good evening, we begin with breaking news tonight. for the police in and around let's have been looking for this man, deon patterson. a suspect in a mass shooting in the local medical center that killed one woman and wounded four others. tonight, he is in custody. we just learned we want to go

to cnn's, garrett tuckerman. what we learned gary? >> anderson, just about ten minutes ago a police officer in cobb county georgia said the alleged gunman, diane patterson, is under arrest and this gated community behind me here in smyrna georgia, which is a suburb about 11 miles northwest of where the shootings happen today, this is waterfront place, there are police cars behind the gates as we speak. we know that because we are following them as we arrived. we were about five minutes down the road. we saw police cars swimming bias. we then followed them. we came here. a police officer was sitting down there. i asked him what is going on inside. he told me we have apprehended the suspect. and he is alive. there was no shootout. it appears that he surrendered peacefully. about an hour ago, there were

about 100 police officers and swab the echoes about five minutes in this direction next to truist park, with the atlanta braves play baseball. the braves are playing on the road tonight, so is very quiet in that area. the area is called a battery here. they are restaurants and theaters next to the baseball stadium. it was full of swat vehicles and police officers looking for the suspect. earlier in the day, the car that is believed, that this man hijacked, was found in a parking lot in the battery area. police then asked employees in the office where the car was parked they saw the man. they said they did not see the man. a woman i talked to who worked in the office tells us the officer told her they have video from a camera nearby that shows him leaving the car, and walking through an apartment complex which was right next to us. apparently he walked through the complex here, crossed this very busy street in cobb county, georgia -- a county with a population of 670, 000, northwest of atlanta, as i said -- and is now apprehended inside the -- we are waiting for him to come

out. it appears that this chase for this man, looking for him, is all over. gary tuchman, we just got word, by the way, gary tuchman, that the police are giving a press conference at 8:15 pm. we will bring that to you. i want to go to cnn's ryan young, where the shooting happened. ryan, it's obviously been an incredibly busy ending chaotic day for law enforcement. >> yeah, absolutely, it has, anderson cooper. what we were told earlier on from our sources is that this man appeared here at this facility to get some sort of medical attention with his mother. and at some point, he became agitated on the inside, and started shooting inside this complex. there were nurses and patients who were running for their lives. they were locking doors. and they were immediately aware of the situation, and you can see that a pd was able to put

out a great description photo of this man and tried to shut down all the parking lots in the nearby area so he could not get out of here. but then we learned he did carjacks someone and that carjacking took place while he was rushing towards cobb county. all day long, we were talking to our sources about what he did to try to minimize the shooting scene in terms of this the impact of it all. there were dozens of people who are calling 9-1-1 when this initially happened. and as we move to a situation we knew that they were actually arresting some people who they thought look just like the suspect. then we learned the man, at some, point was a member of the military. he served in the coast guard for quite some time. and he was agitated with some of the medical care that he was receiving. and they came to this facility to get some help. and then something went sideways on the inside, anderson, and then that shooting started. from that point on, it's been an all out effort all day long, with the roads around here shut down. and then the massive man hunt, and the camera networks

throughout the city, to try to locate this man. but i can tell you that people have been shaking all day long. -- former atlanta mayor keisha lance bottoms, also senior cnn law enforcement analyst and fbi director -- deputy director -- andrew mccabe. andrew, i'm wondering, first of all, what's your reaction to the suspect being apprehended? >> well, anderson, obviously, it's a great result. this is what you hope for in a main, to find the person you are looking for before they are able to hurt anybody else. and, of course, to take that person into custody without having to fire a shot. it will be really interesting to hear what the police have to say about how they finally identified his location in that neighborhood that we just saw. gary pointed to -- and there's a lot of things to listen to their. but i have to tell you that there is no way to describe the intensity of what it is like to be involved in or overseeing a manhunt like this. having done it a few times in my own career, including in a

