter: well, boris, e. jean carroll has been on the stand for a little more than an hour and this morning she described to the court and the jury what had happened through the heart of this allegation. she told them that donald trump had raped her. so she set the scene, she told them she was leaving the department store she believed on a thursday night and sometime in the spring of 1996. she said she saw donald trump at the door, he put his hand up and said, hey, you are that advice columnist and she replied, hey, you are that real estate tycoon. from there she said they began this flirtatious fun, he wanted her advice to buy a present for a woman, they looked at handbags, they looked at hats, he then suggested they go to the sixth floor the lingerie department and there they were teasing each other over a body
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suit, he suggested that she put it on, she suggested that he put it on. she testified, though, after that is when things turned violent. she said trump lured her into the dressing room, he then pushed her up against the ball, she banged her head she said twice from him pushing her against the wall, she said he pulled down her tights and raped her. she's testified that after this she fled the department store, she called one of her friends and she confided in her and her friend said, you have just been raped. she then testified she then had a subsequent conversation with a second friend, carol martin and said she described what happened to carol martin and e. jean carroll testified that martin told her not to do anything about it because trump would bury her. and this is what carroll testified to on the stand, she said i was frightened of donald trump, i thought he would retaliate and i was ashamed. i thought it was my fault. they came back from an hour plus long lunch break. carroll is back on the stand and her attorneys are asking her now about what kind of impact this had on her life. carroll has testified she has
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not been able to have a romantic relationship since then. she said flirting got me into trouble that day and she said she can't engage in a romantic relationship if she can't look at a man in the eye and smile. as you said, trump has denied this. his attorneys will get a chance to cross-examine carroll and they said she's motivated by finance and by politics. >> kara scannell, please keep us posted on that testimony live outside the courthouse in manhattan. thank you. ahead, a cnn exclusive, lawyers for hunter biden meeting with justice department officials to discuss the long running criminal investigation into the president's son. we're going to show you our new reporting on that. plus, wrong turn, right time. five men on a work trip are being called heroes after saving drivers from a fiery wreck. see more of their story ahead. te freedom unlimited card. and i'm gonna cashback on a few other things too. starting withh the sound system... [autotune] that's caaaaaaaaaaash. cashbackck like a pro with chase freedom unlimited.
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this just into "news central," lawyers for the president's son, hunter biden, have met with officials from the justice department. now, it's not clear what was discussed today, but hunter biden has been under federal investigation for tax evasion. let's bring in cnn legal analyst elliot williams, he was a federal prosecutor who also helped lead the justice department as deputy assistant attorney general. elliott, what do you make of this? i mean, what are the possibilities of things that they might be discussing? >> they might be discussing the nature of the charges, so there's a failure to file taxes, there's a possible false statement about a firearms purchase, there's a tax evasion charge and they might be talking
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about the specifics, what kind of evidence the justice department has, what hunter biden's explanation might be. i was acting on advice of counsel or i was confused as to what i was doing to try to see if they can make it go away. i think really that's what hunter biden's team's goal is here, just make this go away. >> if they can't make it go away, could they be discussing a plea? >> absolutely. it is always in the interest, brianna, of defendants to plead out to defenses there, has huge penalty in our system for going to trial, you're going to get a higher sentence if you end up going to trial, the time consumed at trial either on your own part or the court's part, it's to make it go away now, if the justice department is saying we are charging with you a crime next week or next month, yes, it's in his interest to try to plea and get the lowest possible sentence that he can. >> what would penalties look like? if you're considering -- and just to be clear we're talking about tax issues here, we're talking about alleged misstatements when it came to a firearms purchase.
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so if you are looking at possible penalties for either a plea deal or going to trial, what are the range of possibilities? >> none of these carry enormous sentences, i think the highest sentence you would be looking at would be a statutory maximum of five years. look, no one is getting the five year sentence here. you would be looking at months probably, maybe a little more than that in prison. now, for the misdemeanor offenses, the not reporting your taxes it would be less than a year. in all likelihood someone who pled guilty would take a much lower sentence than anything like that, but, again, they just want it to go away. >> what do you make of how this whole thing has played out with hunter biden, his legal exposure. >> a couple things, it's interesting it has taken this long if these are relatively minor offenses what's taking so long? i do note that the justice department does have a number of career officials there, number one, there's a holdover from the trump administration as the u.s. attorney in delaware. in two, the head of the tax division at the justice department has overseeing this is also a career official.
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i think they're very careful to make sure that this was not politically influenced from the higher ups at washington or the white house or anything like this. this is just a by the books tax prosecution, we want to talk to this defendant, see what he has to say. >> it ends up being political no matter what. >> no question. >> of course, right? elliott, thank you so much for taking us through that. jim? coming up, new details from leaked pentagon documents reveal growing concerns about china's weaponization of space and the possibility of using our own space assets against us. and she could be punished for speaking out. next hour the republican-led house is set to consider disciplinary action against representative zooey zephyr, she is transgender, standing up for gender-affirming care in the statehouse there. what's next if that vote goes through?
