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home game seven. it's against the kings. becoming the first person in nba history to score 50 points in game seven. portland superstar damon lillard saying, steph, you filthy animal. packing a good team in a tough building. remember, the warriors lost 30 of the 41 away games this season. curry put the team on his back when it mattered most. warriors win 121-100. the goat spoke afterwards. of. >> you defy the odds by still playing at this high enviof a l and everybody wants to see you fail. that's kind of the nature of, you know, where we're at right now. so, you know, we love them. we still prove a lot of people wrong. >> so who can stop steph curry? >> hopefully we never find out. >> it's not cocky. that is confidence. showing up in epic proportions.
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curry and lebron. they've gone three out of four times in play-off series. it's gone to curry for the win. all have been in the finals when lebron was in cleveland. caitlyn and poppy, he is master of the mind he was seen smiling on the free-throw line during this game. he said attitude can manifest a lot of things. i want to live in the moment. he sure did that. the. >> yeah. it is when the chips are down, he said it's best. >> amazing. consider. i can't wait to watch later this week. >> "cnn this morning" continues right now. >> what is now the second biggest bank failure in u.s. history. the most of first republic bank is being bought by j.p. morgan chase. >> this is a bit of a seismic moment. these banks are not well regulated. they admitted it themselves. >> investigators continue this manhunt. they've been searching for him
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since he was able to flee the scene. they do believe this man is armed and dangerous. >> this $80,000 is a real good motivator to have somebody turn him in. >> we're asking everyone for your help so we can bring this monster to justice. >> a powerful tornado touching down in virginia beach. one of several damaging storms this weekend. the national weather service reported winds of 130 miles per hour. >> i could not believe when i walked over here and saw this damage. i have never seen anything like this. >> the u.s. is overseeing 1,000 americans stuck in the conflict zone. >> there is fighting in the country entering the third week. >> all my family is there. >> you're scared for them? >> yeah. >> he got there first. >> we should be inspired by the events in france. they rioted when the retirement age went up two years to 64.
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meanwhile, in america, we have an 80-year-old man begging us for four more years of work. >> i've had a few laughs, a few jokes. but at the end of the day, washington won't change me. i'll change washington. >>. >> harry was so great on red carpet at the white house correspondent's dinner. >> it was my first. first time. there. >> what did you think? >> nervous. >> us on the red carpet. >> i had a total ball. i never been with so many people in my life that ballroom 2500 people. >> 2600 people. crazy. >> it was a ball. i had a lot of fun. at 12:30 p.m., i was like i have to go to bed. >> 12:30 a.m. >> a.m. >> you said 12:30 p.m. >> that picture is me and you before 12:30 a.m. i had to go to bed. i had a ball thanks in part of you, the queen of d.c. >> we had more of president biden's jokes. you saw him. he laughed very hard at that joke about how he is spending
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four more years in office. it's about what we're seeing in france. and he joked about his own age. >> quite a moment for that. we'll have more on the dinner later on. this morning we want to start with big headlines that came out this ekdweekend. the man accused of killing five neighbors is still on the run. police say they're on a trail. they're trying to find him. so far, it has run cold. there is an $80,000 reward being offered to help track down 38-year-old francisco orepesa. the shooting happened in cleveland, texas. it's an hour north of houston. according to the sheriff's office, he was drinking and shooting a rifle in his yard when his neighbors asked him to sleep because a baby was trying to sleep. the suspect then went to the neighbor's house where he shot the victims. >> everybody that was shot was shot from the neck up, almost execution style. basically in the head. >> five people were killed including a 9-year-old. the you see had him right there
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9-year-old daniel guzman and his mother. the child's father called 911 five times to report the suspect shooting his gun. >> translator: that was my 9-year-old son and my wife, too. and two people who died protecting my 2 1/2-year-old daughter. my 1 1/2-month-old son was protected with a lot of clothes so the killer wouldn't kill him too. >> wow. the sheriff said the team got there as fast as they could but said because the force is small and covers the county at large, the whole thing, officers did not get there fast enough. our chief law enforcement and intelligence reporter is us with. so, so tragic. >> it's extraordinarily sad. it's a sign of what we're seeing
