artificial intelligence. >> i think a lot of writers feel as though with ai coming in, they might get really, really small gigs and so they want to make sure they have a minimum duration of work and a minimum pay guarantee. >> reporter: how will the strike affect some streaming favorites like apple plus' "ted lasso"? >> i think that's what it's all about, embracing change. >> you're still going to see those shows come out week after week because they were delivered months ago. all the streamers have bragged that they have a bunch of shows in the pipeline going forward. >> reporter: but industry analysts say if the strike goes on for a couple of months the fall tv schedule will be af affected because right now in may and yuen is when the writers are actually writing those shows so they can film in july and august. >> brian, thank you. to our viewers thanks for watching. i'm wolf bliltser in "the situation room." erin burnett "outfront" starts right now.tzer in "the situation room." erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, unacceptable. what one many diddic senator calls president biden's plan to

send armed troops to the southern border. bracing for a mass inexflux of migrants, a new report from the border you'll see first on "outfront." new details for the manhunt or the texas suspect who killed five people including a 9-year-old boy. the man's neighbor telling cnn where his clothes and cell phone were found. and putin as a hippie. desantis visiting disney, ronald reagan surrendering to the soviets. inside an ai operation that is meant to deceive. let's go "outfront." good evening, i'm erica hill in font for erin burnett. "outfront," troops to the border. president biden deploying 1,500 armed troopses to the u.s./mexico border as the country braces for an influx of migrants. nearly 40,000 asylum seekers are waiting just across the border in mexico, waiting to enter the u.s. once the trump-era covid rule known as title 42 expires next week. that rule has been used more

than times by border officials to quickly expel migrants from the u.s. biden's plan announced today to send troops to the border met almost immediately with stiff resistance from some in his own party. new jersey senator bob menendez writing, the biden administration's militarization of the border is unacceptable. there's already a humanitarian crisis in the western hemisphere and deploying military personnel only signals that migrants are a threat that require our nation's troops to contain. nothing could be further from the truth. and yet u.s. cities along the border say they do need help. el paso just declaring a new state of emergency. over the past several weeks officials have encountered nearly 1,400 migrants at the border each day and fear the situation is about to explode. you're looking at images coming up here, there you go, that's a caravan on its way to the southern border right now.

russell flores is along the border with what you will see first on "outfront." rosa, what are you seeing and hearing on the ground there tonight? >> reporter: well, it's a heartbreaking story. walk with me and i'll show you. hundreds of migrants are on the streets of el paso. i just interviewed the priest that runs the shelter here. he tells me that there are about 120 to 130 women and children he has capacity for inside the shelter. everyone else, he says, has to stay outside. he says it's an unknown number. he just doesn't know how many migrants are out here, and he says he doesn't expect the flow to stop. the city of el paso under a state of emergency. as hundreds of migrants camp outside shelters on the streets and alleys and parking lots ahead of the lifting of the pandemic era rule known as title 42, which allows immigration agents to swiftly expel some migrants to mexico.

how would you characterize what you're seeing right now? >> scary. >> reporter: john martin runs the opportunity center for the homeless and says the surge started last tuesday when 70 migrants started camping outside. now, nearly 700 total. >> we haven't had the opportunity to come out here and actually talk to each of theesfeld these folks one by one. >> reporter: because so many arrived so quickly. >> exactly. >> reporter: and the flow of migrants arriving by train across the border from el paso is growing too say officials. cnn was there in april. [ speaking non-english ] were you coming on the train. [ speaking non-english ] >> reporter: as esmi jumped off the train with his four children and wife. [ speaking non-english ] she says her children haven't eaten in four days. >> reporter: they are part of a large group of migrants who are arriving in northern mexico and staying on the streets. in hotels, or migrant shelters.

