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of migrant crossings days before covid era policy ends. we are live at the border. plus, rocket systems sabotaged. sources telling cnn that russia is using electronic jammers to throw off rocket systems in ukraine in some cases causing rockets to miss their targets. how the pentagon is responding. the labor market is on fire but april surprise jobs report is complicating the fed's inflation fight. so what will the central bank do next? following these major developing stories and many more, all coming in right here to "cnn news central". we begin as we often do at the u.s.-mexico border. alejandra mayorkas there for a second day now. red cross volunteers also on the ground helping out with the

growing number of migrants all crossing into texas. even before title 42, as it's known, ends. that trump-era policy allowed the government to quickly turn away asylum seekers due to covid-19. that expires on thursday. border towns are bracing for an immediate surge, really a further surge from where we've been, including el paso, texas, where cnn's rosa flores is. to be frank, it's been a long time coming, but numbers there already great. i suppose the question is how much greater do they expect the numbers to be in the coming days? >> reporter: you know, it's unclear. officials really don't know and they're not releasing estimates. the images here in el paso are still very dramatic. walk with me. i'm in this alley where migrants are setting up, practically, tarps and blankets, to protect themselves from the sun. they're staying underneath, because it's very hot here in el paso right now. the city of el paso estimates

there's about 2,300 migrants in the city streets at the moment. nats on top of all of the migrants that are inside shelters already. at this location, where i'm at, officials believe there's about 1,800 migrants out in the street. now, the scene might change here in the coming days. we don't know exactly how much, but the city does plan to tap into some of the resources that they have. some of the shelters. they're going to start opening shelters. here's the thing. we don't know how much this scene here will change for this reason -- the city of el paso can only hold migrants who turned themselves into border authorities and have gotten processing papers. a lot of the individuals here actually decided to enter the country illegally. the city can't help them. that's why you see a lot of american red cross blankets out here and why the american red cross is here. the city of el paso asking the

american red cross to help, to come on-site, because they can't help individuals who enter the country illegally. now, about the flow. as we anticipate the end of title 42 from talking to sources at uscbp, they anticipate large groups of migrants will continue to be turning themselves in to authorities. a lot of them will be entering illegally, jim. usk uscbp battling a misinformation campaign by trends, national organizations, i.e., cartels. a lot of the cartels lie to the migrants smuggle them in to the country illegally and they end up in camps outside a church here in el paso. jim? >> so help me understand, then, if they're illegally here and you and others know that, why aren't they arrested? >> reporter: you know, because they are in this area of the church and that's the reason

why. you see a lot of these individuals, walk with me, i'll keep walking telling you the story to see the visuals here. a lot of these individuals entered the country illegally and come to churns. why? historically u.s. customs and border protection does not raid or arrest in certain areas, including churches, including schools. so all of these individuals that enter the country illegally know that. u.s. customs and border protection agents also know that and so that's why you see these dramatic scenes of individuals that are not leaving, and that's why i point out that even when the city of el paso decides to open its city shelters next week what we're hearing from them, we're expecting to see the scenes to change a little bit, jim, only because all of the individuals, you'll see them with a lot of manila folders. some walking around if you look closely, also they won't have shoe laces, because when

processed by border patrol shoe laces are removed. processed by border patrol. the city of el paso will be able to take those individuals into shelters, and the reason why is because it's all tied to fema money. fema money is what's funding this disaster declaration by the city of el paso, and they have to follow the rules of the federal government, and that is they can help migrants who decided to enter the country legally, turn themselves in, be processed by border authorities. they can't help individuals who enter the country illegally. >> remarkable view into the system. we node a lot of facets of that system in place many years through multiple administrations. rosa flores, thanks. focusing on the ongoing war in eastern europe. a high-powered weapon system, a game changer in its fight against russia is running into problems on the battlefield. cnn learned russia has had some success jamming the gps of the american-made himars united

