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we are following breaking news this hour. a verdict has been reached in the seditious conspiracy trial against five members of the proud boys. this trial really considered the center piece, the marquee of the prosecutions brought by the justice department surrounding the actions leading up to and on january 6th. cnn's katelyn polantz is outside the courthouse. she's joining me once again. katelyn, what's the latest you're hearing from inside the room? >> reporter: kate, we really are moments away from knowing what the result of this long, long trial, this long prosecution by the justice department is at
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this moment in time the jury is reading the verdicts that they have reached in the courtroom. we have a team watching this right now. and what is happening here, what is at stake here is that this is the case against the five leaders of the proud boys, people that the justice department have accused of not just wanting to have a war against the u.s. government after the 2020 election, after donald trump's loss but then going to the capitol on january 6th, revving up the crowd and being what the justice department says was the tip of the spear of the crowd of trump supporters that broke into the capitol. the defense team have tried to distance these men, these five men on trial from donald trump even though the former president during his candidacy told the proud boys stand back and standby at a public debate. but the defense has said there was no plan, there was no conspiracy, and we are waiting right now to see exactly what the jury has decided after seven
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days of deliberation. >> all right, katelyn's going to listen in as this is happening literally as we speak. katelyn is going to jump back up as we learn more about this partial verdict. sarah? >> thank you so much, kate. we now are going to talk to cnn legal analyst elliott williams who's here with us. you see this coming down. they say this is a partial verdict. explain exactly what that means because there are a lot of charges here, and there are five defendants. >> there's a lot of charges. it's five defendants, and not every defendant is charged with every crime. my guess -- and we'll find this out in a few minutes -- is that they probably reached a verdict on some of the counts and might have hung on some of the other counts. and when you have jurors hanging on counts that means they could not come to a unanimous agreement on those charges, and the jury is considered a hung
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jury. if that's the case, the justice department can choose to bring those charges again down the road. that's a decision the attorney general and his advisers would have to make. so my guess they were able to find unanimity in some cases. but as you said it's complicated both with the number of charges and the number of people and their relative different level of conduct. we'll just have to say where they landed on all of this. >> we are going to go. we're going to hold you here, elliot. thank you so much. we're going to go to katelyn polantsz who is outside the court getting information from our two people inside the court. what are you hearing, katelyn? >> reporter: well, four proud boys leaders have been found guilty by a jury of seditious conspiracy in a major case that the justice department brought after january 6th. those include enriquec tarrio, the leader of the proud boys who
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was not in washington, d.c. on january 6th, so that makes him very unique among the january 6th defendants. but the jury has found the government proved these men wanted to overthrow the u.s. government or hinder it somehow by force. the jury has also found that the other three men are guilty of additional charges, other conspiracy charges. there is one person on trial, though, a man named dominic pazolla. he was seen breaking a window at the capitol and was accused of using a riot shield to break that window. there haven't been verdicts read about dominic pazola at this time, but the four men convicted -- the four men found guilty by the jury today enrique tarrio as well as zachary reel, eethens biggs those are the ones the justice department is accusing them of planning together and moving on january 6th in a way that essentially in
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the prosecutor's words was trying to start a war in the united states. >> wow, that a really important verdict. you said four people, and that includes the leader of the proud boys, enrique tarrio, who has stepped down and he wasn't there. so this is quite significant to see this verdict come out. >> historic we could say. joining us now cnn chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller. john, we're going to learn more in the next couple of minutes about exactly who was convicted of which charge here. but the big picture here there have been convictions on seditious conspiracy for the proud boys. talk to me about the significance of that, about what this means for domestic extremism in this country. >> well, this follows the case of the oath keepers where you saw similar verdicts against another group that organized and showed up in a coordinated fashion on january 6th. so this is sending a signal that
