kevon loon knee ey scoring 15 p in 13 minutes. the lakers actually led by 7 after the first quarter of this one. the second and third quarters belonged to golden state. they outscored l.a. 84 to 47. klay thompson getting red hot, 8 of his 11 threes. warriors would cruise to a win. >> we know lebron's seen it all. a.d.'s seen it all, and so it's 1-1 at the end of the day. >> and they made their adjustments and you know, we knew they were going to do that. that's what a championship team does, and you know, they held serve when they were on court tonight, and we've got to see the adjustments they made, we've got to make our adjustments coming into game three. >> the series now shifts to l.a., guys, for game three on saturday. as a basketball fan, really just hoping this one ends up going seven games. that would be certainly something special watching steph

and lebron. >> that's more plagy making you get to watch and watch these amazing athletes continue to play. we'll be watching. we'll be rooting for seven games, thank you. cnn this morning continues right now. the leader of russia's wagner group said he is pulling his troops out of bakhmut, that key ukraine cran city. >> these men here who died today. >> they're out by the middle of next week just after a very important date of the russian calendar, victory day on may the 9th. police in california have arrested a former uc davis student accused of stabbing three people, killing two of them. >> these crimes were horrific. we hope that the announcement provides some level of relief. >> dominguez could be arraigned in court as early as monday. protests in support of neely have called for answers. >> there could have been somebody there to help him. he should still be alive today. >> there have to be

consequences. his family deserves justice. >> supposed to use intelligence and compassion and know how to talk to each other. a jury exhiconvicting more right extremists of sedition, all members of the proud boys. >> this happened, this was real, and justice must be served. >> i'll never regret something that i said. >> the justice department will never stop working to defend american democracy. a jury decided that sheeran did not copy marvin gaye's classic hit "let's get it on". >> this is a very big moment for the music industry, especially for ed sheeran. >> i will never allow myself to be a piggy bank for anyone to shake. i'm just a guy with a guitar who loves writing music. good morning, everyone. poppy is off today. much deserved. erica hill in with us. >> nice to be with you. >> on friday morning. >> we have a lot of breaking news this morning, this morning the ukrainian military says they may be witnessing a turning point in the war.

the head of russia's wagner group, the mercenary group says he is pulling his troops out of bakhmut where there have been so much fighting happening recently. russia's been trying to capture it for months but they've suffered heavy casualties. the head of this group is blasting the russian military and its leaders accusing them of withholding ammunition from him and his fighters. he released an angry video overnight standing next to a pile of what he says are dead mercenar mercenaries, their bodies. i want to warn you we have blurred this video, but it is still quite graphic. >> translator: these men here who died today are wagner pmc. their blood is still fresh. you think you are the masters of this life? you think you can dispose of their lives? you think because you have warehouses full of ammunition that you have that right? >> he says his mercenaries are leaving in just five days.

losing the battle for bakhmut could be a major setback for russian forces as they brace for ukrainian counteroffensive. moscow is warning the united states and russia are on the verge of what it says is the chance for open armed conflict after this mysterious drone attack on the kremlin. the white house is rejecting the kremlin's baseless claims that the u.s. was responsible calling it ludicrous. here's what russia's foreign minister said just a short time ago. >> translator: it was clearly a hostile act. it is absolutely clear that the kyiv terrorists could not have committed it without the knowledge of their masters. we will not respond by talking about whether it was -- we will respond with concrete actions. >> brand new cnn reporting this morning, we are learning russian forces have been ramping up their use of electronic jammers in an effort to throw off american made rocket systems on the battlefield. ukraine's military has hailed the high mar system as a game

changer in this war. the jammers, though, have been causing the rockets to miss. for more now, let's bring in cnn's senior national security correspondent alex marquardt. just how disruptive has this jamming been? >> well, erica it has made the piece of weaponry that has had the greatest impact on the ukrainian battlefield less effective. normally this is an ext extraordinarily precise rocket system. it can fire 50 miles or 80 kilometers away. when you talk to ukrainians on the ground, civilian and military, they talk about it in almost a mythical way. but because these rockets are guided by gps, that means that they can be jammed, and that is what has been happening with increasing regularity we are told. these rockets are being jammed, they're being thrown off course. i spoke with ukrainian source who talks to drone operators on the front lines who fly over targets. they say that targets are increasingly being missed, that the high mars are increasingly