♪ >> reporter: like this one, the pain of the migrant's struggle palpable during church service. this man embraces his two boys and says he and his wife couldn't live in nicaragua anymore. >> it's difficult and dangerous to me. >> reporter: especially after he protested against his government in 2018. garcia shows us. he still has a pellet in his arm which came from nicaraguan security forces. nearly 40,000 migrants are in northern mexico according to officials and community leaders. in tijuana about 9,000 are waiting. in reynoso andup to 10,000. for this woman from guatemala --

it was gang threats and her son's death. they left nicaragua because of political oppression there. back in el paso if this time lapse of a walk around one city block is a preamble about how long can you go based on the resources that have you? >> best guess right now estimating friday. >> reporter: community leaders say the end of title 42 could be one for the history books. now, if you're wondering why are there just so many migrants that are congregated in this city street in and around this one shelter, there's various reasons, i've talked to some of these migrants, they say first of all that a lot of them don't have money to continue on their journey. a lot of them are trying to find work, but they know that if they leave this area, they could be apprehended by immigration. why? u.s. immigration normally doesn't pick up individuals in what they call safe zones, in other words, churches, they normally don't pick up

individuals in these areas and that's why, erica, you see them congregated close to the church because together in numbers close to the church, they feel safe. erica. >> rosa, excellent reporting as always. appreciate it. thank you. "outfront" now, democratic congresswoman veronica escobar who represents el paso, texas, good to have you with us. when we look at what's happening, the president announcing today he's sending 1,500 additional troops to the border to help, democratic senator bob menendez called this unacceptable and said, quote, the administration has had over two years to plan for the eventual end of this trump era policy in a way that does not compromise our values as a country trying to score political points or intimidate migrants by sending the military to the border caters to the republican party's xenophobic attacks on our asylum. do you agree with his assessment? >> i do not agree with the senator. this is a very different approach using the military than

what we saw in the last administration, which i did condemn. during the last administration, then president trump used our military personnel to actually interact with migrants and take on a quasi-law enforcement role. in fact, here in el paso, we saw military personnel with long guns turning migrants away at our ports of entry. our united states military should have absolutely no role in law enforcement. i spoke with secretary mayorkas this morning. none of that is going to be happening this go-round. instead, that military personnel is going to be used to provide support to border patrol without engaging in any law enforcement activities and without engaging directly with migrants. what we have right now, what we need is all hands on deck. we have a shortage of personnel. we need border patrol agents back to their mission and that's what this will help achieve. >> let me push you on one other

point. the senator also said the administration has had over two years to plan for the event end of this policy. in a way that does not compromise our views as a country. i know you have said telling my colleagues on cnn recently you believe the administration, the president has done all he can. it's up to congress now. the reality for most americans watching this is they're not seeing a lot of action. so, can you point to one instance where you're working for folks at home to understand where are you working across the aisle? >> yeah, i'm actually -- >> to spur some action in congress. we know things are tough in washington but the folks at home would love to hear some of that. >> absolutely. so, first and foremost i have been working closely with the administration from day one. and they have adopted whenever possible many of the ideas that i've provided them. the challenge has been some of what they've been limited from doing has come as a result from lawsuits from red states like my

own, and that has encumbered their ability to really broaden their effort, but i also am working on bipartisan legislation. i don't want to get ahead of it but, you know, i'm hoping that it will be completed soon, that i think will help not just in the immediate but over the long term. it really is on congress to act and it's very important that as we look at what's happening on the u.s./mexico border, that all of us, legislators and the executive work in concert to create long-term important real solutions. >> congresswoman escobar, we look forward to hearing more about that legislation you are working on. thanks for joining us tonight. >> thank you. "outfront" now, david axelrod, former senior advise story president obama. you saw senator menendez's statement. he accused the president of

trying to score political points with this move. how big a problem do you anticipate this could be for biden within his own party? >> look, there may be some blowback. the president's been toughening his policies for months now starting in january when he said that there would be immediate return of immigrants from certain countries that were particularly problematic and other steps that he's taken, so this is not new, this is, as the congresswoman said a little different than during the trump administration because the troops that were sent down there were largely props for the president's -- for president trump's notion that the caravans were coming and should be very afraid. apparently these troops will be used to do low christy cal thing, not military actions, not law enforcement actions. that said, they've got a big problem on their hands when title 42 goes off, you know, the crossings of the border are

likely to be doubled. it's already at a dangerous level, and, you know, or an uncontrollable level so they need to do something, and the biggest concern should be that, i mean, the president needs to show progress on this issue, and that should be his focus and not sort of polling. >> but there is the polling. well, you say the work should be his focus. the reality is 35% of americans don't approve or 35% do approve of the way biden is handling immigration. 63% disapprove. those numbers worse for him than his overall job rating when we look at it which is about 42% right now. looking into 2024, he has to at some point take those numbers into account, i would imagine. >> well, look, i think the best way to take those numbers into account is to try and take significant steps to deal with the problem and try and engage the republicans, they've scheduled a vote on their own bill on may 11th but in