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there are serious consequences to domestic groups that decide to interfere with the workings of democracy. that's -- that's the big signal. i think the extension of that question is what happens to groups like the oath keepers and the proud boys. do they survive this? do they go away? do they gain strength from people who want to be part of this resistance? the proud boys has an interesting history is that it was started as a joke by gavin mcguinness as kind of a satire of male chauvinism and patriotism and then got away with him when they started actually having fights with antifa groups. a number of proud boys were arrested when i was in the nypd intelligence bureau for attacking antifa protesters outside a republican club. they were convicted and faced jail time. that was when gavin mcguinness
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distanced himself from the group, when the group found new leadership that took it from being a satire to being kind of an alt-right fight club, the white version. and, you know, in washington just days before january 6th in a december rally they ended up in a fight with suspected antifa people on the street. enriq enrique tarrio was arrested for possession of a knife and magazines containing ammunition, which is why he wasn't there on january 6th. he was in a hotel room in baltimore. you've seen this group also grow into an international organization. canada has listed it as a terrorist group. >> as you're describes how it started is also almost how the defense team tried to present their case in court. i think the way they tried to present it at times was a glorified drinking club. and also i thought important as we have seen in other
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prosecutions related to january 6th trying to put this on the feet of donald trump saying that that was not these guys, it was donald trump. in closing arguments i think it was enrique tarrio's attorney saying tarrio was a scapegoat for trump and those in power, and that's what doj was trying to do. that turn in all of this when it comes to the defense teams and how they tried to turn this and say, no, this really was on donald trump and how all of these people are scapegoats because of it is interesting. >> it is interesting because go back to the oath keepers trial. and the oath keepers is a running joke the proud boys -- these are former military, former law enforcement, people with training, that's how they, you know, had that bearing with their tactical gear and communication systems. but the proud boys, you know, were on the receiving end of, you know, that message from donald trump, stand back and standby. standby for what? and after the message that he
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gave about protesters should come to washington, you know, that went out on december 19th. we're going to have a wild protest, the proud boys formed a subgroup called the ministry of defense, and enrique tarrio was the head of that. they were looking for tough guys. they were looking for fighters. they setup an encrypted chat app, and all of this is kind of the evidence that was promoted at -- that was brought before the trial by the prosecution to say there was an organization behind this, there was premeditation, there was a system. >> and that is why enrique tarrio is one of the four found guilty in this because it was about the planning not necessarily about the execution. there were other charges for that. i want to go straight back out to katelyn polantz who is outside the court with more details for us now. katelyn? >> reporter: sarah, i'm getting a live read out of what the jury is reading in the courtroom, the verdicts that they have come to,
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and they actually have reached a verdict on many of the counts, maybe just one or two they have not reached a verdict on. we're still waiting because they're still reading. but all five proud boys who are on trial, who have been on trial for several months have been found guilty by this jury on various charges. there are some charges where some of the leaders have been found not guilty specifically related to assaulting officers, but all five men there have been convictions that are being secured by the justice department. right now first and foremost seditious conspiracy four of these men. enrique tarrio the leader of the proud boys, zachary neal -- all four of those men are found guilty of seditious conspiracy, a plot potentially to overthrow the government on january 6th after the 2020 election. and i was just looking back at what we have learned from this trial. and one of the things -- i
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wanted to read one of the things that the prosecutor had argue today the jury and the jury clearly agreed with after listening to all this evidence seeing video, seeing audio, seeing text messages between these men this was an issue where the capitol was the focus from the start, the prosecutor said. they were there to threaten and if necessary use force to stop the certification of the election. and when capitol police officers were testifying, and when their audio recordings were playing in court when they were calling for backup on the capitol as the proud boys and others were entering into the capitol breaking windows, the prosecutors say those radios are the sound of a 200-year tradition of the peaceful transfer of power being shattered. quite a historic moment in bringing to justice men who took part and were interested in the violence on january 6th.
