the yellow mendoza was in the fourth, her sister sophie was a second grader. rays of sunshine, that's how they're school principal describe them in a letter to other parents, their mom was critically wounded. it's not a good evening when this woman's family is now making plans to return her family to india for a funeral. her name was aishwarya thatikonda, she came here some five years ago to pursue a masters degree and she was at the mall with a friend who is also wounded. nor is it a good evening when a security guard christian lacour

is remembered in death as the kind of person who would light up the room instead of celebrating life for him. and, all eight people were murdered saturday. the killer wounded seven others before he was shot dead. 128 years into the year, it was the country's to 122nd mass shooting. 222 incidents where people were wounded or killed. 222 opportunities as a society to actually do something to honor the victims of gun violence to make them the last victims, and not the latest. so for, there is not much meaningful has happened either in texas or across the country. it was almost a year ago, as when -- robb elementary school in uvalde,. texas, today almost a year later, and after virtually nonstop pressure from some of the parents, to republicans crossed party lines to move -- to raise the age for buying semiautomatic weapons from 18 to 21. the vote came on the last possible data act, and after

committee members kept uvalde family was waiting 13 hours to testify. the bill is not expected, however, to get any further. today, by the way in belgrade, serbia, a week after two mass shootings, thousands of protesters rallied outside serbia's parliament and government offices, demanding measures to stop the violence. for them, though, this comes after the only two mass shootings in modern memory. not the 202nd this year. more now on how the latest core unfolded, and the latest, since ed lavender joins us, who has some new reporting on the shooting. ed? >> hi, anderson. well, cnn has been able to review extensive postings made by the shooter on a russian social media site. these include an array of information that includes praising the nashville shooter who killed six people, including several children. the shooter wrote approvingly of approving nazi ideology, also showed off pictures of his arsenal of firearms. and more disturbingly, there is

a picture, a screenshot of a google maps picture taken several weeks ago, here at this outlet mall, that showed the gunman just what day of the week would be the busiest day here. >> around 3:30 saturday afternoon, dashcam video captures a silver dodge charger moving through the allen outlet mall parking lot. a gunman emerges from the car. a rapid pop, pop, pop of gunfire stunts unsuspecting shoppers. >> we heard, like, a bunch of shots, but we thought it was firecrackers at first. >> at 3:36, an allen police officer at the mall on an unrelated call hears those shots and response. >> [inaudible] >> the shooter strikes the first victims next to the ancient and cold and snow. based on witness interviews and videos from the scene, cnn has tracked the approximate path the gunman followed as he made his way to the other mall, moving north along storefronts before turning left. >> there is this guy dressed in all-black, wearing a vest, has an assault rifle. he's just shooting at people.

>> just a few stores away and in the guns path, shoppers rushed to get away. >> i saw two ladies rushing towards me, and one was like, somebody is shooting. and then right behind it, right in front of the dike and why, there was a guy, just held his neck like this, and blood was just dripping down. >> the gunman continues moving north along the building. at the corner, bill mclean is inside a cosmetic store and here is the distinct sounds of gunfire getting closer and closer. >> so, we basically turned and watched. and as we were watching, the shooter goes right across. he's not running, but he's kind of at a delivered assault type move. and a few moments later, we saw a police officer come across in front of us, like he was in pursuit of the individual. >> witnesses described the gunman dressed in a ballistic jacket, and invest carrying extra ammunition. a senior law enforcement sources tell cnn that in the clothing they found the insignia rwds, which

authorities believe stands for right wing death squad. >> we have multiple [inaudible] >> the gunman now turns the corner, making its way west, continuing to fire at shoppers, scrambling to make sense of the chaos. >> we've got reports of multiple victims. one victim that we have reported's friend -- with a gunshot wound to the chest. >> he was shooting the gun in any direction. >> at this, point the shooter has moved several hundred yards of the parking lot. the allen police officer has closed in, shooting and killing the suspect in front of fat burger restaurant. inside, tiffany gibson cannot believe the ordeal is over. witnesses tell cnn this picture was taken at 3:40 pm, roughly ten minutes after the gunman started the deadly rampage. >> so, the man that was shooting, is there on the ground? >> yes, the police shot him. they shot him. the pictures that i showed him, it's multiple -- i think they shot him in the