nati nations -- units and they miss targets. joining us live, this is, as ukrainians say, a game changer but rendered less effective. >> reporter: immediate game changer arriving in ukraine early last summer, and this is the most celebrated weapons system ukraine received from the u.s. the most feared by the russian side, and that is because it is extraordinarily precise. it can fire six rockets at any give's time. the rockets they have now can go around 50 miles or 80 kilometers and land with a precision around ten feet, but, boris, they are guided in part by a gps guidance system. and that is what the russians have figured out how to jam. it is relatively simple. what has happened is, it has made them less effective. i spoke with the ukrainian source to spoke to drone operators on the front line saying they are not hitting their targets as much. that they are sometimes missing

their targets altogether. what's happened is the u.s. worked with ukraine to come up with workarounds to get around the jamming and russians figure ho you to counteract that counter measure. in the words of one senior pentagon official it is constant tweaking they have to do. a constant game of cat and mouse to keep the tactical edge of that very powerful weapons system. >> so with the ukrainian counteroffensive set to begin essentially at any moment, how might that factor in to the ukrainians aspirations? >> reporter: critical the entire fight and certainly will continue to be for this counteroffensive. ukrainians need these systems in the fight to be able to target weapons depots, radar systems, command and control centers far beyond the front lines. there is a priority now for the u.s. to try to help the ukrainians seek out where the russians are doing this jamming, and simply take it out. because ukrainians really do need the himars for this counteroffensive. >> meantime a top rupgs official essentially saying the u.s. and

russia are on the verge of open warfare after that drone exploded over the kremlin. anymore details on where that drons denying involvement. >> reporter: u.s. very much denying involvement and very much looking into what happened. the white house clear that this is not an american investigation, but you can be sheer intelligence analysts are poring over whatever data they have to figure this out. the u.s. rejecting these, what they call, lies from the kremlin, that the u.s. was not only supporting ukraine in this but had a direct hand. the white house simply called this ludicrous. this type of lying heard from the kremlin before, that the u.s. is not only supporting ukraine in that fight but russia feels it is fighting against all of nato. ukraine denied this not just publicly but privately as well to the white house, of course. >> heard in the last hour from a member of the house arms services committee, rather house

intelligence committee they're set to get a briefing on the drone incident. maybe we'll learn more after that. thank you so much. >> thanks. talk now about the u.s. economy and the balancing act that keeps getting toughercoming sboob today's new jobs report economists expecting 180,000 jobs added in april. em mothers added a surprising 253,000, obviously much more than expected pushing back against other gloomy indicators. stubborn inflation, fears of government default and failing banks. president biden took a victory lap on the positives of the news. >> unemployment rate at 3.4%. which is lowest in 50 years. black employment hit a record low, and the really good news is working-age americans are participating in the labor force at the highest rate in 15 years. not just since the pandemic.

's in 15 years. working women participated highest rate in 75 yearyears. >> joining me, financial global services firm and great to see you. what stands out to you about this report today? >> that unemployment rate simply stunning and participation rate of prime-age women at a new high. struggling to do that a long time now and it's good news, but comes, though, with a bit of a trade-off and some bitterness as well. the bitter side of the pill those over 65 are not participating in the labor force as they have in the past and those over 55 are not participating in the labor force as they have in the past. that is a residual of the pnd pandemic and the care crisis in the united states. people in 50s, mid-50s, in particular, women saying they're

dropping out of the labor force to either care for an elderly parent or for children, their children. their grandchildren nap underscores the child-care crisis we have. good news, women are driving the participation rarity it's coming up and exceeded 1999 levels, which is just stunning. bad news, still lagging all competitors in prime-age women participation and in male participation rate. the participation rate just north of the border in canada is much higher among women ages 25 to 54 as it is among men. so we're still trying to catch up, but good news we're beginning to. the other part about the data i think is important is the downward revisions we saw. march the weakest month in terms of overall employment gains with revisions, downward revisions quite large, we've seen since december of 2020 when employment actually contracted. what it suggests is we've seen two months in a row after the

longest string of upward revisions to data we'd seen on record is two months in a row of downward revisions nap means could be at a tipping point where we're now overcounting the number of workers each month. good news is it won't affect the unemployment rate. it's extremely low. under 4% for 15 month, consecutive months straight. longest string of unemployment rate below 4% since 1969. that's very important for a couple of reasons. most important to the federal reserve is, that is also an era that the fed thought, the fed was in a combating inflation mode and didn't defeat inflation back then and also above what the fed estimates as a non-inflationary rate of unemployment. >> all right. just so much to take in there. sure appreciate all of your expertise and laying it all out for us. thanks soap much for joining us

