it's a fleeting victory. it's almost certain to be dead on arrival in the senate. it's packed in spending cuts and unravels major elements of biden's agenda. mccasrthy claiming his work is done. >> we just passed a bill. it's not our job to modify it. we're the only ones to lift the debt limit to make sure this economy is not in jeopardy. >> mccarthy did pass a bill. the white house and senate democrats have rejected it. they want the debt limit to be increased without any negotiations. the united states has never actually defaulted. the clock is ticking. washington has until early june to raise the debt limit. if they don't, obviously, a financial crisis could be in the offing. thanks for joining us. it's time now for "ac 360." good evening. we begin with breaking news. "the new york times" is reporting on what it says helped lead to the breaking point,

quote, between fox news and tucker carlson. it had to do with information that came to light in the dominion case. here is the headline. on eve of trial, discovery of carlson text sets off crisis atop fox. private messages sent by tucker that had been redacted showed him making offensive remarks that went beyond the comments of his show. in a moment, the attorney for fired carlson producer grossgrossburg joins she. she's alleging sexism, a hostile environment. her attorney said the special prosecutor has descriptions of her recordings and they want them. with us, oliver darcy.

lay out reporting about what led to the breaking point. >> what we are reporting is that there was a late break in terms of what fox's board of directors knew about redacted portions of the tucker carlson emails that were going to be at issue in trial. some of your viewers might remember there with emails from tucker that were controversial. these redactions were more concerning to the board and senior leadership that somehow they escaped notice until this 11th hour. that led fox to really realize that this is a point where tucker is moving into more of a problem, to say the least, than an asset. >> is it clear why the fox board of directors and senior executives were in the dark about these messages until virtually the eve of the dominion trial? the lawyers had them.

>> that is surprising to us as well. we are continuing to report that out. it does seem at the very least as if these redactions were considered sort of safely put away. there still seems to be contention maybe none of these would have ended up being seen in trial. that's debatable. dominion's lawyers clearly were planning to bring them up in cross examination if they could, if they had gotten tucker on the stand. maybe a judge would have stopped that. these slip by and the board engages at the last minute. what we are reporting is that when the board gets on this, they start -- they consider bringing in an outside firm to conduct an investigation into what was surrounding these very controversial messages between tucker and other people within the company. >> oliver, how does this square with your reporting? >> no one can be bigger than the

fox news brand. i think these messages, even the un-redacted messages indicate he thought he was. in the messages that were un-redacted, to be clear, he was not shy about expressing significant disdain for fox brass, leadership. he made some very crude comments in the un-redacted messages. i think if there are more messages, perhaps more crude messages in the redacted portions, it became clear, i think, to fox leadership, people like the murdochs, that he believed he was bigger than the fox news brand. i think that's a sin in rupert murdoch's empire. we have seen them willing to part ways with big personalities when they believe they have -- that fox news needs them more than they need fox news. murdoch has proven that's not

the case. fox conveniences the audiences, not the hosts. >> jim, how was the decision to fire him viewed by the murdochs? is it clear? >> how was the decision -- they certainly were beyond ready to do it. one thing i want to make clear is by all indications, the murdochs, over time, were souring on their top host. your show, you have covered it yourself, tucker had a certain gift for getting into trouble, dragging the network into trouble. that seemed to be okay, obviously, for a couple of years. they stood by him. he was a big ratings driver. he was a profit driver. once he starts walking them into what appears to be greater potential legal problems, you mentioned two other lawsuits pending, there was potentially news of -- there's news of a potential third lawsuit coming down the pike. this takes the murdochs into a far differentterms of dealing with tucker. it's not worth it. >> has he commented on this?