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these days. >> i think it really is. also the fact that they cannot find this guy. they don't even know if he's in the country. >> well, he's from mexico. he has contacts in mexico. that could have led to mexico. you know, he did this terrible act and then fled into the woods near his home. they found clothes. he's thinking there is going to be tracking dogs and bloodhounds. they found his phone. he's anticipating that law enforcement will be looking for a signal. so this is someone who has some skills and, you know, they have a challenge. >> if you think back to the olympic park bomber that fled into the forest, eric robert rudolph, he hid there for years
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undetected as a fugitive being sought for by hundreds, sometimes thousands of law enforcement people. but, he planned every bombing carefully. he planned his escape carefully. this is a spontaneous incident out of anger and spon taken yuts esc -- spontaneous escape. given resources and background and given you have the fbi involved, you have the u.s. marshals, you have the sheriff, money on the street, you have informants from the criminal world. the you have an $80,000 reward for the public. the complicating factor is if he made it into mexico. not a game ender, complicated. >> you have zero leads. what do you do, john? >> you do one of two things. one, you could increase the reward. but if you have $80,000 and you have zero leads, it's probably not about the money. it's about increasing community
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engagement. >> to get people to talk? >> i mean, this is -- if there was any case ever that should generate community engagement, even in a community where people might be reluctant to talk to the police, this should be the deal breaker there. >> yeah. just so concerning as we're seeing this bigger pattern of this snap aggression. we'll have more on that, i know, to come. keep us updated on how this investigation progresses. >> we'll do. breaking this morning, first republic bank the second largest bank failure. >> this is really notable. regulators seized it and struck a rescue deal with j.p. morgan chase. to buy most of the bank's assets. j.p. morgan chase did not assume the corporate debt or the stock. the ceo said, quote, our government invited us and others to step up and we did. first republic is now the third major bank to fail since march as america's banking crisis has flared up again. we're keeping a close eye on wall street right now to see how
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stocks react in the market and they do open soon. our cnn business xpont kpont is live outside a first republic bank in new york city. they're going to open this morning, operating as j.p. morgan. people have access to this. this is coming after first republic bank got that $30 billion life line from other banks, clearly did not. it helped them limp along the last few weeks. it did not help them ultimately in the end. >> they're going to open under new ownership. j.p. morgan chase buying first republic bank in a deal announced by the fdic early this morning. and this marks the second largest bank failure in u.s. history, a third bank failure in just the last couple weeks. this is an effort to shore up consumer confidence in the
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banking system. the fiddic takes control of thi bank. j.p. morgan the winning bid. this started several weeks ago when you had svb and signature bank failing. that created some nerves about first republic. you then have a first quarter earnings call just last week by first republic where they announce that deposits fell by 41% totalling $100 billion. that sent the stock market spiralling. they were down from $122 in early march. now the treasury department out this morning with a statement on this deal, they said, quote, the banking system remains sound and resilient. and americans should feel confident in the safety of their deposits and the ability of the banking system to fulfill the essential function providing credit to businesses and families. but, caitlyn, there is a cost to the fdic. about $13 billion.
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but at the same time, you have j.p. morgan chase paying about $10.6 billion to the fdic to close this deal. caitlyn? >> yeah. j.p. morgan was already the nation's largest bank. they got even bigger. that's going to get a lot more scrutiny from washington. we'll check in with you this morning. thank you. >> yeah. it will get scrutiny, that's for sure. when i sat down with jamie dimon last moshgs i asked him about the string of bank failures. would there be more? here's what he said then. >> this is not 2008. this is much more limited. there are only a handful of banks with this particular problem. they'll be resolved one way or another. people should take a deep breath n a week or two, a lot of banks are reporting earnings. i think they'll be pretty good. >> what we subsequently learned as we bring in roger altman, former deputy secretary of the streshry and founder and senior chairman of evercor. what we learned is how much money fled from first republic in the first quarter.
