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you are so lucky! [gayle] broadcast and cable networks i feel like that needs to be celebrated. >> a new era in television. >> broadcast and cable networks face a growing competitor, online programming. >> it would take a revolution for someone like me to have a career as an actor, and the revolution was netflix. >> there's a new player in the original content game. >> it's bedtime. >> just flooded ideas of actor. >> the people that are going to change the narrative out there is us. >> there's an avalanche of new streaming services. >> when you play the game of thrones, you win or you die. >> this is going to be so fun. ♪

♪ television used to be, here's what we're showing you and here's your only chance to see it. when there were fewer tv options, there wasn't as much room for experimentation and creativity that we've seen an explosion of. >> coming into 2010, hbo was the king of the prestige drama. >> beautiful, ignorant bastards.

>> once score say zee does boardwalk empire. >> as an actor, that's where you wanted to work. you wanted to be on hbo. >> i was supposed to dump y'all off and report back to the cp. >> then why are you still here? >> i like to watch the new guys sweat. >> for tv, it felt like the closest place you could get to being in a feature film. >> and then where tv goes next, also on hbo, is peak tv with "game of thrones." what hbo hasn't done yet is fantasy. so, the books by george r. martin, in a way, they read like an hbo show. okay. let's take t lord of the rings and give it the psychological complexity and the real politic of an hbo show. >> when you play the game of thrones, you win or you die.

>> everybody is vying for the throne, as the title suggests. and to get there, they're going to do incredibly violent things to each other. and it's going to prove that adults will watch crazy fantasy sci-fi stuff with dragons in it and think it's the best thing that ever happened. >> one thing that sells it initially is that they do an extremely good job of casting. one of the first characters that pops out for everyone is tierian. >> let me give you some advice, bastard, never forget what you are. the rest of the world will not. >> it was massive in every respect in terms of its ambitions, in terms of its story telling, in terms of its budgets, its locations, its attention to detail. it became a huge phenomenon. >> my mother tells me a king should never strike his lady.

>> the way the show started out was so misogynistic. every woman went through hell, but they persevered and they ended up as the ones that were really calling the shots, the ones that were leading armies, the ones that were basically fighting for the throne. >> and the emmy goes to "game of thrones." >> it dominated the awards circuit. it won multiple emmys. it was on the lists of everyone from catch phrases to moments within the show. and by tend, all that was less about how big were the dragons and more about the character studies. >> hundreds of thousands of people have signed a petition demanding a remake of the final season. >> and by the final season, it was just limping to what many just agreed was a very disappointing finale. >> most great shows are unlike anything that has come before them. what hbo kept doing was going after something else new.

that was their secret weapon. >> this is kind of ambitious television that hbo had creatively pioneered, which was when cable channels like fx and amc got into the original programming business. and they're willing to take chances on shows like "mad men." and then "the walking dead" was an extended preacher feature. "the walking dead" on amc was a gigantic zombie show at a moment when people were loving zombie things. >> "walking dead" really captured everyone's attention. it just has this explosive moment across social media. people can't stop talking about it. because of that, amc kept renewing it season after season. >> it was a show people responded to because it was gross and terrifying and fun and visceral in all of those ways that "mad men" is cerebral and precise. >> the blissed out, crossed leg

don draper, eyes closed up in malibu, it's just a landmark moment in television. but the other great moment people remember is peggy olson striding in like a badass. there's such a sense of f you to it. it's really powerful. >> amc was no longer american movie classics. what they stood for was quality programming. >> we went to amc because, frankly, amc was the only outfit that was asking us to do the show. >> cooking is art, and the shit i cook is the bomb, so don't be telling me. >> "breaking bad" is the story of a chemistry teacher who finds out he's dying from cancer. and what he decides to do as a means of providing for his family is to make meth with his former student who is now a drug dealer. >> "breaking bad" say show that struggled to find an audience in its early years. >> i was blissfully unaware of

the terrible trouble we were with viewership-wise. we were right on the razor edge of being cancelled. >> but once its reruns started running on netflix in the 2010s, it really took off and exploded and became a phenomenon in a way that it just had not been before. >> from an acting perspective, bryan crantson gave one of the ultimate enduring performances. >> a guy opens his door and gets shot and you think that of me? no. i am the one who knocks. >> this is a guy who was hell bent on a very specific philosophy. he was dying and he was going to go out rich. and it ended up being both scary and immediately recognizable was the birth of a story-telling icon. >> say my name. >> heisenberg. >> you're goddamn right.

>> oddly enough, it became walt's criminal partner, jesse, who became the moral center of the series. >> i am not turning down the money. i am turning down you. >> which is a funny irony. the writers were set to kill off jessie pinkman at the end of the final season. >> he ends up losing so very much throughout that series. >> and you're? >> saul goodman. i'm mr. mali na's attorney, and you're in violation of his constitutional rights. >> when they said they were going to do a spinoff of "breaking bad" about saul goodman, i couldn't imagine what they were thinking. >> set out to keep our crew working and to keep working ourselves. let's do a spinoff. let's do "better call saul." and we sold it without really knowing what we're going to do. people would be amazed at how little we knew in those early days. >> they revealed that he was not really saul goodman, that before

that he was this guy named jimmy mcgill, who was a much more complicated person, much more symp thetic. . >> i've been doing the right thing for all these years, and where has it gotten me? >> they wanted jimmy to turn into saul by the end of season one, but we like jimmy. >> i'm fine with this. >> me too. wait until you see the fossil. >> if jessie pinkman was the key to unlocking the character of walter white in "breaking bad," i think the key to unlocking the character of jimmy mcgill is kim lexler. >> kim lexler may be one of the greatest characters created in the first decade. there's a scene where jimmy brings her in for the first time. >> come on in. >> what? >> just come on. trust me. >> he decides to try to rope this stock trader into paying for this $50 shot of tequila

they can't afford. as soon as she realizes what they're doing, there's just a flicker in her eye like, oh, okay, and she just rolls with it. >> gisele? gisele sinclair. >> lovely. >> as the show progresses, it becomes a tragedy because for various reasons, jimmy becomes this character, saul goodman. >> you can't conceive of what i'm capable of. i'm so far beyond you. ♪ ♪

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[theme music] [david] the decision for netflix to go with some original programming at first seemed almost counterintuitive. the decision for netflix to go with some original programming at first seemed almost counterintuitive. >> what the [ bleep ]. >> but it turns out to be absolutely brilliant. this was a company that used to buy movies and television shows from other studios and then stream them through this portal. then it realized, wait, we're becoming too successful and everyone else is realizing how successful they are. what do we have to do? we have to become a studio. >> welcome to washington. >> by happenstance, we had a meeting with a production team that was making "house of cards." they kind of mentioned david fincher is going to direct it and we've got kevin spacey starring, and i immediately lit

up because i loved the original "house of cards." we went into the meeting and we sat and we said, we will give you a two-season order, no notes -- which was completely unheard of at the time. >> the new netflix drops $100 million to create the television show "house of cards." >> i think the writing for "house of cards" set the stage to do deep serialized story telling. >> very nice to meet you, ms. underwood. >> drive safe. there's a lot of ice on the road. >> you kind of want to take a shower after watching it, but, oh, my god, i've got to see what happens next. >> they drop all episodes at the same time, and this is when the netflix revolution begins. >> they really are the streaming company that people think of first and foremost, and it's because of the original content now. it's not just a place to go and binge watch old episodes of "breaking bad" anymore.