search for joe carson i have, after the boston bombing, i can tell you that you just go from one second to the next, going from one piece of information to the next. and it is an absolute singular focus. and it's just a great accomplishment for these folks on the ground and for these folks who have gotten this person back into custody. >> yeah. john miller is joining us here as well. john, obviously, a great result. but what a frenetic day trying to figure out where this guy was. >> well, it's another tragic day. a life has been lost. other people have wounded. the city has been charged with terror during this hunt, not knowing where the gunman was. but in the end, they were very careful, understanding that this person who was on edge, who was distraught, who was armed and dangerous, to try and go through this with a plan that would go to an ending that would be as safe as possible for him, for law enforcement, and to bring some kind of justice without getting into another shootout -- after the carjacking of that vehicle, that was recovered in

cobb county. they fanned out in that area. and then, it's something interesting, which is they started to withdraw the uniformed people away, and put plain clothes people into the area, into those two apartment complexes on foot in unmarked cars. and the idea that he was not seeing police everywhere -- he might pop out somewhere. not exactly sure how that happened. but between atlanta pd, cobb county pd, and u.s. marshals fugitive task force, they encountered him and took him into custody safely. >> by the, we are seeing some police cough sirs officers -- where he was apprehended. >> right. and we have a lot of law enforcement agencies. but it ended as safely as something that started this way could possibly end. >> mayor bottoms, clearly, the city in the surrounding area is breathing a sigh of relief after the hours of this man hunt. >> yeah, absolutely. this has had everyone, as you can imagine, on edge all day and i just describe atlanta, anderson, as really, a big small town. so many people are connected.

i have a friend who was in that medical office earlier today. i know the woman who runs that medical practice. and so there was a lot of personal concern amongst a lot of folk. and then the woman outside the courthouse shooting that we had a few years ago, where brian nichols was on the run, and shot several people in the courthouse, and then killed someone in the following days. and she could not help with think about that today. i certainly thought about it, as i had to leave home to go pick up my kids today. >> andrew, you talked about the hunt for the son i have brothers and the boston bombing, i just watched a documentary about that. and it was remarkable to relive that and realize in a -- courthouse, and then killed someone in the following days. and she could not help with think about that today. i certainly thought about it, as i had to leave home to go pick up my kids today. >> andrew, you talked about the hunt for the son i have brothers and the boston bombing, i just watched a documentary about that. and it was remarkable to relive

that and realize in a case like this that police must get so much conflicting information from the public of, we are, well, i saw somebody here. and you don't know. you have to follow up all these leads. >> that's absolutely right. one of the challenges for law enforcement on a day like today is that you ask for the public 's assistance. you try to crowd source your assistance intelligence collection in a way. and what you get is a lot of information in a lot of tips. most of them are not relevant. but you have to go through every single one. so, in order to sort through these things quickly and effectively, it just takes an enormous amount of people focused on the same objective. and, of course, every place that the police, the boots on the ground, have to search, they never know if they are going to come across somebody who has been killing people earlier in the day. so they have to be careful and deliberate, and make sure they are safe about doing that. so, it's very challenging, a challenging set of

circumstances for the law enforcement folks. >> yeah. gary tuchman is standing by. gary, i want to remind our viewers what we are looking at now, where they are seeing on the side of the screen. you are seeing a number of police vehicles and other unmarked vehicles leaving the scene where this person -- yes, i know -- we are the person, where the person was captured. gary, i don't know if you can hear me -- are these live pictures? okay. we are looking at live pictures. so, you can actually see gary tuchman there on the side. he's the great hair guy trying to talk to authorities. gary, i'm assuming you don't have i ate the ifb. gary doesn't, he's out of range. -- talk to a police officer they are about 15 minutes or so ago, who learned from that police officer that he had in fact apprehended them. you can see some other people standing on the side of the road, giving the thumbs up to law enforcement as they drive by. john, what goes into a man hunt like this?

you talked about all the different agencies that are involved. but just the coordinating of all those agencies. when you have so many police officers descending on an area, it can cause problems. >> it can. and you don't want to have a blue on blue situation, which is plainclothes people all in one area that can cause confusion. but this was very well coordinated. i kind of echo what andy mccabe says, which is that every manhunt is different. if you look at the hunt for the tsarnaev brothers -- think of the chelsea bomber. we had his name. we had his picture. and we had rush hour coming up. and we had a guy who was targeting train stations. he blasted that out to the public on the same system you used when they say there is a storm coming and the idea that we could -- every 50 miles. think of last year and just a little more than a year ago to new york city, of frank james, who shot up the subway, and wounded ten people. thank god didn't kill anybody -- we were able to identify him by a piece of paper he left behind.