>> carlson has been seen in florida. he said that he is enjoying retirement and joking about that. he hasn't commented in a substantive way. i think it's noteworthy that without him in the 8:00 p.m. hour, the ratings over there are really collapsing. last night in the key advertiser supported 25 to 54 demo, they saw the worst ratings since pre-9/11. that's a staggering drop. the hour before it actually rated higher than the 8:00 p.m. hour, which is something of an anomaly over at fox. something that never happened when tucker was in that hour. i think as we are watching this, it's really interesting to seat ramifications it's having at fox and at news max, which is seeing its ratings surge. this led to the initial dominion debacle, because fox executives saw this other competitor rising. that's when they started to make

some of these decisions that led to being sued by dominion. >> how does -- how could his texts factor into the defamation suit by smart matic affect this? >> well, tucker is not a huge part of that case. i will note, he wasn't a huge part of the dominion case. when it came to defamatory statements, his show was one of 20 examples. the problem was the texts were so hot and controversial. as oliver said, some of the un-redacted texts were getting them into trouble. he was helping set for the lawyers at dominion, helping them show an atmosphere in which people doubted some of the c cons conspiracies. tucker talked about doubting some in unvarnished terms. he talked about powell driving the idea -- this false idea that the machines were switching

trump votes to biden votes. he is not a major part of the case. but that goes back to the liability idea. i don't mean that in a legal sense but in a representational sense. tucker is making so much noise around these suits that he didn't have to be a major part of. >> i appreciate it. two lawsuits against fox. the fired producer is alleging sexism, hostile work environment, coercing her into giving misleading testimony in the dominion case. now her attorney says the january 6th prosecutor has descriptions of recordings and they want her. joining me is her attorney. how does this new reporting by "the new york times" track with what your client is alleging? >> i mean, the fish rots from the head up -- head down, rather. it's very clear to me that the -- let's just call them

salty electronic exchanges that were part -- then became un-redacted in the dominion case, are very characteristic of the type of atmosphere that mr. carlson fomented in his news group. a former great part of abby's case in the southern district, in terms of the three cases, i think abby's civil conspiracy case is kind of the connective sinew in terms of what happened and how the discovery process was really abused. it seems the attorneys were playing hide the ball instead of following the rules. >> in today's "wall street journal," sources at "the wall street journal" say fox news attorneys at one point actually convinced the court to redact an

instance in which carlson allegedly called a fox news executive a misogynistic slur, begins with the letter c. carlson, according to "the wall street journal" sources, was not happy about that. wanted the world to know what he thought of that executive. that seems to strengthen a lot of the things that your client is saying about what it was like in that environment. >> yeah. one of the -- abby made a lot of complaints about the environment there once she got there. she was shocked. the first day she was there i think she was told the story about how she was welcomed by pictures -- large pictures of speaker pelosi in a bathing suit because she was on the beach and they were all over the place in the mocking way. she had to take one off of her computer to sit down and work. she complained a few times. one of the executives, i think it was mr. fox, no pun intended,

said to her, well, you know, this is -- we're just following tucker's lead. this is the vibe tucker likes. >> it seems like he set the tone for all the -- on a show like that, he can decide who works there and who doesn't. they all sort of patterned themselves after him. >> it was a real kind of bro-fest. i did a lot of cases in the '90s, the boom boom rooms. thought those went away. apparently they didn't. what's shocking to me is that there is -- fox has had so many warnings and so many lawsuits that it settled. alleging sex discrimination, gender discrimination. >> to your point, carlson replaced bill o'reilly. carlson didn't learn the lessons. your client made 90 audio recordings. this is from senator cruz.

he floated the idea of a special commission to lock at voter fraud claims. this was not on air. this was ted cruz talking to maria but not -- >> in a pre-interview. >> i think the country deserves to have a credible assessment of these claims and what the evidence shows. the mechanism to deny that is denying certification on the 6th. >> who is deciding who gets inaugurated? >> the results of the commission and what they find. if they found credible evidence of fraud that undermines confidence in the electoral result in any given state, they would report on that. >> as we mentioned, jack smith has been in touch with you about these recordings. where does that stand? >> it's the special counsel's office.

we have surrendered detailed descriptions of all of the audio recordings we have pursuant to the otter op. there were approximately 90. we are not through all of them. there's a tremendous amount of volume. we are hopeful that we will be able to work out a targeted subpoena and whatever recordings they want, we are happy to give them. >> i appreciate it. up next, kevin mccarthy gets a victory in a close vote. he got house republicans to agree to raise the debt ceiling. it's expected to die when it goes to the senate. i will talk with nancy mace who backed mccarthy's bill. hear why she just earlier today said she was going to vote no but she changed it to a yes. tonight, why the walt disney corporation is suing ron desantis. any of five mercededes-benz electric vehicles.