>> orng is the new back is based on a book based on a woman who went to prison and writes a book about her prison experiences. it wasn't just women in prison. what got them there? >> look at you blondie? what did you do? >> aren't you not supposed to ask that question? i read you're not supposed to ask that. >> you read that? you've been studying for prison? >> you start to see all these other worlds you haven't seen on tv. >> chocolate and vanilla swirl. >> there's a whole long list of conventional wisdom of what tv stars look like. we didn't have all that conventional wisdom baked into us. >> pretty much all the main characters are women, and a very diverse group of women. and not just in terms of race. they're diverse in terms of sexuality and age. and the prison in oits own kind of way becomes their community. >> that's right.

burn this [ bleep ]. >> "orange is the new black" came out of nowhere. i remember people saying, oh, my god, you have to watch this. you love the characters and you love the plot and you couldn't stop hitting that next button. >> it's great that the show had a big audience. it's great that it played internationally. but it also broke out incredible stars. danielle brooks, natasha lyonne, and laverne cox, a trans character in the lead, who becomes the first trans woman on the cover of "time" magazine. >> sorry. >> that's okay, honey, you can look. i spent a lot of money for it. >> if you didn't have netflix before, you had to have netflix because everyone was talking about that. >> it's an antihero story, except it's animated and a comedy and it's about a horse. >> hey, buddy. pass me that bottle of vodka. >> is that really how this works? >> it's open bar. don't be a dick.

>> with bojack, i love the idea of an alcoholic horse chaenging the conversation about mental illness. i thought, i've got to be a part of this. >> hey, it's bedtime. >> it's fine. i can talk to you and also judge these women's bodies at the same time. what do you want? >> a comedy about depression seemed incredibly novel. people really did fall in love with the show because it really is so unique. at the end of the day, we want these shows to be relatable, collectible. >> maybe i'm doing it wrong. maybe she knows i'm doing it wrong. >> one thing we knew for sure from streaming everyone else's content is people's tastes are wildly diverse. the netflix brand was about personalization. we wanted to make your favorite show and my favorite show. sometimes you turn on tv because you just want to escape. sometimes you want to laugh. >> sorry. are you hiring actors to play wrestlers or are we the wrestlers? >> yes? >> sometimes you turn on the tv because you want to connect and

you want to cry or you want to be scared. and other times, you just want to shut your brain off and just be entertained. and we have to have something for everyone in that model. >> the back eauty of "stranger things" for me, it's t goonies meets the peelspielberg movie. they did a great job of draeging you back into an era. >> it is the nostalgia factor, but the story is good too. it's about these dungeons & dragons nerds who live in this world with an upside-down world that have a monster. and emerging eleven. she has these powers. and she's the only one that can face off against the demogorgon. >> everyone had turned down "stranger things" prior to us.

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[theme music] what were his exact words, please? [carrie] an american prisoner of war has been turned. ♪

>> an american prisoner of war has been turned. >> in "homeland," damian lewis plays a marine who was captured and held for several years. during that time, he converts to islam. the central question is when he comes home, is he a hero or a terrorism in disguise. this man's heroism is only in question because of his faith. >> the main character, played by claire danes, struggles with bipolar, and that's something the show digs into. >> there's no understanding. they offer me blue. they offer me black. is green so hard? is green elusive. i'd give my kingdom for a green pen. >> carrie mathson, in many ways, is wearing and has internalized the strain and the stress and the damage of these years of

war. >> i just remember this still being a really big deal at the beginning of this decade. claire danes, movie actress, has come to television to play this complicated character. >> if i have a chance to work in this -- i will. >> what started in the 2000s was the graduate elimination of the mid-budget movie. you have this great class of character actors looking for satisfying material, and they're not finding it in movies. they started to come to showtime and places on cable. >> how would you like your eggs, sweetie? >> fluffy. >> "shameless" is based on a uk television series about a dysfunctional low income family. >> frank gallagher, father, mentor, acaptain of our little ship. >> people just fell in love with this really messed up family.

>> showtime also makes radon van, everyone's uncle or stepfather's favorite show. they really loved this pulpy decent into the dark side of hollywood that just kept going and going. >> you came at me. >> because you're a criminal, bob. >> and comes off "homeland," plays a hedge fund messenger. >> what's the point of having money? >> we're dealing with increasing wealth disparity, increasing shadiness from the financial sector. all of this is tied up between lewis and paul giovani. it's a combination of crowd pleasing elements all at once. >> i came out here to be a movie star, did screen tests and everything. >> jessica lange goes to television and gave "american horror story" the clout. for the first time in her career, she was revered. >> "american horror story" is an

"amityville"-style horror story. when they announced the second season, the question was how. each season has one continuing story line, and then the next season, it reboots. when they went to year two, they retained almost the entire cast, gave them completely different roles, put them in a new situation, and they hit it out of the park. >> the thing is decapitating women, three of them so far. >> i see you for exactly who you are. >> i had four seasons, and each year was a marvelous character. you know, i mean, everything changed from one year to another, which made it very interesting for me. >> life is to be lived. >> ryan murphy says this is when these women, these actresses, reach their fruition and are getting these incredibly juicy roles. >> kathy baits, oh, my gosh, she was almost really unrecognizable

a couple of those seasons. one year, sarah paulson played a woman with two heads. >> i think she likes it. >> shut your disgusting mouth you slut. >> "american horror story" was so good in showcasing its actors, and "fargo," in addition to that, was brilliant at showcasing the possibilities of the anthology format. >> you going to hit me? that's a laugh. >> i heard they were going to make something called "fargo," i thought, what, a sequel? it wasn't a sequel at all? instead, it was a whole other sensibility. >> you have three seconds to pick your ass up and get out of here or i'm going to squash you like a bug. >> what he proved was as long as the logic held and was authentic, you could go anywhere with how cruel and odd and weird this story was. >> each season, as it comes back, it's a different set of characters that is in some way connected to what happened before but mostly its own thing.

