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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com ♪ republican pushback, strict abortion bans fail in south carolina and nebraska because conservative lawmakers wouldn't fall in line. are some republicans beginning to worry that these types of bans might hurt them in 2024? >> river sizing. the midwest bracing for major flooding. melting winter snow pushing the mississippi river beyond its banks. now warnings of the worst flooding in decades in some areas. plus at least 25 people are dead after large-scale missile attacks across ukraine. the deadliest strikes in nearly
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two months. officials say they expect the death toll to climb. we're following these major developing stories and many more all coming in right here to "cnn news central." ♪ two deep red states have just experienced what could be an abortion ban backlash, and it's coming from conservatives. republican decenters in nebraska and south carolina blocked laws that would ban almost all abortions. south carolina, five female state senators filibustered against the bill. that led to its rejection. earlier, one of those senators told boris about the fight for a middle ground. >> i do not think we have a right to abortion, but we may not have a right, but it is the reality. and i've always said it needs to
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be legal, safe, and rare, really rare. but there's got to be some gray area because life is not simply black and white. i recognize that, and over 70% of south carolina recognizes that. most of us feel in our state there should be restrictions. so, it's just reaching happy middle or at least a general consensus among the bodies. and the south carolina house will not accept our stance, the senate. >> in nebraska a six-week abortion ban failed there by a single vote after one republican, again, abstained. check out the relief seen afterwards from those who opposed the ban. the footage tweeted out by democratic state senators.
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dianne gallagher has been covering this for us. dianne, walk us this. >> for a lot of people, this is quite astonishing. these two conservative states both failing to pass these severe abortion restrictions. and it's just by a one-vote margin, both in nebraska and in south carolina, where a total ban on abortion from the moment of conception was extremely limited exceptions for rape and incest. that was blocked by the republican majority state senate after, again, the only five women in the senate, three of whom are republicans, led a filibuster. it is the third time, though, that they have done this in the state senate in south carolina since the dobbs ruling last summer. it essentially kills these bills that offer these full abortion bans. and in their filibuster
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speeches, they talked impassioned about biology and backlash and the concept of control. >> once a woman became pregnant for any reason, she would now become property of the state of south carolina if the human life to protection act were to come into law. >> look, in nebraska, it was a ban on abortion at about six weeks, often before a person knows that they are pregnant. and it was when two senators abstained the from a vote to break the filibuster. jim, one of those senators was actually a cosponsor of the bill, an 80-year-old senator. he said he basically did more research. he offered an amendment that would make it 12 weeks as the limit. that never got a vote. in his speech, he warned of backlash, something that, look, has been felt by republicans nationally. conservatives once championed abortions as sort of a campaign cornerstone. but, look, shifting public
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opinion coupled with the supreme court making these outright bans a possibility with the dobbs ruling has challenged these hardline positions. look, their supporters have said, it's time for you to sort of, you know, say what you're doing. you can do what you've always said, while others agree it has just gone too far according to polling. >> let's be frank, six weeks was considered fairly extreme in this country. many women don't know they're pregnant at six weeks. south carolina talks about banning at conception. prior to dobbs, i don't know how many folks would have thought that was a realistic proposal, but here we are. jim, we are bracing for serious flooding in the midwest. the winter's heavy snows have melted. they are pushing the upper mississippi river beyond its banks, and experts are warning that the snow melt could cause some of the worst flooding we've seen in 20 years. in iowa, flood waters have already swallowed much of the river front area. here is the view from the ground just a short time ago. so far the flood waters are not
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deep, but they are widespread. and the threat along the river, it's going to linger for weeks. another danger today, tornados. let's turn to chad myers, who's following all of this from our weather center. we're looking at two threats, different parts of the country here. what are you tracking? >> right now i'm tracking the tornados that are likely on the ground just a few minutes ago near hamilton, texas. we have our first two watches of the day. severe thunderstorm watch for dallas and a tornado watch south of there, including waco. this storm right here that you see with little pink boxes, which means tornado warnings, was nothing to 52,000 feet tall in 25 minutes. that's how explosive these storms are going to be today. and we're going to have hail and we're going to have large hail. so, even though you're under a tornado watch, waco, you're also going to be looking at that hail, just depending on where you are in the cycle of the storm. hail that looked like this on wednesday. that's a guy's hand. he's sitting in the passenger side of a car. here's where we are right now. storms are beginning to fire