and we did the same thing atlanta did. the minute we have his picture, we pushed it out with his name and said, as andy mccabe said, crowd source it. you have 3000 detectives looking for him. and i could have 8. 4 million people looking for him. i will take the 8. 4 million people. atlanta did a great job using the pictures from the video at the scene. he's wearing a hood and a mask. he's hard to identify. but then going back to his driver's license photo, and said, this is what he looks like without a mask. this is the guy you will probably recognize. >> gary tuchman is standing by now. gary, we saw you there, seeing the police vehicles, trying to talk to people. did you hear anything? what did you see? >>. >> yeah, anderson, i was talking to the police officers, most of them from the cobb county police department, if the suspect is in one of their cars and is going to the police station right now -- they say he is still inside this complex, the weatherford place accomplish apartment complex, which is in cobb

county, 11 miles north of where the shootings happened, midtown atlanta. we counted between 25 and 30 police vehicles that came out of there. there are still some inside of. there we know there are a lot because about an hour ago, kind of i counted 100 police officers vehicles to our south. that was the report the police caught from video cameras, that they look, they saw this man go into an apartment complex that was under construction. that was a few blocks away. they got a tip of a suspicious man was inside this apartment complex at waterford place, complex in this upscale neighborhood in cobb county. and that was indeed where they found him and that is indeed where he still is as we speak. anderson? >> gary, as i said to our viewers, we are turning into a press conference in a minute or two. we are told it will be at a 15 pm. that's a little less than 2:50 minutes from now. we will try to bring that to you live. mayor bottoms, while the manhunt was ongoing, the atlanta police chief said that

the cameras across the city were really instrumental in helping tracked the suspect, identify license plates. can you talk a little bit about the surveillance capabilities around your city? >> yes. it's very intricate camera network, anderson. and, as you know, atlanta is the center of a very large metropolitan area. and the great thing is that there is often coordination with law enforcement even in the city of atlanta itself. in that midtown area you had georgia state university, including some georgia tech police. you had atlanta police. georgia state patrol and the martyr police. several different agencies -- and then when you expand that, the fulton county sheriff's office, you get into cobb county. well, because we host large events in atlanta like the super bowl, we often coordinate and work together and it doesn't surprise me that there was immediate coordination and joint effort and this area is

right near where the main interstate, 75 to 85, that runs through downtown atlanta. and you can jump on very easily from that location and head north into cobb county. and so, it's an intricate, very expensive camera network, in and around the city. and also, it's great coordination, constant coordination, with law enforcement throughout the metropolitan area. >> i just want to remind our viewers, we have been told that the press conference maybe has slid a few minutes. so, we are going to take a quick break. we expect to hear from atlanta police about the capture of this shooting suspect tonight. stay with us. we will be right back after this break. ♪ (electronic music) ♪

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mar-a-lago. and that the grand jury's expected to hear tomorrow from the father and son executives at the trump organization. two guys named matthew calamari senior and junior. cnn senior crime and justice reporter katelyn polantz has the exclusive and joins us now. so, what more are you learning more about these latest moves by jack smith? >> well, anderson, paula reid and i were able to confirm from many sources that it is quite clear that prosecutors are asking questions about the handling of surveillance tapes. and conversations that would have taken place about those surveillance tapes at a time last year when the justice department -- wanted access to them. so, we are talking about surveillance tapes at mar-a-lago in florida that would have been owned by the trump organization, donald trump's resort. and these were tapes that the justice department was demanding that they see last year as they were looking at whether they were documents being kept in florida. and so they sent a subpoena for those tapes. and now we know the prosecutors