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>> all right, katelyn, we'll let you listen more. fill us in when you get more information. meanwhile john miller is literally right next to me working his sources as we speak. in the meantime i want to go to cnn justice correspondent evan perez in washington. surprise appearance from elliot williams there, attorney. seditious conspiracy charge is a surprising charge and something prosecutors wanted. talk to me about the significance of that effort and the convictions. >> right, it's a very rarely brought charge for the justice department. as a matter of fact, you know, some of the -- you know, this case and some of the others focusing on some of the leading figures that you saw in the violence on january 6th, some of these cases began under the trump administration before the new -- the new administration
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took over. and for a while it appeared there was some doubt inside the justice department about whether these cases on seditious conspiracy were going to go forward. in the end the attorney general reviewed all the cases, and he made sure he believed that the evidence was there, and that's when they brought these charges. in all, you know, they've targeted a number of oath keepers, i think 29 oath keepers in all have been -- have been prosecuted in these cases. again, the focus here has been on the people who carried out the violence, the people who you see in all of those videos, you know, just harrowing videos from the officer's body cameras showing them attacking police officers for hours. and in the case of these five men, the proud boys, this is a marquee trial for the justice department. again, we're going to wait to see some of the verdicts that we have not yet gotten details on. but for the justice department getting the seditious conspiracy
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guilty verdicts on at least four of these men is a big deal. again, it's something that the justice department thought long and hard because of obviously the political overtones of this. but, you know, you have to look back on january 6th and realize that what the former president and some of these people who thought they were his foot soldiers were trying to do was impede the transfer of power. that's what the justice department really emphasized during this trial. >> john miller sticking here with us. john, you've been working your sources as well. what are you picking up on what happens to these guys now we've got these? >> well, you've got convictions to sentencing. there'll be probations that delve into their lives and history and son that their argues will argue. sedition and conspiracy that's a ten year count, that is jail time they're facing, and that's going to have an impact on
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questions for who's going to want to be in the leadership of the proud boys if they want to continue down this path? on the other hand, what we've seen in these groups as they morph and grow is national leadership can be largely irrelevant. we've seen proud boy chapters independently spawning in cities across the country. we have seen on our own broadcasts as we've covered the controversy around drag queen story hours, proud boys showing up in full military uniform with ar-15 rifles, loaded magazines in states where open carry is allowed. and lining the other side of the street where a library is where children are coming for these stories. so this is an organization that is growing on an idea and that is growing on a narrative and that is growing without national leadership. >> i just want to mention that i'm seeing now which of the four
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of the five who got what. and the reason why four of these members got seditious conspiracy is because they were leaders either of their chapter or the group at large. of course enrique tarrio and joseph biggs was a leader in the organization. one was a leader in philadelphia, the other a leader in florida. the jury looked at that and said if you are leading this organization from wherever part of the country you came from, you planned this, you plotted this, and you are guilty of seditious conspiracy. the only person interestingly that didn't get seditious conspiracy conviction, dominic pazolla, the person who used the officer's shield to smash through the window. >> that was the other charge he was facing, right? >> he faces other charges. and convicted of other charges. >> all right, let us go to elliot williams now. we're hearing now also that the judge has told this jury who's given this verdict, partial
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verdict because it's not every single count, to go back to the jury room and continue to deliberate. how unusual is this, and what is the judge basically asking them to do? is it that they're deadlocked on something you think or what? >> not unusual at all, sarah. it is incredibly common for juries to say, look, we've tried, we've deliberate, we've talked about these charges but we simply can't point of unanimity on one or two or three of them. it happens i hesitate to say in every trial i did but happens quite frequently, right? the view of the court is, no, it is the obligation of the judge to ensure that the jurors get as close as they can to unanimity on every count. now, you can't force them to do that. but often when jurors think they're not unanimous, they can actually get there if they negotiate or debate more. typically you'll see them come back two or three or however many times saying they can't
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come to an agreement. and then usually it's after a few times of saying, look, wave got one or two hold outs in there we simply can't come to an agreement, it's then and only then the judge will declare a mistrial on those counts, and let the other verdicts that they came to move forward. >> that is very interesting. i should also mention i sat down with enrique tarrio several times but once for a very long period. and he, himself, said, look, i think people shouldn't have gone into the capitol. he didn't have any sympathy for what happened to the congress people who were there in dealing with this terrifying moment, but he did on camera say i don't think that our members should go into the capitol, and he said he did not plan this. so it is interesting because the evidence they have clearly the jury looked at 18 weeks of evidence and said, uh-uh, we don't believe you, you were part of this, you're going down for this as well. >> let's bring in evan perez, and we've been talking about the
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seditious conspiracy charge but obstruction of an official proceeding also a charge where there's been some convictions. bring us up to speed on what's going on there. >> john, on count two which is conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding the guilty verdicts were for nordean, biggs, reel and tarrio and pazolla there's been no verdict. that's what the judge is asking the jury to go back and see if they can reach a verdict on along with a couple of other charges they've reached no verdict on. it is untested. there have been some appeal courts -- one of the appeals courts has ruled it is a valid charge and it is something they've upheld. again, something that i think justice department officials were a little bit wary of and weren't sure whether the courts were going to uphold that what
