>> are you really going? >> yes. i'm being dead serious. >> i'm just getting used to you. >> this one is of the few times that she doesn't know. >> i have a lot of kids, so she may not be watching. >> the am i watching the four kids? >> yes, i will do that. that's what a good friend does. >> thank you. i'll drop them off the day before we leave. >> sounds great. >> cnn this morning continues right now. >> this was a very unfair trial. that's all you have to say. >> i heard the verdict. i felt nothing is more powerful than the -- >> i think the new york legal system is off the rails when it comes to donald trump. >> he does what he wants. and we think we'll overturn the second time.

>> will is a question, where did this guy get his money? >> seems like chickens are coming home to roost. if you lie enough, somebody will find the truth. >> the nation is close to the first in american history. >> i know we have time. we could do it easily. but do we have the will? >> more migrants by the hundreds if not thousands arrive hourly into this mexican border city. by no means is this their last stop. >> this just covider title 42 is set to expand. >> it's going to be chaotic for a while.

>> best in show tonight. >> buddy holly. he is on top of the world in new york. the first ever. >> buddy holly is the epitome of a show dog. and we're just so proud of him. and this is so surreal. >> good morning, everyone. we're so glad you're with us. it is 7:00 a.m. here on east coast. kaitlan is on assignment for a significant trump town hall tonight right here on cnn. >> kaitlan was born for this. i'm looking forward to voters getting questions answered in new hampshire as well. thank you, phil mattingly for being here. >> thanks for having me. donald trump is lashing out it he jury here in new york city after they found he sexually abused and defamed e. jean carroll. trump was still posting on social media after midnight calling the jurors partisan.

>> what can you expect from a jury from an anti-trump area which is probably the worst place in the united states for me to get a fair trial. you don't even know who this woman is. i have no idea who she is, where she came from. this is another scam. >> it took the jury three hours find trump guilty of sexually assaulting her and then defaming her. they ordered trum top pay $5 million in damages. he's vowing to appeal. e. jean carroll will join us live right here in studio just over an hour from now. after her huge legal victory. now worth noting this was a civil trial, no the criminal case. there is no consideration of jail time. it was about liability and financial penalties. we want to bring in federal

prosecutor. this is significant. this is a very big deal in terms of the jury's decision to not hold him libel for rape but hold him libel for sexuality. the trump lawyers are trying to use that as something to muddy the waters about what this actually meant. >> sure. we see this quite a lot in these kind of sex cases. i do a lot of them. i was a prosecutor and defended these cases all the time. when you see a jury come back with a lesser included finding, typically what that means is that the jury believes that something happened and they don't quite know about the penetrative element to it which is what the rape is. but there was some sort of nonconsensual -- [ no audio ] that comes from other witnesses. will so in this ok, for example, e. jean carroll told other friends after the assault that something happened.

and perhaps the jury wasn't quite able to say specifically what that act was. that there was some sort of nonconventional touching. it is pretty common in these sort of cases to have that sort of finding. but my guess is that it came from the corroborating evidence in addition to her testimony. >> i think this really highlights the importance of a law that was passed here in new york not long ago, the adult survivor act. and that created a one-year period in which people like miss carroll can say this is what happened to me. and the legal system could actually go to work for them. how significant is that? >> obviously, that law really gave opportunity for this case to be litigated in the simple forum. this is not a criminal consequence here. there is no conviction. there is no jail time on the table. but clearly, if there is any sort of allegation that something unwanted happened in a sexual realm, that law covers this. now, the testimony of miss carroll was specifically she what raped. there is that disconnect there

between her testimony and the finding of the jury. but it doesn't mean that the finding is inappropriate. it just means that there was some sort of lack of finding completely what she said was true had happened. there was something along those lines that they found. and, again this is not a beyond a reasonable doubt standard. this is preponderance of evidence. >> stick us with, we're going to make you earn this visit. >> george santos could appear in court after criminal charges were filed against him. the charges remain under seal. the justice department has reportedly been investigating allegedly false statements on his campaign finance filings. santos has also been accused of violating federal conflict of interest laws, stealing cash meant for iraq war veterans dying dogs and masterminding a

credit card fraud scheme. the charges come just a month after santos announced he would run for re-election despite the fierce backlash and calls to resign. democrats and republicans after reports revealed he lied to voters about much of his personal and family history. it felt a little inevitable. what do you make of the charges that have been filed? >> it's long overdue. if you're that much of a prolific liar, i found it is hard to stay out of jail for significant period of time. so, obviously, there is a lot of potential here in terms of what the charges might be. likely related to campaign finance violations. potentially to embezzlement of this charitable fund and anything along those lines. clearly, this does not directly impact his ability to rerun and potentially even remain in congress and kevin mccarthy said they will wait for the charges to play out.