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department store dressing room in the mid-1990s. we're following the trial. this tape of the deposition is a whole run, an hour. what are the newest pieces we've learned from it? >> reporter: jim, this is the video deposition played before the jury yesterday, who has been sitting through this seven-day battery and defamation trial. e. jean carroll sued trump reallying he raped her in the mid-1990s and defamed her when saying she's not his type. he didn't know her and she made up the story and it was a hoax. this is the first time that we're going to see now what the jury saw yesterday. the first time the public will see how donald trump answered these questions. this comes from the deposition he sat for in october of last fall. so take a listen. >> read the next -- go ahead. that she's not my type? yeah. because it's not politically correct to say it and i know

that but i'll say it anyway. she's accusing me of rape. a woman that i have no idea who she is. it came out of the blue. she's accusing me of rape raping her. the worst thing you can do, the worst charge. you know it's not true, too. you're a political operative also. you're a disgrace, but she's accusing me and so are you of rape and it never took place, and i will tell you, i made that statement and i say, well, it's politically incorrect. she's not my type and that's 100% true. she's not my -- >> reporter: so there you see trump being asked the specific going right to the heart of this case did he make those statements, says he did and denying a battery claim he raped her. of the whole deposition this is the most agitated he has appeared. at other points very much hunched over hands clasped. you can see becomes quite

agitated d about this. there's a lot more to it. we're in the process cutting it up but will have more to bring you, jill. it's a sense how trump handled this deposition about 48 minutes long. >> a familiar tactic, right? attack the person accusing him in very personal terms. thanks so much. joining us now cnn's new chief legal analyst, laura coates is here to discuss this and let's talk about both sides of this trial as you noted to me just now. it's a battery and a defamation trial. two pieces of this. let's begin with the allegation of the attack. the rape here. part of trump's defense, i find almost mind boggling is for him to say that he feels it helps defendants out, he's not my type and therefore i would not have touched her. i suppose his argument here, but an additional piece of this we see him mistake a picture of his -- of jean carroll.

no. that's my wife. second wife at the time, marla maples which undermines his argument. he just mistook jean carroll for his wife at the time. regardless listen and have people get a listen and then your reaction. >> i don't even know the woman. let's say i don't know -- thats marla -- >> you're saying marla's in this photo. >> that's marla. yeah. my wife. >> which woman are you pointing to? >> here. >> the person you pointed to was e. jean carroll. the woman on the right is your, then wife mara. >> this is the picture. is that -- it's very blurry. >> yeah. >> i mean, just part of his defense, she's not my type but just mistook her for his then wife. is that material? >> keep in mind two things here. remember, he's accused of battery. rape allegations come in.

why this, is she my type, not my type statement is not for ma lish maliciousness and what is told you. it's about power not the laws of attraction. the whole point making that statement leading in to it suggesting she lied about any relationship they may have had in interaction. saying i don't know her. not my type. would never have done this. backing up his claim she is a liar. that's a form of the defamation here. remember, nothing about an insult. you can insult somebody in this world. if you actually publicize a statement that is a false assertion of fact, not a matter of opinion, but a false assertion of the fact that lowers someone's reputation you're in defamation territory and why calling her a liar, he wouldn't have done this. she concocted the story is important. >> no question. by the way, it sounds somewhat odd, too, the indication being

more likely, claim more substantial if she was my type. regardless, just to an outside observer. not a lawyer. >> think about it. >> to your point about defamation central to the case. play another clip from this deposition in which he calls the case a hoax. have a listen. >> now, in your true social statement on october 12 -- you used the word -- "hoax." specifically you say, it is a hoax and a lie. just like all the other hoaxes that have been played on me the past seven years. do you see that? >> yeah. >> do you recall making that statement? and i take it what they're saying there is -- ms. carroll fabricated her claim that you sexually assaulted her. correct? >> yes. totally.