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south of dallas, maybe even just west of dallas as well. later it begins to the move to the east, and they're still rotating. by later tonight, they begin to line up and storms fight each other and they don't want to rotate anymore. they just want to make a wind gust. so, as we line these up, the wind gust threat goes up. the tornado threat goes down. but for right now we are certainly in that tornado threat. river flooding up here to the north, as you said. the entire mississippi from really almost davenport all the way up to o-clair and even towards st. paul out of its banks in many spots. doesn't mean it's deep in many spots, but certainly wide, how wide that mississippi can get, as you see miles and miles wide in that floodplain. >> and damaging, very damaging. all right. chad, we know you'll keep an eye on this for us. boris? we're following a deadly overnight russian missile attack in ukraine that struck various targets across the country. as we've seen time and again in this conflict, civilians ultimately paid the price. the highest casualties were here
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in the central city of you mon. a missile destroyed a residential building killing at least 23 people. and that includes four children. cnn's nic robertson is on the scene. nic, this is thought to be the highest number of civilian casualties killed in a missile strike in some months. what are you seeing there now? >> reporter: yeah, the rescue recovery work is still ongoing late in tonight. the workers have been at it about 18 hours now. i'm going to step out of the way. what we're seeing right up there, the firefighters now on the upper floors. earlier on today, they were pulling bodies out of the lower floors, carrying them away. now they're trying to secure -- the one firefighter there is at the top of the lift shaft. we were up there looking down before. they need to secure any loose debris there before they can get down to that larger area of
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debris field where the floors have concaved in the apartments. we know from talking to neighbors of at least two young girls who may be inside that debris. one of them is 13 years old. one of them is 7 years old. their mother, we understand, escaped more or less unharmed. their father is in hospital. but the neighbors here now just wondering what happened to the two young girls. and the firefighters, they're looking for them. they're looking for other people. more than half of those 46 apartments were destroyed. 109 people are registered living there. we now know a toll of dead. we now know of numbers injured, 18 injured from the building. but so many people are still unaccounted for. there are police here doing dna tests, helping relatives try to find out more about their loved ones. there are police psychologists here helping people who are going through the trauma of having lost family members. there are care workers here
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handing out clothes to families. there are builders going in some of the other apartments, repairing broken windows, repairing door frames, making it safe for people to get back into the other apartment. but the focus and the effort is going to go through the night here, we're told, to try to recover all the bodies of those missing and bring some kind of so solace that this is the most devastating single missile strike since january this year. >> a tragic scene there, and another example of russia deliberately, apparently, attacking civilian targets. nic robertson, thank you so much. this is happening as ukraine's defense minister says that preparations for their long-awaited counteroffensive are, quote, coming to an end. cnn's nick paton walsh is on the front lines alongside soldiers facing daily conflict with russia. >> reporter: spring is here. after winter's frozen horror. and the buzz and sting of
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ukraine's looming counteroffensive is growing. aiming at russian positions within 30 seconds, the ukrainian unit has moved away. it may be a precise operation, but the russian response is not. slamming into the nearby town, edging closer to us, impossible to tell what the russians are trying to hit. but another example of the intense bombardment, their bid to stop the counteroffensive from starting. it is ordinary civilians caught in the rising dust behind us who bear the brunt of russia's frustrated rage. along and around the brutalized towns where ukraine says it may launch its attack, there are
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more signs it is underway lurking in the foliage than ukraine has given publicly. that's because ukraine has said nothing at all about when, where, or how it will attack. but among machine gunfire in the nearby trenches are drone operators hidden in the rubble. the detailed, intimate picture they have of their enemy just two fields away, is startling. watching and trying to kill each other every hour. they've noticed the russians pulling back. [ speaking non-english ] [ speaking non-english ]
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>> reporter: another drone team has seen the russians also left defended ruins in their ranks. [ speaking non-english ] >> reporter: it won't be long until that chaos meets a decisive test in this flat, open, and perilous space. along those front lines, you can get a general sense of anticipation, of movement, frankly building. and the feeling that maybe the opening stage, the prelude to this counteroffensive may be underway, which is what makes the comments today quite so intriguing. yes, he said preparations are coming to an end. but he said, in the global
