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>> reporter: but worries about the downside seem to hover everywhere. one issue in the hollywood writers strike, will ai take away some of their work. this whole technology is moving at such a breakneck pace right now, no one can say where it's going to be, even in the near future. but one study has indicated ai worldwide could affect up to 300 million jobs. pam? >> wow. tom foreman, thank you. and thank you for joining us tonight. "ac 360" starts right now. and good evening from london. in less than two days, and for the first time in nearly 70 years, this country will crown a new monarch. saturday morning, charles iii accompanied by queen camilla will make his way in procession from buckingham palace to westminster abbey for a ceremony last carried out for his mother, queen elizabeth ii back in june of 1953.
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70 years, in other words. for some, at least, this is literally a once in a lifetime event. people are certainly treating it that way. they've been camping out along the procession route, some for days now, wearing union jack, royal regalia and other patriotic knickknacks, young and old sleeping under tarps and tents on makeshift cots. around the city lanes to landmarks are decked in flags or lit up large for occasion. take a look at big ben there, 300 feet tall, embodying centuries of history as it's never been seen before. images of the national plants of england, scotland, wales and northern ireland projected on it. and words that had not been heard since 1952, "god save the king." not far from there, westminster abbey tight as it is all around the city, where saturday morning the king and queen will arrive in a coach built for the king's mother on the 60th anniversary of her coronation. there is certainly a lot to cover. that's a bit about the circumstances. let's talk more about the pomp and ceremony and the public
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relations of crowning a king. i'm joined tonight by cnn's max foster. what is the mood like in london as the preparations continue? >> charles isn't as popular a figure as his mother was, as his children are perhaps, but there is definitely excitement about the sense of history that you just outlined there. this is something we haven't seen for 70 years. when you talk about pomp and pageantry, something brits are known for, and that is peak pomp. >> peak pomp. ♪ >> reporter: more than a thousand years, the coronation ceremony for english monarchs has remained largely unchanged. ♪ king charles will walk into westminster abbey in the footsteps of his ancestors. ancient symbols like the stone of schoon, seized from scotland by king edward in the 13th century and used in coronations ever since, brought to london for saturday's event. the palace says he also wants to reflect modern britain and look to the future. the challenge will be how to do
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both during a cost of living crisis. charles will be crowned with the st. edwards crown, the same one placed on previous monarchs. crown jewels will feature including sceptors, a gold orb, each with their own symbolism. he'll wear robes that have been passed down through the generations. the anointing, the most sacred spiritual part of the service will be hidden from view by a special screen, one of the only newly made pieces for the coronation, because charles has always been known for his environmental campaigning, has been keen to emphasize reuse. ♪ he'll be welcomed to the abbey first by a young corister to whom he'll say i come not to be served, but to serve. inclusivity is at the top of his agenda. the ceremony will be conducted by the archbishop of canterbury,
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the most senior member of the church of england after the king. >> it looks round at our society and seeks to reflect us as we are, with joy and celebration. >> reporter: for the first time, people of multiple faiths will have a role. even the pope has sent a gift. fragments believed to be of jesus' cross, which have been incorporated into this new one which will lead the coronation proc procession. symbols the new monarch hopes will be enough to reflect his continued relevance in a modern world whilst honoring sacred tradition. >> and along with max foster tonight, we're joined by senior royal historian kate williams. max, is there an attempt to sort of make this more modern, or is this all about tradition? >> it's about both. so speaking of people in the palace, their starting point was king edgar's coronation. i'm checking the dates, 973. that's where they built from. so what they want to do is be true to that, be true to the
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queen's coronation. so someone watching the queen's coronation will recognize what they see on saturday, but also making it relevant to a young teenager who may be from indian descent, for example. going back to the queen's father's coronation, their revolution was inviting four members of the working classes to attend. that was them opening it up. >> that was the big thing. >> if you look at what's happening on saturday, there is going to be a big transformation. it's not going to be just lords and ladies. even the queen's coronation, you had to be related to someone to be invited. it will be open to public servants, all sorts of different people. young people crucially. the first person he is going to meet is a young boy. that's really symbolic, bringing young people in. but really centrally to what is a sacred christian event that will be representatives from other religions, judaism, hinduism, for example, actually involved in the service. it is lots of modernization. >> it's -- i mean, coming from the united states, it's crazy to hear that this ceremony goes