less precise, and so what that has forced is the u.s. and ukraine to come up with work-arounds to pierce that russian jamming. when the russians figure out how to jam, the ukrainians have to figure out how to get around that. then the russians will figure out how to counteract that, and ukraine will have to come up with another countermeasure. in the words of one senior pentagon official, it is constant tweaking. it is a constant game of cat and mouse, and that has to be done because the himars are so critical to ukraine's fight. >> it's not good news for ukraine, period, but also this comes, a as we are expecting th counteroffensive to begin, we don't know exactly when. how pressing of an issue is this given that nature? >> it's really important because the high mars have been so important throughout this fight and will be critical for this counteroffensive. they're needed and will be needed in this counteroffensive to reach well beyond the front lines, to hit logistical hubs, command posts, communications notes, ammunition depot.

we are told it is a high priority, and the u.s. is focusing on helping ukraine find these jammers and destroy them. it is not just high mars that are affected. it is other gps-guided smart munitions we are told. this is certainly a priority for the u.s. and for ukraine to seek out and destroy those jammers. >> important reporting and context, appreciate it, alex, thank you. also this morning, here in the u.s. police in california have arrested a former uc davis student in that string of stabbings that happened near campus. two of the victims died as we noted, one was wounded. authorities released this photo of the suspect. he's 21-year-old carlos dominguez. they believe he is responsible for all three stabbings that have happened within a relatively close distance of one another this week. >> these crimes were horrific. they're hard to imagine. they struck fear in the community, and we know that. we've also experienced loss. we hope that the announcement

today provides some level of relief. >> cnn's veronica miracle joins us now from davis, california. veronica, one thing that stood out to me is this suspect was a student until about april 25th when he was separated for what they said were academic reasons. what do we know? >> reporter: that's right, the university is being tight-lipped about exactly what that means. we know he was a junior. that separation happened last week, and then the first murder took place two days after that separation due to academic reasons. police say that they were able to make this arrest thanks to the community, thanks to all of the students and the people that live in davis for their help, because they got about 15 phone calls two days ago about -- and all of these calls describing a man at a park with the same description as the suspect, and when they arrived, they found 21-year-old carlos dominguez at that park where the second

homicide took place. that first homicide happened last thursday where a man was killed. the second homicide took place on saturday where a uc davis student was killed, and then on monday the latest stabbing attack happened and a woman was critically injured. she is still in the hospital. now, when asked if -- police when asked about whether dominguez was at that second park when he was discovered searching for his next potential victim, they said they didn't know but that he did have a large knife on him. here's what the police chief had to say. >> we decided to first arrest him for possessing a large knife that was on his person when he was picked up. he was wearing a backpack and in the backpack was a large knife that was consistent with one that we were looking for based on evidence from the first homicide. >> reporter: and dominguez has

been placed under arrest for two counts of homicide, one count of attempted homicide, and he could be arraigned as early as monday. >> we'll be watching for that arraignment, veronica miracle, thank you. there is a significant development in the probe of donald trump's handling of classified documents. "new york times" reporting this morning federal prosecutors have secured the confidential cooperation of an unnamed insider witness who has worked at mar-a-lago. that witness has reportedly given investigators a picture of the storage room where the material had been held. as for what other information may have been disclosed by this person, that is unclear in terms of what prosecutors may have learned from the insider. but this news comes less than 24 hours after cnn was the first to report that prosecutors issued several subpoenas to the trump organization about the handling of surveillance footage from mar-a-lago after last summer's subpoena. also this morning, wall street preparing for what could be another volatile day. investors are closely watching what the forthcoming april jobs report is going to show. we'll bring you those numbers