>> he could be in court as early as today and that's when the charges are unsealed and the public will know what they are? >> that's what we anticipate at this point. >> thank you. >> sure. >> we're looking at live pictures right out of new hampshire that is where former president trump is going to take questions from voters there in that critical state. also undeclared voters in a town hall. he merged as a front-runner in the republican field for president in 2024. it will be his first appearance on cnn since the 2016 presidential campaign. that's where we find our kristen holmes. great to see you. this is your beat. this is the first time -- a quenl consequential week for the president here taking the

questions on cnn. >> that's right, poppy. remember, when it comes to the former president, nothing is predictable. i spoke to a number of trump advisors who huddled with him yesterday. they went over potential questions. they talked about what the event was going to look like. and their real hope is he stays on message. he talks about foreign policy and the economy and immigration. again, that is their hope. donald trump is going to say what he's going to say. when i talk to the advisors, they really stress the fact that they understand that trump has some work to do with republican voters pt o voters. that's why he is doing this town hall. he wants to reach people outside of his bubble. of his base. it's not just that he's doing this town hall. the first time he's appearing in -- he's invited since 2016. the campaign is running ads on cnn as well. shows you that they're trying to reach people. again, outside of his base. the real thing that we're watching for tonight is which

trump shows up and how he reacts to the questions that are asked? i don't mean just out loud. i mean behaviorally. how does he gristle, how does he react when it comes to a physical component? that's what we're looking at later tonight when we see him on that stage. >> kristen, it's phil. reporting behind the scenes of this is fascinating. we're trying to figure out the angle and strategy into agreeing to do this. t are his advisors confident he's ready for this it is down? i sat very close to caitlyn collins at the white house. i wouldn't want to be interviewed by her, ever. but he doesn't have contentious interviews. he doesn't confront interviewers that are willing to go after him for lying, saying things that aren't tethered to reality. he is ready for that? >> this is a question i asked over and over again. they believe they have prepared him to react to this in the appropriate way. but when it comes to the former

president, again, he is a very reactive person. unclear what we're going to get when he sits down tonight. he could have every intention of staying on message. it really depends on, again, how he reacts to those questions. we'll have to wait and see. they hope he stays on message. >> thank you. we're tuning in tonight. kaitlan will not ramoderate ton. >> the republican leaders will give it another shot as they race against the clo being to raise the nation's debt ceiling or risk the first in u.s. history. biden says he made it clear in yesterday's overal office meeting that default is not an option. after leaving the immediating, kevin mccarthy says they failed to make any breakthroughs at all. >> everybody in this meeting reiterated the positions they were at. i didn't see any new movement.

the president said the staff should get back together. but i was very clear with the president. we have now just two weeks to go. >> noi again, the president and those top four congressional leaders will sit down on friday. staff discussions in the meantime. treasury secretary janet yellen says they have weeks to broker a deal. treasury secretary says the u.s. may not be able to pay bills as soon as june 1st if congress and the president don't act. financial analysts say this will be catastrophic for the nation's global economy and global economic crisis certainly a possibility. they're warning it could cause a recession, cost millions of americans their jobs. our reporter is live at the white house this morning. hey, buddy. good to see you. my teammate, sorry. also biassed towards presilla. he is set to speak about the debt limit. the location is intentional. what do we expect? >> we expect that he is going to dig in his heels, too. i mean this is indig dif of

wher -- indicative of where they were yesterday. there really wasn't any new ground broken as part of the conversations. the with each side sticking to their stances which is that biden sees they should -- they should plan to send a clean debt ceiling bill whereas, republicans want to see spending cuts. biden said in remarks he is open to talking about spending cuts but separately but none attachment to the debt ceiling. the two leaders as you heard there from kevin mccarthy really just digging in and that is what we expect to hear from president biden today when he speaks in upstate new york. biden does have travel plans against that june 1 deadline. he indicated he may skip that if they have not reached an agreement. the next few days are important with leadership staff meeting to try to find some sort of agreement ahead of that friday meeting, again, between