are looking at that episode of time -- this is before the fbi went in and searched the property. because on those tapes, ultimately, they were able to see boxes being moved. but the questions now are about the tapes themselves and it's just another leg of this investigation. and there is going to be grand jury activity, we know, tomorrow, where the two men, matthew calamari and his son matthew calamari jr. are expected to be testifying to the grand jury. >> the calamari's names have popped up on and off throughout the last couple of years. can you just remind our viewers about the role of the that's because lamar's play in the trump organization? >> yeah, these are two very senior people, very close to donald trump and his business empire. they are working out of new york. matthew calamari sr., he's an executive vice president, and the chief operating officer. he became a person of interest in that new york investigation around the trump organization and their business dealings. he is somebody whose lifestyle,

his apartment, his car, is subsidized by the trump organization. and his son, matthew calamari, jr. is the director of security for the trump organization. and so these two people, clearly are the people that would be responsible for the surveillance tapes that are owned by the organization, and then ultimately were turned over to the justice department. >> cnn's previously reported that another close aide to the former president was seen on camera moving boxes containing documents out of the mar-a-lago storage closet. to be clear, what we are talking about tonight is a separate inquiry into how the surveillance footage itself was handled, right? >> that's right, anderson. so, we are getting a taste, though, that that person -- that person is named walt not the heat -- he works for trump, he is on his payroll, works for donald trump, travels with donald trump quite often. this is all sort -- of -- it might have a question right. so, walter now the, we've seen on those surveillance tapes leaving with -- and we do know that the calamari's, one of the things they are being asked about his

is potential conversations with people in the trump world, people like potentially potentially waltonada -- between him, matthew calamari senior, that is part of this portion of the inquiry. so, there's a lot of things that could be potential obstruction cases that the justice department is investigating, the special counsel is looking at. this is another leg of that possibility, of an obstruction case. anderson? >> katelyn polantz, appreciate it. joining me now cnn senior legal analyst and former federal prosecutor elie honig. so, how big a deal of it is that the special counsel office is reportedly looking into the -- issue? >> and it's in, this tells me, months ago -- prosecutors here are squarely focused on obstruction of justice. it's important to understand why this surveillance video is so important. because the underlying case about the handling of these classified documents really depends on where were these documents stored, where were the actual boxes, who had access, and were they moved? this video footage from inside mar-a-lago would presumably be the best possible evidence of that.

and anderson, one really important details caitlin polantz's reporting is that this is a new round of subpoenas. and this tells me that prosecutors, in what they had already gathered, saw something about this footage that made them say, hold on, there's a problem here. now we need to dig into this. >> what kind of evidence with would the special counsel needs in order to send out this latest round of subpoenas? >> so, they would need some evidence. they would need some bases basis to send the subpoenas. they would need some way indicating to them that either this footage was tampered with or withheld. what types of evidence that they are looking? for i think that it testimony from the two individuals that we are talking about, the two calamari's, is going to be crucial to figure out who downloaded, essentially, who access that video footage, who is responsible for turning it over to doj and, then, is there are a gap there? >> so, how concerned, do you think, the former president would be about the calamari's going before the grand jury tomorrow? >> so, as caitlin polantz's reminds us, they are absolutely insiders in the trump org. on the other hand, they have repeatedly shown that they are loyal to donald trump, they have refused to --

flip on him in in the various financial investigations that were happening in the state. so, we will see. i presume prosecutors have real, tangible evidence that they can cross examine or question these individuals with in front of the grand jury. they are under oath. prosecutors, i don't think, are going to bring these two images hope for the best. i think they're going to have the goods to backup whatever they are asking about. >> all right, elie honig, we appreciate it. we are waiting for police press conference in atlanta about the capturing of the suspected atlanta mass shooter. also tonight a proposed a drone strike on the kremlin. was it a ukrainian attempt on vladimir putin's life? a false flag? or something else? there's new reporting on who might have been responsible for -- cia former man in charge of russian operations. my relationship with my credit cards wasn't good. i got into debt in college, and no matter how much i paid, it followed me everywhere. the high interest... i felt trapped.

