♪ ♪ ♪ >> hi, everybody. thanks for tuning into this hour we bring you tomorrow's news tonight. we have a great lineup of reporters to share their scoops. so, it with me is priscilla alvarez, vanessa yurkevich, brian young and kara scannell. it's great to have you guys here tonight. we are happy -- the stories you are working on. between this the, florida and ron desantis is heating up. today, disney launched a

lawsuit against desantis at his handpicked oversight board to nullify dizzy special taxing district. disney alleges, quote, a targeted campaign of government retaliation, orchestrated at every step by governor ron desantis as punishment for disney's protected speech now threatens disease business operations, jeopardizes its future in the region, and violates its constitutional rights. vanessa yurkevich is on this story. so, vanessa, this is a plot twist. because up until now it has been desantis against disney but now disneyfiring back let see what happens next. >> this is round 25 between disney and desantis. and really, this is going to be a long, drawn out, battle between essentially desantis and the state of florida and disney. disney is suing desantis and the newly appointed board members after he ousted the old board members that were basically talking to disney about how they would continue to work with this huge corporations. but what we are seeing now is

this fight playing out in real time. this all happened, essentially, in the same moments. you have this board appointed by desantis, coming in to try to undo a lot of what disney has done with the previous board. and then at that same time, boom. you have this lawsuit dropped from business, essentially saying, desantis everything you are trying to do is completely unconstitutional and it's completely politically driven. >> and how is he responding? >> ron desantis is basically saying, doesn't, you don't get any special treatment here in florida. you are just like every other business. and ron desantis they essentially threatening to raise taxes on disney. that has a ripple effect, not only will taxes go up on disney, but other landowners that are protected under this district. so, desantis is really putting his foot down but could basically cause some harm along the way. >> -- i was wondering, isn't this good for florida? don't floridians like having disney in their backyard? -- >> -- i think so. -- disney is basically what put

orlando on the map in the 1960s. it draws in so many visitors. it draws in billions of dollars in revenue. many floridians love disney exactly for that reason. but a lot of floridians also like that desantis is taking a stand on, basically, what he thinks is an overstep of disney, basically going into the particular -- >> -- their wokeness, especially over the fact that disney came out and said that they do not support florida's don't say gay bill. and that's what kind of started this all a year ago. >> and we have been talking this week about the fact that republicans were not necessarily all on board with desantis going up against disney. so, an escalation like this also adds more of a wrinkle for desantis when it comes to coalescing his own party members to support him for a potential candidacy. but i will also say what i saw this news the first thing that came to mind was the flights that desantis orchestrated of migrants from texas to martha's vineyard. that, many critics called, a

political stunt, as he tried to get immigration at the forefront and criticize president joe biden. and it also ended up in a lawsuit. >> and who won that one? >> the judge ended up dismissing the lawsuit because the governor, essentially, added funds through the state legislator to continue these types of things. so, it sort of made the point moot. but it was a lawsuit all the same for something that he was going at. >> meanwhile, presidential candidate nikki haley seized on this today. so, what did she say? >> well, what we have been hearing -- disney and -- this is not the republicans stance. this is a republican going after business, getting involved in business. this is not what we normally -- >> she capitalized on what desantis has been doing. she basically is saying, hey, if you don't want disney, we will take -- >> -- a >> listen to what she said.

>> south carolina was a very anti woke state. it still is. and if disney would like to move their hundreds of thousands of jobs to south carolina and bring the billions of dollars with them, i will let them know, i would be happy to meet them in south carolina. >> and essentially, she's pointing out just how lucrative disney's to the state of florida and any state that would have a part of disney. and obviously, desantis is potentially revving up for an announcement to run for president, and nikki haley, will obviously be up against -- with donald trump. donald trump, by the way, is actually more nikki haley side then ron desantis's side. he saying what desantis he's doing is anti business, and that's actually not good for the state of florida and the president not living in the state of florida. >> i grew up in florida. so, when you think about someone trying to go after disney, you are like, hey, that's the 800 pound gorilla, right? they make a lot of money. people from all around the world want to come to florida to go to disney. >> oh, yeah.

