judiciary committee and separately the senate finance committee ron wyden are requesting information on crowe's gift to thomas. president biden is calling for what he calls, quote, a fair deal for those striking hollywood writers. at a film screening at the white house on monday, the president talking about that strike for the first time. >> nights like these are a reminder of the power of stories and the importance of treating story tellers with dignity, respect, and the value they deserve. i sincerely hope the writer's strike in hollywood gets resolved and the writers are given the fair deal they deserve as soon as possible. >> tennessee's governor now calling for a special legislative session this summer in hopes of passing a public safety bill. you might recall efforts to pass a red flag style law failed after that national school shooting back in march. the republican governor, though, bill lee, announcing that he wants the legislature to meet august 21st. thanks for your time today. we'll see you tomorrow. cnn news central starts right now.

crisis at the border. 150,000 migrants waiting to cross into the united states. a wave that could overwhelm the border patrol and humanitarian groups, with already strained border towns facing an influx that has been building for months. and it could hit in just 48 hours. we're going to take you there. >> the country are running out of time and money. hours from now, a critical meeting to avoid economic calamity. president biden set to meet with congressional leaders on the debt ceiling, but the two sides are nowhere near a deal and a catastrophic default could be just weeks away. and a mysterious object smashes through a roof and right into a home. officials say it is most likely a meteorite. a little gift from space. we are following these stories and many more, all coming in right here "cnn news central."

we are just about 48 hours from a border surge that has been months in the making. you can see people waiting to make their move. and this video that cnn took today from mexico's side of the border. a source says the u.s. government estimates that there are more than 150,000 people standing by to try to enter the united states on thursday when title 42 expires. remember, that's the u.s. policy that would have immediately expelled them because of pandemic restrictions. now, this map shows where some of the 150,000 are right now in mexico. you'll notice 60,000 of them alone waiting in cheihuahuachih. meanwhile, border agents have been experiencing the anticipation firsthand. encounters with migrants have surpassed 8,000 a day, and according to officials, after thursday, it could reach 10,000 encounters each day. let's take you now live to the

southern border with cnn's nick valencia, who's in brownsville, texas, for us. nick, with 48 hours before the end of title 42, what are you seeing? >> reporter: boris, we're seeing a very active scene on the streets of el paso. i want to show you just what we're talking about here. this is an area where migrants are taken after they're processed by immigration officials. some of these men have crossed illegally, some have crossed through ports of entry. all of them have been released on humanitarian patrol. and what you're looking at here is them to try to raise enough money to get to their next destination. we're told by some of these migrants here that they crossed to avoid political persecution in venezuela. all of them had been released on humanitarian patrol. and let's see if we can talk to them. [ speaking non-english ] . why did you cross? what are you running from? he's saying abuse from the government, the needs that he has are just not being met.

how long have you been here item he says he's been here for three days trying to get enough -- he's trying to get money to try to get to his next destination. he has family in chicago. so robert is just one of the very many venezuelan migrants. most of these men are from venezuela. we talked to teams brownsville after these men are dropped off by border patrol outside of this bus station. they are processed by team brownsville, a nonprofit that helps them get to their next destination. we're told yesterday they processed about 750 individuals. as title 42 is expected to end, they expect that number to swell upwards of 1,000 people or more. boris? >> important to remember that those 150,000 waiting to cross all have significant reasons, the hardship that they've experienced in their home

countries, something that you and i know very well. nick valencia, thanks very much from brownsville, texas. let's turn now to cnn white house reporter, priscilla alvarez. because president biden is scheduled to speak with the president of mexico sometime today. >> these are two countries that have worked together very closely when it comes to trying to stem the flow of migration. according to the mexican president in a briefing yesterday, he said the two leaders would talk about migration, fentanyl, and the economic cooperation. the u.s. and mexico recently reached an agreement that would allow border authorities to turn certain non-mexican nationals back to mexico after title 42 lifts. that was the first time that the u.s. has supported certain non-mexican nationals pack to mexico. so this is one of many measures that the biden administration is taking to try to manage the flow and expect to increase in the coming days. i just spoke to a homeland security official who tells me that the dial encounters of migrants yesterday was nearly 10,000. that's already higher than what