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back to 973 was it? that's remarkable. >> it's an incredible spectacle. it's really mind blowing to watch this. because royal weddings involve royal funerals, they're quite similar to how we might have a wedding or a funeral in our normal lives, but we never get a coronation. no other monarchy in europe has a coronation. we have to go to japan for similar setups. the coronation we're going back to william the conqueror in 1066 who brought in the anointing. when we watch charles sit on that coronation chair that dates from 1300 built to house the stone of schoon that was stolen from scotland, yet people who sat in that chair, henry viii, victoria i, they wore the crown, not the original, but that was melted down in the civil war by oliver cromwell. the history of tradition. charles is the 40th monarch crown, yet at the same time trying the make it modern, trying to make it open to a
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world in which there is more questioning about monarchy. >> and prince harry will be here. and obviously, william has a big role in this? >> yes. william has a role, and also george has a role. he'll be part of the procession. that's the first time someone that young has been involved in an actual service like this. harry was invited, and he is coming. megan is staying home. this is archie's birthday. he won't have a formal role, but i do expect to see him being given quite a prominent seat. i'm going stick my neck out on that, because he is the son of a king. the bigger question is whether or not he'll come back and appear on the balcony with the rest of the family. i think that we're not being told from either side whether that's going to happen. i will tell you the whole of the front of the palace is a building site, and they have to literally step over planks of wood to get to the balcony. >> right. >> so they do have to think about it. >> and kate, it is remarkable, when you think william will be watching this, knowing that one
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day he will be in this role. his son, who i think is 9, is that right? will also be watching it, knowing that assuming the monarchy continues, he too will one day have a day like this. >> so remarkable. and to think that charles watched it just as a 4-year-old, his mother being crowned in 1953. and elizabeth herself, she watched it aged 11, watching her father, and of course her mother being crowned too. that's what we haven't seen since 1937, the monarch crowned with his spouse. the queen was crowned alone. there is no role for the spouse of a female monarch. so it's amazing to think that george is going to be sitting there such a little boy, and he is going to be having coronation celebrations at school like all the school children have across the uk, and those coronation celebrations for him are so different. >> he is having coronation celebrations like everybody else. >> yes. the princess of wales has been saying the children have been having their coronation celebrations. all kinds of things going on at schools, and he has been doing the same.
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and then maybe 50 years' time, he will himself be soigt about that chair, just as his father and grandfather did. and it's amazing to think that when charles gets up from that coronation charge and the st. edward's crown is taken off his head, the next person to wear that the next person will be edward the 5th. >> the anointing is when they become a representative for god on earth. that's really what happens. there was a debate early on about whether or not they should televise that. the queen's wasn't televised there was a big televised about whether the queen's service should be televised at all. >> her coronation was the first to be televised, but they didn't televise the very religious part of it. >> we thought the progression here is we would see that. charles, after much consideration, has decided that he wants to have a personal momentum of thought in the middle of the service there will be a screen there. but there are actually a couple of seats in the abbey that will
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see it. >> we're seeing camilla's anointing, aren't we? that is a real revolution, i think. not only are we seeing camilla crowned with charles, only in 2020 was the palace saying camilla was going to be princess consort. now she is queen. she is being crowned. but also seeing her anointing. >> kate, appreciate it, max. a lot to look forward. to. the world is watching the aftermath to a pair of drone strikes at the kremlin which included tense days in the skies today over kyiv. that is ukrainian defense forces shooting down a drone late today over kyiv. officials say it was not russian, but actually one of their own, which malfunctioned and had to be destroyed. no one was hurt on the ground. meantime, the circumstances of yesterday's incident at the kremlin, they remain murky and disputed, the latest being russia claiming american involvement. the white house denies it, and earlier today the director of
