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in that case the artist lost. to time the musicians are coming at the artist. no surprise ed sheeran brought his guitar into the courtroom to make his case. >> what a way to make the case. the last one, they put an acknowledgment, a credit to marvin gaye. >> every artist copies to some extent, but that chord is not where you want to hash that out. >> that's amazing. our great producer sam put that together. all right. "cnn this morning" continues right now. just because somebody disagrees with you doesn't make them bad or evil. we are all more the same than we are different and there are so many people -- [ cheers and applause ] >> there are so many people who are trying to stoke those differences, and we have to try as best we can to look for the
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light. >> look for the light. good message on a final night of james corden's show. that was hope, guys, for the future? >> yeah. >> a little bit of unity. all right. so let's start there. but there is this in the end. donald trump could not stop mike pence from testifying. his own former vice president appearing before the federal grand jury investigating january 6th. also, cnn live on the ground in ukraine after russian missiles killed at least 16 people across the country, including small children. this is the largest scale assault we have seen in more than a month. and the host of tomorrow night's white house correspondents dinner will join us live this hour, this morning, starts now. ♪
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lots of developments this morning. this hour, three u.s. soldiers are dead and another injured after two apache helicopters collided in alaska. the army says they were flying back to base ever a training flight. abortion bans, fail to pass south carolina and nepz statehouses. the failure could be a warning sign for republicans on abortion as we approach the 2024 election. also, multiple red flags missed. the pentagon under intense scrutiny for giving clearance to the 21 accused of leaking some of america's most closely held classified secrets. this is trump's own former vice president testifying before the federal grand jury investigating trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election. we are told that pence testified under oath more than five hours. trump tried but failed to stop pence from testifying in the special counsel jack smith's
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probe. pence also resisted the subpoena until a judge ordered him to comply. with more on pence's historic testimony the first vice president in modern times to testify about the president he served with chris wallace, cnn anchor and host of who is talking to chris wallace, who has an interesting interview we will talk about in a moment. you interviewed trump. you interviewed pence. what do you make of the fact that pence is going behind closed doors speak with investigators for five hours about january 6th? >> it's a big deal because pence can take the grand jurors directly into the oval office, into the discussions that the vice president had with the then-president about, one, the idea of false electorates and, more importantly, what was supposed to happen and did happen on january 6th, was that the vice president in his role as the president of the senate was going to preside over the counting of electoral votes and the certification of joe biden as the next president. donald trump wanted him to find some way to throw out those
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votes, delay the votes, allow the false electors votes to be counted. pence, of course, refused. you will have deteirect testimo from miles per hour about the conversation between him and donald trump. i think there are a couple of things that are important. one, it's the closest you are going to get to what was -- what donald trump said and, more importantly, what was in his mind, because they have to find criminal intent, and i think also it just shows exactly what was going on with donald trump. what exactly was his motive in trying to get mike pence to block the certification on january 6th in the house of representatives. >> he was also fairly reluctant witness, right? i mean, he is going there. he has already said publicly he doesn't think the president did anything illegal. so how is he managing this against his 2024 run against trump? >> that's tough. i mean, you are asking a legal
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question and a political question. in terms of the political question, pence has already got a tough situation because on the one hand he likes to talk about the trump-pence administration and take partial credit for all the of things that this he is during the four years that a lot of trump supporters like. on the other hand, if you are in court and he wasn't unwilling, as you say, it certainly to a lot of trump maga supporters is going to be seen as a betrayal. so that's a very tough road for mike pence to walk and it's one of the reasons that you see him in single digits in the polls right now. >> before we get to your interview with bernie sanders, i need to hear what you have to say about nikki haley elevating the debate over joe biden's age to a whole new level. here is what she said. >> if you vote for joe biden, you really are counting on a president harris, because the idea that he would make it until
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86 years old is not -- is not something that i think is likely. it's why i continued to say we need to have mental competency tests starting at 75. >> maybe not elevating it. what do you -- >> yeah, great point, kaitlin. >> well, it was said somewhat inartfully, even crudely, but the issue of biden's age is going to be an issue in the campaign. no question about it. and i have always thought that one way to get -- in effect, what you are hearing from nikki haley a two-fer. she is attacking biden's competence and vyiigor. she is also taking a shot at kamala harris and saying, you know, you don't want her to be a heartbeat away from the presidency if biden's approval numbers are low, harris' numbers are even lower. and i suspect you are going to see maybe done more artfully