because they'll be released in the next hour. the fear around regional banks is far from subsiding right now. pac west saw its share price cut in half after it confirmed it was exploring strategic options. western alliance's stock tumbled after the financial times reported the bank was also exploring a sale. first horizon scrapped a $13 billion merger with td bank which sent its stock plunging more than 30%. as the banking turmoil continues to drag on, one senior analyst at a foreign exchange company tells cnn there's a lot of concern that, quote, something's about to break. it's a pretty dire warning. let's bring in cnn's chief business correspondent christine romans and phil mattingly for this. it seems like this is all just a crisis of confidence because these banks in the eye of the storm are are saying we're fine, our finances are solid, but no one seems to believe them. >> confidence is the whole -- the oxygen of the banking system here. you look at these most recent two we're watching, they're bouncing back this morning, so

that's really important. so some confidence has returned, but these are small, itty bitty regional banks. they're not a systemic problem. i think that's what jamie dimon, the chairman of jpmorgan chase, there could be other shoes to drop, but the overall banking system is still fine. i think what you have here is you have wall street looking for the weakest gazelle in the herd and they're looking for those little regional pbanks. >> what's so fascinating, svp was a terribly mismanaged bank. failure was a necessity to some degree. signature was caught up in some of the same mismatch issues, but also some crypto issues as well. first republic everyone has known for the last two months was right on the brink, and it was only a matter of time. to christine's point, all very large banks, particularly svb and first republic. these banks are 40s, 50s, 60s in terms of size overall. what's fascinating is the issues that took down svb in terms of

having leong-term securities tht are deeply under water and not necessarily having the equity to match up with them, that's not necessarily out of the norm, particularly in a high interest rate environment. what's different now is people are looking at that data, which is publicly available and then talking about it, talking about it on social media, talking about it online, driving short sellers to go after these banks, which in any other world would probably be fine, be doing normal course of business, and then you have pressure. so they say we have to raise money, and that shows weakness, so people attack them for that. so they're not necessarily doing anything different or wrong or catastrophic. it's the chatter about it that's really driving this. >> it's the chatter and the lens that that brings too, right? this is almost the exact conversation in many ways we seem to consistently have on the economy. even when the numbers are good, even when the job numbers are good, it's how people feel and part hoffof that feeling is is do they see online, what do they see out there that's raising an alarm bell for them, even if the data may not back it up. >> so far the deposits are not fleeing these banks.

it's investors that are selling the stock. it's not the depositors are fleeing these banks. at some point then it becomes a vicious cycle. then people start hearing, wait, is there something wrong with this bank, and they decide to pull their money out. i think we're in a new phase of i'm not calling it a banking crisis, banking stress. we're in a new phase of banking stress, and i think we will see headlines like this. we saw that merger that was scuttled yesterday. that was a plain vanilla merger in february. everything has really changed. they said there was regulatory uncertainty over the time line is the reason they scuttled that merger. it's a new phase in banking. >> phil, what is the white house thinking on all of this? i'm sure they're tracking all of this closely, but what are they saying behind the scenes? >> we'd like this to go away as soon as possible, particularly given the fact that in a month we're looking at another crisis. what jamie dimon said publicly and the fed chair said publicly over the course of the last ten days very much are aware of the white house is on this issue. they feel like the crux of the quote, unquote crisis over the course of seven weeks is past

them because the major banks that were of concern are gone or merged or wherever they are. but i also think they understand from a market bass is when peop are unsettled when we're in this very volatile moment there's a lot of risk that comes with that. i think they're watching that closely. >> the irony is the big banks get bigger and community banks and regional banks which are good for the economy and the country, those are the ones that are kind of on the ropes. i think that's the irony for the white house. "the wall street journal" says it hates the big banks, which is not true. >> right. i also think survive in advance is a pretty good economic posture. they'll deal with the two big failures afterwards. >> thank you both. sn the u.s. could default on its debt weeks from now. president biden's senior adviser is going to join us live here on set. and the maker of a popular weight loss drug now setting limits because of skyrocketing