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national intelligence said the intelligence community doesn't yet have enough information to say who carried out the attack. nick paton walsh is in ukraine and he joins us now. the drown shoot-down is a case of intentional bringing down of the ukrainian drone. there were multiple air attacks on kyiv and odesa in the past 24 hours. what's it's been like? >> certainly the last wave over last night was relatively well repelled by ukraine's air defenses. all that went for the capital appear to have been shot down, and for odesa in the south, only three apparently got through, hitting buildings. we don't have a casualty read necessarily on that. sometimes military targets are hit. we don't know the full extent of what's occurred. but the relative success of air defenses last night not something that can be said for the horrifying scenes in kherson city, which yesterday before the kremlin even made their curious, at times unsupportable announcement that the kremlin
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had been attacked by drones, there were over 20 people killed by russian shelling of a supermarket, a railway station in kherson. so we're seeing a pattern here, anderson, frankly night by night. sirens in cities like this, the occasional flash on the sky. last night's kyiv got away with the air defense protecting it. but ukrainians, frankly, good to sleep every night deeply concerned that russia's rage will again translate into drones or missiles landing in civilian areas here. anderson? >> the kremlin wasn't the only place on russian soil that allegedly came under attack from drones. there were some fires at oil refineries and fuel depots near the russian border, i understand. what are russian authorities saying about that? >> russia's investigative committee has said they will be launching an investigation into a uav attack, a drone attack against a water tower, a dren attack against an oil refinery and a drone attack in bring
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bryansk as well. it's hard to keep track of the number of explosions we are seeing on the border sections inside russia, normally against critical infrastructure, oil refine risks railways. multiple attacks over the last week on the railway system in bryansk. it's unclear whether this is the work of russian partisans operating inside russia or somehow related to ukrainian activity. they've always denied attacks inside of russia, never more specifically so after the kremlin incident, whatever that really was. but a real sign certainly that russia's critical infrastructure is coming under attack as we near the ukrainian counter-offensive whether or not that has indeed already started. anderson? >> ukrainian nuclear safety officials are also accusing the russian military what they say is military equipment, weapons and explosives in one of the units of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. do you know more on that and what the risk of any kind of nuclear incident might be because of that incident?
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>> we don't have independent evidence of these claims of weapons being -- explosives being put inside the power plant. you remember, anderson, months ago, this was a deeply troubling issue, frankly for all of europe as we began to see this nuclear power plant essentially far too close to the front lines here, caught not in the crossfire, but in the rhetorical battle between both sides. it seems again according to ukraine officials that there are concerns russia may again be putting military assets near there to perhaps protect them or perhaps bring the power plant itself somehow into the mix here in the event of intensified clashes. but i think we are going to see in the days ahead here a real escalation as ukraine begins to move forward in its counter-offensive, and whether it has significantly dried up here. we can't tell you all that we see. reporting restrictions from the ukrainian military, but it is clear there is a lot of movement around and obviously in zaporizhzhia that is often
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thought to be the focus of where this counter-offensive may be, and that is indeed where the power plant. but concerns frankly across the board since the statement about the kremlin yesterday from moscow of what sort of retaliation we may end up seeing from moscow, if indeed they have anything left in their conventional arsenal. again, another reason why in the dead of night right now ukrainians are not always sleeping so comfortably. anderson? >> nick paton walsh, be careful. thank you. the battery and defamation trial. jurors heard for the first time parts of trump's deposition in which he insults the appearance of e. jean carroll's attorneys. later, questions about the killing of a homeless man on the new york subway by another rider in a chokehold. how the incident has shocked and divided new yorkers and people around the country. more ahead. r traffic. and our most advanced safety system ever. ♪
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in the e. jean carroll civil lawsuit against the former president. she is alleging he raped her at a new york department store in the 1990s. the former president neither testified nor presented a defense. he did, however, talk about taking the stand, something the judge left the door open to. let's go to the court in lower manhattan. how is the judge handling it? >> well, anderson, after trump's attorney rested their case today, this is outside presence of the jury, the judge in a real surprise move here said he was going to give trump until 5:00 p.m. on sunday in case he had any second thoughts about not testifying. the judge said he was doing this as a precaution because of comments that the former president made on a golf course in ireland. there he said that he was having to return to the u.s. to confront this accuser, meaning e. jean carroll in this case. that left a lot of questions earlier today about whether he was in fact returning to the u.s. and if he was going to appear in court. the judge said he would give him the opportunity. he said it doesn't mean he would