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than haley did there a lot of talk during the next 12, 14 months where people are saying president harris with a question mark, because a lot of people don't like that prospect. >> they think that's an easier attack. you interviewed senator bernie sanders who once wanted to be the democratic nominee for the president himself. you asked him about biden's age. this is what he told you. >> why is it that not a single leading democrat is willing to contest that nomination in the primaries? >> you know, i can't speak for other people, but i suspect it has to do with the real fear of the growth of white wing extremism in this country. and that is the republican party over the last number of years, accelerated by trumpism, has become not a conservative party, but a right-wing extremist party. this is a party that, not all by any means, but many of the leaders don't believe in
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democracy any more. you have many republicans maintaining the lie that trump actually won the election. you have republicans working overtime to deny low-income people, people of color, young people the right to vote. people who defended the insurrection in january sixth. the first answer is that i think there is a great fear in this country about attacks on democracy. we want to maintain -- >> you are saying it's more fear of donald trump and maga than it is enthusiasm for joe biden? >> i think that's half of it. >> okay. that was part of his answer. you also talked about the age aspect of this as well. what did he say, chris? >> well, it's an interesting conversation. joe biden is 80. bernie sanders is 81. and i played for him the clip of nikki haley that you talked about earlier where she has questioned whether or not anybody over the age of 75 to have a mental competency test.
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he pushes back on that and he says, look, each one is an individual. but, you know, one of the -- it gets to be an interesting conversation because at one point i say, look, there are people i would submit like bernie sanders who is a young 81. i don't think anybody would question his energy or vigor. a lot of people question joe biden's energy, vigor and competency. and then there is the question, well, you could be okay at 80. what about 82 or 86, which is where biden would be at the end of a term. one of the questions i have is, it's become routine that presidential candidates share their medical records. why should it be off -- you know, we are allowed know their cholesterol count but why with particularly someone older, why not have them take a cognitive test? i don't know that i think it's so outrageous. >> interesting discussion. can't wait to watch your show. chris wallace, thank you so much. >> thank you, guys. >> watch chris' interview
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tonight with senator sanders and come den ledlegend carol burnet and tracking developments out of ukraine. 16 people have been killed, including children, after a deadly barrage of russian mile strikes happened across the country. nic robertson is live on the scene south of kyiv. of course, the first strike anywhere close to kyiv in a while, nick. as we noted earlier, where this has struck and where you are nowhere near the front lines. >> reporter: hundreds of miles from the front lines. as we were discussing in the last hour, we said the body count climbing. it climbed again. police updated here. 17 people dead, 18 injured. three of the dead are children. look over my shoulder here. you can see the firefighters clustered around the lower part of the building, the first floor of the building. they are still searching the rubble there. police say they are focus on
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that. the they are up towards the eighth floor. the smoke still come outs of there. i can tell you a tragic story about what happened overnight. we have spoken to a lady. her friends lived in one of the apartments up there on the eighth floor. the husband is in hospital. the wife managed to escape. but there is a 13-year-old and a 7-year-old daughter still missing. the lady telling us was in absolute floods of tears. still missing. the police say that's where they are going next. they say they are going to stop -- they won't stop searching until they have gone through everything and turned over all the debris here. 109 people registered living in this building. as i'm talking to you here, behind david there is a line of people just waiting here to find out what's happened to their loved ones, what happened to their friends. a lot of emergency workers here. the ukrainians, sadly, are getting all too experienced
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about clearing up after russian strikes like this. 21 of the 23 missiles russia fired into ukraine last night, this is what happens when just one gets through. and this is the fear we have been hearing from neighbors here. not knowing if this is going to happen again. a lady who lived in the building here told me she heard the woosh of the missiles, put the kids in the bathtub, a blanket over their heads and hoped they would see the daylight in the morning. to see the toll of those that don't get intercepted on the faces of the relatives waiting to hear about their loved ones as the death toll continues to grow. thank you. we want to talk about sudan now. u.s. citizens are among those arriving in saudi arabia after escaping the fighting between two rival military factions in sudan. so far, nearly 3,000 evacuees have arrived in the city.