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they love to see chaos in the american system. they love to see that we can't do our basic jobs. it's no less a test of what works in this world. does democracy still work or does the chinese way work? >> that's shalanda young, she runs the office of management and budget for the white house. she's warning that countries like china and russia are going to take advantage of the chaos if the u.s. does default on its debt, something that could happen in just a month from now. that warning from the treasury secretary janet yellen saying the u.s. could run out of money to pay its bills as soon as june 1st unless congress does raise the debt limit. that is in the big fight on capitol hill. congressional leaders and president biden are going to meet on tuesday. after that meeting there are just a few days when the house and senate are in session. they can talk, they can negotiate when they're not actually in session but the president is scheduled to travel for at least another six days later this month, he's going to japan and australia.

that will put him out of the country as all these fights are going on. it is a tight schedule. there's a lot at stake. the white house is warning that a protracted default could wipe out 8 million jobs, cut the stock market in half. joining us now for more on this light, casual conversation, president biden's senior adviser and infrastructure implementation coordinator, mitch landrieu. thanks for being here. great to have you. given we're so close to that warning date that janet yellen talking about, has the white house planning for what a default would look like? >> the first thing to remember and understand this is a manufactured crisis. since the beginning of the '60s, 78 times the debt limit has been raised, and under president trump three times without preconditions. so this is really a manufactured crisis, during the regular budget process, you covered this, we all have arguments about what we're going to spend, what we're going to cut, how are we going to finance the government, and the president's position has always been, listen, stop holding a gun to the head of the american people because you're playing a very, very dangerous game, and that's been his position. he's going to meet, of course,

with the leaders on tuesday. he's going to reiterate that message to them, they're going to continue to talk to see if they can figure out how to make sure that, number one, we raise the debt ceiling, and then if they want to have a discussion about the values in their budget versus the values in the president, the president's ready to have that argument every day. >> is the white house having conversations about what it does look like if there's no agreement? >> this white house is never going to be unprepared to respond to whatever crisis confronts us. the president want thes to be clear to the american public. this is like walking up to somebody and saying i'm going to burn your house down if you don't let me hurt your neighbor who just came back from the v.a. that's not a good position. the consequence of burning the house down is to hurt every other american. that's the position that the house republicans are putting the country in, and the president doesn't want that to happen and is going to lead as he always has. >> what's tuesday going to look like behind closed doors? is president biden bringing a counteroffer? what's that going to look like

when they're all in the room together? >> i'm not going to be in the room so i don't know. the president's going to do what he always do. people said the president couldn't bring people together, he always tries to do that. he always does it in a principled way, a thoughtful way with practical responses and consequences. you can't yield to ransom notices. that's a very difficult thing for the country to do. the president's going to exercise presidential leadership and try to prevail upon the speaker of the house and the republicans of the house to be thoughtful and reasonable and not to put the lives and finances of americans at risk. >> is that the strategy here, just hoping that in the end some reasonable republicans as you say will come to the table? because right now that doesn't seem likely to happen. mitch mcconnell is still aligned with kevin mccarthy on this, and what is the plan here? because it just seems like the white house is waiting on republicans to come around, which they have shown no signs of doing. >> hope is never a strategy. there are always contingency plans. i'm not going to get ahead of the president. but his message to the american public is as the president he needs to protect the health,

safety, and welfare of the american people. >> this comes as separately in another house or another chamber on the hill, senator joe manchin a democrat is threatening to repeal the inflation reduction act, which he helped write. he picked that title as you know. he says that the administration that y'all are trying to use the ira to steer the u.s. quickly towards a clean energy transition and away from fossil fuels that you're using the electric vehicle tax credits they put in there in the wrong way. is he wrong? >> well, let's just say we have a difference of opinion what about it is that's happening, why it's happening important it is. the climate crisis is an existential crisis. the inflation reduction act, which he helped write and pass, i'm from louisiana, when you think about katrina, rita, ike, the bp oil spill, the fires in the west, the lack of water, we've got a real problem on our hands, and we have to get to a clean energy economy sooner rather than later. the president is and senator manchin have a difference of the speed, not really the direction.