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>> as we wait for atlanta police to talk -- we are going to go overseas to russia, the video of a purported drone strike on the kremlin that you are about to see is almost unimaginable given the location and security surrounding it. take a look. coming in from the upper left hand corner of the frame, some sort of projectile, which then seems to explode above the domed roof. russia claims it was a drone strike and an attempt on vladimir putin's life. they blame ukraine. ukraine has denied it publicly. and american officials late

today say they had done the same privately to the white house, explicitly, according to one of those officials. in the meantime, cnn's matthew chance has new reporting on another theory of who may be behind it. he joins us now from london. what did you learn, matthew? >> yeah, anderson, i it's astonishing pictures those are, aren't they? tonight, a former russian lawmaker is telling me that he has direct information that this drone incident was not the work of ukraine. it was not even a false flag operation, but instead, it was the work of partisan russian groups fighting against the russian state. take a listen. is this the moment russia's war in ukraine finally struck home? two drone attacks on the kremlin minutes apart, leaving smoke, billowing from the historic buildings, and an extraordinary scene of vulnerability. at the heart of the russian state. it was hours before kremlin controlled tv announced the

news, in the form of an official statement, blaming ukraine. last night, the kyiv regime attempted a drone strike against a residence of the president of the russian federation the, statement reads. we view these actions as a planned terrorist attack and an assassination attempt, adding that russia reserves the right to take countermeasures wherever and whenever it deems appropriate. amid calls in russia for an overwhelming military response, ukraine's president, visiting finland, is distancing his country from the incident. >> we don't attack putin or moscow. we fight on our territory, we are defending our -- villages and cities. we don't have enough weapons for this. >> more likely a false flag operation or local resistance

forces in russia, say ukrainian officials, that are responsible for this. in recent weeks, even days, have seen an upsurge in unexplained attacks inside russian territory. , like this train derailment in the bryansk region, near the ukrainian border. all of this key oil storage facility in southern region russia -- set ablaze also using the drone, causing significant disruption. one former russian lawmaker now in exile and linked with groups carrying out operations in russia tells cnn the kremlin attack is the work of what he calls russian partisans. >> -- some of them are focused on sabotage and some of them -- between our sons of military equipment -- some of them doing attacks on active -- activists, pro wore activists, some of them doing -- attacks.

>> or any of these partisans supported by the ukrainian special services, for instance? because ukraine says it has got nothing to do with this attack. do you believe that claim? >> look, ukraine indeed has nothing to do with us. because it's all organized by russians. >> but whoever is responsible is -- a threat. at the moment, preparations are continuing for the annual may the 9th victory day parade in red square near where the drone struck. but the weakness and the insecurity of the kremlin has now been exposed for all to see. >> joining matthew chance now -- cnn national security analyst steve hall, a former head of operations that the cia. steve, how stunning is it to see those explosions and what do you make of them? who do you think is the blame? >> yeah, it's certainly a stunning revelation. anderson -- and i think matthew's reporting is fascinating. i think you have to ask who benefits from this. and for that reason i would cast a lot of doubt on the idea that it's the russians

themselves, sort of a false flag type of thing. because they don't need any excuse to do what they are already doing in ukraine. so, that then takes it to the ukrainians or perhaps one of these partisan or guerrilla forces inside, which would truly be astounding. because the fsb -- the internal security service on the russian side -- spends so much time dragging down those kinds of people, for them to do something like that, it's pretty incredible and they would certainly benefit. so with the ukrainians, sewing that kind of fear right up -- before the celebrations at the -- parades and -- so fourth -- end of world war ii and causing fear. that's a big deal as well. so, my money is on one of those last two options. >> matthew, is there any indication that there would be an actual investigation by the russians instead of who is responsible for this? >> well, i mean, look, if it isn't a false flag operation, i imagine the russian security forces are working overtime to try to get to the bottom of how on earth they missed this. because whether this was the ukrainians, whether was a partisan group or whatever else,

this has really expose the gaping holes in russian security in the days ahead, the six days before the victory day parade which is going to be held in exactly that spot where the drone struck, and so there will be some serious questions, i expect, being asked tonight, if this is real, of the security services as to what went wrong. >> steve, there have been a number of -- they have been some targeted assassinations of a blogger, the daughter of a pro putin war supporter, that we saw the train derailment -- is there -- has anyone proven that ukraine has capabilities to operate deep inside of russia? >> i don't know that anybody has proven it publicly. i would imagine that nato and u.s. intelligence services have a pretty good idea as to what their capabilities are. we have seen them attack the curt straight street bridge, we have seen them attack other things inside of russia and crimea that seem to make sense for the ukrainians. but matthew talks about the