>> it's a difficult challenge, but they found a unique way around it and brought in some exceptional talent. and that raised the bar for television. >> in the new age of tv, the anthology gave movie stars a way to feel comfortable doing tv. they are not trapped into this box of working as the same character for 20 years. the same time, there is enough material to explore a character and have different dimensions. woody harrelson and matthew mcconaughey, they bring such stature. >> three months i don't hear a word from you -- >> you asked. >> yeah. and now i'm begging for you to shut the [ bleep ] up. >> in "true detective," you have the opposite of a buddy cop movie. they're two cops that don't get along, don't have the same approach, played by matthew mcconaughey and woody harrelson. >> you are like the michael jordan of being a son of a bitch. >> for matthew mcconaughey, it

was a step up. he mastered these speeches, this world view, in a way that nobody had seen come. >> and that is a terrible and secret fate of all life. you're trapped. >> the broken down mcconaughey versus the younger one, you just didn't realize he had these different levels. >> you had the caliber of talent on camera that you didn't normally get. these anthology-type shows are leading the way to change television in the next decade. >> general rule was everybody's lying. period. how far we take an idea is a question of willpower. because progress... is a matter of character.

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[theme music] thank you so much for coming. what an amazing turnout. ♪ thank you so much for coming. what an amazing turnout. >> "parks and recreation." it's a story of leslie, the character played by amy poehler, trying to change the world by changing the parks and recreation department in a small indiana town. >> works with "the office" and he comes in and brings us "parks and recreation." >> the first season paints lesley as a new version of michael scott from "the office." >> from time to time when i think of an eloquent saying or phrase, i have tom write them down. >> here's lesley's quote from wednesday.

>> i think they realize that that energy doesn't work for amy poehler, who's a much sunnier person. >> everybody ready? >> this character, lesley nope, is a huge optimist who overpromises, but she has zero skills. and there's nothing cool about her. and i really like playing that kind of character. >> this is going to be so fun. i'll bring s'mores. >> just as the decade turns, "parks and rec" gets a revamp. they go from cringe to a kind of wide-eyed optimism. and when they change, that show takes flight. >> giddy up. >> they found a way to make leslie aspirational. mike shirt is an optimist. he believes that if you get good people together, sometimes you can get good results. >> mike shirt followed "parks and recreation" up with "brooklyn nine-nine," which in its own way is perhaps more challenging because you're attempting to do an optimistic

show about how the nypd blue operates. >> captain, hey, welcome to the murder. what are you doing here? >> if you look at the throughline of what mike shirt does, he creates this workplace family. "brooklyn nine-nine" was able to get away with that magic, not only get away with it, excel with it. >> but it became more and more difficult with every passing season because we were supposed to find they're bumbling lovable, as the bumbling of actual cops became more and more disturbing and terrifying. >> i promise you we're going to get you justice. >> yaerks we'll see. >> i think at a certain point, mike did realize that grounding these optimistic stories in our actual world was becoming more and more complicated. >> oh, look at this. they added a tenth dimension. >> and suddenly "the good place" is a show where its connection to the real world is very, very

limited. >> "the good place" is a comedy set in the afterlife. kristen bell plays this awful person who gets into heaven. >> your life has ended and you're now in the next phase of your existence in the universe. >> i don't feel bad at all doing a spoiler alert about this because it's been enough years. the entire first season, you thought ted dan seine is her angel in heaven, but it turns out -- >> this is the bad place. >> oh, no, no, no. >> it's not heaven at all. >> and whole series changes. >> you thought we would torture each other. and we did for a little. but we also took care of each other. >> a workplace comedy that manages to be one of the most thought provoking story about showing up for each other and our communal condition. >> just going to grow up and become boring old white people. >> most of our friends are white

actually. >> okay. can everybody just calm down and go back to their own conversations. >> "modern family." this is a phenomenal show. this is a show that took every single second it was on show and it was going to make you laugh. >> oh, you look adorable. >> adorable? i'm not a puppy. >> it was meant as a compliment. >> you look super sexy. well, we tried everything. >> "modern family" is an interesting one because you have these characters who are upper, upper middle class. also you have a gay couple adopting a child. that's in the first episode. you know exactly who they are. there's no attempt to hide anything. >> it's time to play everyone's favorite game. >> let's blame the gay parents. >> shall we go on? >> we have two men living together being part of a larger family. it's part of the show, part of the fabric of the show. but the tensions that are there are not necessarily related to

sexual orientation or race or class. >> you'll see the mythical and majestic black family out of their natural habitat and still thriving. wave. they'll wave right back. >> what kenya barris does with "blackish" is they are solidly upper class. >> i'm not going to have you torturing my son. what are you wearing? what are you wearing? >> and i love the fact that the robinsons of "black-ish" are real life. they have to deal with police violence and what that means and what they tell their children about dealing with police and how they have opposing police. >> the police are damn thugs. >> not all police. >> only 92%. the other 8% are advisers on "law & order" episodes. >> kenya barris comes from the norman leer school. it says, we are going to tackle these things.

we are going to make it uncomfortable, and we are going to make it funny, like a number of flamily comedies on abc did. >> if we get separated, try and join a white family. you will be safe there until i can find you. >> "fresh off the boat" was like a watershed moment for asian american representation. >> i miss the markets back in d.c. they make me feel so calm. >> it's telling an immigrant story, but it's very funny and each character is not a stereotype. >> parents are going to taiwan, but we're going to d.c. >> oh, your english is very good. >> are you all sisters? >> we got shows that are coming in with a full breadth of different aspects of society that have not been seen on screen, which is really refreshing. and all of that sort of began in the 2010s. >> i researched the history of

coun council yair rahs and found out their totally misogynistic. >> mom says i'm too young to date -- >> but never too young to flirt. when i came out of my mother's womb, i winked at the doctor. >> "one day at a time" was a really good example of a project that when it was announced it was happening by norman leer himself, who was behind the original. people step back and went, why do we need that? and then you watch the show about this cuban american family. suddenly you saw exactly why you wanted it. >> i feel like that's going to happen. she's not going to get deported. >> she could be. >> we're deporting cubans now too? >> what? that doesn't make sense. they should be importing us. >> this is a show that is all about validating the immigrant experience in america. so, it became all the more political and all the more beautiful for them. >> i get it.

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not only is there more tv than ever, but many would say there's more great tv than ever. so much, in fact, that it's impossible to watch it all. >> hey, marshal. right there's good. >> some of the greatest acting on television that nobody ever noticed was on "justified" on fx. >> is it okay if i come a little closer? is that okay? >> you come one more step, i'm going to shoot you. >> ray len often likes to circumvent justice and maneuver people he knows where bad into circumstances in which he can shoot them and it will be justified. >> marshal, i want to tell you something important. >> "justified" is a western that's brought into a southern cop show. >> would you shoot me if you get the chance? >> make me pull, i'll put you down. >> you watch the first season of that show, he's killing people

at a rate of two to three people per episode. and then the second season rolls around and the leap the show takes -- >> i had a life. me and my daddy were just fine. >> no, you weren't. >> shut up! >> okay. >> suddenly there you find the humanity behind all of this, and it is one of the great second seasons in tv history, one of the great leaps that any show has taken. >> can't make these fast enough, huh. >> "the americans" is itself a great part of the fx brand as well. >> "the americans" considered two kgb agents, they're spies -- >> stop. >> -- pretending to be a married suburban couple. >> you're my wife. >> is that right? >> elizabeth, very interestingly, is the sort of hard core idealog believer, a