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i met with the mexican president for an hour today. we're doing all we can. the answer is, it remains to be seen. it is going to be chaotic for a while. >> that was a candid assessment from the president last night. he said we can expect the border to chaotic. title 42 will expire tonight.

u.s. officials estimate around 155,000 migrants are camped out in shelters and along the streets along the border. joining us now is former acting secretary of homeland security chad wolf. thank you for joining us. i want to start with your view of the proposals the administration put into place over the course of the last couple weeks. where do you think they should be doing more in your mind? >> it's a great question. i think certainly on the deterrent side. the measures they're putting in place, you know, they announced last week and have announced over the last several months is really talking about processing more and more illegal aliens into the country quicker and quicker. so, that is problem at atic. that's what the cartels want to hear and see. they can market that to

individuals saying you're getting into the united states quicker. they're giving you more opportunities to come to the united states. we really got to address a little bit of the deterence. we have to hold temperature accountable that if they choose to cross illegally in he will passer or elsewhere along -- el paso or elsewhere along the border, we're going to hold them accountable. we need to funnel people to those ways and stop the illegal behavior. that's what's causing the border to be in such chaos at the moment. >> along the lines, you say that. the administration, is i think, as far as i know, about to expire an asylum law. they're getting a lot of flack from democrats, from their congressional allies on that. why is that not enough? that's deterence. that is similar to what you were doing. why is that not enough? >> so, i'm looking at that rule. it's a good first step. again, i'm not sure why they base he cannily didn't defend

that rule at the beginning of the administration. that was still in place from the trump administration. so we're two years late in that rule. there is a lot of loopholes in that rule. it's a good first step. so they're trying to do the right thing. but what i will tell you is it's far too little far too late at this point. that rule alone is not going to do it. the parole system that they put in place paroling in 30,000 individuals. all you have to do is register on that app. you'll probably get paroled into the united states. these are pull factors bringing the illegal aliens in record numbers. you don't have to take my word for it. look at the data and statistics. more and more individuals are am coming in, more and more got aways are coming across that border every single month. there is a reason for that. i think it's in part some of the policies that we have seen over the last 27 months. >> do you think title 42 should stick around?

>> it's been extremely helpful for the border patrol to really manage the crisis that they're seeing. when you're overwhelmed to the extent that border patrol agents are every single day this allows them to return individuals back to mexico in a very does expedited fashion. without that, dhs has to put the individuals in title 8 proceedings and most if not all of them will be released into american communities. so if we're thinking about americans first, we're thinking about the safety and well-being of americans, title 42 authority or like authority is very helpful when the border is in such chaos and overwhelmed to the extent that it is today. >> the reason why i ask, i think you said like authority this is obviously tied to a public health emergency. i don't think you would say that covid is still a public health emergency. i think it's been utilized long after it was tied to that anymore. so the question becomes this takes legislative action. i think one area of broad

agreement from both parties, the system itself is broken. what do you do? you can't actually legally still have title 42 in place if there is no public health emergency. what is your solution here in terms of legislative process beyond kind of one off from the executive side? >> you're right. when you look at title 42, unless the administration is going to declare a public health emergency around the fentanyl crisis, there is probably legitimacy to that, it is probably going to take legislative action if you're just looking at title 42 authority. there is a number of things that the president, the dhs secretary can do today to help curve this crisis. there is a number of authorities that they inherently have and can execute on today. they're not doing that. they called on congress to give them more authority. i think we're seeing some action in the house this week on that. but, again, the legislative process is not quick.

