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good morning, everyone. we're so glad you're with us this thursday. let's get started with the five things to know. tucker carlson is talking. message to viewers released minutes after the text message that's may have led to the firing from fox news. >> plus, inside the home of the air national guardsman now accused of leaking sensitive secrets online. prosecutors releasing new pictures and details overnight as they make their case that he poses, quote, a serious flight risk. also, house republicans in washington passing a plan to raise the debt ceiling by the slimmest of margins. president biden said he is ready to meet with speaker kevin mccarthy and talk about cuts in the house plan but says raising the debt ceiling not up for debate. ron desantis blasting disney's lawsuit against him and the oversight board saying the suit has no merit.

he claims it's political. disney says desantis is punishing free speech. also, feeling the heat. miami pulled off a massive upset over milwaukee bucks after this circus shot by jimmy butler sent the game into overtime. >> he's on a roll this week. "cnn this morning" starts right now. tlaeand there was some sing last night. >> by the south korean president at the white house. >> i love it. ♪ >> total surprise. >> look at his face. ♪ chains ♪ >> he's pretty good, right?

>> that's the president of south korea. he is at capitol hill today. >> the state dinners at the white house is the best part of covering the white house. >> you don't go to them but you can watch. you stand right there. you watch people come in. you see everyone invited. a lot of celebrities. mitt romney was there last night. i did not see kevin mccarthy at this one. >> we'll get into that. he has a lot on his plate. also this, we're going to start here. it's remarkable. hearing from tucker carlson for first time since the firing. new and ugly details emerge about why fox news got rid of the highest rated prime time star. "the new york times" reports the breaking point came after fox executives discovered startling, highly offensive and crude private text messages from carlson on the eve of the dominion trial, not long after that, a report dropped, tucker carlson posted this video on twitter. he didn't mention fox news by name. >> when honest people say what's

true calmly and without embarrassment, they become powerful. at the same time, the liars who have been trying to silence them shrink and they become weaker. that's the way the universe works. true things prevail. >> no mention there of that new reporting from the new york tombs. that report says the text messages discovered by fox news executives were even worse apparently than those revealed leading up to the trial, the ones we saw in public. there is one message so particularly offensive it added to the concern at the top of the company calls a crisis in the days when they felt they were going trial. we don't know what that message was. "the wall street journal" did report yesterday that karlsson called a senior fox news executive the c word. of course, the c word he used to describe sidney powell in the election conspiracy theorist a regular guest on other shows on fox news. here's how one of carlson's former producers is now suing the network describes the culture of that show behind the

scenes. >> women were objectfied. it was a game. it was a sport. female place female politician that's came on the shoate were mocked. there would be debate who's they would rather sleep with. c word all the time. >> let's bring in our media reporter and cnn's anchor and political analyst john avalon. and cnn political analyst natasha alford. this is the front page of "the new york times" saying carlson's text ignited a crisis for fox chiefs right before they thought they were going to trial. what struck me was the attorneys have the messages. why did the executives no the see them until the eve of the trial? >> in part because they were redacted. the fact this they're redacted means they won't come in public view. you don't know when they'll be unredacted in the future. you see the stuff coming out. you're surprised by management

and then also worried that from a reputational perspective if and ever this does become public, you have to deal with that crisis. and that's where it becomes a huge risk. >> it might become public because "the new york times" is, associated press, npr have all challenged the redactions. >> yeah. >> maybe this was a move to get ahead of. that it boggles your mind that it was these text messages that were the sort of straw that broke the camel's back. after all the things that tucker carlson had done and said, rewriting history around january 6, promoting the great replacement theory, these must be really awful. they must also go to the heart of something. >> i mean, fox didn't bear a cost for all of that. in fact, it gained them viewership on tucker's show. the cost they bore was $787.5 million in the settlement. so they finally had to pay. >> they finally had to pay. there is outstanding suits as well. maybe they thought that firing tucker would be a sign, send a