role tv producer would tend to give to a male. >> i would lose everything before i would betray my country. >> phillip is more drawn to the idea of doing what he feels give a better life in america for his children. >> is that what you care about? >> no, i care about everything. >> not the motherland? >> i did, but our family comes first. >> the central metaphor for "the americans" is that every merge marriage is a cold war, that every marriage is a combat that never actually boils over into come bass. >> i think fx did so much good work that it moved television forward. >> a lot of these networks have been trying to expand their brand. and a lot of how you expand your brand is with a good scripted tight. sun dance tv, a show i will all tell people to watch, a contemplative show about a guy on death row for 20 years and

gets released and is traumatized to learn what the show is like. shows like that get to exist because things keep expanding and there keep being room for more ideas and more different versions of what quality looks like. >> srather than try to compete with what hbo was able to do on a sort of a high class level, they start doing these action shows. these are great, elevated b movie tv shows. and then sometimes cinemax struck gold, like "the nick." you turn a block of programming over to steven societier berg, and in this case, it was brilliant television. >> gentlemen, everyone scrubbed, washed, cleansed, >> "the nick clothe is set in a hospital in the 20th century. owen clive plays their premier physician. he is well respected but also completely addicted to heroin.

>> he is madman. >> so this is madness? >> yet there is method in it. >> steven soderbergh as the director really set the show apart, particularly because of the camera style. it was a show absolutely filmed like a movie as opposed to a television show. >> usa had this reputation. they were the blue sky network. they had all of these shows set in sunny locales and along comes mr. robot, which is this dark cyber punk drama about a hacker named elliott played by rami malek, who is trying to bring down the biggest and worst corporation in the world. >> they're so big, they're literally everywhere. a perfect monster of modern society. >> i remember opening up that script, and i could tell this was just special. a young man who was so anxious but unafraid to take down the system. it just felt powerful. it resonated with me. >> if mr. robot was here, what would he do? >> the first thing he would do

is tell you to stop talking to your imaginary friend. >> that is about as perfect as casting as you're going to come across. that character had to be brilliant, mercurial, odd, and driven, and he was. >> i'm crazy. i have to be crazy, because that didn't just happen, right? this is a delusion. >> if this is a delusion, hit is, i'm a schizo. >> there is a sense of him being off-balance, which keeps the audience off balance. and i think that is something we not wanted to do to trick the audience, but it was a way of essentially bringing them into his world, understanding how conflicted he was. >> for me, it was one of the most cinematic shows of the decade. i think the angles we used were very unpredictable, and you didn't often see shots like that on television. >> "mr. robot" strikes a chord in part because rami malek was incredible, and you just wanted to watch him do anything. but there was also sort of a

level of rising anger at the time about income inequality. it was channeling a level of anger that i think people were starting to feel around then. >> you i know what? >> what? >> sometimes it is a big dick competition. >> "succession" suddenly became the talked about show for hbo. it's basically a fictional account of the murdoch family's life. bryan cox is logan roy, the long-time indomitable head of the family. you have a number of his children all jockeying for position constantly and hoping that ultimately they will be the one to inherit the empire. >> guy, what dad is saying just know your role and execute. >> my worry is kendall may come across as too cool and likable. >> "succession" is the top shelf of television. "succession" is television that seems to be playing at its highest select tlek yul level, and still is incredibly funny. >> oh, dude, he is gone. nazis are terrible, right? >> nazis?

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welcome to downton. [david] downton abbey goes all the way back to upstairs downstairs, the tv series that launched pbs masterpiece theater. welcome to downton. >> "downton abbey" goes all the way back to "upstairs/downstairs," the tv that launched pbs masterpiece theater. >> "downton abbey" is about the aristocrats who lived upstairs and the people who live downstairs and are working for those people. >> and if anyone thinks i'm going pull my fur lock and courtesy to this mr. nobody -- >> were you discussing mr. crowley? >> with "downton abbey" you have this wonderful show that is strangely old-fashioned but with these modern ideas of soap opera. >> you must be mad. >> i am. i'm in the grip of madness. >> i think the turning point for people in "downton abbey" is one of the early episodes where mary sleeps with this man who is visiting downton, and then he drops dead in the bed, and they have to figure out how to get

him out and keep him under wraps. >> mama! >> in the traditional masterpiece world, that is not what you would see on a show like that, and i think that is what really drew people in. >> it's a singular vision of julian fellows and a lot of different wonderful actors just making it work. >> and of course i'll have the weekend. >> we'll discuss this later. we mustn't bore the ladies. >> what is the weekend? >> it's a fantasy, of course. what would it be like to live in this time with titles and manners. it's almost this last element of the monarchy affecting life among people who are not born royals. >> you my wife or my queen? >> i'm both. >> i want to be married to my wife. >> "the crown" is a netflix series that traces the history of queen elizabeth throughout her life. the show appeals to people because it feels like you're inside the palace, watching what happens in a way that we don't often get to see. >> your actions, your breaking of that trust was irresponsible.

>> there is always this weird interest in the royal family. and it was sort of fascinating watching queen elizabeth as a young woman. she so young when she rises to the throne because her father dies, and it's on her to do this thing. >> god save the queen! >> and you appreciate the fact that some of this is fictionalized for dramatic purposes, but it just makes elizabeth so much more sympathetic. >> i think the biggest shot we took is the '60s commitment on the crown. nobody knew back then how it would play out. if you go back to season 1, and you have claire foy playing that character. the last thing you want to do is start all over again, but then boom, it's olivia colman. it's phenomenal. >> there is connectivity you can see in the performances. it doesn't feel like there is somebody else stepping into the role. you really feel like you're getting to know the queen in a way you could not possible do were it not for the show. >> with "downton abbey" and "the crown," we did have this sort of

british mania. >> a serial killer. love those. there is always something to look forward. to. >> you have you these beautiful people having tea and talking calmly in pleasant accents. and of course they have problems. that's what's so interesting to us about it, right? the most privileged people still have problems. >> what do you want to do? >> i want to build a time machine out of your [ bleep ] carcass and make it unhappen. >> reporter: a show with a transatlantic show even though it was made and set in england. he is an american businessman on a trip to london. they hook up for what's supposed to be a one-night stand. she finds out she is pregnant. >> you just don't think stuff like this will happen. >> well, the repeated sexual intercourse between two healthy adults will do the exact thing it's supposed to do. have you ever done a science class? >> a whole relationship playing out in the wrong order. they get pregnant, they have a kid and then they get married, and only then do they fall in love. >> i'll be sure to treat you