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grant this if trump came back and said he did want to testify. and trump's attorney expressed this is highly unlikely that he would, but the judge giving him the potential opportunity to reopen the case and testify. anderson? >> the jury heard the infamous "access hollywood" tape again today and in portions the former president's deposition in this case. what did he say in those clips? >> well, anderson, the jury said about 30 minutes of trump's deposition today, including a portion where trump is being forced to watch the "access hollywood" tape where he famously says he just kisses women, you know, he is the star there, allowed to do it. he is forced to watch to this and respond to it. his demeanor in this video, he doesn't show any sort of reaction, any response to it. and then he is asked questions about it. one of them, trump says on the tape, the "access hollywood" tape that when you're a star, you're allowed to do these things. so he was asked about why did you think you could do these things? and he essentially said that it is, as he put it, historically
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true, with stars that they can do that sort of thingful heavy was asked if he considered himself a star. he said that he did. and then he was also asked about the key defamation claims in this case, and trump owned those statements. he said he personally wrote them himself, that he did not know who e. jean carroll was, that she was not his type, and he called her allegations of the rape in the mid 1990s a hoax. he went further than that saying he didn't mean it as an insult to carroll, the saying that she was not his type. he looked at carroll's attorney and said "you're not my type either." that was part of the deposition that was played today, anderson. >> and another friend of e. jean carroll's took the stand today. what did she have to say? >> yeah, this is the second friend of e. jean carroll who has testified in this case. carroll's lawyers have called them to corroborate her testimony, her story. so this was a friend of hers who said that carroll did tell her in the mid 1990s, she put it between 1994 and 1996, she said that she recalled they were in her kitchen, and carroll told her that, quote, trump attacked
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her. she said carroll was frenzied in recounting the story, and she remembered unsolicited, this is the friend, she told her not to go to the police because trump was too powerful and he would bury her. an important witness for carroll's team in trying to get someone to corroborate her version of events, the allegations of the rape in the department store dressing room in the 1990s. >> appreciate it. to get some perspective on the trial, what the jury might make of what they saw and heard, cnn anchor and former federal prosecutor laura coates joins us. how problematic is that video deposition of the former president? apparently kind of backing up what he said on the "access hollywood" tape, just saying that is something that celebratorcelebrate celebrities have been able to do. >> normally you wouldn't really have hearsay statements, statements outside of the courtroom acceptable. this is admitted in a civil case because it's essentially a statement against his interest.
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more importantly, although this has been a hollywood tape that's been out there since at least his first presidential campaign, it now gives even greater weight to that testimony because now he is not the one testifying. he did not appear at trial. he does not have to appear at trial in a civil case, which is very surprising to many people. but because he did not do so, because he has yet to testify and may not ever testify now that the defense has said he will not, it gives greater weight to what was said. he is not going the counter it. he will not clayify the statement, and that rests there for the jury to consider. is there nor credit to be given to e. jean carroll's testimony? >> kara scannell just mentioned -- i want to play the clip of the former president in ireland saying he'll head back to new york to appear at the trial. >> i have to go back for a woman that made a false accusation about me, and i have a judge who is extremely hostile. and i'm going to go back, and i'm going to confront this
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woman. this woman is a disgrace, and it shouldn't be allowed to happen in our country. >> i mean, it's not really clear, as with many things what he is saying. he is saying he is going to go back. he is not saying he is going to testify. he says he is going to go back and confront, whatever that means in trump speak. >> whatever that means. of course. >> it does have a legal definition. you have an opportunity and right the confront an accuser and a witness testifying against you. if he meant it in the legal sense, his attorney has contradicted that. he said he is not bog toe put on a case. is not going to present evidence. he is not going to be a person to do so in a courtroom in a court of law. those statements seem to contradict what his attorney is saying, and there is an abundance of caution that is really demonstrated by judges to ensure that somebody who otherwise has a right to confront one's accuser, who has a right to testify in a case, will have every opportunity to do so. why?