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early this evening, kevin mccarthy got the votes by a thin margin. mcc they passed a plan to raise the $31.4 trillion debt limit by $1.5 trillion in exchange for spending cuts and unraveling parts of president biden's agenda. four republicans voting against it. the maximum allowed defections in the divided chamber. getting to this moment was

important for mccarthy, to get the speaker's gavel. it took 15 ballots over five days in january. today, he showed he had unite most of his fellow republicans and get what he wants done. the bill is going nowhere. here is what president biden said this afternoon. >> happy to meet with mccarthy but not on whether or not the debt limit gets extended. that's not negotiable. >> negotiations on some level between both parties will be necessary to avoid potential financial disaster. without a deal, the united states could default on its debt as early as june. joining us now nancy mace who switched from a no to a yes today. great to have you on. you were a holdout on this bill ahead of some key changes and a meeting with speaker mccarthy and his team. how did they get you to a yes? >> my job when i came to washington is to get things done. we did that today. i'm grateful for the time that

speaker mccarthy gave to us to talk about balancing the budget in the future and committing to working with us on a balanced budget amendment, for example. you know, too, anderson, that i'm very passionate about other issues. we talked about those other issues. women's issues. i'm passionate about gun violence in this country. getting a commitment and talking to him about a path forward and how we can work together on some of the issues that south carolina cares about and, frankly, most folks across the country. i'm here to work and work hard. sometimes that means negotiating in order to move forward. that's what we did toward. >> of the changes that were made to the bill in the past 24 hours, was there something particular that was most instrumental in getting it passed? >> not in the language of the bill itself. talking and getting a complitcom commitment from him. we submitted language tonight for the consideration. working with us on something

that i feel very strongly about. look, we are in this position today with $31 trillion in debt because both sides have been spending like drunken sailors. trump added $8 trillion. president biden added $4 trillion. that's $12 trillion over six years. we have to get serious about how we're going to move forward. how we're going to tackle spending. how we're going to balance things out. i have a bill that would balance the budget in five years. too aggressive for the majority of congress. i would take 20 years. we have to have tough conversations. i'm disappointed to hear the president won't talk to mccarthy about noekegotiating further. both sides need to work together. that's what the american people are asking us to do. >> both sides make compromises, which is often now a dirty word in washington. compromises with the senate, the white house in order to make sure the united states -- are you willing to go along with

making some compromises? >> i've been willing to work with anyone who is willing to work with me. if you look at history, back in 1994, republicans had the majority and we had a democratic president. they put a plan together to balance the budget. they did it in four. under president bill clinton. they got a surplus. they balanced the budget. they did it in 2010 and '11. we had a democrat president and republican majority. it can be done. that means that both sides have to come to the table. we can't dig our heels in. compromise may be a dirty word there washington, that's what the american people want us to be doing. they want us to work together to deliver results. >> do you think speaker mccarthy would have the same support within the gop caucus if he has to give up some of the cuts that just passed the house? >> it's hard to say. again, we have to move something forward. we have to be responsible about how we're going to spend. if you look at some of the plans out there and ideas, we cannot have $31 trillion of debt ten

years from now. we have to figure this out. we have to figure it out together. you have a republican controlled house, a democrat controlled senate. digging our heels in and saying no, no, no, doesn't sound good for the majority of americans. they want us to work together. this is the first step in doing that. i hope biden will take up mcc mck mccarthy and talk to us. >> i appreciate your time. >> thank you. want dana bash. what happens now? >> there has to be some kind of middle ground like you were talking about with the congresswoman. it's true that the president says, i will not negotiate on the debt ceiling. it will have to be raised, period, end of story. it's also true that he has been in washington a very long time. he knows that there are ways to