like a nasty little bitch. that was a joke. okay. >> 2010s in many ways were the decade of the comedy, like phoebe waller bridge who created "fleabag" about this destructive woman who gets in all these bad relationships and can't stop hess. >> her name is fleabag. that is show sees herself, if that tells you anything. she is grieving her mother's death and the death of her best friend. >> she has this really dysfunctional family, a dysfunctional love life. >> i never managed to actually -- up the bum with anyone before. >> to be fair, he does have large penis. >> and also constantly breaks the fourth wall. she will address the audience. so we're in on it. >> the only thing harder than having to tell your super high-powered anorexic cyst they're you ran out of money is having to ask her to bail you out. >> she feels it herself, and i think that's probably the magic

of that character. because we all kind of feel awful at times. >> the first season is very dark and sad and weird. and the second season is kind of a rom com without ever becoming a rom com. what happens is you realize that the fourth wall breaking is an attempt to disconnect from reality a little bit, and she gets called on it. >> where did you just go? >> what? >> you just went somewhere. there. there. >> and at the end of that series, she waves goodbye us to and walks off. it's such a perfect ending to say i've found the ability to believe i'm worthy of love and i don't need this coping mechanism anymore. one of the highlights of the 2010s was getting to see women get to make shows like that. >> welcome to my mid-life crisis! >> pamela adelynn co-created "better things." she appeared in a number of

episodes of louie and helped him cowrite and then they created their own autobiographical show. >> there is a little dna from louie in the show. but pamela adlon really took over, wearing the hat of star and director. >> i want my face and neck to stop being old looking. that's all. >> it's not directly autobiographical, but it feels in way as though we've learned something about pamela avlon through the character of sam fox. >> you're my mom. you want know if i want to have sex or get high. >> hide things from me, please. >> you watch it and it feels intimate in a what they you're almost spying on somebody, and in many ways i think it's a better show than the one that inspired it. >> you're going to invite me in? >> no. >> why not? >> i can't afford it. >> come on, you really think i'm here for money? >> we do, yes. >> i remember seeing the pilot of "atlanta" and i was oh, you knew it was going to be

different. >> he can do anything. he is actor, director, writer, producer, a recording artist. if he is not an auteur, nobody. >> it's about black people we have not seen on tv before, and it's about people just trying to make it. >> what i'm scared of is being you, somebody everybody knew was smart but ended up being a no it up [ bleep ] that let shith happen to him. >> he plays a college drop-out, kind of a ne'er-do-well. we can't get his life in gear. but he has these friends, and one is an aspiring rapper. he nides i'm going toby your manager. >> latin for hand. >> probably. but i'm going say no for the purpose of my argument. manage comes from the word man, and that isn't really your lane. >> in another era, he would have been an independent filmmaker. and i think that's part of why it's been successful, because in a wave of a lot of new african

american-themed don't, he doesn't really do any of the things that are obvious. >> where are your ancestors from? >> congo, ivory coast. southeastern bantu region. i don't know. this spooky thing called slavery happened and my entire ethnic identity was erased. >> sometimes you'll laugh, other times you might be cringing. but through it all, these characters are really showing who they are and how they react to each situation. >> ma, what about your first day in america that must have been pretty exciting. >> no. i just got dropped off from the airport and your father went to work. i didn't know nobody, and i barely knew your father. >> aziz came in with this pitch that blew us all away in the meeting. >> what about that first day, though? did you go and explore the city? >> no. i sat on the couch and cried. >> an immigrant story that was a comedy, that had a lot of heart, that had license to get very, very serious in any given episode. this was the opportunity to give someone a shott a television who didn't have one before.

>> stop what you're doing, this is citizens arrest. >> this is real. this is a real thing that people can really do. >> lena waithe came to our attention on "master of none." she was a real standout from the beginning. it was one of those wait, who is that? >> here is the deal. she straight, but lately i get some serious vibes from her. >> ago, vibes that she wants to become a lesbian? >> no, vibes that she is curious. >> i had already sold the pilot to showtime which was "the shy." but once i read with aziz the very first time, we could feel it. we just knew there was something interesting about the two of us. >> she came eight times in 30 minutes? how is that possible? >> look, i don't have time to explain lesbianship. i don't have the time. >> he said this is more interesting. you're more interesting. and we're going create a character around you. and i'll never forget ali yang asking me, so how did you come out?

>> are you trying to tell me that you're, you know -- >> lebanese? >> and i started to talk what that process was like. they say this is an episode. and aziz said you have to write wit me. >> i'm just glad you in college and you ain't pregnant and on drug. >> why you worrying about me being pregnant? >> i made sure not call my mom that i was doing it, because it was a very difficult time for her as well. >> mom? i'm gay. >> so i think what i learned in the process of writing that episode was that i wasn't the hero and she wasn't the villain. mom, why are you crying? >> i just -- i don't want life to be hard for you. >> it's a moment and a time i'll never forget, just writing that scene as exactly as i remember it. and of course the fast forward to be sitting across from angela bassett and be reliving that

moment. >> i'm happy for you. >> for us to win the emmy for that, it was like a dream. >> aziz ansari and lena waithe -- >> and when that did happen and for me to give that speech, i knew it was bigger than i was. >> my lgbtqai family, i see each and every one of you. the things that make us different, those are our superpowers. >> and it was moment that said we have to tell our stories. we do. >> thank you for embracing a little indian boy from south carolina and a little queer black girl from the south side of chicago. . this cnn original series, "the 2010s" is brit to you by sling, the tv you love for the price you'll love. "the 2010s" i sling, the tv you love for the price you'll love.

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[theme music] i'm a vapid narcissist when you mix me with alcohol. in case you were wondering. i know that. we get into the 2010s, and we have more women telling women's stories. i'm a vapid narcissist when you mix me with alcohol, in case you're wondering. i know that. >> we get into the 2010s, and we have more women telling women's stories. a pioneer of the flawed female character is meredith grey from "grey's anatomy." >> i make no apologies for how i chose to repair what you broke. you don't get to call me a whore. >> so shonda rhimes, who created this show got us sort of used to this idea of complicated women.

>> people are going the hate her, but i hate her. >> female anti-heros could really run the gamut, depending more on their show. the flaws can be small. they don't have to be murderers. but sometimes they can be. >> i got all of this from being very smart. >> and then you have somebody like selena meyer on "virgin islands p". >> have you ever been called a [ bleep ]? >> many times. >> well, now i have too apparently once. >> julie dreyfuss plays selena meyer, vice president of the united states. not capable but with higher aspirations. >> you do your best. you try to serve the people and then they just [ bleep ] you over. and you know why? because they're ignorant and they're dumb as shit, and that, ladies and gentlemen, is democracy. >> selena meyer is one of my favorite case, on tv ever. she is so ambitious and so ruthless. >> i'll go put together a list of some fun causes, mom. >> oh, that mom thing. let's not do that here either.