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but it's notable. jamie dimon, now leading the bank buying up most of the assets is the whouone who picke the phone and called the other bankers and said let's try to rescue first republic, i wonder why it didn't work. >> i think it didn't work because deposits kept leaving first republic. basically what happened here is the after the failure of silicon valley bank, a lot of depositors decided they didn't want their money at medium-sized banks and they moved that money either to the very largest banks like j.p. morgan or bank of america or to money market funds. and first republic in recent weeks lost almost all of the deposits. and what happens is they had to replace those deposits with a higher cost in loans from the federal home loan bank board and from the fed. >> if you have the deposits at
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first republic, if you have a mortgage through first republic, if you pay your small business payroll through first republic, what do you need to know? you're fine? >> you're fine. you're fine. in fact, all depositors in the united states today are fine. >> the new policy -- >> the new policy is first all deposits up to $250,000 are and have for a long time been guaranteed by the fdic. second, if your bank is threatened, becomes shaky, the federal authorities in recent weeks have made clear that they will protect all the deposits regardless of size. effectively, if the bank is sound, your deposits are fine. if the banks sbecome shaky, the deposits are fine. >> the two things we learned that help lead to this failure of first republic, two-thirds of the deposits were uninsured. if you talk about paying a
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payroll for a company of 100 people, a weak payroll, two weeks is going to top the fdic in the amount of $250,000. they have a lot of uninsured deposits. they also have a loan to capital ratio way bigger than most. they had more loan out than they had deposits in the bank. can you regulate against those things? what would prevent something like this? >> first of all, poppy, there is nothing wrong with having a lot of business deposits to gro beyond $250,000. there is nothing unhealthy about that. what really happened here and also happened with silicon valley bank is that in the last year or so, as interest rates rose quickly with the federal reserve trying to fight inflation and being a little late to that game, they found themselves with a mismatch. the they had taken deposits, invested them in longer term assets like federal bonds and mortgages. and as interest rates rose, they
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started to lose money. the cost of liability went up and return on assets didn't. they had a mismatch. in this ok, it wasn't quite as bad as silicon valley bank. that's what brought them down. >> i thought it was interesting that gary cohn who worked in the trump administration was also one of the top guys at goldman sachs for a long time, what he said about this. remember, on friday, right before we saw this bank failure, we got this fed analysis of all of the problems both in the government and at silicon valley bank and signature bank. here's what gary cohn said about that. let's listen. >> i mean this is a bit of a seismic moment because we believe in the united states and i think the u.s. population believes that the banks where they deposit their hard earned money are well regulated. >> right zb. we found out this week that banks are not well regulated and they admitted it themselves. >> you were deputy secretary of the treasury.
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do you agree that there are questions about whether the fed has a handle on this in terms of how they were regulating and watching these banks and protecting people? >> yes. i mean, as he just said, i think it was friday last week, michael barr, relatively new on the job, the new fed governor responsible for banks and provision, admitted it was a remarkable admission that the fed failed to properly supervise silicon valley bank. there were red flags everywhere and the response was passive. and that's obviously unfortunate. it's a good wakeup call. with the three failures, silicon valley bank, signature, and now first republic, they're going to have to go back to the drawing boards and rethink all of their approaches to examination and supervision and ultimately that will probably be a good thing. there is one other factor here which gary didn't mention. after the 2008 financial crisis, the dodd frank financial reform bill was passed. it tightened controls over
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banking. t tie liquidity ratios. then a few years later, four years ago, five years ago, legislation was passed to loosen that back up again and i think in retrospect, that latter legislation was a mistake and played a role in this also. >> yeah. and the fed report this weekend pointed that out. although, you know that was passed by 17 democrats in the senate. a lot of them are still defending it. >> what was behind that bill was the dodd-frank legislation of 2011 was very -- turned out to be very costly for a lot of small banks and rural banks to comply with. so, the spirit of loosening that up was probably right. but, it just went too far. and some banks like silicon valley bank and first republic bank were not as tightly regulated as they would have been. >> that's right. >> if that had passed. >> now the question is will congress act? >> unlikely over the short term. i think that's why the federal authorities have said all deposits will be protected
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regardless of the size. in a perfect world, you pass new legislation, reforming the deposit insurance system but in this environment polarized environment that won't happen. >> deputy secretary, thank you for your time. >> your pleasure. >> yeah. we'll see what the markets think when they open shortly. also this morning, outgoing mayor chicago mayor is going to join us live in studio. we're going to talk to her about her time in office. how she thinks crime in the u.s. could shape the 2024 presidential race. also, watch this -- >> that is a surf rider. [ beep ] tornado getting ready to hit. i'm not even kidding. this is real. >> a virginia man captured the moment where a tornado crept on to the coast. more on the severe weather there ahead. also, these are live pictures this morning out of davenport, iowa, communities along the cresting mississippi river are working to keep floodwater out of their homes this morning. here's to the very first influencer in your life... mom!