so the inflation reduction act also had significant health care provisions to save health care costs and lower the costs especially for prescription drugs. if you undo that bill, you actually are going to take away the ability to create high paying jobs in states like west virginia and kentucky and in tennessee and we think that's a bad idea. >> do you think he's genuinely considering repealing that bill as he's threatened, or do you think it's more of a political play. he's also weighing whether or not to run for re-election. >> i know senator manchin well, he's a good friend. he and the president have been colleagues for a long time. you have to take joe manchin at his word, but his intention to do is whether actually they can succeed in doing that. the position of the administration is the inflation reduction act is the largest investment in climate reformation in the history of the world. it's necessary to get there sooner rather than later in a balanced, thoughtful, common sense way. >> the other democrat on capitol hill who often causes headaches to the white house is senator kyrsten sinema. she made this comment as title 42 is set to expire next week.

>> obviously the border is not secure. anyone with eyes can see that. it would be most helpful if the administration would start by enforcing the laws that are on the books. >> i'll make a couple of points about that. first of all, when we talk about senator sinema and senator manchin, that's on top of 50 republicans never supporting the administration ever. so it requires us to work with senator manchin and senator sinema who as you know have been allies mostly. the border has always been a challenge. the president wants to secure the border but having a border only approach to immigration doesn't work. we need a comprehensive plan from congress, which we have not had. as you know, the president and the department of defense are deploying the national guard to the border to help, and as we process people once title 42 goes away, we need to get it really kind of focused and in the place it needs to be. >> i should note obviously she switched her party. she's an independent now. when it comes to title 42 expiring, is the administration prepared for that? >> yeah, i think we are. it's a difficult problem,

there's no question about it. immigration has been a complicated problem for america for a long time. this is going to put more pressure on us, on the administration through the secretary of dhs has been working on this. we have agents that are going to the border, border patrol agents. if we go into default or if the republicans get their way with the cuts, they're actually going to cut custom and border patrol agents. that's going to make the job much more difficult. >> yeah, that crisis on top of what we're already warning could happen with a default. >> infrastructure, that is why you're here in new york. that is obviously what your day-to-day role is, even though we've hit 20 other topics here. how much money has actually gone out the door so far? >> $210 billion has been sent out of the door. we have 25,000 projects that have been funded in some form or fashion in every community in the country. that's really exciting for us. we continue to work hard with the governors and the mayors to make sure that we build projects really, really quickly. so roads, bridges, airports, ports, waterways, making sure that we have clean air and safe water, and then preparing as you

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millions of people across the united kingdom and the world preparing to celebrate to watch the coronation of king charles iii along with the coronation of camilla, the queen sconsort. the ceremony combining both this religious service, this ceremony steeped in medieval tradition, and plenty of pomp and pageantry takes place tomorrow at westminster abbey, and it is the first coronation in seven deck k

decades. joining us now sharon carpenter and trisha goddard. i can hear the rain just started behind you. it feooels feels sort of apropo we're talking all things british. >> perfect timing. >> it is perfect timing. in this moment, it's interesting what the reaction has been, somewhat mixed. there is so much anticipation. people haven't seen this in 70 years, and yet, there are questions. the younger generation specifically asking questions. what is the mood there this morning? >> well, actually, i mean, there are tourists everywhere, tourists, you know, this is a peak thing for tourism, a peak time of the year, but yeah, you're right. there has been varied reaction. the fact that king charles has been so inclusive and has different faiths represented, it speaks to the younger generation, but there has been some criticism. historian david starkey, for instance, suggested that the reason that the government isn't really on board is because rishi

sunak, we have a hindu prime minister, rishi sunak he's implying doesn't quite get the whole history because of the religion being different. you can hear the rain there. >> and the thunder as well. >> which i have to say they are predicting for tomorrow, which might cancel the fly paths, but yes, there have been mixed reactions. remember, king charles is the first divorced king since henry viii. >> it's interesting you brought up those comments, what he said specifically is he's a man of immense talent, extraordinary skill but really not fully grounded in our culture. i mean, sharon, he's basically saying you're just not british enough for me. king charles is supposed to be the king of the united kingdom, of course he's the head of state for the commonwealth, which represents a number of countries. being inclusive here is not just about religion, but it's recognizing that this is a far