>> selena, ma'am. >> yeah, that's it. >> she feels inconvenienced by being a woman. and it's something that i've never seen a character do before. >> excuse me. >> "enlighten" was a show co-created by laura dern, who co-starred in it. >> you look insane! >> laura dern plays a character self involved that nobody ever wants to listen to her. >> you think i'm stupid? is that what it is? do you think -- >> that show starts with an absolute wallop where she's having a complete breakdown. >> i won't bury you. i won't kill you. >> she eventually gets her job back at this big corporation, but they have her working in the basement. she is trying to be like a whistle-blower and uncover some things about the company that are not great. this is a show about an angry woman before we saw a lot of other shows about angry women. it's a show about corporate dissatisfaction. it's a show about feeling

alienated from people around you. i think it was really delving into these things, maybe before people were ready. >> i don't want to freak you out, but i think that i may be the voice of my generation. or at least a voice of a generation. >> "girls" on hbo is very much the vision of lena dunham. it is a show that is simply life as seen through her eyes. >> seriously, i've never met anyone else who thinks their own life is so [ bleep ] fascinating. i wanted to fall asleep in my own vomit all day listening to how you bruise more easily than other people. >> girls is "sex & the city" for a new generation. it's girls navigating careers not very well. and that's kind of what made it great, and that it wasn't polished like "sex & the city." no. they were in crappy apartments. they were broke. they're dating guys that are treating them poorly, and it's

messy. >> what? >> oh my god! oh my god! he paid on me oh my god, stop it! >> people did not like that it was not glamorous, and it was not aspirational, as we like to say. and we had a main character who was not 90 pounds. that was very upsetting for people. and i think really does say a lot mother about people than it says about her. >> why you talk like a white girl? [ laughter ] >> you caught me. i'm rockin' black face. >> "insecure" comes out a year before "girls" ends. and so it was hailed as the black "girls." but when you actually watch the show, issa rae introduces us to these awkward black girl and these people who are beautiful on the screen, and yet they're insecure, they're uncomfortable, and that's also part of our humanity. >> ago, i like that.

you going to do it with the -- >> what about this? >> you know i can't move in those. >> you're right. >> and today was all about me? >> i say me? >> you never get the impression that the girls life was an option for issa and molly. these are women who had to push forward and establish themselves. >> there hadn't been a show that centered on black women that way since "living single," but this was so much nor fist sophisticated. >> she didn't always do the right thing. she didn't always get along with her friends. that's the way real life works and i think the show did the best to reflect that. >> i just want to fast forward to a part of my life when everything is okay. >> at the time the show comes out you this moment of black excellence. there is issa rae and shonda rhimes. so you have more storytelling about black people, but also black women. >> the question i have for you is what are we going to to be

it? >> "scandal" is about olivia pope who is a washington, d.c. fixer, not really caring that much about morals. >> pleasure doing business with you. i thank you. my client thanks you, and i hope to never see you again. >> one of the things that "scandal" did is it increased the velocity of the storytelling as far as you would possibly turn the dial. >> was really exciting television. >> i just saw the dirtiest sex tape i have ever seen in my entire life and it starred his teenaged daughter. >> i think is very few creators in the history of television who have been as successful and prolific as shonda. her story telling is so contemporary. >> how to get away with murder. >> shonda rhimes is the reason why abc owned thursday nights. "grey's anatomy," "scandal" and "how to get away with murder" all created by shonda rhimes. >> it's literally called "scandal." it's called how to get away with murder. the central characters, you can

guess where they are on the morals spectrum. >> i've spent my whole life protecting him. this is yours. you did this. >> laura linney, i don't think it's crazy to see is one of the greatest actors on the planet. her opportunity to bite off a real anti-hero character was the opportunity of a lifetime. >> and i'm going kill you. i'm going to kill you if you don't tell me. >> no you are not. >> i think if you look at julia gardner, she absorbs characters, and she makes this person who is arguably a very bad person very, very likable. >> you're going to be a good sheriff, ronnie. just be careful driving home. >> now you have so many female heroes, anti-heroes, and i think it's opening up lots of possibilities for artists to find their voice. >> smile. >> the more we have different voices out there, that means we're going get different kinds of women. >> get ready for some ice cream, bitch.

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[theme music] you got a review on yelp. oh, wow. [gasps] one star. is that good or bad? it's the lowest rating. in the 2010s, there's a bunch of shows you got a review oniel. >> oh, wow. one star. that good or bad? >> it's the lowest rating.

>> in the 2010s, there are a bunch of shows that started on the web, which is a relatively new thing at the beginning of that decade. shows lime portland yarks that's how they started. >> with fred armisen and carrie brownstein playing a variety of characters like a couple who is losing their entire life because they're trying to binge "battle star glactica." >> that's the last one. >> aggghhh! >> comedy central is another tv network also looking for talent on the internet. >> no big deal. >> all right. >> she is such a slut. >> yeah? >> yeah. no, no, no, i am too. >> "broad city" is another one of these shows that gave birth on the internet that eventually got put on to the television. it was the creation of elana glazer and came to attention of amy poehler and eventually on to comedy central. >> i just degraded my friend for you and i thought we were going

to be paid. >> i can pay you in block. >> you're not a baby. you're a man. >>, no i'm a baby. >> "broad city" is its own special thing i feel like too. it does some really unique things, one of which is this incredibly intense central relationship between just two women. >> well, hello my fancy girl. >> i'm not fancy. i'm disgusting. i went to the bathroom and then i was going to the bathroom, and then a condom fell out of me. >> there is also like pretty ground breaking on a lot of sex stuff. >> like i still really remember the pecking episode. >> right in the butt. >> the "broad city" ladies really brought to it a new level, those kinds of discussion. >>. ♪ she's the crazy ex-girlfriend ♪ >> rachel bloom started on the internet making parodies and

hollywood realized oh, we could probably make a show around this. >> the situation is a lot more nuanced than that. >> "crazy ex-girlfriend lowe is a show we have to start with the title, because i have to tell you, i did not want to watch it at first. it wasn't until it was very clear to me that it was joke about that idea that i waded in and was vastly rewarded. >> i was in new york. i ran into josh. he made me feel warm inside, like glitter was exploding inside of me. then i moved here. i did not move here for josh because that would be crazy, and i am not crazy. >> she is exploring this relationship she has with josh and it's very unhealthy. it's really fun to watch. ♪ i'm about to get a diagnosis, a diagnosis ♪ >> she writes songs related to her own experiences. ♪ my life is about to change ♪ >> and because of that, the

shows feels really authentic to her personal life. >> everybody is so dramatic. >> before we melt we got to go. >> "transparent" came out very early on in the streaming era. amazon would have people make pilots, and then they would post the pilot episodes on amazon for people to stream and then vote. and "transparent" was from the second wave of that. >> dad, what are you wearing? >> i have something to tell you. >> it is the story of a trans woman named moira who comes out to her children. the creator based it on their relationship with their own trans parent, and the show was so much more about how her kids deal with it. >> keep your voice down, all right. >> oh, keep our voice down? that's that's our family religion, right? secrecy. >> i think "transparent" is a show that got a lot of credit for advancing the conversation on trans issues that felt sincere in 2014, and that feels