100%. >> is that relevant to the defamation? that is the defamation assertion here. remember, if you say something is untrue. it's provable to be true or not, and you make the assertion in a way that undermines or damages someone's reputation, credibility, one's integrity, im impugn, those things, ent entir of a defamation case. saw her in a more favorable light or didn't have a lesser opinion. this whether your reputation is damaged. details, intrigued seeing the whole deposition, it gave it that much more weight because he did not testify. have until sunday to know if he actually won't do so. if he chooses not to testify, that ship sailed and that presses the entire deposition. >> and is the standard of

preponderance of evidence supposed to be beyond a reasonable doubt? >> more likely than not. not highest of standards. 50.00001% more. >> different from a crim inal trial. >> yes. >> thanks so much. pudshing back on delaying critical votes. senator feinstein recovers from home from shingles. argument, no slowdown in advancing and confirming judges. her statement blames republicans for blocking some judicial nominees. bring in cnn's lauren foxx on capitol hill. the question, is she right and also how long are democrats willing to wait for her to come back? >> reporter: jessica, the pressure is really mounting on her to step aside, to retire. the argument coming from her colleagues, some saying she's

had a very impressive three decades of service on capitol hill, but that it is time for the 89-year-old to step aside, if not coming back soon. in fact, the "new york times" editorial board wrote this today in a piece saying "if members can't effectively represent their constituents they should not hesitate to turn their job over to someone who can. ms. feinstein owes california a responsible decision." now, the argument from senator feinstein's office is that her absence has not had the kind of impact that some democrats have painted a picture of. in a statement yesterday senator feinstein said there has been no slowdown. when i return to the senate we will be able to move the remaining qualified nominees. the issue, jessica, on capitol hill is not necessarily the judicial nominees that were in the pipeline ready to go on the senate floor. democrats still have advantage there. the issue is when it comes to the senate judiciary committee

without senator feinstein's presence, they now have an k equally divided committee. they get stuck in committee meaning you cannot move forward with a floor vote. the main issue happening now. during her absence, yes, annal annal -- able to advance many nominees, but they're running short on a timeline and gone much longer the amount of judges in the pipeline starts to dry up. >> we just don't know when she will be back. thanks so much. boris. republican front-runner for the north carolina governor's seat mired in controversy. he mocked survivors of the parkland school shooting while they protested for gun control, even calling them media prostitots. ahead, another north carolina politician in trouble. pleading guilty to carrying a

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the republican front-runner for north carolina governor in 2024 is under renewed scrutiny for statements he made mocking the teenage survivors of the 2018 mass shooting at marjory stoneman douglas high school. this man, north carolina lieutenant governor mark robinson used social media to attack several of the parkland students for their add vocacy f

spoiled, media children and median prostitots. and joining us, andrew, you've sifted through a lot of robinson's social media posts, mostly gone unreported. what did you find? >> reporter: that's right. first the context here is that robinson was 50 when making these remarks. the students were 16, 17, 18. he was an opponent of gun control who became famous because a speech of him speaking out against gun control in 2018 went viral. those students, of course, founded the march 4 our lives gun control movement in the aftermath of that shooting in parkland, florida. walk us through a few posts made on social media. first, take a look at this post here he made about the students, and this is less than a week after the shooting saying that the students were using it

solely for fame, riding a river of blood from the devil, according to him. the next comment from robinson that he made on social media, he refers to the student activists as communists or marxist socialists, talking to people on his facebook account comparing them to nazis, and then when robinson apparently got some backlash for his comments he put out a tweet in which he actually mocks people who are saying, you shouldn't be making fun of these students. he tweeted the laughing/crying emoji several times saying that the students needed to know their place when it came to being activists for greater gun control measurements. we did reach out to robinson's office a few days ago to ask about these posts. we did not hear back from them or get any comment.