signal culturally inside the organization. but there are other personalities promoting election lies a lot more loudly and consistently than tucker carlson. and they still have jobs right there. so, we'll see. they're outstanding cases. whatever was in the text messages was apaurparently madee murdoches flip the switch. >> if what's in the text messages is misoj nis tick behavior and facing a lawsuit from a former producer about creating an environment of this behavior, that's when it becomes ultimately very problematic. it's not just the culture and reputational issue. it could be a legally implicating issue. >> what's your sense of this? we have seen fox fire prominent hosts before that had really good ratings. i mean, bill o'reilly and glenn beck as well. with tucker leaving, its too soon to know and make an honest

assessment. the ratings have been down that hour. and news max, a rival to them, saw a five times jump in their ratings. >> you can't serve two masters. you have to make a decision about the culture of an organization is going to be. it really starts at leadership. we've seen leadership over at fox news sort of abuse, you know, abuse their power. roger ails, that situation. also, it's the small things. the little things. i think abby grossberg when you look at the details of what she is accusing, it's just a culture that is rife with misogyny from top to bottom. >> she is a producer we just heard from at the top of the show. let's switch gears. disney and the next legal move has filed a first amendment lawsuit, sarah, against ron desantis. and ron desantis spoke out about this, dismissing it in israel. he gave a speech there highlighting his own state's stance on fighting

anti-semitism. and also, he defended himself against this legal battle with disney on wednesday. the company filed a lawsuit accusing desantis and allies of weaponizing government power to punish the company for exercising its free speech. here is what the governor just said and then we'll get into disney. >> they have no accountable. that arrangement was not good for the state of florida and we deposit think that should continue. now we brought accountability. every other floridian has to have this type of oversight, all florida businesses. it's a little bit much toing complaining about that. i don't think the suit has merit. i think it's political. >> people of florida understood this is an issue. do you want one company to have their own thiefdom or have everyone live under the same laws? >> okay. all the leading first amendment lawyers here including really

prominent one say this disney case has a lot of merit. >> i think. so part of the reason is desantis has not been shy about the fact that there is a retall torre motive behind going after disney. it's not as though he thinks that disney has violated florida rules or is taking advantage of the position, it's because you wants go after disney for the position that disney took against his don't say gay bill. >> this is ron desantis on march 29th, 2022, after disney spoke out against this bill. this is what desantis said then. >> for disney to come out and put a statement and say that the bill should have never passed and that they are going to be actively work to repeal it, i think one is fund. ally dishonest. i this i that crossed the line. this state is governed by the interests of the people of the state of florida. it is not based on the demands of california corporate executives. we're going to make sure we're

fighting back when people are threatening our parents and threatening our kids. >> i mean, that's the smoking gun, right? in this suit, what disney is saying is this is targeted government retaliation. and there you have one example of money where the governor of florida seems to be saying this is a targeted retaliation in response to disney speaking out against a bill he backed. >> let's also talk about the political aspect of this, though. this is something nikki haley is weighing in on this yesterday saying disney is welcome to come to her home state of south carolina. she was saying we don't want woke culture but she said i think essentially the word something about acting in that way when it odomcomes to compan. chris christie spoke out saying it undermines the values of conservatism to be going after corporations in the way that desantis is. does it hurt him politically? >> i think it does. 75,000 employees were thinking about, these are people with families, people who pour into the economy. there is all the related businesses. it's no the just about disney.

it's about all the other business that disney drives. and, so, you're picking this fight with this company but it's also affecting communities, real people on the ground in florida. so, i think this might backfire. i think nikki haley's little dig there was a shoutout to trump to say this -- the way that trump is branding ron desantis, i think it is sticking. this disney case proves a point. >> let me pick up one point. this action is so anti-conservative. >> you call it conservative for so long. what do you make of this? this is the least conservative thing you can imagine. state government punishing a private corporation for expressing an opinion. one of the state's largest employers in a tourism huff backed -- tourism-backed economy. >> go ahead. >> it shifted. it used to be so pro h-business

and corporate america. now it is family values, anti-wokism. the republican party he is trying to cater to is not thinking about the fact they're going after corporations. their thinking about the fact that they're protecting familiar values. >> we'll get into the smaller and smaller groups you're appealing to. you're trying to tell people how to think about family, how to think about identity. it doesn't work. you can't legislate that. >> button this up for us, s sar. >> there's a reason these businesses are in florida. >> a ton of businesses are pouring there way beyond disney. >> it's a vacation destination. having a reliably strong weather situation in florida is really key. it's a place people have come to know. people buy houses, if you're a disney fan, you're not leaving f you're a disney fan, this bridge is political. people who are republicans, they might say they agree with ron desantis. at the end of the day, they still bring in a 4-year-old to