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that's where we find larry live near the seaport where evacuees have been arriving. can you talk about how the evacuation process has been playing out? >> reporter: this is the main landing point for evacuees from port sudan on the red sea. and a lot of people are making the arduous journey, sometimes up to 30 hours, from khartoum through a war zone really to try to make it to port sudan and get on a ship run by the saudis to get across to here in jetta and from here they can go to other countries. the saudis ahave evacuated 100 people. they come from 80 nationalities. including american citizens. the state department guidance, the guidance from the embassy this khartoum that is evacuated is it's too dangerous to coordinate an evacuation of private u.s. citizens to many
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have taken that journey across the territory to port sudan and make it out here and many who are arriving here are upset, they feel abandoned by the u.s. government, the embassy in khartoum. here in jeddah, france, germany, the chinese, the indians, other nationalities, pakistan, arriving on the port behind me or the jeddah airport. for american citizens a great concern this morning. >> i am sure there will be more questions about that. thank you for your reporting. major flooding creating havoc in the midwest. the spring thaw from that record snow is causing the mississippi river to swell. experts say this year's slow rise can create some of the worst flooding in 20 years. the river has crested in several towns in minnesota and in parts of wisconsin as well as here in campbell. adrienne broaddus joins us from davenport.
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i grew up, whether it was my dad's family in iowa or our family in minnesota bracing for scenes like what you are standing in the middle of. >> reporter: poppy, you understand what people here are dealing with as the river slowly rises, those anxiety levels also go up. i am standing on a pedestrian bridge. we are in downtown davenport. behind me there is a band shell and it's partially submerged. i am walking across the street area here. to the right, the parking spaces are underwater. the folks that we heard from who live in this community say flooding is expected. >> that's part of the downtown of davenport. we flood flood all the time. i don't know. they won't put a flood wall up. thinking that everybody wants to look at the river. well, we are tired of looking at the river.
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it's enough. >> we have got 22 employees, very hard working, a lot of -- we opened. yeah, so, it's hard. hope we do but you never know. >> reporter: that was claudia anderson. because of the rising mississippi, there is a sign outside on her door that says "they are closed due to the mighty mississippi." right now what is she doing? taking steps to mitigate the damage. her sump pump is working. she is eliminating water flowing into her business because the sewers are also backed up and they are just ready for the river to crest. it's not expected to happen in this area until late sunday night or monday morning. according to the national weather service. >> it's striking to see. it was months ago we saw the drought pictures across the midwest, the mississippi way,
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and now looking at this. adrian, thanks for covering it. want to talk about politics now because house speaker kevin mccarthy believes house republicans have done their jobs. after narrowly passing a debt ceiling increase, what will happen if the democratic-controlled senate sends it back? we will have congressman jared moskowitz about that and more. that's next. plus, this. >> stood up and he assessed the situation and eventually saw that the driver passed out. >> that is a seventh grader in michigan who took charge when his bus driver passed out while driving. the bus was filled but 13-year-old dillon reeves thanks to smart thinking hit the brakes, steered the bus to a stop in the middle of the road.