washington, you know, we tend to weaponize problems instead of solve them. this problem really demands solutions and it probably demands both parties to help on that, and that's where the focus should be. if -- the reason he's at 35% is because we've had this long-standing problem with immigration over several administrations and it continues to plague us and it needs to be addressed and so what he really needs to do, erica, make progress on the problem, and the numbers will take care of themselves but if he doesn't, those numbers are going to remain where they are. >> david axelrod, always good to see you, thank you. >> nice to see you. "outfront" next, mysterious attacks, one top russian official hospitalized after an assassination attempt in an occupied ukrainian city. this is a powerful explosion derailing another russian freight train. plus, hundreds of officers trying to track down the man who killed five people including a

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tonight a russian installed police official in the occupiie city is hospitalized after a device exploded. this comes less than a week after another russian backed police chief was killed outside his home. some experts see explosions as a possible prelude to ukraine's much anticipated counteroffensive. "outfront" now, david gutenfelder award winning photojournalist who returned from the front line with ukrainian soldiers preparing for this crucial counteroffensive. good to have you with us tonight. david. some of these soldiers you took of these ukrainian -- the photos rather of these ukrainian soldiers up close, take us inside these moments. you were in the trenches as i understand it that some dug by hand. what are they going through in these moments leading up to the expected counteroffensive? >> well, we spent about two

weeks with ukrainian territorial defense brigade. a pretty good look from front line trenches and patrolling at night with soldiers hunting for russian suicide drones, but, yeah, probably the most dramatic thing i saw were a mortar team that were literally living and fighting from underground. we entered a trap door in the forest floor and went down inside these very narrow trenches, just shoulder width and there were men with ipads looking at a live feed of their drone patrolling and looking for targets and when they found one, russians in a nearby tree line, they would open up a camouflage retractible roof in the trench ceiling, fire a mortar off at the enemy and then quickly close

it again before russians could spot them with their own drones. these guys are living underground and as you said living in trenches they dug with their own hands and shovels in land where they grew up and where they're from. >> i was struck too by some of the soldiers who told you and your colleague that their homes are towns which are now occupied by russia, one soldier actually noting saying imagine the situation, you're alive, but your life has been taken away. we'll have nowhere to return if we don't top this. if we don't end it. if we don't win. i mean, how much is that really indicative of how much is riding on this counteroffensive for all of them? >> yeah, for all of them, especially this brigade, the majority of them and especially these men in this trench, they -- they're from the zaporizhzhia area. they had to retreat from their towns and villages in the early

days of the war and many of them still have family members living inside now russian occupied towns and so, you know, this fight, this coming counteroffensive i would say is very personal for these people. >> it's also been ukraine's ambassador to the uk saying it's been delayed due to weather. you know, as you said you saw the front lines for yourself and you saw a lot of it up close. is it just the weather in your sense? >> i mean, there's, you know, there's a lot of anticipation about the counteroffensive. people are looking to this to, you know, strategically to bolster support from the west and also just to build morale. they've been -- this is 14 months of war, people are ready to fight. but, yeah, it's been delayed. it's been delayed by waiting for some promised weapons and so forth but mostly, yeah, right now it's just soupy, muddy

springtime conditions. the soldiers there -- >> yeah. >> we were pushing our own vehicle out of the mud and also saw some of the new weaponry, 60-ton howitzers just stuck in the mud and barely movable. >> yeah, and that paints quite a picture. david, your images are incredible and appreciate you joining us tonight to talk through some of them and more of what you saw on the ground, thank you. >> thank you. "outfront" next, new details in the search for the man accused of killing five people including a child in texas and a neighbor telling cnn where the suspect's clothes and cell phone were found. plus, this just in, a judge's ruling after the transgender lawmaker sued her state for being kicked out of the house chamber. z she is "outfront."