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this morning, the suspected leaker of highly classified military documents is set to appear for a detention hearing. the 22-year-old airman who was arrested at his family home in that dramatic scene in massachusetts earlier this mosh month, he is facing charges after he posted more than 100 top secret documents to the social media platform known as discord. in new court documents, the information to which the defendant had access and did access far exceeds what his publicly been disclosed on the internet to date. >> prosecutors go on to say he appears to have taken a series of objective steps intended to thwart the government's ability to ascertain the full scope of what he obtained and the universe of unauthorized users with whom he shared these materials. this is what they're talking about. prosecutors say they found a tablet, lab top, xbox gaming console smashed and in the dumpster at his home.

remember, that's where they went to apprehend him. they also show a military-theme room, arsenal of weapons, and a target practice poster riddled with bullet holes. they also found he allegedly searched the terms ruby rindge chuting and uvalde, some of worst mass shootings in this country. >> yeah. we'll continue to track that detention hearing happening today. also new overnight, a federal appeals court cleared the way for former vice president mike pence to testify to a grand jury that is investigating what happened on january 6th. the court says the former president trump cannot stop his vice president from speaking under oath about the pressure he felt to declare the results of the 2020 election invalid. >> trump can still appeal to the supreme court. >> this comes ahead of new developments in another legal fight for the ex-president. in a few hours, we expect the woman accusing former donald trump of rape to take the stand today. that is l. jean carroll. she testified yesterday in the

mid 90s trump raped her in a dressing room. he denied that accusation. he called it a hoax. on the stand though, l. jean carroll said i'm here because donald trump raped me and when i wrote about it, he said it didn't happen. he lied and shattered my reputation. i'm here to try to get my life back. she also choked up and said the alleged incident changed her life saying, quote, it left me unable to ever have a romantic life again. our senior legal affairs paula reed joins us now. powerful, disturbing testimony. she'll be cross examined today. >> she will. she waited decades to tell her story in a court of law under oath. while we know manufacture the details because she spoke about them here on cnn and with other outlets, it's a different thing to hear her in a silent courtroom speaking through tears, discussing how she encountered donald trump in this department store and what happened. what she says happened when they went in that dressing room. but today, she will have a few

more questions from her attorneys on direct-examination. but then she will be cross examined by trump's attorneys. even the most experienced defense attorneys will tell that you is a delicate task. they're going to try to paint her as someone who made this up for political purposes. and her attorneys did ask her and try to get ahead of this talking about whether she had any political motivation and while she admitted to not liking donald trump politically, she said i'm not settling a political score. i'm settling a personal score because he called me a liar repeatedly and it is really decimated my reputation. i'm a journalist, the one thing i had is the trust of my readers. >> yeah. trump is going off against this case. right before, you know, no the only this dramatic scene of her getting on the stand, her voice c shaking, testifying, but right before trump was railing against this whole case on social media and the judge got involved here. this isn't a surprise. the judge was very stern with trump's attorneys about him

weighing in on this. >> he threw out a conspiracy theory that somehow she was politically motivated, being funded by someone else in order to go through with this case. he has to really be careful. not only has he insulted her on a personal level saying she wasn't attractive enough for him to even consider, it's this, you know, the discrediting of an accuser is something that a lot of accusers face. it is really relatable. if her story is powerful and if she goes through this cross-examination and comes out believable, again, i think that is a problem for donald trump. >> no question about it. look, this is someone that is a very distinguished journalist. she wrote a great book on hunter thompson. the testimony yesterday was heartwrenching. this idea she was unable to have a romantic life. this is a case that is almost three decades old. in that cross-examination today, you know, trump's lawyers, a lot of things but delicate is not one of them. so watch out. >> i think he would agree with that. >> he would.