we were seeing. and a show of how this is trending upward, as we expect the expiration of this restriction. as you heard there from nick, a lot of these migrants are coming and seeking asylum. we're seeing cubans, nicaraguans, venezuelans, and haitians. all very difficult populations for the u.s. because of frosty relations with those countries, making this talk with mexico important for the u.s. and for mexico. boris? >> it will be interesting to see how the biden administration deals with this influgx. priscilla, keep us posted. we are learning some disturbing new details about the gunman who killed eight people and injured multiple others saturday at a mall in allen, texas. here you can see images that investigators say he posted on social media in recent weeks, seeming to reveal an obsession with nazis, weapons, and mass shootings. at the top of the screen, a long gun and a handgun on what appear

to be a bed, multiple boxes of ammunition, and moreau, a shooting range target with holes blasted through it. here, the body armor vest that authorities say he wore during the shooting. it has a patch in the middle of it that says, rwds, that is an abbreviation for right wing death squad. and he also allegedly posted this picture of the mall in the weeks just before the shooting, then a screen shot from google maps that actually showed the times of day when the mall was busiest, so that he knew when the most people would be there. cnn's josh campbell is on the scene in allen, texas. josh, we are seeming to get a clearer picture about this killer's incredibly disturbing, the plans that he made. >> that's right, brianna. shortly after this massacre occurred on the weekend, a law enforcement source told me that authorities started to zero in on right-wing extremism, as a possible motive. he had a very troubling social media presence, i was told. we're now seeing some of those posts from ourself.

cnn has identified a russian social media platform, where the suspect had an account, and it is replete with vile postings about white supremacy, his obsession over nazis, over firearms, over mass shootings. he also describe himself as an incel, which those who follow extremism know, these are men who blame women in society for their lack of romantic society. and very chilling details about potential reconnaissance he did at the mall, coming here in the weeks prior to the attack, checking to see when would be the busiest times. truly chilling stuff. we are expecting to hear very shortly from police at a press conference where we hope to learn more about the ongoing investigation. >> and we're learning more about the shooting victims. i think, josh, in any shooting, it's just heartbreaking, but it is especially so in this case. >> reporter: absolutely. you look at the ages. authorities here have released a full list of the eight people who were killed in this massacre. i'll read you their names. they include 20-year-old

christian lacour, a security guard at the mall. also killed 22-year-old helio reeves and children killed in this attack. two sisters, 11-year-old daniella mendoza, and her sister sophia mendoza also killed. and a family has also been impacted, another family. that includes 37-year-old ku sung cho, cindy cho, and their 3-year-old son, james. a 3-year-old gunned down here at this mall. sadly, we're told that the surviving member of that family, the lone survivor is a 6-year-old boy. his brother, his parents killed in this attack. this gunman who used an ar-15 to attack this mall reducing this family of four to now a family of one. brianna. >> unimaginable. josh, thank you for that report. boris? >> staying in texas now, a candlelight vigil is planned today as we're learning new details about the victims of the deadly crash sunday in brownsville. police say that this man, george

alvarez, plowed his suv into 18 people at a city bus stop, killing eight of them. authorities say that seven of the victims are still in the hospital. three of them have been released. this all happened on sunday, outside a shelter that houses migrants. authorities say that several migrants were among those killed. the brownsville community continues to pay their respects. listen. >> that's why we came to leave the flowers. this thing happens to you. it's a very ugly thing. i pass by here every morning and i do see them. i go slow for the same thing, because i know they pass and are waiting here. >> alvarez now paces eight counts of manslaughter, ten counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, and it is still unclear whether this crash was intentional. jim? another case we're watching right now in philadelphia, a manhunt underway for two inmates who escape from congressional facilities. one of the men facing multiple charges for murder.

police say 18-year-old amin hurst also tlau through a hole in a fence. officials say their escape went undetected for nearly a full day, despite multiple head counts there. hurst has been in custody for more than two years, as he awaits trial on four counts of murder. cnn's danny freeman is in philadelphia for us. danny, how did this happen? multiple head counts and they're not counted and stay away for 24 hours before detected. but also update us where the manhunt stands. >> well, jim, i think that you're going to hear that question asked a lot over the course of the next several days. exactly that, how did this happen and how did it go undetected for so long. let me refresh to what we do know at this point. this is a story that's alarmed a lot of philadelphians over the past 24 hours. according to police, two prisoners broke out around sunday night at 8:30 p.m. but the department of prison says that they did not realize