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tonight, growing questions about what the wife of the texas man suspected of killing five people in his neighborhood told investigators. francisco oropeza is accused of shooting to death five people including a 9-year-old boy after the boy's father asked him to stop firing his rifle in the

front yard. the manhunt intensifying as oropeza remains on the run for a fourth day. ed lavendera is "outfront." >> reporter: a blanket of eerie fog covered the neighborhood where francisco oropeza unleashed the violent attack killing five neighbors. oropeza's picture now sittingss on large signs outside of cleveland, texas. the attack started after oropeza's neighbors asked had him to stop shooting his ar-15 in his yard because their baby was trying to sleep next door has triggered a massive manhunt with more than 200 law enforcement officers that's lasted four days. in a sign of how difficult the search for credible leads has become, fbi investigators said in a tweet, they're working with law enforcement agencies across the state, country and across the border. we're leaving no stone unturned. the fbi is also asking anyone with photos or videos of oropeza

to come forward. >> it's been very scary. >> reporter: vivian told cnn affiliate ktrk that investigators found oropeza's cell phone and clothing in this area behind her home the day after the killings. she lives just a few houses away from where the massacre happened. >> they stopped me and a lot of cops came down and they're all like, let me search your truck and we're like we're going to head to your house because it looks like the shooter is at your house. >> reporter: oropeza was not there. law enforcement officers continue patrolling the rugged streets in the neighborhood searching for the 38-year-old suspect. an investigator also returned to the crime scene going inside the home where the five honduran immigrants were shot and killed and ten others survived. and in the last two days a woman believed to be oropeza's wife has come and gone from the semico suspect's home several times. an fbi agent was at the home while she was there monday. the sheriff says oropeza's wife

has been cooperative with investigators. >> she's been interviewed two or three times and she's in constant contact. if we need her she's available and vice versa. we're valuable for her. >> reporter: survivors of the attack say they made multiple calls to 911 asking for help to get oropeza to stop shooting his rifle. and that has angered residents like dale tiller who runs this neighborhood's crime watch group. he says there's a long history of calls for help going unanswered in this area. >> things back here are handled differently where vigilante justice, we don't have police patrol. if police were called it would take them well over an hour, maybe two just to get here. >> reporter: erica, the san jacinto sheriff has said his department has limited resources, it's a large county spread over many thousands of acres here in southeast texas

and that they responded to this shooting situation as quickly as they could. the main focus remains the manhunt and search for francisco oropeza and right now it doesn't appear clear that investigators are any closer to figuring out where he might be tonight. erica. >> ed, appreciate the update. thank you. "outfront" now, rob frayer, the first assistant d.a. of san jacinto county, texas. good to have you with us right now. as ed was saying based on what he heard from law enforcement, a lot of questions remain about where oropeza could be. do you know of any new leads? >> the officers that we've been working with for the last four day, state, local, feder have been working very hard, and have done a good job in harnessing and gathering a number of tips that have come in. we've spoken to family contacts, people that know him and we are leaving no stone unturned regarding locates this individual.

we all share the same common objective at this point, which is the apprehension of this individual who we believe is responsible. >> so as you're looking at this, is there any indication based on what you know or have found that anyone is helping him? >> we are investigating all leads, obviously the information that we got at the very beginning, he apparently left the location on foot, so, like sheriff caper said the initial search has -- was focused on the area immediately surrounding walters road where this happened, however, it's been four days now and obviously that being the case, we've gone where the evidence has taken us, where the tips have taken us, so -- and followed up on some other locations which may be a little bit farther spread out. >> are some of those locations across the border? rob, can you hear me?

>> i can. >> are some of those locations across the border? there are questions about whether he is till in the country. >> well, that's a good question, i guess, for people to have but we're not going to divulge the details of an ongoing fact sensitive law enforcement investigation that we don't want to compromise in any way, so as i said before, the fbi, the marshals, homeland security and all the local sheriffs that have stepped up and come forward as well as the texas rangers and all of the very experienced department of public safety from our state police have come forward and have combined our resources with the once again with the one common objective and that is to apprehend this defendant and do it in a safe manner for everybody. >> you know, as we just heard from ed lavendera on the ground, we heard about oropeza's wife who has been cooperating with investigators. the sheriff saying they've been in constant contact. do you know whether he has reached out to her? has she heard from him at all?