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a vote after one of her republican colleagues abstained from voting. he had concerns about the ban being too early for women to know they are pregnant and political backlash over abortion bans like that one. in south carolina the state's five female senators banded together to filibuster on wednesday against a bill that would have banned nearly all abortions in the state. this is sandy sen who is a republican. >> abortion laws have always been each and every one of them about control. it's always about control. plain and simple. and in the senate, the males all have control. we, the women, have not asked for as the senator from orangeburg pointed out yesterday nor do we want your protection. we don't need it. we don't need it. >> she says the women have not asked for it. that comes after a few weeks ago florida governor ron desantis signed a law that bans most
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abortions in his state after six weeks. a move that polarized fellow conservatives. joining us is democratic congressman jared moskowitz. good morning, congressman. i wonder what you make of what's happening in nebraska, in south carolina, especially given your home state just recently had the governor sign that six-week abortion ban. >> yeah, i think twhat we are seeing, and we saw it last year in kansas, we are seeing republicans starting to push back on, you know, the extreme policy that is being pushed by moderate republicans across the country. it's going too far. the republican party used to be the party add to your lives, your bedroom and now they want to control every aspect of your life. women's abortion is a women's health issue. women in this country are starting to push back. we told people the dobbs decision was not about returning it back to the states that they wanted the dobbs decision because they wanted to get rid of abortion and now american is seeing that happen. obviously, i am encouraged to see republicans standing up and
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fighting against the extreme wings of their party. >> it was remarkable to see those represents in south carolina. speaking of governor desantis, you are from florida, he is also still in this feud with disney where disney has sued him saying he is retaliating against them. do you think that will hurt his chances at trying -- i mean, you worked with him. you know him. do you think it's going to hurt his consideration of running in 2024? >> you know, i don't know that a disney thing is going to be a national issue should the governor decide to get into the presidential race. i mean, aspects are pointing that direction, obviously. but again i go back to the fact that the republican party used to be a party of small government, limited government, it used to be a party of letting corporations have freedom and now it's all about using government, using the hands of government to bend corporations to their will. we just saw this with the whole, you know, bud light issue. i mean, republicans used to be the ones that would say, oh, you
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know, the left is woke or, you know, we have all thismeanwhile something they don't like and immediately they want to boycott. so it's interesting to watch the republican party completely remake itself, you know, in the years after trump for a faert that wants big government, a party that wants government in your life, a party that wants to tell who are using government to tell corporations what they can and cannot do. so we are in very interesting times as we see a new more extreme republican party start to go mainstream. >> what's happening where you are on capitol hill. we saw republicans barely got their proposal when it came to the debt ceiling pass. you said -- you joked, like a slogan for the hair club for men. it did get passed and republicans say the ball is in senator schumer's court and the wh white house's court. do you think it's time for the white house to start engaging with house speaker kevin mccarthy? >> my position from the beginning is i think the
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president of the united states and the speaker of the house should always be talking, even if the talks are not productive. the president wants to have breakfast with speak and tell him his speaker every time hasn't changed. so be it if that's necessary. i think they should always be talking. we passed a clean debt ceiling almost 80 sometimes since 1960. almost 50 times under republicans. three times under president trump. two times with republican control under president trump. and so all of a sudden there is a change of position. we have to pay our bills. it's funny. republicans want to lecture students they don't need student debt relief, students. pay their bills. meanwhile, republicans don't want to pay americans' credit card. and so, you know, listen, it's very dangerous what's happening up here. i am someone who is very concerned that we could go off the cliff because i know maga republicans the freedom caucus is the one unfortunately calling a lot of the shots.