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now to some of the other headlines that we are watching this hour. ukrainian president zelenskyy said he held a long and meaningful phone call with his chinese counterpart xi jinping this morning. during their conversation xi announced that china will send a representative to visit ukraine and other countries to help conduct in-depth communication. it's not clear when that trip will take place. this was the first call between the two leaders since russia invaded ukraine. also fox news may have settled the dominion lawsuit, but key information from that case will carry over to an even bigger defamation suit. lawyers for smartmatic wanted documents concerning the murdochs, fox chair rupert murdoch and his son lack land. today fox agreed to turn over materials which will include
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items from the dominion matter. they are suing the network for neither $3 billion. five men on a work trip became unlikely heroes in chicago. they came bonn this fiery crash on the highway and pulled one of the drivers from the burning car as the flames were closing in. get this, it was a case of really the wrong place at the right time. they were at that scene because they took a wrong turn, jim. lucky they were there. well, virtually every day we're learning new details about what are contained in these leaked documents from the pentagon, but also how they got out and we're learning now more about the military base where 21-year-old junior airman was apparently able to walk out with troves of top secret u.s. intelligence documents. alex marquardt here with new reporting. this has been a question throughout, how did he gain access to these documents, how did he get them off the base. >> yeah, so, jim, we spoke with a number of current and former officials who worked both at this base which is called otis
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and in similar facilities. otis has a 24/7 intelligence operation. the fact is we are told by these sources that it is obviously very difficult to get on to the base, it is very difficult to get the kinds of clearances that you need to access this kind of information, but once you do have that access, once you do have those clearances, we are told it is actually quite difficult to stop someone who is determined to get this kind of stuff out. that there are indeed vulnerabilities that can be studied by someone who has this kind of access. this is jack teixeira the airman first class who posted documents online and he likely had access to a system which is the joint worldwide intelligence communication system, as you know, jim, this is a system that the pentagon uses to disseminate a lot of its intelligence to military officials and military installations all around the world. he likely worked in what is known as a scif, a sensitive compartmented information facility where you are not allowed to go in with you are y. you are iphone, not allowed to
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go in with your watch. i am told by a former officer who worked there in the years after 9/11 that this base operated under good hygiene rules, they didn't leave stuff lying around, they -- if stuff was out of place it would then get put where it needed to be or it would eventually get shredded. and i'm told that there was repeated training not just annual, but several times a year to tell people to teach people, especially younger enlisted troops, how this information should be managed, what to do, what not to do. >> but training is one thing, but oversight is the other one here quite a low rank who still had enormous access and they clearly didn't have protocols in place to be able to monitor this as it was happening. >> and we believe now that this was someone who was determined to get this stuff and show it to his buddies online. i'm told that training was very simple, very easy to understand,
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but that speaks the how determined he was and this officer i spoke with summed it up as a monumental lack of judgment. >> which is a consistent message we've heard from the pentagon. the fact this has happened before raising real questions a about oversight. one thing notable about this somewh is what they revealed about china's progress in space. china's building a heck of a lot of satellites and deploying them and getting ahead of the u.s. in some categories. >> that's right. some of the documents that were leaked that "the washington post" obtained that we have not seen or verified, do show how china continues on this march to space dominance. they want to be the country that leads the world in space and at the same time, russia has been on the decline for some time. the chinese have some 700
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satellites operating in space and there are some 250 so more than a third of them are for what's called irs. intelligence reconnaissance and surveillance. according to the u.s. assessment obtained by "the washington post," of course, these capabilities by the chinese would be used in a future conflict with taiwan for intercepting communications. for surveillance. and the chinese on the other hand, could prevent the types of satellites and space assets that they are facing. jim, as you know well, the chinese have developed grappling satellites. >> they nicknamed them kidnapper satellites. they call them maintenance satellites, but what the u.s. is concerned about is that a maintenance satellite with this little arm here like a robot arm, could also pluck u.s.
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satellites out of orbit. u.s. warships, weapons, airlines. cruise missiles. >> speaking of blinding, lasers that can be used to dazzle u.s. and other allied satellites. so china very much building up those systems whereas the u.s. has determined since 2020 for various reasons, russia's space program has been in decline. >> what happens with these leaks is every other day, you learn something more. which is not just stuff that should be kept secret, but shows the level of concern about china, taiwan, ukraine. you name it. >> it really does add a lot more to what we already understood about these trajectories. >> great reporting. alex, thanks so much. we want to focus on the tense political drama playing out in montana. the republican-led state house there is set to consider disciplinary action next hour against democratic member zoe
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zefer. the state's only transgender lawmaker. her republican colleagues have refused to let her speak until she apologizes for comments she made on gender affirming care. that led to heated protests and arrests on monday. lucy cavanaugh is in denver with more on this. this disciplinary action, how far might lawmakers go? >> well after those protests on monday and the abrupt cancellation of tuesday's session, we are expecting lawmakers to reconvene to consider among other things whether she should be disciplined. this isn't confirmed, but i am hearing from some sources that the motion is likely to block the freshman lawmaker from the floor. so she'd be voting effectively remotely the rest of the session if it passes.
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republicans have a majority there. she did tweet last night this could ultimately lead to her being either censured or expelled. she added she was informed she would in fact get a chance to speak on the floor today. the session is closed to the public. perhaps to avoid a repeat of the protests we saw in the gallery on monday, but it will be streamed online. i'm also hearing the rest of the legislative session will be closed to the public. the republican house speaker went on, did a short press conference yesterday where he said the vote will center on whether she violated rules of the body. the reality is that the democrat has not been recognized to speak on the state house floor since she declared on april 18th that l those who voted in favor of the ban would have quote, blood on your hands. and keep in mind that studies have shown alarming rates of suicides among transgendered teens, which was what she was
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