increasingly insincere with every year that passes, and now its legacy is kind of tarnished. >> actor jeffrey tambor is leaving the show after being accused of harassment. according to the website deadline, allegations were made by two of his transgender colleagues. he insists the allegations are untrue. >> also, he was cast to begin with in the role of a transparent woman. it's a very weird piece of television that feels incredibly locked in the time in which it was made. >> they had a specific mandate to cast authentically queer and transgender people of color. >> "pose" is about drag ball culture during the height of the aids in america. it is about queer family structures, the ways queer people come together and form families that are not of biological origin, but rather of choice. >> keep living. put on your tallest pump and go on and get back out into the

world. you ain't dead yet. there is nothing more tragic than a sad queen. >> i'm not sad. >> billy porter as pray tell is the central father figure throughout this entire series, playing both announcer and mentor to pretty much everyone. >> the recipient has taught us that a house is much more than a home. it's family. >> pretell was an unapologetically authentic character. >> billy porter is terrific as pray tell who has hiv and is sort of waiting to die. in the episode "love is the message," he performs a song. ♪ tomorrow may never come ♪ >> it's gutting and it's groundbreaking, and it's forcing american television to look at this period in history that american culture still doesn't quite want to look at. >> the history that was made

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this decade. >> texas a&m. >> university of wisconsin. >> a lot of what they did was around race, stereotypes, things that people don't normally talk about it. and not only do they talk about them, they made them funny. one sketch was at the time when everybody was making zombie movies. and the zombies are avoiding them because the zombies are racist. >> ain't that something. >> these are some racist mother -- zombies. >> and they start to figure out oh, wait, wait. you're going to walk by me like that? >> what is that? they seriously wouldn't let her eat us. >> mocking the idea of race and racism. but in really sharp and unpredictable way. >> i just want to say to my critics, i hear your voices and hear your concerns. >> maybe if you could chill out for a second, maybe i could focus on some shit, you know? >> one of the best things they're known for is luther, the anger translator where jordan

peele would play president obama and michael keegan key would play his angry translator. >> i have a hot diggity college diploma. >> obama knew he couldn't be the angry black man. all he could do is roll with the punches. >> we do need to stay focused on some big challenges like climate change. >> hey, y'all, if you haven't noticed, california is bone-dry. >> there was this really incredible moment at the white house correspondents dinner when president obama brought out keagle michael key as the anger translator. >> what about our kids? what kind of stupid, shortsighted irresponsible -- >> whoa, whoa, whoa. >> it turns out barack obama lit it up. >> jon stewart decided to leave "the daily show" in 2015 which is just as donald trump was coming up there.

was so much conversation about who was going replace him, and it ended up with trevor noah, this relatively unknown south african. what he did is came in and really brought a totally different perspective. >> south african president is sounding a lot like donald trump, see that, sir? like xenophobia, with just a dash of diplomacy, which is also the title of paula deen's new book. >> the nighttime host that made us laugh in the trump era were veterans of the daily show. >> our main story tonight, and i cannot believe i'm saying this is donald trump. and i say that, i say that knowing that every time his name is said out loud, he has a shattering orgasm. >> "last week tonight" with john oliver is all about activism, but thoroughly researched. he'll pick one subject, drill down on it. >> net neutrality, the only two words that promise more boredom in the english language are featuring sting. >> they basically encouraged viewers to be citizens, to pay attention. this isn't just a passive

democracy. you to be involved in it. >> hello, nation! >> when stephen colbert replaced letterman on "the late show," it was a real big transition for him. and it wasn't until he dug back into his political leanings and got opinionated, that's when audiences really started to respond to him. >> you're not the potus, you're the bloatus. you're the glutton with the button. you're regular gorge washington. you're the president, but you're turning into a real pricktator. >> samantha b. gets her own show. >> let me say one mother to another, do something about your dad's immigration practices, you feckless -- he listens to you. >> this is a male dominated field. there aren't many women. and we finally have that perspective to counter trump's. and she's great. >> when it comes to allegations of is sexual assault, it's like what i say about rat tails. one is too many, and absolutely

disqualifies you from the supreme court. >> when the brett kavanaugh hearings started on "snl" was matt damon as brett kavanaugh ranting about how much he likes beer. >> boys like beer. girls like beer. i like beer. i like beer! >> in this decade, the show has moved more and more towards bringing in either former cast members like maya rudolph as kamala harris or just big celebrities. most famously, alec baldwin as donald trump. >> i've turned over all my businesses to my two sons, beavis and butthead. >> the pinched face, and not understanding things, it was perfect. the characters in the trump administration were just a gift to "snl." >> i would like to begin today by apologizing on behalf of you to me. >> melissa mccarthy just conveys this impression of sean spicer,

which is sort of the bulldozer of bluster. >> i think you're really going to like the hillary clinton that my team and i have created for this debate. >> kate mckinnon was remarkable as lindsey graham. she was great as rudy giuliani. >> vote for jeff sessions because i will bend over backwards for you, alabama, and bend over forwards for mr. trump. >> the downtrodden attorney general who could never do anything right for trump. >> good evening. i'm dr. anthony fauci. first, i'd like the thank all the older women in america who have sent me supportive, inspiring, and sometimes graphic emails. >> it all started off by almost the joke. i was being interviewed bay reporter, and they said something like -- >> which actor would you want the play here? here are suggestions i've heard. ben stiller, brad pitt. which one? >> oh, brad pitt, of course.

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amazon, hulu and netflix are launching more and more original programing. >> towards the end of the decade, you're getting these streamers comineing and televis fragments. there just an abundance. i mean, you can pick your own niche. >> good morning, girls. >> hulu's big show "the handmade's tale" based on margaret atwood's novel about a dystopian future. america has been split after a civil war. it's now a theocracy run by religious rights. >> you will bear children for them. oh, you are so lucky! >> women are in bondage, essentially. when they are of child bearing age, they are put in service of more powerful people to give birth to their babies, whether they want to or not. it's a pretty bleak vision about where we might be head in terms of women's rights. >> we believe fred micklen to

create an environment about women that came forward -- >> those mother. >> when apple tv+ comes, you're thinking what are they going to do? and then you start getting "the morning show" and "ted lasso". >> kick their butts. >> works for me. on three. one, two, three. >> disney is the latest streaming service competing with current offerings like netflix, hulu, cbs all access and apple tv. >> i thought disney+ was going the take over the world, because if you have children, guess what? you got to get disney+. >> the mandalorian is awesome. they've taken the whole "star wars" concept and refined into it a western again. they've simplified it again. jon favreau is a genius. >> oh, and he came up with baby yoda. >> come on, yoda, do the hand thing. >> it was show designed for you to be able to watch it with your parent, your grandparents, your kids, your grandkids.