so, that's going to be a very difficult needle to thread. as you said, the judge smacking down trump for the public comments he's making, this is a case you can't appeal to the court of public opinion. >> if you want to say that, you have the opportunity to take the stand. and there is some questions about this. there are legitimate questions in this case as there are in all cases. but the place to talk about it is the courtroom, not social media. >> while we have you here, let's thank you about the hunter biden meeting. this was going to happen, he was going to meet the legal team and meet with the justice department legal team that have been investigating this for years? >> at least five years, yes. >> what do we know about what happened in this meeting? what the point was? >> we knew last week, we were the first to report that hunter bu biden's attorneys reached out asking for a status update for this case going on since around 2018. the justice department said, sure, come on in. we'll have a chat. that took on new significance after this whistle-blower came

forward alleging this whole investigation has been mishandled. yesterday we spotted one of hunter biden's lawyers going into the justice department. we learned that the legal team met with at least one official from the tax division and one or two officials from the u.s. attorney's office. now, of course, there is a trump appointed u.s. attorney in delaware who stayed off after the former president left to oversee this investigation. our last report on the status of the charges last summer, our colleague reported that they had wit willed down to one charge. but nothing happened for nearly a year. this is the first public event in this case. but at this point, it's unclear what happened in this meeting. i was told not to expect a final disposition of the case hunter's lawyers want to know what is going snon on here. >> and also dealing with house republicans investigating him as well. paula reed, thank you so much.

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senator schumer thinks he has a plan, put it on the floor. see if he can pass it. then we can go to conference. >> that's house speaker kevin mccarthy taking a small victory lap after the house passed the debt limit plan that includes sweeping spending cuts over the next decade. the measure is dead on arrival in the democratic led senate as we heard from schumer who he was just calling on there. part of the deal he made to become speaker means it takes one dissatisfied member of the caucus to file a discharge petition against him that could remove him from power. so far that, is not an indication that is going to happen. but there are major questions about what is ahead for kevin

mccarthy and his caucus. lauren fox is live on capitol hill with more. lauren, of course, there were big questions on whether or not republicans would get here. we were checking in with you about 24 hours ago. they did get here with a narrow majority. the question is, what happens next? >> yeah. this vote was a squeaker. it was about as close as you could get, caitlyn. still they got this across the finish line. the house speaker heading to the floor yesterday according to a source familiar with his thinking went to the floor confident. but there was still a question whether or not they were going to be able to pull this off. this was the culmination of work months in the making, trying to bring factions together from the conservative and moderate wing of his party. there were more than a dozen listening sessions with the whip team over the course of the last 2 1/2 months. this really just the beginning of the negotiation. this proposal is not going anywhere. in the democratic-controlled

senate. the bug qu the big question mark this morning, how is the white house, whether joe biden is going to sit down once again with kevin mccarthy. it has been almost 90 days since the two met. and there is new details that we're getting that this debt ceiling could need to be increased as early as june, caitlyn. that doesn't leave a lot of time. and we just don't know what the path forward is going to be. this was all about rallying kevin mccarthy's troops, showing he had unity behind him. where does that go from here and where does that lead? we don't have the answer this morning. >> and president biden was asked about this yesterday in the rose garden. he said he is happy to sit down with kevin mccarthy. he is still insisting on a debt ceiling without all the conditions and strings attached it to. i think one question i have, so hard for republicans to make sure they kept him onboard to get this passed this time. if kevin mccarthy does sit down with biden and schumer, they do negotiate, how does he keep republicans onboard for whatever it is they agree to? is that a possibility that can

be a big roadblock for him? >> yeah. i sat down yesterday with a number of republicans who worked on this proposal. they were asked repeatedly that very question, what do do you if kevin mccarthy comes back to you with a proposal that is so different than the one that you guys work sod hard to get passed and across the finish line, and its argument is they didn't want to deal in hypotheticals. they believe in the speaker. one interesting moment that happened yesterday behind closed doors is ralph norman, a conservative member, who has at times been at odds with speaker mccarthy. he asked him, how do i know this bill isn't going to change significantly? he said that what he heard from the speaker yesterday was that he is not going to bring down too watered down version of this bill. i think that is so interesting. it is so significant. how do you thread the needle? we just don't know the answer. >> yeah. the hypotheticals moo might become a reality soon, lauren. thank you so much.

president biden taking on a key issue in this race for the white house again. it's his age. he talks about how it factored into his own decision to run again. also this -- >> holy hail! severe weather hits central texas yesterday with hail the size of tennis balls. the man that shot this video said the bull was fine. the hail smashed windows and cars. it is not the last of the severe weather this week though. there is a storm threat across the gulf coast. we're going to check in with the cnn weather center. stay with cnn for updates.