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[ beep ] >> getting ready to hit the island. i'm not even kidding. >> you see all the boats there. we're told around 100 homes were damaged. three schools are closed this morning because of the weather they saw over the weekend. thankfully, there are no immediate reports of deaths or injuries. also this morning, we want to go to the midwest. the mississippi river is cresting to dangerous levels. people that live along the river in states like minnesota, wisconsin, and iowa and illinois have all been stock piling sandbags and pumping out water. we're live in davenport, iowa. you've been tracking this to see what the preparations look like. the scene behind you right now looks like the one we saw on friday. what steps are they taking when it comes to the preparations and is the flooding let up at all? >> in some parts of the state, caitlyn, yes. and to acknowledge what you said, you say it looks like it did on friday. one thing is different. the train tracks are now covered with water. when we were here friday, we
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were able to make our way across the train tracks. as you can see at this hour, there is a train making its way through downtown davenport, slowly but surely. fire hydrants are submerged in the water here. a block from where we are right now, we visited mary's bar. and the business owner there as well as some of the patrons survived the flood of 2019. if history taught them anything, they say they're confident their sandbagging efforts will he keep the water at bay. listen in. >> this time around, we knew ahead of time what to do. i just take charge. bobby let me take charge. and i took all the volunteers who weren't sure what to do and organized them into a team. >> thank you. >> team work. we probably lead about 91% of
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these by hand. but it worked. >> they estimate they use ab 180,000 tons of sand. this river in downtown baven port, the mississippi river expected to crest today. caitlyn? >> you're downtown davenport. do most of the streets look like where you're standing now, impassable for cars? >> no, not all of the streets, just this centralized area. for example, where we are staying overnight, there is no water there. if you drive a little bit deeper into the city, there is no the wear there. and, again this is about as high as it will get. it's expected to crest today at 21 or so feet. >> wow. we see how slowly that train is moving behind you. adrian, thank you for that. >> a mysterious uptick in brain abscesses in children are on the las vegas area what the cdc is saying what and what to look out for in your child. >> also, take a look at this image from nasa.
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florida's beaches may look a bit more goopy. a type of large brown seaweed has begun washing on shore. the peak is not expected until june. take a look at this imagery. shows the scale of the 13 million ton floating blob of algae stretching from the west coast of africa to the gulf of mexico. it was record -- it was a record size for march. newly released batta show april matched the record setting amount of previously observed. joining us now in key west, florida, our reporter. i've seen this kind seaweed in mexico. it makes the beaches no the as pretty, that's for sure. >> not as pretty and frankly, a bit smelly. i have a ready to go, ready to show you.
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this is the seaweed mixed in a few other things. this is what is inundating florida's coast. specifically they're expecting the east coast. remember, last month we talked about this. but now we're actually starting to see it come in the record numbers that scientists predicted. take a look over here. the beach rakers here on this beach in key west have already arrived and have already done one run through on what is hitting the florida coast right now. let's go for a walk so i can show you how all of this stuff just spilz up. again, gets smelly because it decays out here. and as we mentioned, this is what one scientist told me is the tip of the iceberg. more expected. when this is out there, it is not only right now a 5,000 mile long body of seaweed, it is still growing while it's out there. so it is increasing in the amount that will be headed this way as you mentioned. expected to peak in bloom around
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that june-july time. that, of course, is summer when a lot of tourists come out here and are expecting a great vacation. we actually caught up with one couple already here hoping to celebrate a 60th birthday. the vacation not going as planned. listen. >> i mean , it's like 75 yards f seaweed before you hit clear water. we came down here. we both never been here before. i grew up in florida. this is not what we expected to see when we came in it here. this much seaweed. >> it's a big disappointment. >> yeah. listen, while we were driving down here to key west, you could see the patches throughout that -- about three hour drive down. so it's not just key west. expected to really impact the east coast and not just folks who are out hoping to get a nice swim out in the beach. also fishermen say, look, we love this stuff because it brings in the fish and can make for a good catch. but it can also have an impact
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on the boats if they get stuck in this stuff out there. >> yeah. of course. i wish i could smell it. maybe i don't wish i could smell it. >> no. >> no, you don't. nope. >> thank you for smelling it for us. and for that reporting. we'll see you soon. >> yeah. i'll pass on that one. also this morning, disease detectives with the cdc are investigating a cluster of these rare but serious brain abscess that's are happening in children in and around the las vegas area n 2022, last year, the number of brain abscesses in kids tripled in nevada, rising from an average of 4 to 5 a year to 18. the good news is that none of the patients died. doctors from other parts of the country say they may also be seeing a similar rise in cases. joining us now is the doctor who noticed this pattern in southern nevada. she is an associate professor at the university of utah and pediatric neurosurgeon. and, doctor, we're so grateful for your time this morning. the fact that you were the one