and that was rare, even in the 2010s. >> with the rise of the streamers, there has been an absolute explosion of content, scripted or unscripted. >> i don't want to be a criminal. i want to be normal. >> "true crime" moved the needle for everybody. it came to the fore as a format that could be reliably counted on to increase viewership. "wild wild country" is something that seemed to come out of nowhere. the footage was unbelievable. you just watched it like that, you know. it had everything. i think that the recent wave of true crime has been based on a desire for almost diy justice. sometimes what you need to fix an injustice is a dogged

storyteller. and that's why the best example of the genre is probably "the jinx." ♪ >> there is a twist in "the jinx" where the perpetrator is caught on tape confessing to the crimes. i remember that confession. everybody was talking about it. >> can't win them all, of course. >> it's still being talked about. it's still very controversial, but conversation was what the point of it was. >> we the jury in the above entitled action find the defendant orenthal james simpson not guilty of murder. >> o.j. made in america went so far deeper than the melodramatic aspect of the o.j. simpson story. it talked about race. it's going back an awfully long time. it ended up being a much greater examination of certainly los

angeles, but also the united states of america. >> i think "o.j. made in america" is certainly the most powerful docuseries of the decade and maybe the most powerful of the decade. >> and it happened in the same year as ryan murphy's "american crime story" installment about the o.j. simpson trial. >> i did not and could not and would not commit this crime. >> and so here is this story that we were obsessed with, and now here we are obsessed with it again. >> it became this kind of reference point for younger generations to understand the way that those murders and the trial consumed the country and how we as an audience turned this into a circus. we couldn't see it at the time, and the series forces us to look at that. >> people are used to learning a lot from television in the form of miniseries. and i think this mixing of somewhat documentary storytelling and the art of

scripted storytelling was so compelling. >> i didn't see a lady or hit anyone. >> raymond saw you hit her. >> who's raymond? >> when they see us was the untold story that duvernay wanted to bring to the screen next. i think people knew the story of the central park five, thou thought they did. but to be able to dig deeper and do it through these performances really connected audiences to the story in a way they hadn't before. it turns out you didn't know much about the central park 5 at all. >> when they see it, a lot of shows were trying to do that, where they were taking an ending that we know, something like ". [ closing bell ] you know that story. you know the tragedy of it. but seeing the faces, it becomes a different thing. it's a horror story.

on the other hand, "watchmen" is a show that used both real history and alternate history and wove trauma into a superhero story. >> damon lindelof took an incredible thing. he took the history of the tulsa massacre and then wove it into the tapestry of "the watchmen." that was probably the first time many people learned about the tulsa massacre. it really framed questions about race, white supremacy and policing via the character played by regina king. a member of the watchmen-style police force. >> if you don't want your kids to worry you're a cop, then why are you a cop? >> i think regina king is giving this incredibly assertive and corrective performance. it's like she's fighting bad guys but she's also fighting hundreds of years of history. >> i've got a nose for white supremacy, and he smells like bleach.

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[theme music] my wife would love this. come next time with your wife. nope. [laughter] i thought maybe people wouldn't wanna watch somebody feed phil my wife would love this. >> come next time with your wife. >> nope. >> i thought maybe people wouldn't want to watch somebody feed phil during the pandemic. why would we want to see this schmo going out and enjoying food in different countries when we can't go anywhere? >> sometimes i feel bad for you people. but not today. >> but you know what i found? it was the opposite. people were desperate for some kind of escape. any good show transports you. "queen's gambit" can transport you to a world that you didn't know.

do you think the pandemic had something to do with the fact that we care about chess? or was it just well done? >> "queen's gambit" was a failed movie pitch and scott frank turned it into an incredible limited series. and i think during covid there was a huge fascination with it. in the early days of the pandemic when people had a lot of time on their hands they became very adventurous. and "tiger king" was i think one of the ultimate covid sensations. ♪ because i saw tigers ♪ ♪ now i understand ♪ >> it was a show that was designed at every step to make you go holy cow, is that real. >> every animal rights person all in one row. >> truth is truly stranger than fiction. you know you have a moment in zeitgeist where people start dressing like your characters from your shows on halloween. and "tiger king" might have been the king of that. >> we needed things to watch so

bad. i remember being just desperate. >> miss bridgerton. >> pardon me. >> shonda rhimes goes to netflix and does "bridgerton," which is one of the biggest recent success stories on netflix. >> we gave her the ability in scope and scale and budgets to make increasingly big worlds and we had complete confidence that she could fill them. >> and i feel like that needs to be celebrated. >> "schitt's creek" became the ultimate pandemic show. here was a family leaving the big city and going into the wilderness and sort of finding their heart again. that's what every family in the big city wanted to do during the pandemic. >> we're all pitching in these days, dear, like communists or non-union actors. >> "schitt's creek" is a "beverly hillbillies" in reverse. instead of hillbillies going to beverly hills you have beverly hills going to the hills. >> david. what does burning smell like? >> and this story is about how

the town over time has an effect on these narcissists. >> oh, my god. >> what are you doing in. >> i was trying to give you a hug. >> i get the gesture. >> should have undone the seat belt. >> well, then let's just leave it at a gesture. >> let's just leave it. >> yeah. >> so the show is capable of both very broad comedy but also of intensely moving human themes. >> our lives are like little baby crows. carried upon a curious wind. >> everybody had a human side and everybody was rewarded in that final episode. and boy, did it end up being the perfect show for the pandemic. >> you have these shows that are taking risks. you have those that would have never been on television 15 years before. >> i wish it was different. >> donald glover, issa rae, all these folks who have unique and

specific royces are now in your living room. >> clearly she's not a virgin. >> of course i am. that's a mistake. >> it's not a mistake. >> or it's a hormonal thing. >> exactly. pregnancy hormone. >> i'm really just honored to be a part of some of the those that got to be these new voices for people. >> you swear you won't tell anyone? >> i swear, yeah. >> you have "homeland" in 2011 and then 2019 you get "ramy." >> i didn't know you were muslim muslim. >> yeah. >> somebody that's grown up that was looked at as one of those guys that they were scared of in "homeland." that whole decade really, really moved the needle in terms of representation. >> you should probably brace yourself for some light vomiting followed by life-altering hallucinations. >> now all the greatest characters are on television, and the audience definitely is on television. >> i look forward to this jury. watch your toes. >> and i think it's the opportunity to tell great stories in a way that doesn't come with preconceived notions

what tv's supposed to look like, what tv stars are supposed to look like or even what language they're supposed to speak. that great storytelling rules the day. >> so good. >> how is it so good? >> what time did? >> it's like daylight already. how did that even happen? >> we just today up all night. >> do you want to watch more? >> my vacation day starts now. >> so intense. >> oh my god, so good. okay. let's just watch the first episode of season 2. that's all i want to see. >> one more season. >> i don't know how long it's been since i've gone to the bathroom. >> my legs are asleep. >> i literally feel like i have a bladder infection. after the next episode. coming up -- >> i was loyal to that product