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sense, we are already in a high percentage mode. the next question is up to the general military staff. as soon as it's god's will, the weather, and the commander's decision, we will do it. ukraine has been very keen to say nothing about when or where or how this offensive may begin, but it feels we're inching towards it. it's important for kyiv to get some sort of strategic victory before another likely long, hard winter and the possibility, too, that its western backers may get into electoral economic trouble again and decide they don't want to be so refusive in their support. it could be hours, days, weeks at the furthest away. boris. >> a huge moment for the ukrainian forces. nick paton walsh in zaporizhzhia, ukraine. thank you so much. ahead on "cnn news central." what did mike pence, the former vice president, share during five hours of testimony? that's how long he spent before a grand jury investigating
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get zero down special financing with the kay jewelers credit card. really for the history books, that's how long mike pence testified to a grand jury yesterday. that testimony comes after a judge said the former vice president had to answer questions under oath about conversations he had with then-president trump on the 2020 election aftermath as well as attempts to overturn it. the unprecedented moment, a former vp in the witness chair
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testifying about a president. let's speak to cnn's evan perez and prosecutor shan wu. evan, first we don't know what he said inside that room, but five hours is quite some time to be answering these questions. how is the pence team describing this, if at all? and how is the trump team receiving this? >> well, for the pence team, they're not even acknowledging that he went in. but you will hear from them that they believe, you know, he has nothing to hide. because this testimony is behind closed doors, you know, once the former vice president is in there, he can answer however he wants. i mean, if he wants to say, raise objections and maybe consult his lawyer, he can do that. but if you talk to people around the former president, they distrust what the former vice president was doing in there. they believe that based on what they've seen from his former aides, right, greg jacob and
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marc short, who were extremely helpful to the january 6th committee, they believe that there's reason to distrust that behind closed doors, mike pence was a lot more helpful to prosecutors simply because, again, they don't know. >> well, he's also speaking under oath, right? he's got a pretty big incentive to speak truth because otherwise he would face legal consequences. >> right. exactly. >> we've seen people go to jail for that. shan wu, we don't know, like what was said inside there. that said, this is a high-level witness, someone who had direct conversations with the former president in the midst of decisions that are being investigated by special counsel. significance of his testimony, one, but also what does it tell you about timing as to how far along the investigation is? >> he certainly is a significant witness. he's there on the day in question. his title and physical position would make him a very good witness. my take on this is in some ways a return more to normalcy for a
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criminal investigation. these attempts to completely wall off witnesses just by their title is failing and keeps failing in the courts. and even to completely wall them off just by topic without getting to the actual questioning, that's failing too. that's the way it more normally works, which is someone responds to subpoena. and then depending on the question and topic, they may raise an objection. and as everyone is pointing out, in the grand jury they don't have their lawyer there. but they're free to run outside and consult with them. >> that's a good point. this argument, the former president has used executive privilege, privileged communications, more times than i can count to try to block testimony. but you're making the point that in effect that has failed and that the courts are winning out on this issue demanding testimony where needed. >> yeah. and really it's the prosecutor and special prosecutor in particular is winning on this point. that doesn't mean they get a slam dunk case, but it means
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they proceed as they should. they always build things question by question, topic by topic. at least they're getting to that stage now. >> fair enough. >> in term of timing, middle? end? i don't know. >> fair enough. make it safe, spread your bets. evan, you mentioned before, i mean, pence is a significant witness. you mentioned others, such as marc short, who has testified. who else? do we have a sense of who else? >> the fact the vice president went in to do this testimony is a huge deal, but looming perhaps more large in this investigation is mark meadows. the former vice president obviously was privy to some very important conversations, including on january 6th from the former president, as he was trying to pressure him to try to not certify the election. but mark meadows was in a lot more of these conversations, including not only the pressure campaign of the state. but meadows himself was doing things on his own. and that's why he has, perhaps, i think everyone believes, some criminal exposure himself.