get to yes for both sides. but you have to do it in a way that both the democrats and republicans feel like they're getting a win. one example is amy klobuchar told me sunday, maybe the democrats and republicans can negotiate on the budget, wink, wink, nod, nod, and everybody could feel comfortable in raising the debt limit. there are ways only in washington where you can potentially get to yes. it's going to require particularly in the house a significant number of democrats and republicans to get this done. >> i will ask you the same question. what about speaker mccarthy and his caucus? can he -- does he have enough support to get that done? >> no. he doesn't. which is why he is going to need or there will need to be -- whether or not he throws his hands up and says, i'm not going to be involved in this and maybe the president and mitch mcconnell, the republican leader in the senate, will start to

negotiate this just like they did all those years ago, and that way kevin mccarthy will have a way out of it politically. the answer is, he will not be able to -- it will be very difficult to see him giving on very much of anything, which is what will need to happen in order to get this done and have enough people just republicans to pass it. it's hard to see. which is why it has to be bipartisan. >> does any party have the upper hand? it seems like something has to give. they have to -- somebody has to be willing to compromise? >> it's a good framing of the question. nobody has the upper hand. until this moment, the white house thought that they had the upper hand. the democrats thought that they did because they kept saying, come to the table. let us know what you want to cut. they did that today. the democrats won't agree to most of those cuts.

at least they put their line in the sand, their marker down, which is a very important thing when you look forward in negotiations. that's what you need to do to actually start negotiations in ernest. time is running out. we are talking about june. it's the end of april. >> how big of a test do you think it was for speaker mccarthy navigating the factions of his conference? >> i talked with some republicans before coming on with you, some of which are not huge kevin mccarthy fans, who said they felt not only heard, which is what nancy mace said publically after she changed her vote, but also that kevin mccarthy and his top allies, top lieutenants like congressman emmer, they did negotiate this in a way that allowed them to -- allowed members of the conference to feel heard. that's the same kind of language

that we heard during the speaker's race when it took so long. these republican members just want to say that they had conversations with leadership and the leadership shows where they are coming from. that's where they are today. when we get to the tougher questions of what really will be saved and what won't be and what they will agree to when it comes to the law of the land, it's probably going to be a very different dynamic. >> thanks. appreciate it. tonight, arnold schwarzenegger will talk to dana about anti-semitism and hate. >> i was born with a father that was a nazi. think about that. >> you used the story of your father to try to reach people who are getting sucked into groups that propagate hate. talk about making that

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what did she say on the stand today? >> reporter: she testified for several hours under oath. she told the jury in detail about this alleged assault. she said that this began on a spring night in 1996. she went to do shopping. she left. as she was leaving she ran into donald trump. he noticed her and said, you are that advice columnist. she said she replied, you are that real estate tycoon. they looked at handbags, hats. then they made their way into the long way department. she said they were joking over a piece of lingerie about whether he should try it on or if she think try it on. she said, that's when things turned violent. trump brought her into the dressing room. shoved hefr against the wall. he closed the door and then he pulled down her tights and raped her. she contacted two friends. they are expected to testify for her. she said that one of them told

her she shouldn't go public because trump would bury her. she did suffer harm from this. she's not been able to have a romantic relationship because, in her mind, flirting led to this terrible event. she said that when donald trump came out publically and denied the attack saying she wasn't his type and suggested she did it to boost sales of her book, she also suffered then as well. she was fired from her job. she received hate mail. she has not recovered from that. she was fighting back tears at one point when her lawyer asked her, do you regret this? she said, 100 times that she did. she said, being able to tell her story in a court of law meant everything to her. she was happy about that. >> what did the judge warn the former president's attorneys about? >> reporter: the former president had issued -- posted on his social media platform about the case. her lawyers brought this to the judge's attention before the jury entered the courtroom. the judge said, your client here

needs to be careful. he may or may not have violated -- or exposed himself to potential liability. the question is, what is trump posting? could this be something that could be considered jury tampering or witness tampering? this is an anonymous jury. he doesn't know the identity of the jurors. the attorneys can't know the identity. part of that is because of trump's rhetoric. the statements he previously made in some other cases that have been concerning to judges. he tried to keep this under wraps. eric post posted something on twit they are afternoon. the judge said he is not before him. he did remind trump's attorneys again that these are concerns. there are statutes out there. someone on his team should be mindful and warn their client. joe tacopina said he would talk to his client. he said he did talk to him after the first treaweet but he would follow up again.