>> a dream -- >> people get married there. >> -- >> -- that's what you want to do. the other side of this, though, is when you start talking about -- there is this idea of people like seeing desantis fight. and so there's another part of people who are like, oh, he's taking this on, he's taking the wokeness on. he's attacking it from the front. but at the same time, you look at all the jobs, you look at the impact that disney has on the florida economy. that's a big fight to take on. >> absolutely. can we imagine -- is disney capable of leaving florida and -- can they up and move that entire -- >> that is a moving companies dream, i'm sure. but they employ -- disney employee 75,000 people. they pay over a billion dollars in taxes every single year. and their ten-year plan is an additional 13,000 people and employees, and billions of more dollars in revenue that they plan to bring into the state. so, it is certainly not going

to be easy to get these need to leave. i don't think that's what anybody wants. but it's also certainly not going to be easy for them to sort of lay down and say we are not going to fight for what we believe, in both on a cultural level, but also on the level of, basically, not having to answer to anybody but disney. >> isn't disney like the auto industry? we can think about disney itself. but it's everything around disney. >> yeah. >> -- you have got the airport. that's all set up for you to come and have a good time at disney. the entire platform is. and it's one of the fastest-growing places in the state of florida. so, what would you do if that all of a sudden is -- >> that's why, kara, it confuses me. -- >> i have never been to disney. don't tell anyone. but i don't think -- also, he's talking about potting putting possibly a prison next door. so, it really seems to just want to drop some controversy here too. >> yeah. >> that's part of his play,

that he now feels like he has some sort of power over disney. he wants to put a prison in. he wants to raise taxes on things that disney, essentially, pays for to support the entire infrastructure. he is getting a little bit of power as he has moved to changeover this board to basically install people that he knows very well better lawyers. but this fight from disney, they have so much firepower, so much financial power behind them to step up against the state that it could go disney's -- >> -- should they be in the 16 tax exempt status or whatever they are? if he is going to change how they, i guess, pay their taxes to the state, are people interested? our floridian supportive of that? >> i think floridians are supportive of not having to pay more taxes themselves. so, essentially, though, if he's going to make it harder for disney to operate their, i don't know. could that have a ripple effect on floridians? floridians, as ryan was saying,

they love disney. even if they don't go every week, every weekend, they love having it in their backyard. it is such an institution to the state. it is synonymous with the state. i think that most people would say that they support disney. but also, maybe, to your point, some people support what desantis is doing, taking on a big corporation. >> but then you flip that question. what would every other state in the union due to get disney? >> i mean, right? >> what -- would they provide? so, it's interesting that we watch, so many businesses open a chip plant or open a manufacturing plant, and won't have the success of a disney. everybody wants to have a piece of that is the. it's unbelievable. when you think about the marvel properties -- you think about all that. so, you put all that together. >> that makes sense. all right, thank you all very much for that. now we need to talk about something that's happening right now. police are on the trail of three fugitives who escaped from a mississippi jail over the weekend. a fourth one has been

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what can you do with spy? ♪ ♪ >> -- sets it up with this -- >> a lot of pressure. >> -- there are dramatic developments tonight in the man hunt for for prison development escapees in -- dylan our inked, in casey grayson, cory harrison and jerry rains -- there on your screens right now. take a good look at them. they escape from the rain in detention center late saturday night. one of the four man is dead after a fire broke out in a home where he was allegedly shooting at police. ryan is on this story. okay, do police have any leads on where they think these guys are? >> that's really the big question tonight. that's why put those photos up on the screen is a big deal. there's an active may not even as we are --

>> right, and let me just say as someone who worked at america's most wanted for five years, it works. the viewers find people. if you see anybody matching this just call 9-1-1. you don't need to know the number in mississippi you can just call 9-1-1, and they will connect you if you know where those guys are. >> and that's important to say. because when you talk to law enforcement, we are the force multiplier for them. we are the eyes and ears. you see someone -- when they reported stolen vehicle or something, that is what helps moving forward -- but when you think about this case and how people have already been indicted by the public, the one guy that you talked about, dylan arrington, the one who is dead right now. he's actually somebody, according to police who, when he stole someone's motorcycle he crashed the motorcycle, a reverend went over to help him, and he shot and kill that reverend, according to police. and then he ended up in a shootout with police, shot a deputy, and that's who they found in a burning home later today. so, when you see the pieces of all us, and you know that three others are still on the loose, there are so many questions, not only about how did they escape, why did it take so long before america found out they