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we see them continue to take their party up here hostage. they hold out their votes. they hold out their votes. the package more extreme which means it has no chance in the senate. and so, look, we will have to see what the senate does now. maybe this goes to conference. but, you know, look, there is gonna have to be some sort of negotiation so that we're not in the last final days because even getting that close to the debt ceiling will have catastrophic consequences to the economy. >> you said you are concerned. do you think we are closer to a default as a country today? >> i think because of how much power the freedom caucus has right now in the house, i think we are closer to defaulting. to be clear, there are people here in the chamber that want to see us default because they think that's politically advantageous, want to see us default because they think that's what their constituents want. you are talking to a democrat who believes we should cut back government pending. as families tighten their spending so should government. holding hostage the debt ceiling
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can be so catastrophic. you are talking make $10 trillion worth of damage. by the way, for my republican colleagues who talk about china, how we had a china select committee, get tougher on china, they are worried about president dollar, nothing could be a bigger gift to china than playing around with the debt ceiling. >> you disagree with republicans including part of that was blocking president biden's plan on student loan forgiveness. it seems clear you think the white house' position, we are not going to negotiate, is unsustainable? >> listen joe biden has shown his entire career it's why he is president that he is someone who will always negotiate. he'll always talk. so, listen, i have faith in joe biden and the speaker will sit down and talk. i think inn d.c. we should alwas be talking. we should never say we are not going to speak to folks across the aisle. i don't think that's a sustainable position. >> you say the white house's po decision -- because the president said i will talk about the budget but not attaching concessions to this.
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that is still his position, saying he is not going to negotiate. so you are saying that's unsustainable? >> yeah, i think that the president of the united states and the speaker should always be talking. >> we will see when they talk if and when. congressman moskowitz, thank you for being near this morning. >> thank you. and as the coronation of king charles iii quickly approaches, it's raising questions about the monarchy in the modern era. air that hill takes a closer look at the role of the royals today for this week's episode of the whole story. she is going to join us live next. a thing of the past... because only tempur-pedic uses ourur one-of-a-kind, incrediblyly adaptive tempur® material... to relieve pressure points and support your body, in a way nono other mattress can. molecule by molecule, and millimeter by millimimeter. all night. every night. now is the perfect time to experience the mattress ranked #1 in customer satisfaction by j.d. power, four years in a row. learn more at tempurpedic.com.
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of those closest to king charles and liev themselves. >> there is a great deal of similarity, i think, between the prince of wales at times raging against the machine and saying, i want to do this and i want to talk about that. by the way, i know what i'm talking about and i am not afraid to say it. who does that remind you of? massively of harry. >> in his book "spare" harry writes charles had been discouraged from hard work. he was advised the heir shouldn't try too far for fear of outshining the monarch. he rebelled. is charles a rebel? does anyone feel he is? >> i wouldn't call him a rebel. i think he has developed a sense of self-awareness and gone at things in a different way, but i wouldn't say that that would be -- i wouldn't call that rebelling. >> i think he'd like to see himself as a rebel and revolutionary. >> he is not a rebellion. certainly not revolutionary. i wish he was. >> charles had points he was
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raging against the machine in exactly the same way harry did. so many parallels. >> joining us now again cnn anchor and national correspondent erica hill. good morning. now, taking the throne a completely different kind of commonwealth, right? rationally, religiously, the demographics have changed. so there any one view of this moment? >> i think, you know, it's a great question, is there one view. the short answer is, no, because it is a much more diverse country both in the uk and within the commonwealth. and as we, you know, as i think we would probably see on this side of the atlantic as we learn from the fascinating discussions with scholars and journalists and those who used to work for the royal household, there is a different sensibility and there are more questions in general being raised about not only what is the role of the monarchy in 2023, a lot of those questions spurred by the death of queen elizabeth, a 70-year reign gone,
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what does that mean, and also an especially among the younger generations questions about how did we get here and how did this small country amass so much wealth and power for hundreds of years and are we taking a close look at that history and what it means and how are we addressing it. >> will that come out in a coronation? that's by definition pomp and circumstance. >> and that's part of what gave monarchs their power, pageantry and pomp and glitter and gold and jewels and made it feel mysterious and majestic and power sort of like "the wizard of oz," you didn't see what was going on behind the scenes. the coronation ceremony is a thousand years old. it's only been televised once before. what they are trying to do and they being the royal family is make it smaller, right, because the optics, the cost of living issues, and make it more inclusive, this is no longer just about the church england. there will be other faith
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leaders, a gospel choir. think back to the wedding of harry and meghan, that effort is there. i think it will be interesting to see how it all plays out and honestly how it's received next saturday. >> people are obsessed with whether harry will be there. >> he will be there. where he will be sitting, we don't know. meghan is back in california with their kids. archie, his birthday is also saturday. he turns 4. same day as the coronation. lots to celebrate for the family. they are doing it in different places. >> there you go. can't wait to see it. >> please watch. >> we will. >> we are pretty proud of it. a lot of interesting questions and discussion. "the reign begins: charles and camilla" on sunday at 8:00 p.m. eastern. the feds preferred measure of inflation just released. whether or not your interest rate is going to go up. we will show you the numbers right after this.