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welcome back. we have an update on a story we're following. one of four unmates that escaped from a mississippi jail has been found dead. police say the charred remains were pulled from a home about an

hour north of jail, the jail where he escaped from following a two hour standoff with law enforcement wednesday. officials believe the 22-year-old also killed a pastor while on the run earlier this week. they're still searching for the three others that escaped from the heinz county jail. also this morning, three major national newspapers are running a full page ad pushing for the release of evan gerskovich. he is wrongly detained in russia. yesterday marked a full month in captivity for "the wall street journal" reporter who russia is accusing of espionage. it is signed by the editors and publishers of the journal, "washington post" and "new york times." it calls for his immediate release and notes, quote, reporting is not a crime. turning to 2024 and the race for the white house. president biden and his aides lo looked at his age before making a decision to run. >> with regard to age, i can't even say.

if i guess how old i am. i can't even say the number. it doesn't register with me. the only thing i can say is that one of the things that people are going to find out, they're going to see a race and judge whether or not i have it or don't have it. >> here's a number, 80. biden at 80 is the oldest president in american history. if it reelected, he will be 86 by the end of the next term. natasha and john are back us with. he intends to, if he wins, fulfill his full term. >> yes. >> right. there was hubbub about that earlier. what do you make of how he addressed it? >> it was not very artful. i mean, look, i know that president biden is frustrated by the constant questions about his age. but they exist for a reason. ending a second term at age 86 is unprecedented. >> this is a really legitimate question to ask. >> it absolutely is. and it doesn't help matters when, you know, you see him getting cheat sheets for questions and interviews and things like that.

he's been a consequential president. this is a legitimate area of concern. >> what you're referencing there is holding this card in that press conference yesterday that suggested one of the questions he was going to get from an "l.a. times" reporter. the reporter did not submit it to the white house in add vance. on the age thing, you know, president biden was saying the number doesn't really register with him. it does register with voters. you see numbers polls. they still say they don't want him to be the nominee again. >> right. there is an ideal and then there is the reality though. i think that ideally a lot of democratic voters in particular would prefer a younger president. but when they look at the choices, when they look at the alternative, they say i would still rather this president that feels competent, that feels, you know, he genuinely cares and he won't go off the rails. we have to remember that donald

trump is also in his 70s as well. he may not get the same scrutiny because the confidence with which he speaks. but he has moments where he says things that are off the wall. you wonder. you wonder about his mental s stability as well. >> there is a piece in "the new york times" this morning. he talks about the point you brought up. enthusiasm in young voters. the highest hurdle is not age, it's his passion. he points to pretty low polling among young voters. so really young voters about enthusiasm for president biden. do you think there is merit to that? >> yeah. i think it's difficult when you have a star like obama. he was a star or ator. they leave a sort of impression. the for a lot of younger voters, they're thinking of that era. that really made so many younger voters want to come out.

the reality is it was older black voters in south carolina who helped joe biden even be in the conversation, younger, voters of color. joe biden was not the top pick when we were talking about this, you know, four years ago. so, yes, i think it makes sense. >> benefit older voters than younger? >> we'll see who shows up. >> as biden says, don't compare me to the almighty. >> that is his favorite line. there is a reason for it. >> clearly. helped him get to the white house. all right. great having you here this morning. >> also new this morning, i'm sure in your friend circles, whatever age you, are you've been talking about the weight loss drugs. right? a weight loss and diabetes injectable from eli lilly, they're now moving to try to get the fda to fast track it for obesity. we'll talk to a lead doctor on this ahead. and experience the intense thrills and incredible offers on any of five mercededes-benz electric vehicles.