were still on the run? this almost plays out like a movie. they escaped from inside that facility by going through the roof. they stole a public utility vehicle and crashed through a fence. and then the men have all split up now. so, you have three on the run. they believe three of them could be in texas. and the force, this other guy who has already been killed. but there's so many questions now about how long it took the sheriff's deputies to figure out. the sheriff's department even said themselves, look, they take this on for themselves. they made a big mistake. in, fact take a listen to the sheriff and what he said earlier today. >> like i said, these three -- these individuals escape. this is the -- policy -- recently renovated. doors locked in this particular -- secure. the breach that they created was located within the -- so, he was in a secure area. >> right. that's part of the

investigation now. -- we've all covered jails before. once those doors closed, you think, they're not going to get out. -- apparently, that's what they did. they all of the different times and apparently there were able to get a knock on takeoff. the weird thing about this, jerry raynes actually escape from the same facility in 2021. so, there are issues here that are baked in that we all have to sort of talk about. >> i was just about to ask, what do we know about this facility? and also this department? is it a small apartment? were there enough people to monitor? >> that is a great question. and today the sheriff even said, they are 50 deputy short. >> there's a shortage of prison workers. >> we are starting to see that across the country. not only in prison, but in law enforcement in general, there is a massive amount of retirements that are going on, especially after covid, especially in law enforcement. we see this in other industries. but people are not signing up for these jobs like they used to. and then the economy has something to do with it. because you are not getting paid as much. and you are also dealing with people who, sometimes, are mentally ill. and there's a lot of

responsibilities at these facilities. but when you add all that together, we are in a particular time in this country where everyone wants to feel safe. so, you almost feel like you have to pay law enforcement more if you want some of the services. but at this point, no one is going to talk about that. because you've got three guys who are still on the loose, who may be in texas, who may be on the run. and maybe tonight someone looks up and sees that screen, at the same -- that this has been since saturday. >> this is been crazy. because this is the upshot of not having enough deputies. sometimes we do see, there are 58 deputies down. but you don't know what the real life consequences is. but go ahead, kara. >> -- do we know anything about the relationship between them? >> and that's what a fascinating. of course, when i watch the news conference today, he wondered, are they -- where they hanging out? did one of them have the plan? you've got to think about the guy who's 21. he's escaped before. did he go to them and say, hey, i got you, i know how to get out of here, here's a weakness? maybe we can figure that part out. and maybe he's the one guy who

is able to -- then you have the one who is obviously a little more violent. he goes on his own spree after this. and you think about a reverend stopping to help a man who crashed a motorcycle, and ends up getting shot and killed. -- almost a full stop. because you understand the pain in terms of everybody who's dealing with it. he was doing the right thing. and then he -- >> yeah, it's awful. but do police think that the other three are armed? >> that's a great question. it's like what you said earlier. if you see them, you have to call 9-1-1. because if you are willing to do an escape, you know your picture is going to be on television. if you are in texas -- i mean, i think the question we asked, before we went to break -- trying to head to mexico? and we think about the shortages on the border, which you cover all the time. or they're trying to get to a place where they can kind of escape across the border? these are all questions -- you don't think they really played this out all the way? but if you are already headed toward texas, what is your next step? >> what is law enforcement telling people to do. if you see them, obviously, call the authorities. but there are people out there,

at least three gentleman on the loose right now. they could be armed. are they saying, lock your doors? stay inside? one of them entered a home. it's pretty scary, if you are just a home alone -- it's dark, dark right now in many parts of the country. >> you think about all this. i covered casey white in alabama, when he made the escape, he had help some someone inside the jail. it was interesting when they -- figured out certain blocks of where they were, they were putting out small bursts of, hey, lock you doors, be on the lookout for an. but one of the things about this is, this group, if they are still together, they are such a sort of missed patch of guys -- maybe you notice something weird. i've covered stories before we are my producer and i, fit the description of people we are looking for, and have gotten pulled over, which is always a funny story. it's happened before. >> so, you've been pulled over because you look like a fugitive? >> it's happened, it's happened, it's happened. you -- just keep it moving. but at the same time, look, you've got one black, i've got two white guys, and you see