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that noticed this and actually alerted public health authorities. what did you see? what were you seeing and what did you tell them? zblfr good morning. i started noticing in late march a significant rise in patients sp presenting to the emergency room with high fevers and altered mental status and weakness. they were diagnosed with brain abscesses. we saw approximately 11 cases in the first four months which is what prompted my communication with the cdc. >> and so what did the cdc say when you reached out? had they been hearing it from other pediatricians? what was the concern there? >> the cdc investigated in 2021 and early 2022 and determined that rates that were nationally noted were consistent with prior fluctuations. however, i had urged them to reconsider continued surveillance through that 2022 and 2023 as our numbers were
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sill significantly higher than expected. >> you haven't seen as many case this is year in 2023. does that mean there is a link to the pandemic? what is your sense of that? >> so, we're hoping that whatever the cause, we're not quite certain what that cause of why we're seeing an increase. they go back to baseline. that's certainly what i see here in southern nevada. >> this is so alarming for any parent watching this. they want to know, you know, what should they be looking out for in their children if there is something similar happening? >> so, the patients that presented were significantly ill at the time that they came to the emergency room. this is very different than a common cold. thing this is he could look for is persistently high fevers, perhaps persistent drainage from the nose, puffiness in the face and eyes or anything not responding to normal course of
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treatment should be -- bring parents to the pediatrician or local emergency room. >> that's really good advice. doctor, one of the first officials to spot this and alert public health authorities. thank you for your time this morning. >> thank you. in the final weeks as chicago's mayor, laura lightfoot has white a message for her people. >> as democrats, if we do not speak the truth about violent crime in our city, we will be the worse for it. >> she's going to talk with us about that, a lot more. what's ahead. mayor lightfoot is in studio.
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the worse for it. you put the case on and judges and prosecutors say, you know what? we're going to let you out on electronic monitoring to wreak havoc again. we get tough on crime and while she dbidn't use cash bail, she s a former prosecutor and democrats are acting on that message, some of them. last week kathy hokel announced judges have more authority to set bail and detain dangerous defendants. this move comes after new york democrats in the mid terms were hit hard. she lost the bid for re-election in february in a race where the city's high crime rate was largely in focus. the final days in office are now. she's done in two weeks and
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really happy to have her in studio this morning. good morning. >> happy to be here. >> you have two weeks left. as we -- we're going to get into the sort of experience, but just your thoughts on what new york has done. it is challenging in the conversations around criminal justice reform, police reform is the voices of the victims have been lost. the point is as democrats, we got to straddle those various divides. but importantly, if we put victims' voice front and center, we'll be the winners. it's a victims. the people in the neighborhoods, people on the block that are affected every single day by violent dangers and if had a bid you'll offenders that are wreaking havoc. we can't coddle those kinds of people. we have to be tough on them.
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>> that's a family of broward. but to remind viewers, he spent three years at likers island for stealing a backpack because his family couldn't afford $3,000 to get him out on bail. and they -- he ultimately took his own life. they decry changes like this. what do you say to them? >> i don't think anybody, certainly not democrats believe, that local jails should be for people who just can't afford to pay in modest cast bail. that's not what this has to be about. they're asking the question when a defendant comes in front of them, are they a flight risk or are they a danger to the community? and what's gotten lost in those discussions is the danger to the community element. we fought hard in illinois to put that back into our state laws so that our communities could be safe. >> let me ask you about what the chicago tribune wrote after the day you lost the election.
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they left her labelled as a divisive leader unable to build political coalitions. i assume you take a little bit of issue with that. >> i take a lot of issue with that. >> tell us. >> here's the thing. oftentimes in the narrative, the focus on women in particular, black women, is about personalities and how we govern, how we present ourselves. how do you close the deficits two years in a row? how do we build and the social safety net with historic amount of $1.2 billion in investment? how did we push $2.2 billion into areas of our community that haven't seen a dime of investment in decades? kbh you look at the body of work with local stake holders, this nonsense around well, she was mean and she wasn't nice.