that anyone had broken out until 3:00 the following day. almost 24 hours right there. and as you said, there were three head counts that those prisoners potentially missed, because they were outside of the jail cell. one at "pg-13" on sunday night, and 3:00 a.m. and 7:00 a.m. on sunday morning. three chances to potentially check if they were there that were missed over the course of that time. again, the question as to how, we actually got a chance to catch up with the commissioner just a few moments ago and pressed her as to how exactly this happened. but the latest information we have, they are still combing through security footage to understand how this happened. but it was a hole that was cut through a fence in the rec yard. one of the areas that is accessible to some of the inmates here during the day and during the evening. now, i should say, the mayor of philadelphia, jim kenney, he was in harrisburg at the time when he got the news. he came back last night for a press conference. take a listen. he was visibly frustrated at this story. >> clearly, the system is screwed up. and people didn't do what they were supposed to do. it's clear.

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in just a few hours, president biden and house speaker mccarthy are going to sit down for the first time in months to figure out a way to avoid the first-ever u.s. default and a subsequent global financial meltdown. but the white house doesn't want you to call this a negotiation. listen. >> i wouldn't call it a debt ceiling negotiations. i would call it a conversation between the four leaders and the president. >> remember, the treasury department says the government could run out of cash and be overdue on its pbills by june 1st. that gives lawmakers a little more than three weeks to sort out a solution. looking over the past three weeks, the only thing these two sides have done is harden their positions. house republicans passed a plan to raise the debt ceiling and cut spending, but biden rejected it, demanding a so-called clean debt ceiling bill. let's take you now live to capitol hill with cnn's manu

raju. all eyes are on this meeting, but the actual odds of a breakthrough happening are slim. >> yeah, and there's just so much uncertainty hanging over washington at this critical moment, as the country stares into the prospects of the first of ever default as soon as june and as the two sides are in complete opposite issues about how to resolve this stalemate. you said that the white house has indicated for months, that they want a so-called clean debt ceiling increase. no conditions whatsoever. republicans say they need to be a negotiation, significant spending cuts included as part of this. so what will they agree to on this meeting and will there be any discussions. among the things that they could agree to if they do agree to some sort of deal to raise the debt limit, but perhaps they could discuss a possible short-term increase. but there's been already speaker mccarthy and senate majority leader chuck schumer have both thrown cold war at any sort of short-term debt limit increase. and then the prospects, what would happen if they actually

would not reach any sort of an agreement. then the treasury department, if the united states does default, would have to make a decision about what bills to pay. and that could have significant and drastic economic consequences down the line. there could be some pressure on the white house to change its approach among some moderate democrats, including one i spoke to earlier today, senator joe manchin, who has been calling on the white house to sit down and have these discussions with republicans, indicating that they need to agree to some spending cuts. otherwise, the consequences he warned could be drastic. >> it's just, it's not rational, it's not reasonable and it's gnot practical. and it's hypocritical to say that we're not going to do it now, and we've done it every time there has been a split in the party. every time i know there hasn't been a big discussion, whether one party, republicans have the president, the house, and the senate. or the democrats have all three. >> they're saying no, no cuts,

nothing tied to it. >> that's not -- i think that's not reasonable. >> but there is no clear process to cut a deal outside of the leadership. meaning mccarthy and biden. the senate gop leader mcconnell say they don't have any to get a deal on their own. which is why today's meeting is so significant. but what would happen out of it is anyone's guess. >> and notably, we are three weeks out, but far few days actually that congress is in session. manu raju from capitol hill, please stand by. let's go to cnn's matt egan who has the economic angle in all of this. i found it interesting, you were speaking to showers who told you that janet yellen was busy making phone calls to business leaders. walk us through the context of what those calls mean, given those meetings at the white house. >> boris, i don't know about you, but a lot of this feels

like a movie that we've seen before, right? not a particularly good movie, either. so we're at the point of the debt ceiling crisis where the two sides are finally agreeing to sit down with each other. and where the administration is turning to the business community for help. so, yeah, a source tells cnn that treasury secretary janet yellen, she has been making calls to ceo and other business leaders to talk about the consequences around brinksmanship over the debt ceiling. now, you'll recall that we actually saw something similar in 2021 during the last default drama. we had yellin and president biden meeting with leading ceos including jamie dimon and citigroup's james fraiser to tak about that debt ceiling crisis. i think the goal now, like then, is to try to turn up the pressure on congress here. have the business leaders make the case for why a default would be such a bad idea. and really raise this issue with the public and with congress. and we are starting to hear some business leaders speak out.