three guys in the car, you are probably going to get pulled over tonight. it all makes sense. but when you think about it, they all have -- the last car they were -- maybe it's already mid downtown they move to another one. and then he saw the gas station picture that they had at one point of one of the guys at the convenience store. so, it's that kind of thing where someone is going to say, hey, i saw this guy here. >> sure. >> -- >> he's a part of the question to, do they have connections to the outside? is there someone who is -- >> i'm sure these are part of the questions that law enforcement -- >> here's how i'm sure it works, as i'm sure you know. there was split up, the 21-year-olds will go home immediately to their connections, and they will immediately be arrested like tomorrow. and they are not off, and these guys -- the young ones, at least -- they are not long for the outside world. >> you are right in that sense. but what is scary about it is, is we now have a pattern where people same is desperate. and they find out that their front is already been killed in a shootout? and they now feel more pressure to do more to stay out there. so, i'm always considering,

what's the motive behind the crimes sometimes? and these other guys might be like, hey, we didn't sign up for that part of it. clearly, arrington went on his own way. but i would also wonder about is, is how much pressure is on law enforcement, especially in that small community. because now you have an entire detention facility that people are probably like, okay, you are 50 deputy short. and you have other people who are in. they're so, what happens next? >> all right. obviously we will stay on this. and everybody, just make sure you call your local law enforcement if you know any of those guys. okay. up next, e. jean carroll, back on the witness stand tomorrow in her battery and defamation trial against donald trump. after a first day a very emotional testimony. so kara is going to fill us in.

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>> an emotional day at a new york courtroom, were e. jean carroll took the stand in her lawsuit against former president trump. she testified, quote, i'm here because donald trump raped me, and when i wrote about, it he said he didn't. it didn't happen. he lied and shattered my reputation. and i'm here to try to get my life back. cnn's kara scannell was at the white house courthouse and is here to fill us in. -- >> right, so, in this, case e. jean carroll was on the stand for most of the day today. and this is her lawsuit against the former president. so, she testified in emotional testimony at times, saying that, actually, describing the scene, taking the jury into this moment. she said that she believed it

was a thursday night in the spring of 1996. she could not pinpoint any sooner than that. but she said, she had gone to bergdorf goodman's new york department store after work, was leaving just as donald trump, who was then, a fixture of the tabloids, 90s new york city. was coming in -- and he said hey, you are that advice columnist, and she said, hey, you are that real estate type kuhn. he said, come with me, i need to get a gift for a friend. they looked at handbag, they looked at hats. and then she said they took the escalator up to the sixth floor. that's where the lingerie was. she kept thinking, this is going to be a great story to tell my friends. here, i run into donald trump and we are going shopping. but then she said, this is when things turned violent, that they were joking over a piece of lingerie. you try it on. no, you tried on. then they ended up in the dressing room. this is when -- her allegation is that trump shoved are up against the wall, hard enough that her head hit the wall, he close the doors, which automatically locked. he pulled down her tights and he raped her. and then she said, from there, she was able to get her knee up

and push him off, left the department store, called a friend immediately. and that friend is also going to testify. and then she also spoke to another friend. and she was saying that the problem here, for her, was that she has not been able to have a romantic relationship since because she says it was the sense of flirting with someone and having it turned violent. and she's not been able to replicate that. she also said, then when trump came out and denied this, when she wrote her book, it then came public with the story. he denied, she said she was a liar. -- and said she received nasty emails. you got fired from her job as a columnist at all. and she saying that -- the ramifications of this. now, she's on the stand again tomorrow. she has a little bit more direct testimony from her lawyer. but then it's going to be cross-examination by trump's team. and out of the gate, and opening statements, they said this never happened. full stop. and they have said they are going to make their case through the plaintiffs witnesses. so, there has been a lot of time on cross examination of e.

jean carroll. they are going to try to poke holes in this. where is the evidence? it's a he said, she said. there are no eyewitnesses -- >> to that -- what does she need to prove? this is a defamation in battery case. so, does she need to prove that she was raped in order to prove defamation? or does she just need to prove that he defamed her and -- her reputation? >> so, this is what is so interesting. on the battery charge, the judge explained this to the jury just after he swore them down, to kind of set them up, so they can sort of hear the evidence in this. case and he said, what battery is, in a civil context, is unjustified touching without the consent of another person, that a reasonable person would find offensive. and he said that, in this civil context, it does not discriminate between violence of the touch. so, if they find that he shoved her up against the dressing room wall, that could be enough. it does not have to be rape. so, that leads a very big window here for the jury to look at. and then defamation -- it's more complicated.