>> i don't know. i don't know and i'm not at liberty to say what sort of actions we believe he has been involved in at this point. these are facts that could certainly come out at a later date, but right now getting back to what i've said and told everybody else, we just want to locate this individual. >> sure. >> we want it where it's safe for the community and safe for him, it's safe for law enforcement. because given the underlying facts of what happened it's a tragedy for this family, for the community, and these officers, these deputies in san jacinto county work their tails off with limited resources. >> if he is in mexico, what would that mean for the victims' families? what would it mean for this case? >> well, it would make it frustrating. it would be very frustrating for the victims' families. the victims' families want and

deserve justice and the victims' families, i hope they're aware of the fact that we have been there and reached out to them in attempts to talk to all of them and to ensure them that we are bringing every resource we have to bear to locate the individuals that we believe -- the individual we believe that is responsible for this horrific tragedy. we're doing everything we can. >> residents tell cnn gunfire is pretty common in the neighborhood and that complaints, they feel, have been ignored. one neighbor said oropeza specifically shot at the ground during a party in 2021 when someone asked to turn down the music. were you aware of any of those concerns? >> was i in 2021? no. >> or even any -- >> i've been working here -- i have heard some of the complaints that some of the citizens have made. i can verify that in this case that between the time the call dropped for a weapons disturb bangs the first deputy arrived at this location which is in a very remote wooded area in 11

minutes, the first deputy was there. these roads leading towards these residences in this community are in terrible condition. and that is no way serves as any kind of a justification or an excuse but these officers got there as soon as they could and then other agencies around the area poured in and provided support for montgomery county from liberty county and the department of public safety. they were there within minutes after that. i do know that and by the time the sun came up the next morning there were probably over 150 law enforcement officers at the scene. there were 150 to 200 law enforcement at our command center from probably 20 separate law enforcement agencies doing everything they can. >> sure. we know how close everyone is working together now. rob freyer, thank you. >> thank you very much. "outfront" next if you didn't know you might think

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just in, a montana judge ruled state representative zooey zephyr will not be allowed to return to the house floor before the legislative session ends on friday. zephyr, the first openly transgender woman elected to the legislature was banned from the chamber by her republican colleagues. she spoke out about legislation that would prevent transgender children from receiving gender-afirming medical care. >> if you vote yes on this bill, and yes on these amendments i hope the next time there's ang invocation when you bow your heads in prayer you see the blood on your hands. >> now, zephyr is still allowed to vote but remotely and cannot debate any legislation. representative zephyr is "outfront" now. good to have you with us. you sued the house speaker and sergeant at arms over what you called their, quote, unconstitutional censure and retaliatory silencing and moments ago we learned a judge

rejected your lawsuit. what is your next step here? >> so, i -- when i was elected i vowed to represent my constituents here in the people's house and what we've seen is that the speaker and the republican supermajority took away my ability to represent my constituents and in doing so took away their right to representation. and i'm going to work to make sure that they get the representation they deserve. if i can't do it in the house i will make sure we do it in the courts. if we can't do it in the courts we'll do it in the ballot box. >> there's another legal option for you. >> i'm exploring every avenue available to make sure my constituents, the people who sent me here, have the representation that they have a right to. >> some of your constituents signed on to this lawsuit i believe, four of them, you talked about those 11,000 voices or 11,000 constituents who you feel are being silenced by you not being allowed to be in the chamber and debate when it comes

to legislation. i know you talked about speaking with some of your colleagues. have any of your colleagues, any of your fellow lawmakers, are they able to share some of the concerns that you've heard from constituents, bring those issues into debates that you're not allowed to airparticipate in? >> yeah, what we're seeing is that when the speaker disallows me to speak and doesn't allow me to represent my constituents, those constituents' concerns don't go away, and the reason i sat in the hallway as close to the people's house as i could is to make sure that in some small way, i could try to get them the representation that they have a right to, so i'm catching lawmakers in the hallway and saying, hey, here's what i'm hearing from my community. here's what we should be talking about on this bill. can you try to get something across? and they do, but it's not the same as your representative, my colleagues aren't the people that my constituents represented. they elected me to be in that house for them.

>> as you explore other potential legal options and, again, this aall happening tonight, i know you said today someone threatened your girlfriend and they're saying they're doing everything in their power to harm us. we will not be deterred and stand in defiance of their cruelty and never stop working until trans people get to live our lives in peace. i was reel think struck there. there have been a number of efforts across the country to block access whether it is to bathrooms or to sports, or to health care. can you just give us a sense of how difficult it is in this moment to not only live in peace but for members of the trans community who may want to speak out, do they feel that they can, people who you've heard from based on what we're seeing in terms of threats? >> well, trans people know that when we get to transition, we come into lives full of joy, full of meaning, we get that

pursuit of happiness. we get to realize that in a way we cannot without the health care we need. and so what we see from these legislative attacks is twofold. the first we see is the real harm that comes when you deny health care that people need, lifesaving health care, health care we know reduces suicide. that's one aspect. the other aspect is as the fearmongering around trans people continues to escalate, bad actors seek to harm us and whether that is, you know, people getting assaulted in my state on the side of the road or run over by a car, things like the shooting do you know in colorado, or an attempted swatting of my partner, the risk of harm is real, but trans people will persevere. >> representative zephyr we appreciate you joining us tonight. >> always, thank you. "outfront" next, lawmakers trying to crack down on images