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happened, what was happening at the capitol that day was an official proceeding. and, you know, so far, again, the courts have upheld it, but there are some more legal challenges that we expect to come from that charge. and that's an important one because, again, many of the people who went into the capitol where 1,000 people have been charged now, they've been charged now with this charge. and it's one of the things that prosecutors have really relied onto try to -- again, to try to make people who went into the building, some of them who carried out violence, for them to pay a price on what happened on january 6th. it is going to be interesting to see, again, in the coming months when we see additional challenges of this charge whether it holds up. for now the courts have ruled that it is okay for people to be charged with this for what they did on january 6th. and for now for today's verdict it appears that the jury has not
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been able to reach a verdict on dominic pazolla, who is one of the prominent faces you see in some of those videos that has been shown from january 6th. >> absolutely. evan, stick with us. john miller, stick with us. elliot williams, stick with us as well. we have much more coming in. the jury now back deliberating, but very importantly guilty of seditious conspiracy four members of the proud boys who have been on trial, a four-month long trial. the jury handing back a guilty verdict on the serious charge of seditious conspiracy. much more coming in from the courtroom. we'll be right back after this. ♪ ♪ (engine revsvs) ♪ the energy of light... everywhere. ♪ it just has a lot of control over me. ♪
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breaking at this hour at least four members of the proud boys have been found guilty of seditious conspiracy. this in connection to their actions on and around january 6th, 2021, and the attack on the capitol. our reporters and guests are back with us. katelyn polantz, we are going to go to you first. you are outside the court. you're getting information from inside the court. what more are you learning? . >> sarah, i'm learning the jury is going to be deliberating on just a couple things here, but the justice department has secured major convictions for all five members of the proud
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boys, leaders of the proud boys, and people who were leading the charge at the capitol on january 6th. those men are enrique tarrio, the chairman of the proud boys, zachary reel, joseph biggs, and dominic pazolla, a man who is seen in many image breaking into the capitol with a police riot shield in a window, climbing in there with what prosecutors say was the tip of it spear at the u.s. capitol, leading the rioters around the back of the building to get inside that really caused things to unravel that day for police that were trying to protect the building. and this prosecution and this conviction is so important because it is not just about what happened on january 6th, it is about the planning that the prosecutors are able to argue here and how they have been able to prove to the jury that these men wanted something like this to happen on january 6th, that the proud boys were coming together as a team and they wanted to create something similar to a war on the grounds
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of the u.s. capitol on january 6th. the prosecution has not yet gotten some sort of result on just a couple things, but those are relatively minor compared to the seditious conspiracy charge where the jury has decided that these men are guilty. there's just a few things where dominic pazolla, that man with the riot shield, there's not a verdict for him on a couple of counts. there was also the issue of a throwing of a water bottle and a charge to that that someone else in the crowd threw a water bottle. the jury has not reached a verdict on that. but that is really relatively compared to what the jury has found today and this is monumental for the justice department especially they were able to secure convictions for several of the oath keepers related to seditious conspiracy charges, too. now the oath keepers, the proud
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boys, those two groups that were at the capitol on january 6th and were interested in coming together planning, that they had suited up, that they were communicating to one another, juries are bringing them to justice in this federal court in d.c. >> all right, katelyn, standby for us at the courthouse. let me bring in evan perez on a couple of things. evan, count one was the charge on seditious conspiracy as we know. we've seen ten counts also on other charges that have been brought against some or all of these men that i wanted if you could just kind of run through what that -- what they mean but also as you've been following this so long and so closely what this day means for the justice department. >> well, i'll start there. for the justice department obviously these are major, major wins of getting convictions of at least four of these men. again, the jury is still going to be deliberating on dominic
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pazolla especially on the seditious conspiracy charge, which is count one, and to obstruct an official proceeding which is count two. again, we're going to learn more maybe in the coming days and weeks as to what may have been effective for the defense there. pa pazalla obviously as katelyn just described is the one seen breaking that senate window. it paved the way for a lot of the crowd to go in there. frankly, it coincided with the evacuation of mike pence. again, what prosecutors say was the key moment for impeding this proceeding which is key part of the transition of power. according to the jury at least they seem to not be able to reach a verdict on that. on the rest of the counts they found all five men guilty on a number of the other counts including one of the other counts of obstruction of an
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official proceeding, conspiracy to prevent an officer from discharging his duties. again, that's -- that's another charge all five of them have been guilty on. aiding and abetting, again five guilty verdicts on here. there's a couple of counts which is having to do with destruction of government property. again, dominic pazolla, it's obvious from the video that the jury found that compelling. there's a couple of counts where they seem to not be able to reach a verdict at all on any of them. and so those are the ones -- one of them is assaulting, resisting, and impeding certain officers. those are the counts that now the jury will go back and do some more deliberations. perhaps they can go over some of the testimony that they receive. pazolla testified in court
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himself and he said he was not in control of his own actions. and of course as sarah has pointed out, that, you know, that some of these defense attorneys blame all of this on donald trump and said that these men essentially were foot soldiers and were being directed to carry out these actions by the former president. guys? >> john miller, you know, as we sit here just reflect on the historic nature of this. the proud boys, many people first learned of the proud boys when the then-president of the united states in a televised debate that tens of millions of people were watching said stand back and standby. and then a month and a half, two months later the whole country was watching as the capitol was being stormed by now what we know some people were there, and now they've been convicted some on the highest charges, a very rare charge as you can imagine on seditious conspiracy.