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and that raises the odds for him to, you know, certainly the pressure for him to make sure he is very helpful as much as he can to the prosecutors. so, if you're the prosecutors, mark meadows is perhaps even more important from this investigation. and i'll venture a guess. i think -- you know, i think the -- i think the investigation is a lot further along, a lot closer to the end than the middle. >> okay. i'm just writing that down. you say middle to late, he says a lot closer to the end. we'll take the cash bets later. thanks so much to both of you. boris? still to come, the crisis in sudan getting worse, as new images reveal just how dangerous it is to stay or leave. and the army admitting some of its aviators may have to serve three extra years because of an error. that story is next. a thing of the past... by relieving preressure points and supporting your body in a way no other mattress can. experienence the mattress rankd #1 in customer satisfaction by j.d. power, four years in a row.
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♪ a dire situation in sudan seems to be worsening by the hour. it is growing increasingly dangerous to stay and to leave the country. new video out today showing the bloody aftermath after desperate looters raided one town there. and then there is this. a turkish evacuation plane shot at while trying to land in sudan. you can actually see bullet holes there in the aircraft. and we're also learning new details about american
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evacuations. officials say the marines at the u.s. embassy in khartoum destroyed classified materials during that evacuation. we have cnn's larry my doe woe who is monitoring this war in sudan. larry, the two factions have extended a ceasefire. how are things going so far? >> reporter: not going well. this is the fifth of the sixth time that the two have agreed to a ceasefire and then have violated almost instantly. and each side is blaming the other for firing first. so, that's the situation that this ceasefire has fallen through. and that is also why you see this mass exodus out of sudan. so many tourists trying to leave. and one of the mainlanding forces is here in saudi arabia. the saudis have evacuated -- many of them from other countries. only about 100 of them were saudis. they came from 80 nationalities
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including the u.s., uk, ken ya, and countries all over the world. saudis are a big diplomatic player in sudan. they've been a big diplomatic player is helping people escape the violence and find their way to the rest of the world. the uk will be ending operations evacuating out of sudan. the uk has called it the largest and longest evacuation effort of any western nation, which obviously raises questions about what has america done to private citizens in sudan? the state department says its received about 5,000 people who registered asking for assistance, and still committed to finding a way for them out of sudan. listen. >> we're not going to get into operational specifics, given security considerations, but i will reiterate that this is a very fluid and dynamic situation. we cannot guarantee traveller safety, nor can we guarantee how long these departure options will be available.
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>> reporter: the u.s. initially said it was too dangerous to coordinate the evacuation of private citizens. but now it is working with them to find some land route to get them to safety out of sudan, brianna. >> without guarantees, as we hear. larry, thank you for the very latest there on the evacuations. boris? new today, growing outrage in the u.s. army. officials say that an error could mean that dozens of pilots might have three additional years of service, even as some of them were planning on starting their lives as civilians. pentagon correspondent oren liebermann joins us live. oren, this is quite the glitch. >> it is. and it stems from a misunderstanding about how you count service time for army pilots. does it count concurrently with a different kind of service time or is it separate and afterwards? that's where the three-year comes from. the army discovered this problem when several army pilots commissioned in 2015 were getting ready to get out and
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filing paperwork to do so, only for the army to say, you have three more years. the army did an audit and found they had some 600 army pilots who might have this issue. this focuses around something known as the brand of choice active duty service obligation. it gives you a leg up on what you want to do. and for several army pilots, that means you have to serve three more years. the question, do you count that three years separately and after, or do you count it concurrently with your time? the army pilots who spoke with cnn said they understood it as serving concurrently. senior army officers are looking at this on a case-by-case basis. they're acknowledging the error. and they say some of it is where they essentially put the starting date. in terms of the human resources comes in. and that's where some of this error comes from. you can imagine this has real world consequences. some of these army pilots had plans after they thought they were getting out, only to find out the army expects them to be
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in for several more years. and anger about this. several dozen of these army pilots have written a letter to congress saying they were misled by the army. so, we will see where this goes. but you can see how much of a difference it would make if you suddenly find out that the army is telling you you have years more to serve. >> we'll see how lawmakers respond to that letter. oren liebermann from the pentagon, thank you so much. jim, over to you. this just in to cnn. justice samuel e lito says that he has a good idea who leaked the abortion draft report. not clear what he's basing that on. we do have more on an interview he gave recently coming up. an all-star menu of delicious subs. there's the philly, the monster, the boss. if i hadn't seen it in person, i wouldn't have believedt.