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because most are afraided of beg appealed saying the judge did not do enough. as the judge noted, unless he says he will intend to do so by sunday, then that ship has sailed. frankly, the fact that he is already not going to do so would mean that ship is well along the horizon at this point in time. but out of an abundance of caution, given the stakes of a case like, this the actual person who is being accused, a former president, i suspect he is trying to extend that airbus of caution here. >> i want to ask you about the new developments in another case involving the former president. "the new york times" is reporting tonight the federal prosecutors investigating mar-a-lago documents have obtained the confidential cooperation of someone who worked at mar-a-lago. the person's identity obviously hasn't been disclosed. potentially, it sounds like -- that could be significant, depending on what access that person may have had. >> absolutely, anderson. think about this. remember, it's not just that
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documents are no longer in the white house, or that they were transported to mar-a-lago. it's also that there was a whole lot of intervening circumstances where the actual government was saying we'd like these back. the archives, we know that you have something. please return them, and was able to actually delineate certain things that were there. so if there was a moment in time where documents were where they were not supposed to be, they came after a subpoena. and knowing that there was a subpoena active to try to retain and return these documents, documents were moved. documents were put from one place to another in some effort to try to conceal documents where they're existing or to keep them out of the rightful hands of the owner, well, then that now thickens the plot here. so any cooperating witness, although the identity we do not know. i don't want to get ahead of my skis, the fact that you have somebody who might have insight into what happened once there was actual notice given that documents were knowingly on that
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premises and were not returned, well, what happened in the interim? that is the heart of jack smith's case. >> yeah. laura coates, great to you on. thank you so much. in another high profile case, a federal jury in washington found the proud boys chairman enrique tarrio and three other members guilty of seditious conspiracy. a fifth was acquit odd tonight charge. however, all fife are also convicted of a variety of other serious charges all in connection with the january 6th attack on congress. just ahead tonight, the story of a homeless man in new york who witnesses say yelled in violent language at passengers on the subway about being hungry, thirsty and tired, having nothing, and about how he didn't care if he went to jail. a witness said despite any aggressive and frightening behavior, jordan neely didn't attack anyone. neely died after another rider put him in a chokehold. reaction to the investigation, next.
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governor kathy hochul today said the family of a homeless man killed on a new york city subway train after another rider put anymore a chokehold, quote, deserves justice. nordan neely had been a street perform attorney streets and subways but reportedly had fallen on hard times. he was acting erratically monday, possibly frightening anyone on the train. he hadn't attacked anyone at the time he was put in the chokehold. the medical examiner's office says the manner of death is homicide. the story has provoked protests, gained national attention as it touches on a number of high profile issues including homelessness, mental health and race. omar jimenez has the story.
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we warn you, it is disturbing. >> reporter: it all started when nordan neely was acting erratically saying he was fed up and hungry. >> started yelling violence, language. i don't care if i die, i don't care if i'm going to jail. i don't have any food. i don't have any beverage and then he put out there jacket, and hearing on the floor. >> reporter: juan alberto vazquez was there and says despite any aggressive rand frightening behavior, neely hadn't attacked anyone, even if he was making passengers uncomfortable. not long after, another passenger came up behind neely and put him in a chokehold. vazquez says he didn't hear any interact beforehand, he just heard them fall to the ground. he shot this video minutes into the altercation. >> we arrive at the station. the doors open. all the people run away, and the
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guys stay in this position seven, eight minutes. >> reporter: another passenger appears to be helping restrain neely. it's also unclear how long in total he was in the chokehold, since this didn't capture the start of it. neely later lost consciousness and was pronounced dead at the hospital. the medical examiners says he died because of compression of the next. the manhattan district attorney's office says they're assessing all photo and video footage to identify as many witnesses as possible. >> people who are dealing with mental health illness, should get the help they need and not live on the train. i'm going to continue to push on that. >> reporter: last year eric adams was criticized for directing first responders and the 9 to enforce a lot that allowed them to involuntarily
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commit people suffering a mental health crisis. protests in support of neely have called for answers. >> it could have been somebody broke it up or anything. it's not the whole situation. at the same tile, he don't deserve to lose his life. >> i think he should still be alive today. >> reporter: and that last part is the main controversy here, that people feel no matter what happened beforehand, this shouldn't have ended in death. now as for the person who did the chokehold, we reached out to who we believe is him. when i identified myself as a reporter over the phone, he told me i'm not interested in answering any of your questions, and hung up. sources tell cnn he has spoken the police, and he was released as we still await any announcement on potential charges, anderson. >> all right. omar jimenez, appreciate it. i'm joined by cnn chief law enforcement agent and john miller. also cnn legal analyst and criminal defense attorney joey