josh bolten, he was the chief of staff under george w. bush, he now leads the influential business roundtable. he put out a statement saying, securing a bipartisan path forward to raise the debt ceiling could not be more urgent. the cost of a default or even the threat of a default is simply too high. boris, i think we're going to hear more business leaders speak out the closer we get to june 1st. >> a terrible, terrible film that we've seen too many times, and one that we could see economic ramifications before we even get to the ex date. matt egan in new york, thank you so much for that. >> president biden has been projecting confidence on the economy for months, but americans do not appear to be on the same page. a new poll shows that people have serious doubts about how biden and his top economic officials are handling economic issues. nearly have say they have almost no confidence in biden and his team on the economy. let's discuss now with former

chief economist for the treasury department, ben harris. good to have you uon. >> thanks for having me on. most folks don't have confidence in the president and his team. why is he confident he has the public behind him on his negotiating position here? >> let's be clear, he should never have to have this meeting in the first place. i hope that the american public understands that this is about spending, which has already been agreed to. congress has already authorized all of this spending before and it's about paying your bills. and a pretty common sense preparation, which is just pay for spending you've already authorized. >> you've been makinging that argument and other officials that argument. folks at home don't pay their credit card bills -- i've heard that for weeks. this is where the politics are today. how do you respond to those numbers and that political reality? >> my hope is that people say, look, stop playing games with my 401(k). stop playing games with my mortgage. moody's has done a lot of analysis on this.

the worst-case scenario is terrifying. it looks like a 2008-like scenario again. these are the type of projections that could really scare people. there's an appropriate time and place for a budget fight, and that's the appropriations process. that's how the system works. if republicans feel like they need to shut down government in order to get their point across about less spending, that's great. do that through the proportions process. >> the white house position has become, there is no plan "b" here for not coming to an agreement with mccarthy. are you in effect saying, if we go off that cliff, it's the republicans' fault? >> oh, absolutely. >> are you saying you're willing to go off the cliff? >> i'm not saying that, but we have passed the debt limit 68 times before, three times under trump, 2017, 2018, 2019 -- >> we reported that on this broadcast. >> you've never had this type of turmoil or concerns. in 2011, was the only time i can remember we had a similar

situation. the stock market went down by 20%. i'm not rooting for turmoil. what i'm rooting for is that the american public will listen to business leaders. will understand the consequences of going over the "x" date and say, you know what, have the conversation where it's meant to be had and that's the appropriations process. >> would the white house be willing to do a short-term deal for a few weeks or a few months to at least avoid that cliff while you discuss broader economic or budget cuts? >> the most important thing is we don't do what has never happened before in the history of this country, that we don't fay to pay our bills. if the white house or congressional republicans need a little extra time to figure this all out, great, do a short-term deal. that's the most important thing. default would be catastrophic. you can't undo it. and we're talking about maybe $1 trillion in extra interest payments over the next ten years, which ironically makes all of this concern around rising deficits that much harder. >> let me ask you this, then. given the political realities

for both mccarthy and biden, mccarthy cannot get on the wrong side of the right wing of his party by making concessions. biden can't get on the right side of his own party. would the white house be open to letting democrats and some motor republicans negotiate on the side, right? without the president's involvement, to find some sort of deal that averts that going off a cliff? >> my guess is that the white house would be fine with the deal, which allows us to not breach the debt ceiling and doesn't get any sort of bill that looks like the one that house republicans passed. you're talking about $3.2 trillion in cuts to discretionary spending. and that's a big number. and a lot of people don't get what that means. what does that mean in practice? that means 60,000 fewer teachers. that means at tsa, maybe two extra hours online. those are pretty severe consequences. i think the white house is open to, you know, getting any sort of deal that doesn't involve the republican bill and doesn't involve -- >> painful cuts. >> yeah, these painful cuts.