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the political committee imagines a dystopian future if president biden is re-elected. >> invades taiwan. >> reporter: but all isn't as it seems. all the images in that ad were created using ai. >> oh, my goodness. >> images are powerful and that this ability to create so many images so rapidly, it's incredibly powerful. >> reporter: new technology makes it easy to create fake images that look realistic like these created by artists and online trust and safety expert tim boucher. >> this is be democratized at such a scale and basically anybody can use it to impact the global conversation on pretty much any topic. >> reporter: from the comfort of his garage turned workshop in canada, he's created all sorts of fake images. imagining vladimir putin as a hippy, even president reagan

surrendering to the soviets. he's trying to make people more aware of a.i. >> we don't have the luxury of waiting. these things are happening in real time, we have to talk about it, be upfront about the good things and bad things that could come of it. >> reporter: political campaigns have long used advertising to imagine what happens if their opponent is elected. like this ad from president lyndon b. johnson that imagined a nuclear apocalypsea fake vide purporting to show the ukrainian president surrendering to russia surfaced. it was a deep fake plus. >> i can create it, i can broadcast it to the world instantaneously through social media. >> reporter: a professor at uc

berkeley. >> 50% of the news happens in the first few minutes, by the time i figure out it's fake, millions of people have already seen it. >> reporter: not all users need to be nefarious. in india this made it look like this politician made an address in multiple languages. it's a deep fake. he runs an organization tracking online hate. says the republican ad is not itself dangerous. >> it's a gateway to more uses of a.i., like to deep fake president biden saying i'm going to force everyone to take a vaccine. >> reporter: texas has a law on its books against deep fakes in the weeks leading up to an election but it's unclear how enforceable that law is. there's a tiny disclaimer that

says made with a.i. >> i'm blind, i would never see that. >> reporter: some people knew it was fake. >> all of the images are fake. >> yes. >> i believe it. >> reporter: others weren't so confident. >> i don't think i would have known it was made a.i. if you hadn't said anything. >> i always say it's so scary. but it's interesting, you learned how a.i. is helping campaigns reach voters, is that safe? >> it's scary. yeah, we spoke this week to a data ceo who runs a company that targets voters. on every voter a lot of campaigns have hundreds of thousands of data points, how we live, demographics, who we donate to, things like that. he was explaining that a.i. models can go through that and see the patterns that humans

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tonight, to debate or not debate. cnn learning former president trump has privately discussed skipping one or both of the two republican primary debates this summer. one aide saying it would be stupid to debate his opponents with a wide lead in the polls. but he told some allies he didn't want to go to the reagan library as he's never been invited there. so you want to cast a wider net, you heard the new reporting. is him saying i don't want to debate, i'm doing so well at this point, a man who doesn't want to screw up the lead? >> arguably yeah, he's got a 25-point lead over ron desantis in the primary, and that lead is growing larger and larger.

he wants to look ahead to the general election and appeal to moderate voters. even within the republican party he leads among moderate voters for the gop nomination. that lead is smaller than his overall lead. the idea if i appeal to general electorate moderates, maybe that's in the republican party, too, that's his weak point. >> so he learned from 2020? >> he might have. he said i want to get back to 2016, appeal toward the center, bring more people in the party. and what do we see with independent voters? 2016 or 2020? in 2016 he won independents and that's why he defeated hillary clinton. in 2020, he lost them by double digits to joe biden. he wants to get back to his

roots. >> 2016 was a different beast, people didn't know as much about him. >> that's the real question, how easy will it be to appeal to that part of the electorate. pollsters have asked where do you see donald trump ideologically, those who think moderate or liberal, they were a large portion in 2016, north of 40%. now, only 18%. so i think the idea of being able to sell i'm a moderate, not sure it's that easy this time around. >> you'll be there to explain it to us. >> i'm going to try. >> thanks for joining us tonight. "ac-360" starts right now. good evening, we begin tonight, keeping them honest. the biden administration is sending 1,500 more active duty