more diverse country and commonwealth than it has ever been. >> yeah. yeah. we've got a -- we've got slee con as the mayor in london. we've not the first muslim, first minister in scotland, you know, we are a really diverse country. >> yeah. absolutely. and one of the other things, some of these commonwealth nations who have the king as the head of state, to remove him, i know that jamaica's been talking about this, belize has been talking about this as well. also one of the issues that king charles is going to have to deal with moving forward is the monarchy's ties to the slave trade. >> yeah. >> this is something that has been making the headlines recently, king charles has said that he is going to open the royal archives for studies to be done and research to be done about those ties, so it's going to be interesting what we find out. >> yeah.

>> in terms of what we're watching for tomorrow, there are all of these efforts from king charles to make this a more inclusive ceremony, part of which is including different faiths. there has been a lot made about would he be defender of the faith being the church of england or defender of faiths. he has the uk's chief rabbi participating who's actually staying at st. james' palace so he can walk because of course it's the sabbath. how inclusive is it actually going to be? do you think he is fulfilling that promise as he needs to? >> well, it's been king charles's wish to do this, but you have to remember that he's not the one who's organized absolutely everything. he has a muslim peer, he has a jewish peer, he has a hindu peer all presenting, you know, official artifacts, for instance, but there has been some talk about are they truly representative of their communities. were they just picked because

they're in the house of lords. on my other show i had a lot of people phone in and say, you know what, it would have been better if he'd take someone from the community, but this is the problem. when you try to please even, it's really difficult. you're not going to be, you know, as successful as you hope you are going to be. but you know, it is a step in the right direction. >> i would like to add as well -- >> go ahead. >> sorry, go ahead. >> i was going to ask you about the other thing -- we're almost out of time. there's so much focus on not only queen camilla and the pomp and pageantry and the glitz and the jewels, everybody wants to know what's going to happen with harry. we know he's attending, we don't know if he has a role at this point. what is the sense of whether or not he will appear on the balcony, because that moment will say a lot about not only this reign heading forward, but frankly about the family itself. >> yeah. this is going to be the big moment, the balcony moment is really the grand finale of

coronation day, and king charles is going to be taking to that balcony for the first time as monarch, by the way, but everyone is going to be looking to see who's up there. charles, this is going to be a tough decision for him. is he going to go for only senior working members of the royal family to show this is a slimmed down monarchy he's working on, or is he going to go in the direction of family. we all know that harry -- >> i hope he does. he is the dad. harry up there standing with king charles, and queen camilla and prince william. >> a little tension there i'm told. >> that would say this is a modern damoy monarchy. >> i'm for family, bring everybody on the balcony. appreciate it, enjoy the day tomorrow. thank you. >> and of course you can see all the action right here on cnn, the coronation of king charles iii, you can watch history in

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the reason, the company says it's having a tough time keeping up with demand. joining us now is cnn's medical correspondent meg tir rel. >> novo nordisk says hundreds of thousands of u.s. patients are on this medicine and it's tracking prescription droet and it's going faster than it can currently supply the drug. it says it's going to keep supplying it to the patient who are already on the medicine who are at these higher maintenance doses but it's going to limit these lower doses where patients start out in order to try to be able to keep up with who they're currently supplying. >> just so people are clear, this is wegovy, this is only approved as a weight loss drug for obesity. it's not being taken away from diabetes patients. is there a sense this is going to work? they can an faq of why can celebrities get this and i can't. >> they are try to increase capacity, they're going to cut back on their marketing to try not to stimulate too much demand at this point. the concern is if patients can't get this to start on it, they