i don't know how you get there in a way which is acceptable to mccarthy and his caucus. >> ben harris, thanks so much for taking the hard questions for us. >> thank you. so she might be out of congress, but former republican congresswoman liz cheney isn't giving up her fight against donald trump. cheney's political action committee just announced plans to run a minute-long tv ad in new hampshire. the ad would run before and during cnn's presidential town hall with the former president which airs tomorrow night. let's bring in cnn's kristen holmes who's braving this news for us. what are you learning about this? >> this really goes to show you important new hampshire is, and also how important reaching the voters in that state is. now, obviously, to any gop contender, the state is critical. it's the first primary state. but i'm told it is crucial for donald trump. and for two reasons in particular. one being that they believe his team, his advisers, that he needs that momentum to continue through this nomination process. but two, some in his orbit believes he still needs to reach

out and talk to some of these voters who at one point supported him, but maybe now just aren't so sure. and i actually want to play for you part of that liz cheney ad. it appears that she might also be trying to reach those voters. >> rather than accept his defeat, he mobilized a mob to come to washington and march on the capitol. donald trump has proven that he is unfit for office. donald trump is a risk america can never take again. >> and as one trump adviser said to me, they said, they view these voters in three categories, the people always with trump, the people who are unsure, and those who will never be with trump. >> we'll see if he's asked about that ad tomorrow night. kristen holmes, thank you so much. tomorrow night, former president donald trump taking questions from kaitlan collins and new hampshire gop primary voters. it's a cnn republican presidential town hall airing tomorrow night at 8:00 p.m. brianna? >> it is a celebration of

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welcome back to cnn news central. minutes from now, we are expecting an update about saturday's mass shooting at an outlet mall in allen, texas. eight people were killed as well as the gunman and at least seven people were injured. so many questions remain about the gunman's motive and the remarkable police response. an officer on an unrelated call heard the gunshots and ran toward them, neutralizing the gunman. investigators say the 33-year-old shooter appears to have posted images to social media that reveal a disturbing obsession with guns and mass shootings. these are posts that include images of his guns, multiple boxes of ammunition, and the tactical vest that he wore during the attack. he also purportedly wrote online of his support for nazi ideology. a law enforcement source says investigators continue to dig into the gunman's background for a possible motive.

yesterday, the pentagon confirmed that the gunman had been discharged from the army for mental health reasons. we will bring you that news conference once it gets underway. jim? >> a single tank, some very young-looking soldiers, not much else. that was russia's victory-day parade in moscow today. usually a massive event. no doubt vladimir putin certainly would have liked to use the occasion to declare victory in ukraine. that's not the reality. instead, ukraine's president zelenskyy in his speech today reminded russia that it has not yet taken the city of bakhmut by today as putin had vowed to do. and there's this new reporting today. despite recent saber rattling by senior russian officials, i'm told by multiple officials that the u.s. has detected no science of movement or change to russia's nuclear forces. russian leaders, you'll remember, have repeatedly raised the prospect of nuclear war in recent months, and the u.s. and its allies have carefully monitored russian's nuclear forces for any signs of movement or preparations to deploy them.

a senior administration official tells me that as a result, the u.s. has made no changes to its own streak posture. cnn's fred pleitgen is in moscow if fred, this was meant to be a big day for the russian president. not the day he imagines, yet, he did deliver a fiery speech. what was his message? >> yeah, a fiery speech, you're absolutely right. certainly, a speech full of anger as well. it was about ten minutes long. and you know, on the positive side, he did say that russia didn't want bad relations with other countries, whether they were to the east or to the west. he also praised u.s. troops, other western ally troops and chinese troops who fought on the side of the soviet union in world war ii, but that was about it as far as the positives are concerned. on the other hand, he accused western nations, especially the united states, of essentially trying to oppress russia, saying that they were trying to instill non-traditional values in the world community and obviously in russia, as well. and one of main things he did is

he essentially blamed the u.s. and its allies for the war in ukraine. i want you to listen in to some of what vladimir putin had to say. >> translator: the ukrainian nation has become hostage to a coup, which led to a criminal regime led by its western masters. it has become a pawn to their cruel and selfish plans. >> that's vladimir putin there. i think one of the other things that you said, jim, that was absolutely remarkable, as well, the complete lack of any heavy armor rolling down red square. that's certainly something that we noticed that other observers noticed as well. that single t-34 tank, that is a model from world war ii. also, not really any other new technology. if we remember, back in the past, the russians usually showcase their new weapons in a parade like this. none of that today, jim. >> and that phrase, a real war, a real war being waged on russia by the west.