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jackson. as you know, the medical examiner's office ruled this a homicide. nearly died from complex of the neck. do you expect the man who put him in a chokehold will be charged? i'm guessing a lot of it will depend what witnesses on the train said, whether he appeared to be on the verge of violence, whether there was -- people felt threatened. what will go into that. >> the individual who put himself him in a chokehold, this 24-year-old former marine indicated that he thought the man was getting ready to attack people when he threw his jacket down and hit hands and fists, but he felt his actions would rft that imminent assault. this is a case where mr. neely certainly shouldn't be dead. certainly was in need of more happen than you were getting. but the circumstances from a legal standpoint, and i'll defer to joey jackson is whether this man intended to kill him, or should have known his actions could have led to his death. and that is more likely to be a
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decision made by the district attorney about whether to bring charges and then whether a grand jury will indict on those charges. and there is a couple of ways to go about that. >> joey, the witnesses in omar's report said neely was saying things like "i don't care if i die, i don't care if i go to jail", then taking off his coat. from a legal perspective, is that enough to make passengers believe neely might do something violent, even though at this point he did not attack anyone and the same witness says he did not see a weapon. >> that's part of it, anderson. obviously you have to look at what was stated, what he was doing. what was he communicating that could be perceived as a threat. but it guess beyond that. it's not only what a person is saying, it's what you believe and how they are actually acting. was there any furtive gestures that he was making towards any passengers. were the passengers led to believe there was any fear of
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immediate attack. based on that fear of that attack, now the person who subdued him, did that individual, because you are allowed under the law to protect yourself or protect others, what did that person believe to be occurring at the time. were those actions reasonable? and then when you get to the issue of the chokehold, anderson, the issue is going to be was that chokehold so sustained as to be disproportionate? and when he was in chokehold, mr. neely, was he representing a threat of any kind at this point? there is a lot to be parsed out. i think there will be a focus on the witnesses and what they specifically believed or felt. you don't have to be attacking anyone to used physical force. the issue became was there an immediacy that you felt he was about to use the physical force that will all be assess beside prosecutors and place. >> john, this strikes a chord, especially for people who live in big cities. you and i are new yorkers.
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we've all been on streets or subways where there are people that appear to be having some kind of mental health crisis, screaming, seem threatening. and it's a question of you're trapped on a train, when one citizens wants to help other citizens. this is a tough one. >> well , you know, it is a touh one. anderson, you hit it on the head. there is no new yorker who rides the trains who has had an individual of an individual coming in, aggressive behavior, threatening behavior. people to look at their shoes, please don't make eye contact, and hope the whole thing passes. here is a situation where the individual decided to take action because he perceived a threat. we have to be realistic. in the post george floyd world, in the post eric garner world, a racially charged case on video that results in the death of man, this is going to raise i.r.a.
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this is going to raise questions. it's going to bring controversy. politicians are already coming out of the woodwork to comment on it. the mayor asking people to withhold judgment for the investigation. a governor saying there must be consequences. so this is going to put the district attorney in a different position where he is going to have to rely on the law and the process. >> yeah. appreciate it. thanks. both of you. we'll continue to cover it. coming up, senator dianne feinstein pushes become on fellow democrats who want her to resign. age also a factor for president biden's reelection bid. our jeff zeleny is in spring state of michigan, next. e she found it.
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senator dianne feinstein broke her silence today after several of her fellow democrats have called for her resignation. they say her extended medical absence is delaying judicial appointments. in a statement she said there has been no slowdown. feinstein is 89 years old and recovering from shingles. she sit tops senate judiciary committee. her absence has left the committee evenly divided along party lines. despite democrats' overall senate majority. she didn't say when she would return. age is also a factor for president biden and his reelection bid. polls show voters are apprehensive. 45 show he should not run. 89% of them cited his age. jeff zeleny has more on the concerns of voters in the swing
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state of michigan. >> so now we have someone in there really concerned about working families. >> reporter: kathy harris doesn't know president biden's exact age, and she said she doesn't much care. >> you hear people say it's just a number until god takes them home. he has the strength he needs to be doing for the country, it doesn't bother me that he is whatever. >> reporter: yet that does not mean she is enthusiastic for what's to come. do you get excited by the prospect of a second biden term? >> do i get excited? no. i just think of that craziness. i personally, kathy does not want to have to deal with that all over again. >> reporter: a week after declaring his bid for reelection, the president's tv ads are already airing here in western michigan. >> joe biden, a president for all americans. >> reporter: where many people who helped him win four years ago admit they're not eager for another campaign. >> i personally only voted for him as a way to debunk trump.