but he told them -- just from the outset, this is -- saying something that you know is false to harm someone's reputation. so, that is the parameters of what they are going to be looking at here. and this is the civil case. so, again, it's the preponderance of evidence. it's not the same standard as a criminal case. so, it's really just 51%. there are nine jurors. it's six men, three women. and we will see how they taken all this evidence. >> are we going to hear from trump at all on this case? or is that not happening? >> so, he sat for a video deposition in october. and so they have already said they are going to play portions of that. but this has been a looming question. and the judge is pressing trump's attorney. he said, he needs to know by this week if trump is going to come into court, either to testify or just to observe the trial. he is on trial. and there is an empty seat in the courtroom right now. because he's not there. he's not required to be there. but the judges also saying, look, this is a security concern. we have got extra marshals here. we've got a magnetometer before anyone can put him into the

courtroom, just in case -- >> -- at the same time, he would have to come to new york city to testify. >> i mean -- yeah, second time in two weeks. remember the last time i was outside -- >> hours -- >> for hours and hours -- >> this is why you can't go to disney world. -- what does e. jean carroll want? what does she get if she wins? >> so, she is suing for attraction of a statement that he made in october, where he said this is a hoax, these allegations, that she made this up, suggesting that she did it to boost sales of her book. and he said repeatedly, she's not my type. she also wants compensatory punitive damages. she has not put a firm number on that. that would be a question, then, for the jury. >> it's been so many decades insists incident happened. how is that playing into this case? how do you try a case that happened so long ago? such a high-profile person, the former president of the united states? it >> happened so long ago and she only went public with it in

2019. so, that's a big gap here. there is not the physical evidence. there is no credit card receipts. there is new surveillance video. there is no phone records that anyone has suggested they are going to enter into evidence here. so, it's really going to be based on carroll her, cried ability, the two friends that she talked to who are going to be called to testify. and this is what i think is really interesting. the judge has allowed two other women who are not friends with e. jean carroll, who did not know e. jean carroll, but came forward in 2016, when some two dozen women had come forward with allegations of assault by donald trump. so, two women -- a former reporter for people magazine, who said she went to interview trump on the one year anniversary of his marriage to melania, and that he forcibly kissed her, and then another woman who said in 1979, she was sitting in a first class seat next to trump and that he groped her. so, both of those women are allowed to come in. and the way that e. jean carroll's attorneys presented this in the opening statements is, they said this was one man. this was one pattern.

and it's three women. that he -- in a semi public place -- groped and grabbed them, assaulted them, and then, when they went public about it, said they were too ugly for me to assault. so, they laid this out pretty firmly. of course, that's opening statements. but then this is where trump's attorneys are going to attack the stories. >> i think the big question a lot of people are going to have is, why are we going to see this on television? because everyone expects to see everything now laid out on television. so i know -- can we just explain why? >> yeah, this is the federal court system. federal courts don't allow cameras in the courtroom. there are some very unique circumstances where they sometimes do it. but i cover the southern district of new york all the time. they just don't allow it. so, the only windows into this are through the reporters that are there. and i find it such a privilege to go and cover courts and trials. it's history in the making. and it's drama you could never anticipate. and the court sketch artists that give you that quick image of the scene inside the room --

>> we are all guilty of this now. we listen to people's voices when they testify. and we start trying to glean whether or not we believe them. and we lose that by not seeing them. >> absolutely. >> i'm all for cameras in the courtroom for sure. so, kara, tell us about another investigation into donald trump. -- >> yeah, the jack smith investigation led by the special counsel. he has been in contact with -- you or may remember this former fox producer, abby grossberg, she was fired from fox after she sued them. this all came out as part of the dominion lawsuit. >> she worked for maria bartiromo and then -- >> -- there had been depositions of a number of producers. and some of these anchors and hosts themselves. so, abby grossman, who worked for those two, was deposed. and then in the middle of this process as they were heading into trial, she filed a lawsuit saying that fox had pushed her testimony in one direction. now, fox has denied this completely.