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>> let's break that down. when the president of the united states on live national television ends sends a message to a group by name in response to a question. my message to the proud boys is, you know, stand back and standby -- standby for what? that would be taken by the proud boys as an incredible piece of validation. the president is naming us, we are working for him. interestingly it was part of the defense they used in court. we believed we were working for the country, not against the country, same defense that failed the oath keepers in their trial on the same charges. but, you know, if you peel back the layers it's interesting. you know, enrique tarrio, who's a convicted criminal, on december 12th went to visit the white house, the trump white house and was immediately flagged by the secret service. this individual has a criminal record. he's the leader of the proud boys. interesting on a week when a mayor from new jersey couldn't get in because he was on a watch list. and that went to the deputy
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chief of staff, a former secret service agent himself. and he was allowed to come on the grounds, take the white house tour, you know, be photographed there. the same day he was later arrested for setting fire to a black lives matter memorial in washington and arrested on other charges. so there was this feeling of connection there, which, you know, has now been validated by a jury which you do not go against the democratic process of the united states. that's what sedition is called. >> the jury heard a lot of evidence. i have seen some of it. it is, you know, a huge amount of evidence, which is why this trial lasted so long. but there were five people. four of them, all of the people convicted of seditious conspiracy led the group in some way, which is why that charge the jury decided worked and was proper for them. all right, thank you so much, john miller, evan perez, elliot
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okay, moments ago the man accused of opening fire in an atlanta medical center yesterday waived his right to his first court appearance. police say he killed one person and injured four others and evaded police for nearly 8 hours before he was caught. it started about 12:08 p.m. at the north state medical hospital building in atlanta. police say patterson started shooting in a waiting room. about 12 miles north of the city around 12:30 p.m. the suspect was spotted near the battery, where the atlanta braves play. after that there was a manhunt and he was spotted again this time by an undercover police officer at a condo complex. police say he was finally arrested at about 7:45 p.m. last
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night. cnn's nick valencia is in atlanta, so he waived his right to his first court apoerns what now? >> reporter: that's right, john. we were expecting to see deion patterson appear in court for his first court appearance, but last hour he waived that right so he's no longer expected to appear. he is charged with four counts of aggravated assault as well as one count of murder with the deceased being identified as amy st. pierre. st. pierre was a dedicated health professional, with a connection to emery university, employed by the cdc. and she was close friends with some of my wife's best friends. and i spoke to some of those friends earlier this morning and they're heartbroken, grieving her loss saying she was just a mother that looked forward to raising her small children. she liked taking them to the trampoline park, a magnetic and
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that's what hundreds of miles from where mayorkas is expected to be visiting, so what is he going to see during his visit? >> that's right, kate. homeland security secretary mayorkas will be visiting the south of texas which is some 800 miles away from the scenes of people on the streets in el paso, and what he is going to see is the challenge he himself has acknowledged as the number of migrants crossing the border begins to creep up. let me speak to numbers in the areas he's been have visiting. right now in the rio grande sector where he will be a homeland security official tells me there are around 5,000 migrants in custody. they're also dealing with over 2,000 daily encounters of migrants, so what do these numbers mean? it shows that the numbers are already creeping up and that the the facilities and the resources in this area in this area of the border are already under immense strain, and we're still days away from that covid era border
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restriction lifting. so the administration has been saying that there are preparing, and the white house has been keenly aware of the difficulty in the logistics of this but also the political challenges. now, i asked the white house press secretary just yesterday what their plans are and what they're projecting. she declined to give any specifics as to what it may look like on the ground after title 42 lifts, but here's what she said about what they're doing now. >> we have tools that are in front of us that the president's going to use to deal with what we are seeing at the border, and this is something that the president has taken initiative on since the beginning of this administration. and we want to do this in a safe, orderly, and humane way. >> and that safe, orderly, and humane way encompasses the short-term and the long-term. so the administration laying out preparations just operationally by building up capacity, bolstering transportation