gaps in the security. i would argue that it's also a significant gap in society in russia, if what you have got it's a guerrilla operation working against the kremlin. that does not happen very often in russia. and that is something that is really going to send a chill down the spine of putin and others in the kremlin if it is indeed true. >> yeah, obviously, there is a history of partisans in the former soviet -- pre-soviet union days and stuff. the idea that there would be active partisans in russia today is just -- i mean, matthew, does that ring true to you? >> you are right. it's very hard to sort of get your head around it in a society that is so controlled as russia, the idea that there are hundreds, if not thousands of people that are operating as partisan groups carrying out these kinds of attacks against the russian state is difficult to comprehend. and it would be, and major, is, a major concern, i think, for the kremlin -- but nevertheless, we are seeing a series of unexplained

incidents, attacks on army recruitment centers, assassinations of semi political figures or pro-russian propaganda figures, attacks on railway installations, oil installations, things like that, the drone attack on the kremlin. clearly, someone is carrying these out. they can't all be false flag operations. and so i think it is difficult to -- we will out that there are individuals, whether they are russians, or russians backed by the ukrainian special services or something operating in russia is pretty clear. >> yeah. matthew chance and steve hall i, i appreciate it. thank you, as -- coming up, as we wait hear from police in atlanta on a mass -- new york times has obtained a text message that they say is from david carlson from after the january 6th attacks said to a fox producer and containing an undeniably racist comment. its discovery may have contributed to fox firing tucker carlson, and we will talk to the reporter who helped break the story. that's next.

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>> police in atlanta are still expected to hold a press conference shortly on the rest tonight into today's mass shooting. other news first, though. the new york times has obtained

the text messages as -- fox producer in the hours -- after rioters stormed the capitol on january 6th. according to the times, quote, the discovery of the message contributed to a chain of events that ultimately led to mr. carlson's firing. it contains a racist statement -- and i'm going to read the text message as the times quotes it. quote, a couple of weeks ago, i was -- this from tucker carlson, allegedly -- a couple of weeks ago i was watching a video of people fighting in the street in washington. a group of trump guys surrounded an antifa kid and started pounding the living s out of him. it was three against one at least, jumping a guy like that is dishonourable, obviously. it's not how white men fight. yet, suddenly, i found myself rooting for the mob against the man, hoping it would hit him harder, kill him. i really wanted him them to hurt the kid. i could taste it. then, somewhere deep in my brain, an alarm went off. this isn't good for me. i'm becoming something i don't want to be. the antifa -- is a human being, much what i despise what he says and does, much as i'm sure i'd hate him personally if i knew him, i should not gloat over his

suffering. i should be bothered by it. i should remember that somewhere, somebody probably loves this kid and would be crushed if he was killed. if i don't care about those things -- if i reduced people to their politics, how am i better than he is? jay rultenberg was one of the reporters on the times piece and i talked to him earlier. >> jim, have you heard anyone either inside or outside of fox express surprise that -- he's racist and violent language and violent communications, obviously, the public saw some of his unredacted communication in the dominion court filings, and certainly, he's -- pretty history of pretty awful -- >> no one is saying that they are shocked in the context of his show, that he would say something like this. everything we are being told is very specifically in the context of what was happening at that moment. a jury is coming together in delaware, of diverse background. 1.6 billion dollars are at stake. tucker carlson, who is a