head and shasta stuff. so, he was laying on his back. >> did you see this person? were they walking around the parking lot? >> i just saw the after, the aftermath. >> what goes through your mind when you hear that shooting all of a sudden? >> i've never witnessed anything like this. this is very traumatic for me. >> at 4:20, to allen police warned residents to stay away from the outlet mall in a tweet, saying there is a, quote, active investigation. it's now around 5:14 pm. shoppers who've been hiding in stores are escorted out of the outlet mall by authorities with their hands in the air. it's not until 6:53 pm that allen police tweet there is no longer an active threat. >> so, ed, what more do we know what survivors still in hospital? >> well, we know there are seven survivors still in the hospital, three of them in critical condition, as you heard us mention there, that includes the mother of the mendoza girls. and the other four are in fair, and good condition. so, there have been some improvements in some cases.

but some of them, basically, anderson, are fighting for their lives still tonight. >> and lavandera, appreciate it. shot barnwell was at the mall shopping with a friend when the shooting began. he's a navy combat veteran of training in emergency care for wounded people, which he put to use on saturday. i talk to him just a few minutes ago, right before airtime. and we want you to hear from him what he saw and what he did. and just want to tell you some of the details, there got wrenching, but he, and we want you to hear them. because it what was done to our fellow human beings. it was done to women, children, and man, it happened, it's real, and ignoring it just doesn't feel like the right thing to do. >> joshua, thank you so much for joining us. first of all, how are you doing? i mean, you've been through something which is just, just horrific. >> given the circumstances, i mean, i could comfortably say i'm doing good. you know, considering all that

occurred. >> i know you are there when the shooting began. you heard it. you hid out in a lucky genes store. you made sure the people around you were down, keeping us safe as possible. at a certain point, you made the decision, it was safe to come out. and you went to directly where you believe the gunfire had come from. when you got there, what did you see? >> so, when i initially got in from the age and am store, it was the first thing that i notice was the gunshot blasted windows to that store. and then as i started to, you know, rotate around the verve, the next thing i notice was in an alcove area where there was a landscaped flower bed, if you will, i noticed in front of it was a woman who had, you, know collapsed on top of herself and had perished there. then i turned around, or turned

my gaze towards the left, and i noticed a a gentleman there who was, i guess, for a lack of a better word writhing in pain. he had what appeared to be a shoulder wound. he was actually in the flower bed. there was a young child, you know, my guess at the time was between six and eight years old, that was lying there. her state was unknown, but did not look promising. and then next to her was an adult woman who had multiple, multiple vicious gunshot wounds. she had the head of a young lady draped on her left shoulder, facing downward, who also appeared to have multiple very traumatic injuries and gunshot wounds. then at the foot of that young

lady was a, basically a pile with a man on top, who was, again, writhing in pain with what appeared to be a shoulder or chest wound. and below him was a deceased woman that i later found out was his wife. and then he had a young child with him, maybe five or six years old that was just drenched in blood. i mean, the color of whatever fabric he was wearing was nearly indistinguishable. and he was, you know, hiding, but appeared at that time to not be wounded, or at least not severely wounded. so, yeah, that was the initial observation of the scene before i actually started to involve myself. >> and you decided, i mean, your training at that point, i assume, kicks in.

you decide to, essentially, what, do triage and go to where you think you need it most? you want to the woman and her daughter, correct? >> that's correct, that's correct, sir. i went over there because she had, made sounds, words. so, i went to her, i approached her, and i started to overlook her condition and speak with her. and she asked me to look at her daughter, who is next to her, the young child. so, i turned over to the daughter, and i began to do chest compression's, and some old to mouth. i went back to continue chest compressions, at which time just a vial amount of blood came out from underneath her, from her back. and i realized at that point with her coloring and that state that she had already been deceased. and the blood loss was just