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it's crazy. you no he. this every woman in leadership, every woman who dares to say i have something to say, i want to lead. i want to contribute back. >> one thing that i found interesting that you've been saying in the final weeks in office is you talk about something you described as an anger bubble. covid up ended our assumptions about what our daily life was going to be. the future still not clear. so, a lot of people have manifested that anxiety as anger. i think for any elected official, at every level, we have to breakthrough that. importantly, what we've done to
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change their lives. i'm the first wave of mayors coming through covid that has run for re-election. i talk to my fellow mayors across the country to let them know about my experience to say you have to take on this challenge. >> you really went head-to-head with the teacher's union in chicago. now we're starting to he soot evidence, i'm seeing it as a parent. we're seeing the data come out about the learning loss from the schools being shut for so long. the union called conditions for in person schooling for a long time in chicago unsafe, right? they were representing teachers that didn't feel safe. >> the contents of the organization. schools demonstrated over and over again that schools were safe.
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we put $100 million into retrofitting classrooms, making sure they had the ppe, making sure that every single classroom had filters to make sure that the air was safe. deep cleaning of every single building. but fundamentally, we know that where children learn the best and where they are safest is in the classroom. and in person learning. and none of our parents signed up to be home schoolers. and the learning loss is real. we're making big steps in that direction. but the union needed to work with us. they never did that. >> here's what randy that heads that union said. let's play it. >> we spent every day from february on trying to get schools open. we knew that remote education was not a substitute for opening schools. >> former education secretary betsy devoss responded to that accusing her revisionist hist rich. do you agree with devoss?
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>> what i will say is this. that may have been what randy was saying at the national -- i believe that to be true. i had conversations with her at the time that lead me to believe that's what she wanted to do. that's not the reality that was happening on the ground in cities like chicago, like los angeles, and other places. we need to get our kids back in school. i'm unapologetic about the fight to make sure we put our kids and our parents first. >> quickly, advice to your successor brandon johnson. takes over may 15th. >> be humble. listen. rise above the fray and be the mayor for the entire city. >> mayor lightfoot. thank you. thank you for the work you did for chicago. >> plueasure. >> the stay with us. we're going to get to the table and talk about the letter you sent to greg abbott asking him to stop sending migrants to chicago. a lot more with you and adam kin singer. >> we do have more on. that the other top headline this morning as more than 200 law enforcement officers are now involved in this search for that gunman accused of killing five
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the numbers are getting worse, the agents are beyond an exhausting point, and it's not just at the border. now what you're seeing is places 100, 150 miles from the border are just as overwhelmed as if they were on the rio grande themselves. >> that's texas republican congressman tony gonzalez describing a worsening situation at the border as title 42 is set to expire next week. that's that covid-era policy that allowed the border authorities to quickly expel certain migrants. gonzalez' comments come as chicago's outgoing mayor, lori lightfoot, who you just heard from, is urging texas governor greg abbott to stop sending bus loads of migrants to her city, chicago. she wrote in a letter, your lack of consideration or coordination is an attempt to cause chaos has resulted in a critical tipping point in our ability to receive individuals and families in a
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safe, orderly, and dignified way. mayor lightfoot is back here at the table with us. also joining our conversation on immigration and other key issues, cnn's senior political commentator and former republican congressman from illinois, adam kinzinger. thank you both. two questions for you on this letter. one, have you heard anything? >> no, we have not heard anything back. and frankly, i didn't expect to hear anything back, but i felt like it was important to once again try to engage the governor, but also let him know what his policies and practices are doing in cities like chicago. we are completely tapped out. we have no more space. no more resources. and frankly, we're already in a surge. we've been seeing over the last week two to three -- 200 plus people coming to chicago every single day. we call them walk-ins, because they're not coming on buses, but they are coming on planes from san antonio, and we're very concerned, because they don't seem like they're getting screened at the border. we've seen people coming with serious medical issues. >> i imagine his response,
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though, would be a defense of what they're doing. obviously, he's continued to do this. and what governor abbott has said in the past is that this is a way for other states and other cities to see what texas and arizona deal with. saying that they are bearing the brunt of this issue and they're basically just showing other people what it's like. >> but what's getting lost in what the governor is doing is the fact that these are human beings. in any other emergency, you would be coordinating, you would be collaborating, you would be talking about specifically what the needs of the people are. we've seen people come off of these buses that he has sent who are victims of sexual assault, who have serious medical conditions that can't be dealt with by the paramedics that we have on site. they've got to be rushed to the hospital. women who are in such an advanced stage of labor that they literally get off the bus and give birth within one of our facilities. that doesn't make any sense. so if we don't put the humanity of these migrants front and center win understand, and i'm solely compassionate to the fact that the borders are themselves really overrun, but you don't