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to try to expedite the asylum process since we see a lot of asylum seekers. all of these have come under criticism, but next week we'll see the toll they have the on the numbers. today and tomorrow they will be reviewing the i.c.e. planning and meeting with workforce on the ground. >> we have seen the video of the lines of migrants. we have seen the reporting on the numbers that could be waiting to come in once title 42 lifts. what is this scene going to be once this expires? >> the administration is i trying to avoid scenes like we saw in september of 2021. that was when we saw migrants primarily haitians under a bridge in del rio because they couldn't process them fast enough. so that's the scene they are trying to avoid. that means they have to focus on what they call decompression, which is making sure they are able to process the migrants crossing and then if they are deemed to not have an asylum
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claim, remove them quickly. so increasing flights to their origin countries or what they are going to do after striking an agreement with mexico, returning some nonmexican nationals back to mexico. so really the focus here is to process migrants and do that quickly. >> great reporting, thank you so much. there could be some important new testimony today in the mar-a-lago classified documents probe. source tell cnn prosecutors want to know about how video was handled after donald trump and his team received subpoenas last summer to turn the material over. the director of security for the trump organization, his father is on the right as the executive vice president and chief operating officer. both will go before a grand jury today. paula reed is following all of
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this. what can you tell us about why the special counsel is so interested in this particular security footage? >> rorgely, they were interested in the footage because it could help them understand what happened to classified materials once they were sent down to florida. among the things they have seen on this footage is a young trump aid and another employee moving boxes that contained documents out of a storage closet. we previously reported that walt has been asked about what exactly was going on there. they are not just investigating the possible mishandling of classified documents. they are looking at whether anyone has tried to obstruct this investigation. that's why this is significant that they are asking what exactly happened after they sent a subpoena asking for this footage. we know this interest has spurred a new round of subpoenas particularly to lower level trump organization employees who have gone in and they have been asked about what transpired within the trump organization after that subpoena was received.
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did anyone potentially try to tamper with that footage. we expect several new witnesses to go before the grand jury today. >> so i guess the question begs, why now? since they were over security, they had access to these videos? >> i was quite surprised when we learned from our reporting yesterday that matthew, someone who has been with the trump organization for decades, was coming before the grand jury. but our colleague and i learned what sparked their interest in him is a text message he received from walt asking him to talk. so they want to ask him about that text message. any conversations about the surveillance footage that happened thereafter. but as you noted, these are two top security officials at the trump organization. and it's really just striking to me that the special counsel is going this far in to trump's
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circle. but this investigation into what happened with the classified documents at mar-a-lago is far from over. >> he's known for being very thorough. thank you so much. live for nus washington. thank you so much for joining us today. it's been quite a day. >> a lot of breaking news. >> thank you all. this is "cnn news central." "inside politics" sup next. wake up, achievers. you're making the most of every hour of your life. except the hours that you're sleeping.g. so why do we leave so much ununtapped potential on the table? this is a next levelel bed, for a next level you. my circadian rhythm is kicking your circadian rhythm'm's butt! it's not a competition. i know, but i'm still winning! so it is a competition. of course. save $500 on our new next gen sleep number smart beds. plus, special financing. only at sleep number.
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hello and welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king in washington. very consequential news day. thank you for your time. guilty, the jury convicts five members of the proud boys for their actions on january 6th. four of the five are guilty of seditious conspiracy. all five defendants face significant prison time. plus the fog of war or
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