unbelievable. so, i returned back to her mother and just tried to analyze the wounds, check out the bleeding. she had a pretty large portion of her neck that had been compromised, both of her legs, her arm that was visible, both with just massive atrocious bullet wounds, to the point where the bone was splintered. and, you know, the tissue was everywhere on the walls, et cetera. but she was talking with me, and my main thing was to keep are stable, keep her daughter, who also was making movement and trying to contain to keep unstable, just try to apply pressure and minimize anymore loss that we can get. i mean, i had no tools, i'm not a trained medic. so, i was going with what training i do have. and doing the best that i could

while we were waiting for trained medical technicians to arrive, so that we could get them off to a hospital. >> and that mother was asking about -- >> and i did continue to try to -- >> and that mother was asking about her daughter? >> yeah, i'd eventually -- yeah, eventually i tried to buy time because i didn't have to tell or. and eventually i realized that i could not, there is no way around it. so, i had to tell her that i could not work on her daughter anymore, because her daughter was deceased. but that i needed her to hang in there, because her husband was there but. and you know, very frantic, distraught, understandably. her daughter was there, her daughter was with, us i needed her to fight, i needed her to fight for her husband and her daughter and for the family that was still there. and that's what i kept relaying to her and her daughter, please fight and be there for the family that you have. >> how old was the child who died, you think?

>> i believe are on six, six, seven years old. >> how long to take for the ambulances to come? >> initially, we had paramedics arrive on foot with her trauma bags, trauma kits. when they arrived,, again they were still too many wounded for them to handle. so, i worked with them on applying the stop the bleed turn a kits, and you know, at one point, i had to use a trauma shear is to remove her bra and her shirt, because she had a wound on her breast. so, i had to imply a compression bandage on to that. and so, i was working with them, you know, they were giving me the supplies, and i was supplying them while they were also working with the other wounded. but i'd probably say from the

time i arrived until the time we actually started getting victims onto ambulances was probably the better part of ten or so minutes, largely due to the fact of trying to get ambulances into an area where the possibility there still being an active shooter requires a great deal of difficulty to not potentially cause damage or make an annual striver a victim. >> and you stayed on scene helping for four hours, didn't you? >> many hours, yeah. i stay there until all the patients were gone there. the patient next to the h&m who came out, and i thought i was going to have to use my pick up truck to get her out of there, but we were able to get an ambulance and get her out. and once we were escorted out, i was then asked by a gentleman who is there, also on a voluntary basis, to assist with getting the people off the streets so that emergency

vehicles could come in and out and helping with the crowds of people that were coming out of the ball that were being stationed in the grassy area there. in doing that, i also, you know, i had people that were approaching me that had medical conditions or were in need of water or hydration that i was working with getting them to a paramedic to assist with their medical situations are getting them water and handing out and distributing water and helping police officers with that. just trying to do what i could do so the police officers could, the fire department, the ems could do the skilled jobs they need to be there to do, and i could kind of be this in phil. >> josh, i just think it's extraordinary what you did. and i'm just wondering if there is anything you want people to know about what you saw, what you went through, what the others. >> i mean, the most important

thing, the reason i even agreed to do these interviews, because i will be honest, i am pretty tired, [laughter] but, it's because i want people to, i wanted to really sink in, i want people to really and truly understand the depth and depravity that occurred. and you know, if, if in the detail it upsets them, then i'm glad, because it should. because it was a disastrous situation. and there were also a lot of good people there, most civilians and of course naturally the law enforcement, the paramedics, the empties, the firefighters that just really gave it their all too in a situation where it's very difficult to navigate, you know in those kinds of conditions. my biggest thing is for people to realize and know how tragic

this truly really, really was. that people lost their lives, that people, who may still be alive, they are forever changed. and generally speaking, not for the positive. >> joshua barnwell, i appreciate your. time and i appreciate what you did, thank you. >> well, thank you, sir. >> joshua barnwell is his name. next for us, closing arguments in the e. jean carroll's civil rape case against the former president. what jurors heard and what one former federal prosecutor thinks the make of it all. and now, with a rise in the number of border crossings expected later this week will show you what some are doing just to reach the border in new mexico. we'll talk with our reporter -- romance. ♪ ♪ get 2.9% apr for 36 months