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near misses. at least seven close calls this year alone. joining me to discuss this -- stand by. going to the southern border where the homeland security secretary alejandra mayorkas is standing by. listening in briefly. >> in a posttitle 42 environment we will be using our xpaexpedit removal authorities under the united states code allowing us to remove individuals very quickly. we will by may 11th finalize the rule that we publish in a proposed format that provides that individuals who do not access our lawful pathways will be presumed to be ineligible for asylum and have a higher burden of proof to overcome that presumption of ineligibility. we are building lawful pathways and we are delivering consequences for those who do not use those meaningfully

accessible pathways. the message is very clear. we are coming with the relief that our laws provide to the individuals in need. the border is not open. it has not been open, and it will not be open subsequent top may 11th, and the smugglers who exploit vulnerable migrants are spreading misinformation. they are spreading false information, lies in a way to lure vulnerable people to the southern border, and those individuals will only be returned. to the individuals themselves who are thinking of migrating, do not believe the smugglers. please, access the official government publications. please, access the -- the official government information on the department of homeland security website for accurate information, because you are

being deceived, and you are risking your lives, and your life savings only to meet a consequence you do know expect at our southern border. to meet our objectives we have been and continue to surge resources. personnel, transportation capabilities, airplanes to effect a greater number of removals every week. additional facilities, the remarkable facility that the united states border patrol set up here in collaboration with the community of brownsville. this was set up in just 72 hours. we are surging resources. earlier today we also announced a distribution of additional funds to border communities nonprofit organizations and several interior cities to meet their needs in their partnership with us to address the situation at our border and to address the

humanitarian needs of migrants. we approximately $330 million for betterment of those organizations. we have a plan. we are executing on that plan. i have come to mccallon in brownsville to see firsthand that plan in action. fundamentally, however, fundamentally we are working within a broken immigration system that for decades has been in dire need of reform. that is a fact about which everyone agrees, and we urge congress to fix our broken immigration system, and until then, we will do everything that we can within our authorities to provide an orderly and safe pathway for individuals who qualify for relief under the laws. united states of america. thank you, and with that i will turn it over to deputy

commissioner huffman of customs and border. >> thank you, secretary. >> listening there to the homeland security secretary alejandra mayorkas speaking from the southern boarder in advance of the end of title 42 at it's known. covid era rule which tightened or gave border patrol greater leeway to turn away potential migrants among the changes the secretary saying the administration is implementing is raising the threshold for asylum petitions to be improved. we'll continue, of course, to monitor the situation and have reporters on the border. turning back to another member of the cabinet. the transportation secretary. pete buttigieg. mr. secretary, thanks, first, for your patience there as we went to the border for a brief diversion. >> thanks for having me on. >> so back to the topic we were discussing prior to going to the southern border's that is a shortage of air traffic controllers, two out of ten positions currently unfilled. you got a numbers problem there.

right? i wonder how you're going to solve it? >> well, right now we've got about 11,500 controllers. the optimal number is closer to about 14,500 and got a report to congress laying that out. controllers in training and a number eligible to retire. to get the numbers where they need to be we are hiring right now. there is an application window open this week and i encourage anybody who is interested in a career that, by the way, is not just meaningful and purposeful, but also pays quite well, to consider applying. let me also say this is yet another example of what is at stake in the question of what our budget is going to be next year. the house republican plan just passed through the house if that were to become law that would stop us completely from hiring air traffic controllers, and this is no time to do that. you know, we've seen a lot of

improvements in terms of air service this year. the last four months cancellations below 2%, but if you stop us completely from being able to hire and train air traffic controllers, there's no way we can guarantee to continue delivering results, which, we've been working very hard and this would make it that much harder. >> i want to get to budget negotiations. briefly, already may 5th. summer's coming rapidly. takes a long time and rightfully so to train up air traffic controllers. how much of that gap, several thousand, you noted in controllers, will you be able to fill in time for the summer season? >> let me be clear. controller availability is not the cause of most cancellations and delays we see, and the gaps seen have built up over years. this is nothing we can't prepare for going into this summer, but this is part of why we're working so hard to train new air traffic controllers. we got 1,500 who came in, in the