here with me now jennifer rodgers. her testimony today, was that the most crucial testimony that's likely to occur? >> it is. we have to see how the cross goes. it's both the direct and the cross. it's all the marbles are with jean carroll and her testimony. >> if the jury doesn't believe what she says, then the case is over? >> right. exactly. >> does it hurt the former president's chances of prevailing, the fact he is not physically there in court? >> it's hard to say what the jurors think about it in their minds as they make this decision. it probably does. everyone else is sitting there through all of this. they might wonder, why is he not giving this the time of day? he also can't tell his side of the story this way. he cannot put in his own deposition testimony. e. jean carroll's can put in trump's testimony. but he can't do it. he will have to get his denial of this out through the cross examination. if he were there and testified,

he could flat out deny it. i didn't do this. >> does the judge admonishing the former president's attorneys about social media posts, does that matter? i understand why he does it. are there ramifications? >> there could be. the judge could hold him in context.t contempt and civil. the judge isn't there yet. now having made very clear what his order is and putting trump on notice that he steps over again there may be consequences, we could see criminal contempt. >> tomorrow, what are you waiting for? >> i'm watching cross. how well does she stand up to what will be aggressive questioning from joe tacopina. it's a great look to aggressively go after a victim of sexual assault. that's his only play here. we will see how she stands up in the face of that. >> appreciate it. thank you. up next, the showdown between disney and ron desantis

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a big way today. the company filed suit in federal court against him alleging a, quote, targeted campaign of government retaliation. desantis, who has been criticized by other presidential contenders, defended his actions today saying they are good for business. >> that actually helped a lot of ceos around the country. we don't want to be the next disney. we have to stay out of this stuff. we have to focus on the task at hand. i do think that the incentives over the last ten years have been for them to basically bend the knee to the woke mob and try to advance a woke agenda. >> for the latest, i want to bring in steve contorno. what do we though about the substance of the suit? >> they accuse desantis of engaging in a campaign to punish the company over its opposition to what critics call the don't say gay law. this is a violation of their

first amendment rights. let me read you a little from the lawsuit. i think it lays out exactly their side of why they think we got to this point. they say, quote, disney regrets that it has come to this. but having exhausted efforts to seek a resolution, the company is left with no choice but to file this lawsuit to protect its cast members, guests and local development partners from a relentless campaign to weaponize government power against disney in retaliation for expressing a viewpoint unpopular with certain state officials. this lays out examples of florida republicans and desantis suggesting, boasting that they took this action directly because of what disney said and how they spoke up. now disney is asking a judge to undo the punishments they have received and give them back their special governing powers

in central florida. >> is there significance to the timing? >> it was filed moments after the board that oversees disney's special district voted to nullify agreements that disney had reached with the district. if you remember, this is an agreement that they reached right before desantis was about to take a power grab and install appointees on his board. they discovered this existed and voted to nullify them. that prompted disney to file a lawsuit in federal court. >> what about the federal judge who has been assigned to the case? who is that? >> that would be judge mark walker. this is a judge who actually grew up just down the road from disney in winter park. he is an obama-appointed judge. the senate confirmed him with a 94-0 vote. he has ruled on a number of

first amendment issues over the past few years, often sides with first amendment advocates, even in cases that involve governor desantis. he ruled against parts of desantis' so-called anti-woke law. he called it dysistopian. this is a judge they will argue their cases before. what you can expect to be a protracted fight that will settle who is the victor. >> appreciate it. thank you. harry inton is here. how is the battle playing out with republicans across the country in. >> we have some really fresh polling data on this. we can break it down. among republicans by a two to one margin, they side with desantis. if you look at all voters nationally, by a two to one