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this comes after a brief trial in which her -- over the years, and sought to reinforce it with video from his deposition. the defense presented no case at all. both sides however did give closing arguments. and cnn's kara scannell is outside the courthouse with details for us. so, what did they say in the closing arguments? >> well, so, e. jean carroll's attorneys were up for us. and they said to the jury, look who is not here, donald trump is a no-show and it's civil rape and defamation trial. you know, they said to the jury,

you should look that he did not come here and say to your face and deny that these allegations that he had raped carroll. he told the jury they should hold that against the former president. they said they should also look at the video deposition that trump had given last october. the jury saw a lot of that deposition, about 48 minutes of it over two days of the trial, and they said that trump was actually a witness against himself. and what they meant by that is the portion of the testimony where trump is shown a black and white photo of him with e. jean carroll a few years before the alleged assault, and in the deposition, trump mistakenly thinks that e. jean carroll is his second wife, marla maples. that's what carroll's attorneys show that e. jean carroll was in fact donald trump type. they also have the access hollywood tape, which has played repeatedly to the jury today during closing. on that tape, they say trump is telling you in an unguarded moment what he really thinks about women. they call that video a confession. now, they also said in order for the jury to find for trump,

they would have to believe that everyone else who testified at this trial was lying, and that includes the two women who testified for -- carroll, saying she confided for them in the mid 90s, and saying the two other women who came forward and said trump sexually assaulted them, those people's testimony, carroll's attorney say, as part of a pattern of trump's behavior. now, trump's lawyer, he spoke for more than two hours during his closing arguments. and he said carroll that's lawyers want the jury to hate trump enough to ignore the fact. and he also said there were many pieces of carroll's testimony and her story that was just unbelievable, pointing to how she testified there was no one in the department store the night of the alleged rape, calling it inconceivable that she would have had her purse in her hands and her tights would not be ripped mall shooting violently assaulted. and he argued to the jury that the two friends she confided in, that they were part of a conspiracy, colluding with carroll to try to get trump out of office because they did not like him. and that carroll was seeking

both fame and money by bringing this lawsuit. and then that was kind of the summing up of all of the testimony today in the case. both sides giving their best arguments to the jury, where they will next pick up the case, anderson. >> so, then they're expected to get it tomorrow? >> that's right. first thing in the morning, the judge will instruct the jury on the law, telling them what carroll's side needs to prove in order to find trump liable. of course, the burden of proof is with carroll. the standard here because it's a civil case, not the same as a criminal case, it's just more likely than not that trump both raped or sexually assaulted carroll, and the defamation claim also has a different standard, one of clear and convincing evidence. so, when the judge lays out what the jury needs to find, they will now begin deliberations. we're expecting deliberations to start maybe around 11 am eastern, and then the jury will take as long as they need until they reach a verdict, anderson >> care scannell, thank. you with me now is former federal prosecutor jessica roth,

she's now professor at the cordova school of law. carrie was talking about the access hollywood tape and the deposition tape. in that deposition tape, trump was actually asked about the access hollywood tape, and he doubled down on it, essentially. he didn't just give the, oh, it's a locker room thing which they had worked out, the campaign worked out when the tape initially, to kind of push it to the side. he doubled down, saying that stores for millions of years, there were stars millions of years ago, but that's what he basically said, had been able to just, you know, grab women by the, you know, private parts and get away with it. and he said fortunately or unfortunately, which is remarkable. >> it's an extraordinary moment of testimony. i, you know -- >> for a guy who's been sued so much, he gets the worst depositions i've ever heard. >> that moment just jumped out at me, absolutely, when i watch

the deposition. >> because essentially he's saying, he's not confessing to doing that to e. jean carroll, but he's saying that, that he is a star, and that's what stars can do. >> and i think he's asking the deposition, you are a, star aren't you? >> are you, star and he said, yeah certainly,. >> that's what people have done, that's what stars have done for millions of years, as he said. and then he followed up with fortunately or unfortunately. i mean, the notion that there could be anything fortune about people doing that and he would agree that scott people have done, people who are sort of above my status. we don't know what is going to happen tomorrow, but in my, mind that is a moment that could lose a jury, if there is any juror holding on to him. >> how important are closing arguments in a case like this? >> closing arguments are very important. that's the lawyers opportunity to sum up all the evidence the, case and to really argue it to the jury. openings are supposed to be a little bit more matter of fact. here's a preview of what we expect the evidence to show. they're not supposed to be as argumentative. but closing arguments is when