fraction of the evidence in this -- case -- his show is not a major part of the evidence in this case -- he's playing an outsized role. and here is a text that is certain to show up in court and inflame eight jury. so, it's all in the context of what is happening at that moment, less so whatever you may or may not see on his show. >> is it clear to you how much this particular message contributed, not just his firing, but also to the settlement that fox made with dominion? because, as you said, the negotiators from fox were already in settlement talks when the message was discovered. >> obviously, a lot is going on at this moment. and this is one thing that is going on at that moment. but let's think about this. the board is asking questions. there are shareholder lawsuits. the company, at the same, time does not want to see any of it stars have to testify, any of its stars be cross-examined. it does not want its founding chairman, rupert murdoch, cross-examined, there are a lot of reasons they want to avoid this. but this text being an 11th hour discovery, certainly, on

the board, and we are told, -- this is coming to light in a series of talks that will result in a record settlement cost, of 787 point $5 million, almost a billion dollars. so, we know the context. we are told it is definitely adding to pressure. it is in the mix. i think a lot is going on at this moment. >> according to your reporting, as you said, came to light during the discovery process of the case. why would fox lawyers not have alerted the fox board to something so incendiary? >> well, that's a question that we still would like to know ourselves. this came up in deposition. listen, the lawyers were already handling these materials -- they get handed over, right? so, lawyers know they exist. we are trying to figure out why that is. but i'm also told in speaking to other lawyers involved in similar cases that things fall through. these things happen. and let's find out. we are going to keep reporting

to see who did know about it, who didn't know about it. and more of what role it played -- but either way, as we have it, this comes to light, on the board level, late, and it's coming to light at a very critical time in these talks. >> yeah, it's extraordinary reporting. jim rutenberg, thank you so much. >> thanks so much. >> joining me now for more this is cnn political commentator van jones, and former special president obama. van, went across and says it's not how white men fight, what goes through your mind? >> a couple things. history shows that's exactly how wightman fight, if you want to talk about the history of brutalization of people of color ganging up on people, lynching people. so, his history is wrong. but it's not just his history. his heart is wrong. this is a moment of private self reflection were -- enlightened, and even there he -- even there he is a disgusting little racist.

even there he can't figure out categorizing people in the way he's categorizing them is wrong. and so, i think a lot of us had hoped that the tucker carlson you saw on tv was more of an act for ratings. but this shows, even in the privacy of his own home, talking to his friends, tucker carlson is a racist. he is a white supremacist. what is a white supremacist? somebody thinks that white people are superior to black people. he thinks the way that white people fight is the way -- to the way -- we engage in fisticuffs. that's the thing. >> the idea that tucker carlson knows anything about fighting or has ever been near a fight is ludicrous. >> it's pretty ludicrous. >> and the implication is, well, it is black people who gang up on poor individuals. that white people fight like old gentlemen with fisticuffs

in london rules, or whatever it's called. >> look, it gives you a sense of how deep this sickness goes. when we talk about white supremacy, it's a term you very rarely hear me say. because it's an incendiary term. but it has a meaning. it means that i think white people and white culture is superior to non white culture. and here is an instance of it. in the ton of it he is trying to be self reflective. but he honestly believes that white people fight like fisticuffs like in the cartoons, and black people fight like savages. when in fact the history shows the opposite. that is what we are dealing with. >> the casualness with which he said that, i don't know why it i found it stunning. but i did. and i imagine, does he say that to his children? is that something he would say to his kids? oh, honey, white people don't fight like that. how can he look at his family with that dirt in his mouth? >> it is a glitch in the matrix

that is shocking, it is also confirming. if you are a person of color you always feel like you are somehow being, you know, brainwashed, or i forget the term, where it's like, you are being -- people telling me stuff that's not true, when you know it must be true. when you have someone like tucker carlson on television and there is a massive movement behind him, this is still maybe the one, two, three top republican voices in the country. and this is how he thinks. and so when you are sitting here and you are like, guys, i think that racism and what's very messy is alive and well in the country, and people tell you, oh, jeez, you are being woke, and shut up, what are you talking about? it was 100 years ago. listen, tucker carlson thinks that white people fight in a more civilized way than black people. literally, that's what he thinks. and that is obviously not true. again, the history of lynching.

the history of white mob violence is a bigger source of terror in the history of this country than anything that has ever come out of, the 9/11 situation was horrible, but can you imagine 300 years of that, every day. that is the terror that black people lived under out of fear of white mob violence. that is a history of our country that we are still trying to overcome. he somehow missed all that. he somehow missed all of that. and that is why i think that on this particular text i think probably did lead to a faster resolution of this case. because this is the kind of stuff that is disgusting. there is no upside on this text. >> van jones, i appreciate you being with us, thank you. just ahead, we still expect to here from atlanta police tonight on the mass shooting arrest and a late update from our gary tuchman about how the arrest went down.