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solve that problem by simply sticking people on buses to a city that they didn't ask to come to, for an uncertain future, and now, where we are literally full. >> congressman, the only solution, actually, lasting solution is from your former employer, it's congress. it's the only -- executive orders get challenged in the courts, look at daca, continues to be challenged, et cetera. you've got mayors pleading for help, new york city, same thing, from mayor adams. congressman, are you going to do anything. >> yeah, no. >> no, no, right? >> no is the answer. this is actually the easiest thing to solve. i can give you an 80% issue, which is serious border security, take care of the folks that are here illegally, give them a pathway at the pack of the line to citizenship or legalization, you can go down that and pay a fine. 80% of americans say that's a good solution. the problem is, republicans hold on to border security, democrats hold on to the issue of those who are here illegally, and nothing gets done. i have worked the border as a member of the national guard and i'll tell you, the human
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trafficking issue on the border is very serious. we find bodies in the desert in arizona. we would find young girls that have been raped by coyotes bringing them over. this is a human issue. and i agree with the maple on, you cannot just start shipping people around the country to make political points. yes, texas and arizona have a huge problem. and they need extra resources to deal with. but you don't deal with it by further dividing this country on the issue of immigration. and that's what, frankly, people like governor abbott are trying to do. >> title 42 is set to expire, though, and there are major questions for the administration on how they're prepared to handle this. we've seen them out talking about it from secretary mayorkas, secretary blinken. what's your sense of whether or not the biden administration is prepared to handle title 42 going away? >> i know that they are focused on this issue. they've been focused on it for months and months and months, but the reality is in the cities, we are already seeing the surge. and we need immediate federal help. two things, one, we need fema to issue the misunderstand that congress has already
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appropriated to them. we got $5.5 million last fall. we've not seen a nickel yet this year. there are two programs that congress set up. fema needs to speed up. >> why aren't you getting that money? >> we have no idea. we have been talking, talking, talking. we need fema to step up and do the right thing. the other thing is, we need work permits for these people that are coming in. if they're here in a country legally, they should be able to work. i could put every single able-bodied adult in my city to work yesterday if they had legal work permits. >> there's like 10 million open jobs. we've seen the real impact of labor shortages across sectors. i want to change the topic to abortion, and your perspective on how your party, the republican party, is handling these questions about abortion now. it is what every presidential candidate in your party needs to answer. and these answers have been sort of all over the map. is it a winning issue for them? they've already got dobbs, overturning roe v. wade. >> yeah, it's not. here's how abortion politics worked until dobbs was
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overturned. the pro-choice group wasn't really super motivated, because to him, it was always going to be legal, it's not the thing that drives you to polls. pro-life was. now that that has switched, you see the pro-choice crowd being driven to the polls and the pro-life crowd is unable to have a coherent message here. i say, as a pro-lifer myself, i say we should move to a position to promoting a culture of life. how do we encourage adoption in this country. how do we make sure those that are born in an unwanted environment can be adopted? and let's be realistic thing about rape, incest, life and health of the mother, and let's set a reasonable time frame, not at six weeks for abortion, something a little farther down the line. and i think that could have been a big win, frankly for the pro-life movement and the pro-choice probably wouldn't agree with all of it, but it wouldn't be as cruel as what you're seeing out of my party now and it's bad politics. >> was it a mistake for desantis to sign that six-week bill? >> i think so, i think so. yeah. >> he hasn't been talking about it very much. what do you make of what's
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happening. look at what's happening in nebraska and south carolina, where these state legislatures are coming up with really strict things, and in certain states, we're seeing a lawmaker, an 80-year-old man who was saying it was way too soon when it came to six weeks, because a lot of people don't know they're pregnant by then. >> i think the republican party will rue the day when they latched on to these and these draconian laws that are being passed in the state legislature, particularly across the south, i think that this is not only going to become a social issue, motivating pro-choice women, but it's going to be an economic issue. we're already seeing companies saying, we are not going to stay in states that don't respect women. and frankly, states like illinois, cities like chicago, we're going to welcome those people. this is a value statement issue that i think is going to animate the discussion, not only in the next election cycle, but for years to come, where companies are making decisions about where they go, kids are making decisions about where they go to college, on the basis of, what is s
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