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this is cnn news central and here's a look at some of the other headlines we're following this hour. an army sergeant convicted of murdering a black lives matter protester is being sentenced today, even as texas governor

greg abbott has already said that he will seek to pardon him. daniel perry was convicted of a murder charge in the 2020 shooting death of garrett foster. this was at a racial justice protest in austin, texas, that followed the death of george floyd. perry's legal team argued that his actions were justified as self-defense. and officials in southwest louisiana have just charged a 58-year-old man for shooting a group of children who were playing hide and seek. authorities say that a group of juveniles were hiding on a neighbor's property when the homeowner fired his weapon and asked them to leave. a 14-year-old girl was shot in the back of the head. she was transported to the hospital with nonlife-threatening injuries. also, one of the country's largest military bases go a new name today. ft. hood in colleen, texas, which was named after a confederate general is now ft. cavazos in honor of edward cavazos, the army's first hispanic four-star general.

it's one of four locations that will be renamed after a push from congress to remove confederate names from military bases, boris. a surprise visitor from space crashing into a home in new jersey. take a look at this thing. this suspected meteorite flew through a home in the hopewell township. this thing is about the size of an avocado. it weighs roughly four pounds. and the homeowner's daughter saw it tearing through their ceiling on monday afternoon. she says it was warm to the touch after it landed on the floor and not sure exactly why she was touching something that went through the ceiling. but thankfully, no one was hurt. something like this happening is actually exceedingly rare. experts say only about 500 meteorites actually reach the surface of the earth each year and of those, fewer than ten of them are recovered. most of them wind up falling into the ocean. let's dig deeper on this within a expert now. adam frank is a professor of astrophysics at the university

of rochester. he's also the author of the book "light of the stars: alien worlds and the fate of the earth." adam, thank you so much for sharing part of your afternoon with us. i'm curious, when i look at this picture, it looks like a piece of grbroken asphalt. how do you know it's a meteorite and also, what are meteorites made out of? >> yeah, well, first of all, as a son of the great state of new jersey, i want to say, of course it fell in new jersey, where else, right? i'm just saying. but they'll analyze it to make sure it's a space rock. but metal meteorites particularly interesting to us, because these are construction debris left over from the assembly of the solar system 4.5 billion years ago. and this thing has been floating around in space that long. and the metal ones are very rare, because they are actually -- this is probably something that almost formed a

planet, and so the metal sank to the bottom, just like we have the metal core in the earth, and then there was an apocalyptic impact that broke it up and eventually it reached the earth. >> that is fascinating. adam, of all the places that this thing could have landed, forgive me, with all due respect, why new jersey? like, is there specifically a reason that these things fall in certain areas versus others? >> well, that's what i was saying. of course the space rock went to new jersey! no, actually, it's really rare to fall any place where there are human beings. you would think like, most of the world is ocean, then you have desolate mountains and deserts. so it's pretty rare to actually have one fall someplace where somebody can get to see it fall and get to it. i was particularly surprised that, you know, it tore through the ceiling, but didn't keep going. didn't tear all the way and blow a hole all the way to the basement, which shows that the air resistance actually slowed it quite a bit, because these

things are incredibly -- 400,000 miles an hour or so in space, but once they get to the atmosphere, the atmosphere really slows them down. so it landed and only punched through the roof and didn't make it any further. you really see the effect of the earth's atmosphere, which usually burns these things up. >> that's a pretty good hardwood floor, i guess, if it took that impact, too, right? adam, what happens to the meteorite now? you mentioned some testing. does it wind up in a museum and could these folks potentially see some cash? >> well, you know, it depends on this one. i think probably people are going to want to at least -- when you find one of these things, the instant thing -- the first thing they want to do is get it into a refrigerator. actually, these things have been cold in space, and when they come through the earth's atmosphere, they tend to warm up the outside, but you want to preserve that interior. so you want to keep them cold, so you can kind of cut them open and see, these things have hints

about the birth of the solar system. this is pristine material leftover from the assembly of the planets. so probably, you know, someone's going to want to cut these open and do some studies on it. but it may be that it comes back to the family. and sometimes these thingses can fetch a reasonable amount of money. if it goes back to the family, if they want to sell it, they could, or if they want to keep it, they could, because how many people have space rocks that blew through their roof? >> that is pretty cool. a reasonable amount of money, a good reason to keep your eye on the sky and potentially also on ebay. adam frank, thank you so much for the time. appreciate it. >> it's my pleasure. thank you. >> of course. jim? >> and apparently keep it in tupperware in your fridge, so we hear. another story we're following, a pivotal decision coming on birth control pills. the fda weighs whether to allow them to be sold over the counter for the first time ever. we're going to explain what advisers are considering today in a key meeting. tempur-pedic. and it responds to snoring, so you don't have to. so, no more e nudging your partner. or sleeping g on the other side...

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