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it down. >> it shows that the feds' rate hike campaign is working. this pce price index, this is consumer inflation the fed likes to look at, grew 0.1% from february to march. that's good. that's a normal rate of inflation than some of the terrible numbers we have been seeing. when you look year over year, it's still too hot, up 4.2%. but that's down pretty dramatically. it was 4.6% last month, 5% the month -- so it's good to see that number coming down here. there is another number that came out, the employment cost index, a quarterfinal number. i know you covered this before. that shows that wages picked up in the quarter. so here is the split screen. wages are still rising. that's good, i mean, everybody wants to get a little more money in your paycheck. that's good for people but the fed is worried that is inflationary. on the one hand, the prices are cooling and that's showing the fed's medicine is working, but wages are still strong.
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good for people, but will the fed like that? not so sure. >> also the findings of that investigation into basically what caused what happened with silicon valley bank. what are we expecting? >> we get that at 11. we will also hear from the fdic later today. what happened to silicon valley? did the feds miss something or was this just a case of bad mismanagement, a bank that grew too quickly? it grew bigger in assets and compliance than risk manage:it's banking 101 they made big failures there. this is sort of the postmortem of that happened there. hopefully, it tells us whether the federal government is more aware now of similar problems that might be happening at other banks. we will be watching first republic shares. they are up this morning. they have lost half their value this week. there is a lot of pressure and behind-the-scenes maneuvering to figure out what happens at first republic. so watch that space. >> we will. thank you.
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why am i required to talk to it? >> he is the one being very diplomatic in the meetings, you know. well, that's good. it's great. we are all on the same pattern because at the end of the day, you know, freedom is what we all want. they come out like north korea say what? okay. all right. all right. hold my purse, mr. president. hold my purse. >> fox news is like a waffle house. yeah. it's relatively normal in the afternoon, but as soon as the sun goes down, there is a drunk lady named jeannine threatening to fight every mexican who comes in. you can't throw me out! i know the real president! >> the white house correspondents' dinner a uniquely washington tradition, the first dinner took place in 1921, only had 50 people. this year it's going to be star-studded. it's going to have a guest list over # 500 people. it's a rare chance for the press corps to let its hair down and socialize with wards brokers and
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celebrities, sometimes gets criticized for that. 16 presidents and vice presidents have attended the dinner. one who did not, donald trump. never made an appearance during his presidency. instead sent his press secretary. typically a comedian roasts the commander-in-chief and this year's roster is joining us now, stand-up comedian and correspondent of the daily show show roy wood jr. >> good to see you. >> it's great to meet you. >> this is the weirdest gig, right? like the people in the room aren't your audience and how do you practice? >> you have to still remember that regular people are also watching this. that room represents like the 1% of the power and how decisions are made in the country. but the people affected by the decisions are watching the program, too. so i think there is a way to honor both audiences, but ultimately at the end of the day it's a gig and that's what i
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have to tell myself while i sit and comb through these jokes at 1:00 in the morning in new york. but it's a good time. and i think it's an honor to be able to do it because when you really look at the way the power dynamics are set up in the country, very few citizens get an opportunity to have a microphone in front of everybody. everybody who has something that needs to be heard. the important part is you want to make it funny. i don't think i need to get up there and be just right. like there is a humor to righteousness balance you have to find within what you are doing. so that's the part you can't do in the comedy club. you can't go, oh, joke, joke, joke, oh, joe biden, kamala, oh, re-election, oh, so, did you know that journalists are getting locked up abroad? it's like this is just -- >> which is the line up have to . >> the line you have to walk, half political event. how do you make a joke in the age when there is no shame? ? well, i think you still make the joke. there's still a punch line.