you really get to argue your case. at that, point all the evidence is. in so, you know exactly what witnesses said, you know exactly what the witnesses are, and you can put it together in a way that robbie kaplan did very effectively, with a chart for example, showing the similarities between the allegations of sexual assault by the different women, the two other women who alleged trump assaulted them in semi public spaces, and how consistent those accounts were, not only with e. jean carroll's account, but also with what trump said in the access hollywood video about how he just moves on women, right. he can't control himself, and he grabs them finally generals. the consistency of those accounts, that essential modus operandi is extraordinary. >> yeah, he said, start by kissing women, just do it, you get away with it. given that this is a civil case, what are the potential penalties? i mean, it's not a criminal case. >> no, this is all about financial penalties. a judgment of what amount he should pay in damages. so, there is an expert who

testified for his reputation. i believe the range given is something in the high $300,000 to two point $7 million. but the jury is not bound by that. and then they can also award punitive damages. so, it's really up to the jury what they think is a reasonable and proportionate exact -- amount. >> so, if they felt the rape had occurred and he had been disparaging her, that punitive damages might even escalate. >> yes. i think that's going to be perhaps the most pressing part of the jury deliberations tomorrow, to say if they all agree fairly quickly on whether not hold him liable, assume if they do, then they would move on to damages. so, that's going to be the question of sort of how to come up those numbers. >> -- roth, appreciated. next, the perilous training road that many migrants are taken north to mexico, just in a new estimate of how many, tens of thousands of migrants, are now at or near the u.s. border. authorities here prepare for a

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protection agencies, social services agencies, and military groups are bracing for the sudden influx and the southern border when pondera mick era restrictions -- could top 150,000 according to a source familiar with federal estimates. tonight cnn's david culver gives us a glimpse from mexico some of those who are on their way. >> at the u.s. southern border, the struggle is constant. illegal crossings like this one really tough to watch. having already clogged through the barbed wire, you can see this young woman, frustrated, exhausted, trying to help the other. trapped in a web of sharp medal at the texas border. from above, you might think they're the only two crossing this day. but the clothes dangling along the miles and miles of fencing say otherwise. for many migrants fleeing countries like venezuela, nicaragua, cuba, and others, like mexico is the final stop before trying to claim asylum in the u.s.. >> they wait in places like

this. you can see the sidewalk, full of an encampment, different tents. >> we've seen thousands flooding the streets in shelters at this mexican border town. 22-year-old -- their husband, and therefore your little girl have camped out here for three months already. [speaking non-english] she says they're gonna cross but she doesn't want to do it illegally, she wants to do with the right way. [speaking non-english] you don't know when? >> in recent weeks, the u.s. updated a cpp app, allowing migrants north of mexico city to register digitally for an in limited -- asylum officers. no one we've talked to has been able to secure an appointment yet. janai's, not sure she will ever get one. she lost her phone in a fire a few weeks back. but she and others tell me they've come too far to turn around. her young daughter carries the

marks to prove it. [speaking non-english] she said she has some burns still on her face from the sun. from being on top of the train. the journey took juarez from southern mexico as hundreds of miles. so many ride the rails north. on top of freight trains. we caught up with one just as it was arriving into quarries. migrants right on top here. many have made the journey on this train alone for more than eight hours. [speaking non-english] he said they were 12 hours on the train. he said it was so cold, everything felt like ice. [speaking non-english] his whole family here, and he says now they're gonna stay a night, get cleaned up and prepared to cross into the u. s.. [speaking non-english] but they are not does mom is terrified to climb down. [speaking non-english] her loved ones, at first, encouraging. then, telling her, let's go. [speaking non-english]

part of the train journey north for some is in what's called la vista the beast. or the train of death. although dangerous and it land often controlled by cartels, hours making distrust trist's track is scarring. but imagine days on board. [speaking non-english] she says the report is on the train, she said horrible, really cold. for kids his wife, four and a half days on the train. [speaking non-english] he says it's for the american dream. they're gonna try to cross today. another 25 miles under the hot sun to the border from here. precious cargo carried on shoulders and in hand. [speaking non-english] most end up where we started, at the barbed wire. the added barrier rolled out in recent months by the texas national guard. it does not stop the crossings. it does slow them a bit.