last cohort for this year. the president's budget has resources to bring another 1,800 onboard, but if the house republican budget were to pass, we would be completely stuck. we would have to stop training at exactly the moment when we needed to do even more and not less. whether talking about safety, air traffic controllers, any of the other important work we do in this department. >> the administration, the presidential position is well known. it does not -- they do not want to negotiate with republicans on this, but, again, another math prop problem. you don't have votes in the house. passed a budget you don't like. the president, met with the cabinet earlier today calling this a manufactured crisis. the political fact, the simple political fact you know politics that the administration has to negotiate now or risk not raising the debt limit, and all the financial consequences? >> well, the president was very clear. i was with him earlier today as he made those remarks that, of course, we negotiate budgets. so we're negotiating the budget

right now and part of what i expect will happen when the president hosts speaker mccarthy at the white house next week. budgets are negotiable. that's a normal process. whether america pays its bills is not. absolutely appropriate to negotiate on the details what the budget will look like but not appropriate to negotiate over whether to destroy the american economy. that is what republicans have, in the house, have threatened with this debt ceiling fight. let's take the fault off the table. 200 years u.s. has never defaulted on its debts. that's not a negotiation over how much debt to take on. it's the equivalent of deciding whether to pay your mortgage bill when it comes in the mail. the u.s. always pays its bills and if we come even close to not dock doing that, the result, economic destruction. put that off to the side and then, of course, there's going to have to be a give and take, push and pull a negotiation which is under way. the president's negotiating position was put forward in this

very detailed budget. >> zero in on give and take. republican proposal includes things like expanding work requirements for medicaid, food stamps, something that you, the president opposes. where are you willing to give ground? can you name a category where you and the administration or the president and administration would be willing to give ground? >> again, the president has spelled out in a great deal of detail what our opening position is as an administration, and the republicans have passed this bill, which if you just do the math on it, yeah. definitely kicks people off medicaid, affects education and v.a., very upsetting to me as a veteran and cut railroad safety inspection, stop us firing air traffic controllers and earlier this year, the air systems mission. we need to understand at a higher level of detail.

for example, some house republicans denied some of their own math in terms what the bill amounts to. is theral another category they haven't made clear? lay it out. exactly the kind of thing they can and i think that will go on in the negotiations. the president is hosting those. >> can you -- make for cuts? asked the same question of republican lawmakers, by the way. >> we're not going to negotiate against ourselves. right? we need to actually have a reasonable conversation about what's possible here. but we're always looking for savings. here at the department, for example, looking at ways to use technology in order to save on everything from the day-to-day operations of the department to savings for the aviation system. use gps technology making about 150 new air routes possible, more efficient than in the past leading to cost savings. we love finding opportunities to deliver savings. let me also emphasize. >> we have to leave it there.

>> cuts the deficit. >> we will have to leave it there. i appreciate you taking time and patience earlier. transportation secretary pete buttigieg. boris, to you. discontinued baby powder causing cancer. thousands of women and men claim that johnson & johnson's talc baby powder is responsible for their health issues. the $400 billion company vehemently denies the claims but is facing nearly 40,000 lawsuits related to those allegations. watch this clip. ♪ >> it started in spring and summer. i was starting to feel like i wanted to have kids. so i saw a doctor, and she told me, yeah. we should do your follicle count and the next day i got the results that just said, yeah. your count is fine, but you have malignant masses.

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sold and that decades of scientific testing and study have shown that our talc is safe and does not cause cancer. >> reporter: i also asked about internal memos at johnson & johnson from the 1950s with executives raising concerns about asbestos. all going to unfold this sunday night. >> wow. look forward to wage watching sunday night. new episode of the story with anderson cooper. "shaken: baby powder on trial." thank you for that. 8:00 p.m. eastern. stape with cnn. we're back in n just a few moments.

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