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i really thought our democracy was in jeopardy and wanted someone else. >> reporter: as we talk to voters like cara dewitt, a respectful reluctance toward biden comes through, even though she acknowledges she will likely support him again. is your vote for biden next time to stop trump again? >> yes, 100%. >> reporter: former president donald trump faces a republican primary contest of his own, but he's already part of the conversation here in grand rapids and surrounding kent county, which he lost in 2020 after winning four years earlier. nancy wagner said she voted for trump, but recoils at the thought of a rematch. >> oh, i think it sounds awful. i think it sounds awful. >> why do you think it sounds awful? >> well, i think we need a new generation of leaders. i think we need people with fresh ideas. >> reporter: it's too soon, of course, to know whether biden and trump will face off again, even if many democrats believe the former president can unify
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them unlike anything else. congresswoman hillary skolton believes her party must better explain its accomplishments. >> i look at the approval ratings, you know. we know that there is still some dissatisfaction with national democrats, despite everything that they have delivered on in the last two years. >> reporter: signs of some achievements are easy to find, like projects from the landmark infrastructure law. but it's an open question whether biden will be rewarded for it. >> i think the president is not getting the credit for what he has done. >> reporter: terry unquist says biden faces many charges, but has so far exceeded expectations. >> he looks much better than what i expected it to do. but what can i say? i'm 80 years old myself. he is one of my people. >> reporter: there is no escaping we questions about the president's age.
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it comes up in almost every conversation we had here. some voters are concerned, others less so. this is one of the main points that getting to the fact that the majority of americans are unsure that the president should be seeking reelection, but in fact he is. he is a two-word response to anyone who asks the question about if he is fit for a second term. he says "watch me." anderson, that's exactly what the voters here are doing. >> jeff zeleny, appreciate it. thank you so much. up next, more from here in london as preparations continue for this weekend's coronation. in a moment, immediate academy award nominated composer patrick doyle known for writing music scores for "harry potter" films and "hamlet." how king charles asked him to write a piece for saturday's ceremony, and what he has s written. - this is jabra enhance select. it's more than just a hearing aid. it's a smart hearing solution that makes hearing aids more convenient and less expensive.
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there are dozens and dozens of people with different roles in saturday's coronation here in london. one of them is hollywood composer patrick doyle. lately he's been busy composing a new piece of music for the coronation, one of 12 commissioned by king charles for the ceremony at westminster abbey on saturday. with more, here's cnn's isa
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soares. ♪ >> reporter: for scottish composer patrick doyle, it was the call of a lifetime. ♪ >> i was completely overwhelmed, in fact, i couldn't believe it. i was not expecting it. >> reporter: his agent on the phone with a message from buckingham palacie asking him t compose the coronation march for king charles. >> what was that moment like? >> it was very intimidating, very frightening for many reasons. i thought this is going to be watched by millions of people. not only that, it's king charles who's been very supportive of my career. it's a huge responsibility. it's such a historic canday. it's got to be my best work. >> talk about the brief. what did the brief entail? >> he asked for it to be uplifting, triumphant and memorable, so no pressure, and
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he asked if the piece could be composed within a parameter of four minutes because the whole day was so well planned that it's down to the last second literally. so i -- the piece come out eventually at 3:55. >> reporter: patrick doyle is no stranger when it comes to writing music to strict time frames. he spent the last 35 years composing in hollywood from blockbusters like harry potter to thor and disney's pixar brave. >> which one's your favorite? i know it's like picking your favorite chield but which one's your favorite? >> i certainly have very fond memories of my very first film, he he henry the first. it was amazing for me. it was my very first picture,
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and there's all of that, saw the film and subsequently commissioned me to write a piece for the queen mother's 90th birthday. the choral piece that comes near the end of that picture. ♪ >> how does it feel going from, you know, hollywood royalty to this, to real royalty? >> in my 70th year, the height of my career to being asked to compose this iconic piece was an extraordinary privilege, and the thought of being in the abbey. ♪ >> >> issa suarez, london. much more from london including a newly unearthed photo of king george at his mother's coronation 70 years ago.
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that's king charms, 4-year-old looking bored as if he'd like to be anywhere else as his mother takes the crown at her coronation nearly 70 years ago. that is by no means the only photo of a royal child being a kid over the years. here's prince william the heir to the throne covering his eyes at buckingham palace. decades later, prince george at the same ceremony looking kind of like his grandfather in 1953, and many will remember william's youngest son louie then 4 at the queen's platinum jubilee covering his ears during the flyover. he shushed his mother princess katherine and made other funny faces during the jubilee concert. we'll see any young royals do anything similar this time. be sure to watch our special coverage of king charles coronation starting at 5:00 a.m. eastern time saturday here on cnn. the news continues, cnn prime time with abby phillips starts now. >> thank you so much. and good evening, everyone. i'm abby phillip. we begin ton