the young woman uses her jacket to create a gap, while the other tosses -- a backpack. their only belongings. a quick hug, and they hurry along. likely to turn themselves into u.s. officials. more will follow. >> david culver joins us now from mexico. what's next for the two women that were sneaking through the barbed wire fencing, and you know how title 42 expires hunters and might impact others like them? >> technically, there in the u.s.. they made it through the barbed

wire fence which is the same that you see here behind me, anderson. and yet, not into the u.s. on the other side of the border wall. but they're on u.s. territory. so in this state of limbo, it almost becomes a refugee camp behind me. you see folks just on this portion of the wall waiting to be processed. a lot of these folks, here's what's interesting, they tell me they're no longer looking at the schedule of thanks. back in november, december, when we speak to folks here, this is where waiting for it to end. and then potentially we will have an opportunity. they've seen so much back and forth, anderson, and u.s. policy, that they're just saying, we're on our own schedule, if it happens to lift by the time are ready to cross. great. if we get some back somewhere, we'll try again, and again, and again. we've talked to folks who've made multiple attempts and some say they'll figure out a way to go in undetected. it's desperation, anderson, but also determination at this point. >> david culver, appreciate it. coming up next, your vision anchor jorge's take on the situation, and how to address it.

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do you think it's going to be a big change? >> there's going to be a change, but what we have to say is that the surge is already happening. last, year there were 2. 7 million immigrants crossing illegally from mexico to the united states. according to the border patrol. the year before it was 2 million, and this here we are going sadly in the same direction. but we have to see, probably this coming thursday's an even higher number of immigrants crossing the border from, let's say, about 6000 every day to about 13,000 every day. by the, way the new york times reporting that -- because we've been sending a lot of immigrants to mexico, there are 35,000 immigrants waiting right now in ciudad juárez, and tijuana they're about 10,000 immigrants waiting on the other side of san diego, california. so that's exactly what we've been waiting. another increment in the search, and no government could handle something like this. the biden administration i

don't think is prepared. the trump administration couldn't have been prepared for something like this. if you send 15,000 or even 1500 soldiers troops to the border to or create a new application, or even send more agents, it's just like throwing rocks to a river. it won't be stopped, and the flow of immigrants is much stronger. >> they want to apply for asylum, that process as it is currently now, there are not enough judges to hear cases. that process takes years before anybody can even get a hearing, let alone prove their case which is very difficult. and if you are fleeing for economic reasons, or even security reasons that are not related to politics, or being part of a particular group, you are very unlikely to get asylum. a system is just completely overwhelmed, it seems. >> exactly. a system i think is completely broken. we have to understand that, this is going to be the new normal, but it's impossible to feel the border since the end of the mexican american war in 1848, the war has been porous,

it's full of holes, i've seen people just jumping the wall in less than one minute. we have to understand that immigration is an equation between push factors and pull factors. and push factors that expel people right now that expel people from the country, they're very strong. we have three dictatorships in the region, a coup in venezuela, mexico is incredibly violent. just last year more than 30,000 people were assassinated, and the rest of the country, the rest of the region, we see a lot of poverty and it's the most on equal region of the world. so this is expelling people from the country, just to mention unemployment is only 3. 4%, so if you put both things together this is normal that people fleeing from poverty, fleeing from persecution, fleeing from violence will go to the richest country where they can feel more protected, and where they can have better opportunities. that is why they are coming. and by the way, they're going to keep on coming by the millions. >> unless there is some sort of compromise solution between the political parties in the united

states, it is very difficult to see how anything will actually change. how more judges will be hired, you know, there will be different border security things passed. unless there is some sort of compromise, unless each side compromises, nothing it seems to get done. >> and you know there's going to be no compromise whatsoever. enforcement isn't going to help, we can only hope just to manage more or less the crisis right now, and that is about it. a long term solution would require for us to legalize those -- no one wants to talk about that. and then we have to increase the number of illegal immigrants coming to this country. every year we accept about 1 million immigrants, and according to the numbers that we have seen in the last two years, that is not even enough.