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♪ this just in to cnn, supreme court justice samuel alito has claimed in an interview that he has, quote, a pretty good idea of who leaked the draft of the opinion that ended roe v. wade last year. we should note, as he said that, he also said that that is different from the level of proof that is needed to name someone, someone. so, he doesn't have prosecutable proof here. in doing so, he's directing attention at the liberal side of the court. he claims this was an effort to prevent the dobbs draft from becoming the decision of the court. >> this is an extensive,
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wide-ranging interview that justice alito did with "the wall street journal" a couple weeks ago. he goes into the issue of the leak. he talked about how the leak itself created an atmosphere of suspicion and distrust that the court is just now getting over. i want to read a brief part of this, because like you said, he's really pouring water on the idea that this was leaked by sbun to lock in the 5-4 vote. he's pointing the fingers that maybe this was done by somebody trying to make the vote change. he said it this way. he said, that idea is infuriating to me. look, this made us targets of assassination. would i do that to myself? would the five of us done that to ourselves? it's quite implausible. so, really lashing out at this idea that a conservative member or someone affiliated might have leaked this draft. >> you're referring to the sort of cocktail party conversation here as to what is the most likely theory. was it a liberal justice who
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wanted to expose this and therefore turn it the other way? or was it a conservative justice who wanted to expose this so there wasn't an effort to break a majority? but here's the thing. the chief justice, they investigated this and concluded they didn't have the evidence to really determinatively say who this is. now you have a sitting justice saying, well, i -- i know, but i can't really say. >> right. and the report itself put it this way, saying that, you know, there wasn't enough evidence to point to any particular person. but justice alito is saying, well, i have a pretty good idea. so, you're right. that's a pretty extraordinary step for a sitting justice to say, especially when the actual conclusion was that they could not say who this leaker was. in addition, this interview is really incredible. it also talks about his kritisms of the court. he really says that he's never seen anything like it. he says this concerted attack on the court and on individual justices is new during my
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lifetime. all the storys that have come out even in recent days about gifts justice clarence thomas has accepted or questionable property says from justice gorsuch. justice alito seemed to lash out in this wide-ranging interview. >> no one wants to down play the real and physical public threats that have been directed at members of the court as well. we'll be looking at them more. jessica schneider, thanks so much. boris? up next, new developments in the trial of bryan kohberger. he's the criminology major accused of murdering four college students in idaho. we'll be right back.
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♪ final preparations are underway in london, with just one week to go until the coronation of king charles. this will be only the second ever televised coronation of a british monarch. the first, of course, was queen elizabeth 70 years ago. and it has many people asking what this moment and this man will mean for this modern world. this week on "the whole story," cnn's erica hill travels to london, in search of those answers, meeting with leading british scholars, journalists, and some of those closest to the king himself. here's a preview. >> we talk about camilla and her pr, it was a slow, steady, playing the long game, from public enemy number one to where she is now, soon to be queen, crowned in westminster abby.
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she's got a consciousness about her public image. >> a lot is going on. >> i think she's also conscious, perhaps, of her husband's ego or indeed the ego of the institution of royalty to which he belongs. charles was very jealous of diana's popularity. >> i think the reason camilla fits in better with him than diana did is because she doesn't upstage him. >> joining us now is cnn anchor and national correspondent, erica hill. this is fascinating, erica. the last coronation, of course, i mean, i hardly remember it. well, it was 70 years ago, right? what's different this time >> that's because you and i weren't born yet, sister. what will be different is that it's going to be much smaller. you've likely heard this. more than 8,000 invitations went out for the queen's coronation in the '50s. we're talking about 2,000 here.