might switch to trying to get the drugs elsewhere through either medical tourism or compounding pharmacies or online, and doctors are warning, you've got to be really careful when you're going outside the normal channels for these medicines. >> make sure you get it from your physician. keep us updated, let us know if their tactic does work. >> thank you. for ed sheeran, he's probably waking up a little happier this morning, a major victory for the singer song writer, a jury finding his hit song "thinking out loud" did not infringe on the copyright of the classic marvin gaye slow jam "let's get it on." he said if he lost the case he was going to quit music altogether. sheeran said he actually missed his grandmother's funeral in ireland because of this trial. after the verdict, he declared the ruling was an important step in protecting musicians and their art. >> i'm obviously very happy with the outcome of the case and it looks like i'm not having to retire from my day job after all. but at the same time, i'm

unbelievably frustrated that baseless claims like this are allowed to go to court. these chords are common building blocks used to create music long before "let's get it on" was written and will be used to make music long after we are all gone. >> joining us now the host of boston globe today. nice to see you this morning. >> thank you. >> this is a big deal. >> huge deal. >> what does it mean in the broader context, especially as we, you know -- when it comes to more lawsuits like this? because this wasn't the first time. >> no, and what we all need to understand is that a lot of popular music is built on the skeletons of songs past, right? even sampling but what happened here with ed was they thought that the chord progression and the sound of, you know, thinking out loud is the same as "let's get it on" with marvin gaye. i think what really swayed it is ed performed the song in the courtroom, and i feel like that might even be jury tampering. if you're going to get a concert, it's really hard to vote against or to, you know, find against ed in this, but

what it can do is allow artists to, you know, to be free. we saw with blurred lines that when the gaye family comes for, you know, they feel like you've infringed on their father's work or, you know, marvin's work, they will be litigious, and in that case it was pretty oven -- >> that was, yes, i couldn't hear it in that way in the ed sheeran song, i have to say. >> i could, though. on the joe budden podcast, they played them side by side, and then they mixed them together, and you can hear similarities. but ed, again, in the courtroom basically said, well, look, like these songs, lots of songs have these chord progressions. you can't penalize everybody. so again, i was torn, ed sheeran's song perfect was the theme music to my wedding. let's get it on was the theme to my honeymoon, so i was torn between who to vote for, but i'm happy that ed won. i like his music. >> there's that. i learned a lot in the last ten seconds. >> i don't even know if i should follow up on that.

>> do you want to just end on that note? >> no, it's springtime, look, we've got bright colors on. >> love is in the air. >> absolutely. >> can i ask you on a serious note because ed sheeran when he came out was saying, you know, lamenting that he missed his grandmother's funeral because of this. he seemed to be framing it as like a shakedown. he was saying this is an attempt to shake the piggy bank just to get money out of him. >> there can be truth in that. we saw even with the gwyneth paltrow trial, right, if you're a celebrity and in the way society is right now, you're a bit of a target. >> yeah. >> and anything that can, you know, get some money out of you people are going to try and do that. so ed winning kind of, you know, puts a wall up to say, look, celebrities are going to fight back too. they're not going to start writing blank checks. gwyneth paltrow not going to write a blank check. let's take it to court. if you really believe you did nothing wrong, we're going to use what's available to us and try it out. >> because i guess the thinking is they're uber wealthy. if they could just settle this, they'll do that instead of

actually going to court and fighting it. >> easier to make it go away. >> the song had been out for a long time. it's one thing to like you hear the song, immediately you're like whoa whoa whoa this is wrong. the other thing is you hear the song, let it get super popular, let the artist make lots of money, then it looks like a shakedown. >> it raises questions. >> great to see you, and learn so much more. >> i just love that you said all of that about your honeymoon, your wedding. >> this is what love does. don't they say love makes all of us fool. >> love that. >> beautiful place to end. glad to have you on set today. >> great to be here. also this morning as we are tracking this story out of the supreme court, more and more scrutiny, it seems like every single day, justice clarence thomas now facing more ethics questions for his ties to a republican mega donor. there's a new report that brings up new questions about payments that his wife received from a conservative nonprofit. federal prosecutors in the mar-a-lago investigation have obtained the cooperation of an