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the shame part is about whether or not the joke can influence change. i don't think the correspondents dinner -- we would have to check and do the research but i don't know if any politician got hit with a joke and like, you know what, let me go ahead and reconsider my whole platform. >> donald trump? >> he said -- let me start a platform. >> yeah. >> right. >> but like to just -- there's nothing i can do. do you think the ron desantis jokes i got in the clip for tomorrow, you think that ron desantis, you know what, man, you're right, put the black history back in them books. >> a glimmer of where this is going, i'm hearing. >> we would hope. i saw you had hope in your eye. >> it was brief, and then the flame went out. >> he's fighting mickey mouse, you can't change that person's mind with a joke. it's possible. i'm raising my voice. >> i love it. morning energy. >> i love it. we love energy. >> all jokes, but i love your story, too, i want our viewers to get to know you a little bit
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before they see you up there, the fact that, you know, you're born here in new york but grew up in alabama. >> born in new york, grew up in birmingham. my father was a radio journalist but he deliberately embedded himself in any black conflicts going on, black platoons in vietnam. he was in zimbabwe now. and then i got to college. stuart scott was my north star for journalism, i wanted to be funny and talk about sports. got down to college, got in trouble, apparently you have to pay for clothes when you go to the mall. you do not just get to leave with them. you have to give them money. i tiddid not. that's what got me into stand-up. >> the year that fam university let you -- well, let you, gave you a year off to think about things. >> suspension is the word. >> that's when you started? >> yeah, yeah. >> this comedy, right? >> to the credit of florida a&m
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university they let me come back and get the journalism degree. they gave me a double-edged sword rktsd i'm a comic, a journalist, and i was doing radio. the irony of it now, as much as i didn't want to be like my father topically speaking that's what i do now is talk about the world issues and just a little funny. >> it's poetic, who are your targets for tomorrow night? >> see, y'all -- i know what you're trying to ask me, and i'm trying to answer it without answering. >> alabama with that person. >> talk about what happened this week. i've got to talk about everything this week. let me just say it. >> did something happen this week? >> there was a lot of stuff that happened this week. many things that happened this week, and those things have to be discussed in a fair way, in a very fair way. >> kevin mccarthy, i think, is bracing for that, don't worry. >> trust me, i'm not going to lose my job. i'm not trying to get in trouble. okay, that's the most important part is leave employed.
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>> that's your fwgoal, leave employed. >> that's the goal. >> we know you've been preparing really hard for this, and can't wait. to see what those jokes will be, president biden is also going to be there. tune in, tomorrow night, 8:00 p.m., cnn will be covering the white house correspondents dinner live here. >> you are a joy, my friend. that means you can't make fun of me tomorrow night. 55 million people -- >> she's buttering him up. >> racing for really severe weather, what you can expect in the hours ahead. get the royal treatment. join the m millions playing royal match today. download now. my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis... the burning, itching.
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for what they hoped would only be days. for two veterinarians who specialized in exotic animal rescue the situation led them to a new mission, caring for these beloved but abandoned pets. this week cnn heroes salutes ukraine's vet crew, leonid and valentina. ander cooper shares the story. >> in ukraine, three, four days, a lot of people, just clothes, animals in apartments, in houses, and think that everything will be fine. >> reporter: for more than a year now they've been rescuing and caring for dogs and cats by the hundreds in ukraine. despite the danger they put their lives at risk, even driving to the front lines to vaccinate and feed animals. >> russian army a lot of times shooting our car, and we have a lot of holes. >> each animal for us is it's
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