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>> -- we had great community members who are calling us and giving us information. we have a 9-1-1 center -- >> you've been listening to atlanta police in cobb county, law enforcement, on the shooting and man hunt just unfolded for nearly eight hours. the suspect that was wanted for the shooting of five in atlanta medical building earlier in the day is now in police custody. authorities say the 24-year-old

deion patterson was a coast guard. that he was arrested this evening in cobb county, georgia, in a condominium complex. patterson is accused of killing one and injuring four others after just afternoon local time inside a waiting room of a northside hospital facility in midtown atlanta. so, let's go straight to gary tuchman, who is in atlanta for us. gary, you have been at the scene of this capture. what do you make of what police have revealed and what are you learning form your sources about how this all transpired? >> all right. we can give you additional information that you have not heard it from the news conference. this man was captured in this waterford place condo community, it's a gated community. it's an upscale community. because people had heard already that it is likely that this man was in cobb county, georgia -- 11 miles northwest of where that shooting had happened -- everybody was being on alert. and we just talked to a woman inside. we walked inside the complex. and she told me that she heard

two dogs barking inside, very loudly -- heard embark before, but they kept parking. and she was suspicious. so, then she thought, i wonder if this man, who is on the loose, could be in the gondola in the pool area. it was a hunch she had. she called the police. the police rushed in. we were following those police. they came inside the complex we just waited outside here. and these women tell us -- and they may say this later in the news conference, what you are hearing it first from me -- these women tell us that police went to the pool and gondola and then started yelling, get down, get down. people in the community heard that, and stayed in their house. it turns out the woman's hunch was right, that this man was found at the pool area in this condo complex, was put under arrest, and about 50 minutes ago was taken in a cobb county police car out of the gates. and he is now under arrest. >> wow. that is really incredible. we heard from police just a few moments ago. they were getting a lot of calls about this. some of them knock the suspect.

but one of them, this one, was in fact the suspect. gary tuchman, thank you. going now to ryan young, who is in atlanta. so, brian, what more do we know about the status of the victims? >> yeah, that is the big concern tonight. and this, the question -- of course, we got the update from grady hospital a little early on about what was going on in terms of some of the people who were shot, and we're still in critical condition, and going through surgery. of course, grady hospital is a level one trauma center that is nearby this location that they were transferred to. you heard the police chief talk about the idea that the firefighters and the ems warm this area, despite the fact that they are we still, it may be, an active shooter in the location, getting those people out of here, to the hospital, where the facility behind me is where this man came to earlier on in the day with his mother -- apparently seeking some medical attention -- we know he was a member of the coast guard. and at some point he became very upset on the inside of this building, and started shooting. and five people were hit. and unfortunately, one woman

lost her life. we talk about that response from police. it's through the video camera network that is all throughout the city. they were able to get the images out there to the public. that really helped. and you talk about the crowd sourcing of information that happened throughout the day. they were concerned about all the parking garages that are behind me. because they were scared that someone could steal a car. so, they were shutting those down. you heard the police chief say that basically, they know he got a car that was running in a -- gas station that was nearby, and then he went to cobb county. and then you have the elaborate camera network that sort of linked all the cameras together that was able to help track him down to the area. so, you really see all the efforts that police put into finding this man is quickly as possible. >> yeah, very much so. ryan young, thank you very much. and earlier, georgia senator raphael warnock spoke on the floor of the senate about his personal connection to this tragedy.

>> -- and georgia's democratic senator, reverend raphael warnock joins us now. senator warnock, thank you for joining us. i want to first get your reaction to the breaking news of the capture of the suspect in the case. what more can you tell us about that? >> will, thank you so very much. it's good to be with you on this very sad day in atlanta. of course, we are heartened to hear that the suspect