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♪ the iconic american product at the center of tens of thousands of lawsuits. on the next installment of the whole story, pamela brown investigates claims made who blame johnson & johnson's talc baby powder for their cancer. >> in spring and summer i was starting to feel like i wanted to have kids. so i saw a doctor and she told me, yeah, we should do your follicle count. the next day i got the results

that just said, yeah, your count is fine, but you have malignant masses. so that's leaving sloan kettering. and then this is it healing up. and then chemotherapy. you get a mesothelioma diagnosis and you don't understand how wie have asbestos? everywhere i have gone i have had some johnson & johnson baby powder. i just never imagined that something that you would use on babies was unsafe. >> pamela brown joins with more on her exclusive reporting. this story is just scary because so many people trusted johnson & johnson and trusted this product and, you know, there was a big investigation in "the new yorker" a few months ago also.

what did you find? >> so, yeah, this is a story that has been going on for years, right. johnson & johnson being sued by plaintiffs who claim that its tall bek-based baby powder caused their cancer. we wanted to dig deeper and look at some of those claims, look at the science, and follow some women like you saw lisa and the women who are suing this multibillion-dollar iconic american company. they are just some of the 40,000. it was really fascinating when you peel back the layers. both sides are adamant that what -- the women that we spoke to are adamant that the baby powder caused their cancer and johnson & johnson vehemently denies that, saying our product is safe. the science shows it. even though in 2019 the fda found in one sample asbestos, johnson & johnson counters, well, we did our own independent testing, more than 150 tests,

and there is no asbestos and a lab was contaminated. so we examine the claims, we follow these women, and i sat down with allison brown, an attorney for johnson & johnson, who has defended this company in court. here is what she had to say. >> so johnson & johnson is at the center of this and so it is essential to hear from this lawyer who has been defending johnson & johnson in court. the first thing that is most important for me that people know about these cases is that they are doing an enormous disservice to a very important issue of women's health. what we can say with 100% certainty is that we have never confirmed a finding of asbestos in any product that has been sold and that decades of scientific testing and study has shown it's safe and does not

cause cancer. >> allison brown argues that the blame is on these plaintiffs' attorneys for why there are so many lawsuits against johnson & johnson. she says they are money hungry and with advertising they lured people in even though she claims the product is safe. the plaintiffs and their attorneys argue it's not. they have their evidence that you are going to see in the documentary. but right now johnson & johnson, it is offered $8.9 billion to these plaintiffs. they are trying to set. they say some of the plaintiffs are onboard but some aren't and they still want to have their day in court, including some of the women we spoke to. >> it is fascinating and so interesting to hear from that attorney, from her take on it. really looking forward to the report this weekend. appreciate it. thank you. >> thank you. of course, you can see pam's full report on the whole story this sunday at 8:00 p.m. eastern on cnn. "cnn this morning" continues right now.

good morning. top of the 8:00 a.m. hour. there is a major development overnight happening in ukraine. russia's mercenary boss making a surprise announcement in a video that he is pulling troops out of a crucial battle. his angry vitriolic message to russia's military leaders. the justice department has an insider witness who worked at mar-a-lago as they investigate former president donald trump's handling of top-secret documents. also, 30 minutes from now the april jobs report is going to be released. it could help. it could also hurt. america's banking crisis is flaring up once again. this hour of "cnn this morning" starts right now. welcome back. ukrainian military says we could be witnessing a turning point in the war. the head of russia's wagner mercenary group says he is pulling troops out. key ukrainian city of bakhmut.

russia has been trying to take it for months. ukraine has been pushing back for months. russia suffered stagling losses. the wagner chief is blasting russian military leaders accusing them of denying ammunition from his fighters. he released a video overnight standing next to a pile of dead bodes. dead mercenaries. i want to warn you, we blurred this video, but it is still quite graphic. >> translator: these men here who died today are wagner pmc. their blood is still fresh. you think you are the masters of this life. you think you can dispose of their lives? you think because you have warehouses full of ammunition that you have that right? >> prigozhin says the mercenaries are leaving in five days. if they do, losing thi