margin, they disagree with gov governor desantis. this is what we have been seeing with regards to ron desantis and disney, which is it's a play for the base. the republican base does like what he is doing. among all voters, generally speaking, they don't like what he is doing. >> what about among conservative republicans? he seems to be trying to appeal to them on the abortion issue. >> this seems to be part of a playbook that ron desantis is running. he is trying to appeal to the far right of the republican party. why is he doing that? because if you look -- we have a poll from -- the end of last month. we can break it down. among conservatives, donald trump has about a 30 point advantage. among all other voters, it's basically even. what desantis is trying to do is go into donald trump's base and basically take it away or cut away at the edge that donald trump has. that's the reason he is ahead. what i will point out, anderson,

is if you go back to republican primaries back since 1996, it's actually the choice of moderates, the candidate who wins moderates tends to win. the only example where that wasn't true was george w. bush. at the end of the day, he may sacrifice support in the middle. >> how is desantis doing nationally? >> so, this to me is, again, the twofold. you will appeal to the gop base. what happens among the again electorate? >> a month ago what we saw was that biden was barely leading desantis, while having a clear lead over donald trump. desantis was running better in the general election against bide n than donald trump was running. now this month, what happened? trump is basically polling at the same level versus biden. but if you look, what you see is biden's lead over desantis has grown by seven points from two

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head count. what followed next included a whirlwind of events involving stolen cars, a shoot-out and murder. the sheriff tweeted pout one of the inmates was spotted at a convenience store on sunday. the truck investigator believes he stole -- also recovered in texas. this come after a body you with a found inside a burned home where a person was in the stand-off, believed to be one of the escapees. the same person is believed to have shooting a pastor. joining me, john miller, the former deputy analyst within the police department. what kind of tactics are authorities likely using? how does a modern day manhunt work? >> it has some of the old qualities of one that would go back and a lot that has to do with new technology. this is enormously complicated.

it's not a manhunt. it's a men hunt. you have five perpetrators in different directions. we've seen where groups have escaped and stayed together. that makes it easier. >> you said five. it's four. >> it's four. you have one instance where there was a shooting between deputies and there is a burned body in a house that they're trying to identify. that's possibly one, identification pending. >> so the burned body may be one of the -- >> it's possible. we haven't gotten that i.d. from the sheriff yet. they left that as an open question. what you're doing is you have the county sheriff. you've got the alabama bureau of investigation. you've got the u.s. marshals. this is what the u.s. marshals live for. they are probably the most proficient manhunters. and they'll be looking at the

jails, who were on the visitor lists? let's go over the tapes. is there a coded thing about where they met, the pick-up, something that seemed innocuous at the time. where's mom? who are their friends? who have they been arrested with in the past? you try to figure out four four different individuals, what is their support system on the outside? for hiding, money, refuge, for cars? and block each one of those. >> the danger is already clear. not only is there one body found but there was a pastor killed who had apparently pulled over to help one of them who seemed to be on a motorcycle, thinking it was a stranded pedestrian. >> that's right. and what you're seeing is a level of desperation that almost doesn't fit the crimes they were in for. some of them were in for grand theft auto, larceny, you know, they don't appear to be the master violent criminals for what they were in jail for this

time. what you are seeing is at left a in a couple of these cases, a level of desperation that you'll see in escape cases which is, i'm not going back to jail at any cost now that i'm out. so the manhunt piece is obviously a danger to the public. we've seen that already with the killing of the pastor. also a danger to police. we see a police officer wounded in a shooting where they thought they had one of them cornered today. so they'll be very mindful of that. but it is really about surrounding their world and reducing each individual's world to a very small box. >> how much planning do you think went into this? >> well, i would say a lot but one of these prisoners has escaped that jail more than once in the past. so you probably had the equivalent of a subject matter expert into that facility's vulnerabilities and you had a facility that was down at left a

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two mta employees are being hailed as heroes after saving a toddler who wandered on to train tracks just outside the city. >> may day, may day. we have a toddler on the tracks. >> you just heard an engineer on a train moving 70 miles an hour, spotted the boy first. slammed on the brakes before he radioed others. a conductor on a train heading the opposite direction, saw the child, jumped out of his car, and grabbed him. brought him on to the train. tell boy had a has autism, nonverbal, he was uninjured, thankfully. he only had a splinter in his hand. his mother called the rescue a marria miracle from god. the engineer and three