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answers with our doctor. she is a medical director of tirzepatide obesity at eli lilly. good to have you. thank you very much, doctor, for joining us. one question is, this study was done, obviously, by the drug company, funded by the drug company. has any independent study been done of this drug to treat obesity that has in no way been funded by eli lilly? >> so, no. these are phase 3 clinical trials which are the trials that you do to task how safe a drug is and how well it works before you're able to get approval for a certain indication. so, these are the first trials that are typically done. and they are a standard done by the companies. >> okay. can we talk about side effects? i named the most prevalent ones according to your company. mounjaro, the brand most people

know in terms of using this for diabetes list side effects including tumors in the thyroid, tie thyroid cancer, kidney failure, severe stomach problems, changes in vision. given those exist, is it still appropriate to market it for weight loss solely? posh to. >> announcer: -- important to understand that tirzepatide is for glucose control. it is being investigated for weight management. part of that investigation, we look at both how effective it, is how well it works, and the side effect profile. so, we have seen a couple things. first, we've seen up to 16 or almost 16% reduction in a type 2 diabetes population. that typically has a much harder time losing weight compared to people without type 2 diabetes. and then the side profile is reassuring. very similar to what we saw in

our type 2 studies for mounjaro. so, like you said, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, c constipation. so very manageable side effects when you think about the history of weight loss therapeutics in the past. >> there is a possibility of some of the other side effects i noted, correct? >> so, as with any agent for any disease at all, there is possibility of more rare side effects indeed with this class of medication. what you mentioned is certainly accurate. this is a class of medications. in that class, there is a rare incidents of pancreatitis. the thyroid cancer is seen in rodents but not yet in humans. people that have a history of a certain thyroid cancer shouldn't

get this medication. that is very rare. >> one of eli lilly's competitors in this space is nova nortis. they revealed that patients that had been on their weight loss drug risked he regaining all their weight back in five years. is this something people should understand? if you get this fda approval, your drug is one that they're going to have to take for life? >> this is such an important question. and i think it's really interesting for us to flekt on why this question gets asked so much. why do we ask this for weight management and for obesity? if you go to the doctor for high blood pressure, for a heart disease, asthma, arthritis, even hiv, we don't as the question, do i have to take a medication for life? i think that's because as a society, we understand that those are chronic diseases. that need chronic treatment. i think we really need to

embrace and acknowledge as a society that when we're talking about weight management, we're talking about obesity, a chronic, serious medical disease. that deserves treatment. so this treatment is often chronic. >> that sounds like a yes to me. but you're justifying why it's a yes. okay. let's move on to the cost. you don't have a pricetag out there yet, is that right? >> yes, i can't really speak to the price. i'm on the development sued of the company. >> okay. >> a comparison for people to understand. similar drugs on the market for obesity cost between $1300 and $1500 a month without insurance. we don't know if insurance is going to cover this for most folks. will eli lilly help cover that cost? it's a ton of money for a low-income individuals. >> so, i think it's really important to understand how

complex the issue is about access. we're committed to getting access to the -- for the people that need i had. that is going to require all of us to work together. obesity is the largest disease epic we have in society today and probably in the history of i will necessaries. we're working with several organizations to come together as a government, as a society to really figure out how are we going to get the therapy that's are being innovated to day to the right people that need them around the world? and we're committed to that and a lot of efforts in that space. >> help us understand what that means. there will be lobbying to get it covered by medicare, for example, medicaid. but you guys stand to make a ton of money on this. and the thought it may be only accessible by the richest folks i think is troubling to some

people. are there steps that eli lilly would take to lower the cost for those that don't have that much money? >> i think, again, we are, obesity effects the low-income minority populations and, you know, even more so we're very kog niz a cognizant of that. again this is why we're so committed to working on the access. it's not as simple as price. it is about the coverage. it's about providers prescribing it, being able to take it long term and really manage the disease. a very complex issue. i think that, you know, we have to work together. we are working together with the organizations that i mentioned. in order to do our part as well as, you know, work with others to help them do theirs. >> all right. dr. nadia almed, thank you.

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