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there's also an effort to make the service shorter, only about an hour as opposed to three hours, and king charles want thes it to be more inclusive, a little more interest in the music. they're trying to make it more representative of what the united kingdom is today, and also keep in mind the cost of living issues that are really top of mind right now. >> they have to modernize it, right? there's also these questions about why is there a monarchy anymore, and that's something that he has to confront. >> absolutely, and that is -- it's almost -- i almost got the sense in talking to people while i was there, not just the experts but also all the folks we talked to on the streets that the death of the queen almost felt like a reset and a reevaluation of what does it mean to have a monarch? what is the job of the king? what is the job of the royal family, and what does a monarchy, what does a royal family really do in 2023, and how much of that work, if you will, is going to be informed by
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the history and what led to the british empire, which at one point was the largest, most powerful in the world. but when you're talking about an empire that involves more than 70 countries and territories and hundreds of millions of people referred to as subjects, there's also a lot of painful history there, and that is really important, especially for the younger generation in the uk. they want that addressed, and so they want to talk more about it. they want a more fulsome discussion, and that's going to inform, i think, a lot of where things go in the coming years. >> yeah, i think they ignore that at their peril, you know, so it's really interesting to see how he's going to handle that. erica, thank you so much. really looking forward to seeing this. be sure to tune in. the reign begins, charlgs and camilla, one whole story airing this sunday at 8:00 p.m. eastern and the coronation of king charles iii will also be televised with all of its pomp and pageantry here on cnn. >> we'll not miss that.
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now to some of the top stories we're following this hour, the republican-controlled north carolina supreme court has ruled that state courts have no power in ruling over the drawing of congressional maps. the ruling is a major loss for voting rights groups that had challenged partisan gerrymandering in the state after the 2020 census. also, one of the surviving roommates in a stabbing attack that left four university of idaho students dead has agreed to speak to the suspect's attorneys. in a court filing, an attorney for bethany funke agreed to have her interview with brianyan kohb kohberger's defense team in her hometown of reno, nevada. federal reserve chairman jerome powell held a video chat earlier this year with with someone he thought was ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy, except it wasn't. no sensitive or confidential information was divulged.
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they acknowledged the carolip w posted online in january but had been edited. "the new york times" is reporting that the pranksters were russian supporters of president vladimir putin. jim. >> amazing that happens. russia's invasion of ukraine triggered a flood of refugees. many were pet owners who had to leave their dogs and cats behind for what they hoped would be only a matter of days, for two veterinarians who specialized in exotic animal rescue, the situation led to a new mission. anderson cooper shares their story. >> all this situation in ukraine will be three, four days. so a lot of people just close animals in apartments, in houses, and think that everything will be fine. >> reporter: for more than a year now, the stoyanovs have been rescuing and caring for dogs and cats by the hundreds in ukraine. despite the danger, they put their lives at risk even driving
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to the front lines to vaccinate and feed animals. >> russian families a lot of times shooting our car, and we have a lot of hope. >> each animals for us, it's like our family. >> the vet crews work earn them support for millions on social media. they say it's all those encouraging messages that keep them going. >> a lot of people write us, guys, hold on. you are heroes. it's huge, huge support and we are very grateful. >> to get the full story on ukraine's veterinarian crew and to nominate your own hero, please go to cnnheroes.com. so many great stories there. and we'll be right back. >> announcncer: "cnn heroes" is brought to you by subaru, love, it's what makes subaru subaru.
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it has been nearly 12 years since the world was notified of the death of osama bin laden, and we now actually have some brand new images from inside the white house during that infamous raid. just take a look at some of the moments captured in these new photos that you see here. you see president obama there, of course, that one earlier you saw secretary of state hillary clinton, and the chairman of the joint chiefs, mike mullen there with the vice president at the time. >> quite a night, and it was almost 12 years ago exactly to the day because it was the day after the white house correspondents' dinner, and i remember being there that night and just how calm everybody was, but lots of folks were

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