but since then she has gone public with some audio, including conversations that maria bartiromo had with rudy giuliani and sidney powell to -- pushing that the election was stolen, that there was potential fraud that dominion. either of those things were true. but she came forward with that. very silly, interestingly, jack smith has said -- talking -- lawyer -- we want to hear the tapes. so, her lawyer was on cnn and said we have 90 audiotapes, but -- he doesn't even know what is on all of them. so they're trying to work with the special counsel and work it out for some kind of subpoena for her to turn these -- >> jack smith is looking at it to see if rudy giuliani or sidney powell said something about january 6th? this is about the planning for january 6th, he thinks? the >> question that he is looking at is the interference in the transfer of power. so, giuliani and sidney powell, they were -- the lawsuits. but i think the question here is, what were they saying publicly and arguing and what were they saying privately?

so, potentially, what were they even saying to the former president? because the question is, what did he know? what was his intent when he was doing this. and one rationalization people have said is, he might have really believed his attorneys. because rudy giuliani was a u.s. attorney in new york. he was a very substantial lawyer. so, if trump really believed them, that is one thing. and that's a good defense for him. but if they knew and were having conversations that this was not true, that is a tougher defense for him. >> do you think they were trying to get his hands on their tape before this lawsuit played out? or do you think dominion kind of opened things out for them to go in and say, hey, i want to hear, that i want to hear that, knowing what was in this lawsuit? >> i can't imagine they would know that these tapes even existed before she went public with it. the fascinating thing about this is the special counsel has been moving at a rapid clip. they have been conducting a lot of interviews, and subpoenaing a lot of records. but also, this was such a massive --

it's the election. it touches so many different corners. these things that you cannot even anticipate. what was so interesting was how swiftly they move to try to get these tapes. because their attorneys saying that they heard from them almost immediately after these tapes became public. so, definitely on the case here, and moving quickly -- >> kara, thank you very much for all that information. meanwhile, president biden is addressing a big concern of a lot of voters, including democrats. they had this concern as he re-launches his election campaign. and that, of course, is his age. so, priscilla alvarez has that when we come back. with new scope squeez mouthwash concentrate, add water, squeez twice, or even three times. control the squeez, control the strength and find a zone all your own.

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president biden addressing concerns about his age as he kicks off his reelection campaign. and priscilla has new reporting for us. okay, so today, president biden answer to the question about his age is a keeps getting a little differently than he has been. >> that's right, and this is a critical moment because it's his first substantial response to this question, and he said that he took a hard look at it himself. so i think we have the sound. >> you have said questions about who are age are legitimate. and your response is always, just watch me. but the country is watching, and recent polling shows, it's 70% of americans, including the majority of democrats, believe you shouldn't run again. what do you say to them? what do you say to those americans who are watching and aren't convinced? >> with regard to age, i can't

even say i guess how old i am, i haven't can't even say the number. it doesn't register with me. it iodice i can say is that one of the things that people are going to find out, are going to see and they're gonna judge, whether or not i have it or don't have it. i expect them to take a hard look at. it i take a hard look as well. i took a hard look at before i decided to run. >> the other part of that that was interesting later on is he was asked, would you still have run if it wasn't against the former president, donald trump? and he said that he would have. now of course we have been talking about this week how voters are concerned about how old he is. we shouldn't forget the trump himself is in his late 70s. but i have been reading some polls and surveys as we have consider this question over and over, and what i have found is that voters, they have concerns about age, but they still vote for those candidates. so think about, for example, congress, where we have many

members, and a lot of them are older. people put them in that position of power. and then there's also been polling to show that voters, when they think about this question, don't really know what the cap is. the numbers they gather in their 50s, maybe a max of 70. and yet, when you look at the senate, the house, and now the president, which is yes, another position, a very important position of power, we have folks who are older. so, anyways, biden addressing this today, he's going to keep getting this question. the white house framing has always been questioning in the 2020, look where he is now, we're probably gonna hear more from him as he goes on these trips, but it is a busy few weeks ahead for the president, where he is going to be out front quite a bit domestically. >> one of the things he talks about is having the stamina for the job and the campaign, which requires an incredible amount of endurance and stamina. if he can do it, he says watch

him, but it depends on how old you are, how old you think the president should be, and in fact, cnn's kfile dug up a 29 year old joe biden, who at that time thought that there was an expiration date for politicians. so let's get in the time machine and look at that. >> oh, we don't have sound to that? let me see. oh, we don't have any sound of that. >> i walk you through it. let's go back to 1972. biden was 29 years old. he was a local delaware councilman. and he was running against a republican senator, kayla box, 63 years old, and he put it, simply in talking, that he lost the old twinkle in his eyes. those are biden's words. the kfile, is they looked into, and noticed that it was really prominent the way the biden was going after he is opponents age in this race. who >> was just 63.