so instead o of 1 million, we would need at least 2 million legal immigrants coming to the united states, and asylum seekers, and refugees, they have the right to apply. especially if they are fleeing poverty, especially if they're fleeing persecution and violence. but nothing is gonna change, i think we have to realize that the system is broken, and no one is doing anything about it, and that this is going to be the new normal. in central america, in latin america, there are tens of millions of potential immigrants just waiting to come to the united states, and the message that they are getting is that after title 42, it's going to be easier to get in. i appreciate your time. >> thank you anderson. >> coming up tonight, new claims surrounding the 2018 death of alec murdaugh's house keeper. gloria satterfield her name, and murdaugh is walking back details about what led to her death. her family is not buying, it that is next.

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alleged embezzlement and insurance scam. attorneys for gloria satterfield, the former housekeeper, now but a new claims about her death. you may remember that satterfield died in 2018, after according to the murdochs account, the interest by the family's dog and falling on the stairs. last week, alec murdaugh's attorney said no dogs were involved in her fall, and now satterfield family says that murdoch is lying about lying. >> gloria was there, sitting up, big pool of blood -- lot of blood on the side of her face. >> newly-released ovidio of alec murdaugh talking about how he found that families housekeeper after she had fallen down the steps at their south carolina home. murdoch told investigators after the fall that he wasn't home when it happened on february seven, 2018, but blamed it on the family's dogs. >> she indicated that the dogs has caused her to fall, but

what i'm assuming happen is when gloria pulled up, the dogs -- rushing her. >> for affection? >> for affection. >> gloria satterfield later died at a hospital. but alec murdaugh's story about the dogs being responsible, murdaugh now says that's not true. but why? it turns out it's all about money. following her death, murdaugh arrange for satterfield surviving son to sue him, given it was his dog's fault. but when the insurance company paid three point $8 million to the satterfield estate to settle the case, alec murdaugh stole the money and kept it for himself. >> years later he admitted stealing the money and agreed to a judgment against him. >> i have never disputed since i was confronted on labor day weekend that i took money from my clients. >> but now, not a listen sherine's company has filed a lawsuit against murdaugh claiming it relied on murdaugh 's falk statements to his detriment, and dispersed funds. based upon the fraud and deceit

directly, and proximity calling damage to not tell us. the insurance company is looking to recover the three point $8 million it paid murdaugh in the satterfield case. and here is where the dogs come in, court papers show murdaugh is suddenly changing his story, saying it was not his dogs that caused satterfield fall after all, though he is not offering an alternate cause. in court papers murdaugh's lawyers in vented miss satterfield supported statement that dogs cause ruffle to force his insurers to make a settlement payment. murdaugh and his lawyers directed nautilus interest company to instead claw back the insurance money paid from the satterfield family, not from alec murdaugh. >> it's just an almost perversion of the justice system to suggest that the satterfield family be victimized again. >> attorney eric bland represents the satterfield family.

>> not tillis insurance company has never paid one cents to the satterfield. >> that's because alec murdaugh deposited that money into his own account, blandly's murdaugh is changing his story now so he's not on the hook for his estate to pay any of those millions. back, >> and anderson, as far as it really happened with the dogs that day, we may never know. they were no surveillance cameras on the property, there were no eyewitnesses, maggie and paul murdaugh were still alive at the time, this is back in 2018. they did corroborate others account, they were home at the time unaided corroborate others account saying at least one or more of the dogs did trip the housekeeper, but we may never know. what we do know is that alec murdaugh that day's on opening and an opportunity and ended up stealing millions of dollars from this family. anderson? >> randi kaye appreciate, thank you. up next, taylor swift got a big smile for event over the weekend who certainly could use it. gets three jobs done at once - kills weeds.

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