>> who was just 63. and in the end, biden won that race, but even when he won, it the headlines were about defeating the old. it was just a really prominent moment, but to your palm to your point, he was 29. we look at age differently now. the way biden looks at his age is win when he tells to reporters, look at my experience, look at what that brings to the table. but it was interesting that of course our colleague would find that clip, as he does. he finds in the archives. >> how differently 29 year olds feel. >> i'm sure he looks back and says wasn't i naive? now he's getting all these questions about. it >> he is, and look, it's interesting, because we have so many -- going into november of 2024, and republicans are going to mention this. but they are really going to focus on the issues. i went back again and looked at that rnc video, then we talked

about last night with a.i., and they go after the issues. they go after the economy, crime, the border, and they tick through all of those to say that president biden is not someone who americans would want for a second term. so are we going to keep hearing about this from voters? probably, especially as he is out on these different trips. and we're gonna hear from republicans. with the primary candidate for them is also it is late 70s. so is age really going to play in that? i don't know. we're going to hear from voters the most, but what we're seeing is the issues. >> okay, friends, thank you for all of. that of next we have on the lookout, our reporters are gonna tell us what stories they are looking out for on the horizon. we'll be right back. to grow more vibrant flowers: step one: feed them with miracle-gro shake 'n feed. that's it. miracle-gro. all you need to know to grow.

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>> [laughter] we're back with our fabulous pedal reporters to tell us what stories they are keeping an eye on. we call it on the lookout. okay, priscilla, you. >> i have my eyes on the hill for a different reason. that's not the debt ceiling. julie, sue the acting labor secretary, she was the deputy and she has been filling and helping the department ever since bernie walsh stepped down. her nomination passed through senate committee today, but now the big challenge is, will she get passed in the senate. the reason this is important is because the white house is going to want to have their labor secretary confirmed. but she was narrowly confirmed when she went to the deputy while republicans have voted against her. and now they are trying to coalesce democrats to get on board. the white house has been

leading high-level efforts to get those votes to happen. this is the highest ranking official, and if she does not get confirmed, it would be quite a failure for the administration, which has wanted to have every post confirmed at the cabinet level. >> okay, we will look out for. that thank you. okay, vanessa? >> i am keeping an eye on the looming writers strike that could happen may second. this is the writers guild of america, and negotiating with big studios. and a strike could happen may second if they don't come up with a new contract. so that means no late night tv, no snl, or your favorite movies and tv shows, paused -- >> but would that mean? we were to see reruns? >> potentially. or sometimes we have seen in the past just late night hosts kind of going on the fly and making it up as they go along. but this could have severe economic impact if it does happen, if there is a strike, billions of dollars in losses, ultimately. the last strike was in 2007, two billion dollars in economic

losses. talking, there was cason area isee a bunch of d the city, california, on strike. >> okay, got it. thank you for that. >> a lot of serious stories over there. i'm focused on the nba. i can't wait. gotta get away from this job every now and then. so the miami heat are playing well, the nba, getting tnt, charles is joining us. i love the idea of who's watching basketball this time of year. but i see that because a lot of people haven't taken the mantle breaks the need to take. so that's my way to escape the world we're in right. now >> why not? i like that. we all need a little escape, for sure. okay, kara? >> so i have to. hunter biden's lawyers met with the doj today and we all thought that this investigation was wrapping up last summer, so i am just going to try to find out with my colleagues what happened at that meeting, if there's any sense of when doj will make a decision in this case. my other one, thinking out loud, media again tomorrow, for this

copyright -- thinking out loud and whether it copied marvin gaye, so, he will be back on the stand, possibly. so be very interesting. i saw him in the cafeteria today. >> wow. >> very cool. >> he's just like the rest of. us >> [laughter] >> sitting there eating lunch. i'm interested in seeing him on the stand. okay, fantastic. gator spent tonight with. you tomorrow, on cnn this morning, inside the craze around new weight loss drugs, how it is impacting diet culture and body acceptance. tune in for that. thanks so much for watching tonight. our coverage continues now.

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