its slow. so, i would -- big champion and fan of utilizing the authority that they have today to help stem the crisis, to help bring some order back to the border and to help border patrol agents that have been overwhelmed now for the last 27 months. >> last one before i let you go. is it possible to do the deterence you think is necessary and also maintain a safe and humane system? >> i think it is. i think can you do both. you've got to bring, again that, order, that deterrence. you can still give individuals that really need the protections found in u.s. law. how do we get them the protections early in the process so they're not waiting five years that they don't welcome lost into the system? i think that is really the point here. we tried to do that. i think successfully with the remain in mexico program. this administration doesn't like that. so what are the other alternatives? and no my mind, they haven't

given -- they haven't come up with the alternatives because we continue to see these record numbers at the border every month. >> i don't think remain in mexico is going to be humane. but chad wolf, keep the discussion going fon ar a very g time. i appreciate your time. >> all right. we have breaking news. the chief spokesperson for the israeli defense forces says more than 60 rockets have been fired toward israel from gaza in just the last 45 minutes. let's go back to jerusalem. what are you hearing? sirens, right? >> poppy, we're not hearing sirens here in jerusalem. they have now sounded in tel aviv. that will be seen as something of an escalation by the idf on the part of the militants in the gaza strip. they don't have that many rockets that can reach that far. and this is something that will be taken seriously. sirens are sounding in the

cities and communities surrounding the gaza strip. about a million and a half israelis are in or near bomb shelters now. earlier today, the homefront command ordered those people in the communities around gaza strip to remain in shelters until further notice. sirens are constantly sounding. they're getting con stand reports from the idf saying they're striking either infrastructure from islamic jihad rocket launching structure and, of course, if they see a rocket that is about to fire. most of them are on timers. they're put out there, ready to fire. israel spots any of the launches. that are ready to fire. it will take them out. so we're seeing more and more air strikes from israel into the gaza strip. but at the same time, these rockets continue to be launched from gaza towards is whiz sirens.

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significant health news this morning that will impact millions of women in the united states. the u.s. preventative services task force is now recommending that women should get regular mammograms starting at 40e yea older that, is ten years earlier than the recommended age. the goal is to screen for breast cancer that kills 43,000 women in the u.s. each year according to the american cancer society. joining us now is the chief of breast surgery at mount sinai health systems. great to have you. thank you very much for being with us. so, 40. i'm 41. i started -- i started getting these lyear because my doctor recommended it. but the guidance not until you're 50, right? >> it's important to understand that originally based on tons of

data and research showing that mammograms starting in age 40 do save lives. we have known that all along. this is a reversion back to where we were initially. very welcome reversion act. >> i think one thing that is important that we would like to get to next is when we were reading this reporting last night, it's a disparity. how much more likely black women are to die of breast cancer than white women? >> 40%. >> so women of color have a propensity to develop a type of breast cancer. they're way more likely to develop a type of breast cancer that is known as triple negative breast cancer. it is more aggressive. it can develop at earlier ages. it's increased risk of dying. so this is a group of women that we do need to start screening

earlier. >> that's a big reason why this updated guidance is so critical. that's kpa compared to all wome that are affected by this aggressive kind of breast cancer. and we've got to start screening them earlier. >> and early detection is the whole ball game. right? >> absolutely. early detection saves lives. and another piece of information that i really think is important and is much less known is that it also saves lives doing less aggressive treatment. if you're getting screened, way more likely to pick up cancers earlier when a woman may not need aggressive surgery, aggressive chemotherapy.

and that's a huge win, too. that is really important to know. it's not commonly discussed. >> obviously, a question often is what about cost? is my insurance -- is any insurance even government provided going to cover this cost? i always had mine through my insurance fully covered. i think that is important for people to understand. >> yes. and that's the thing we worry about. you're 100% right. these people sit up and take notice when these national guidelines come through and insurers can use it as fuel to stop coverage. >> what should people do if they call their insurance and says, no, we don't cover it at 40? >> that's a problem. and obviously, many women who can't afford to get mammograms on their own are hamstringed by that. >> right. >> so far we haven't seen too many denials. and the truth of the matter is, you know, the national

guidelines from the professional societies never changed and never wavered in starting it 40 and importantly yearly after that. we're still not there yet with the guidelines. >> whenever i go, i put june. i put in an appointment for next year to remind myself to make it. so just something to remind everyone. >> yes. very smart. and i applaud that. >> thank you, doctor. thank you. >> thanks for having me. federal prosecutors filing charges against george santos. he could appear in court today. what he could be in trouble for. plus, how other republican presidential contenders are reacting to the sexual abuse and defamation verdict against donald trump. who is speaking up? who is staying silent?

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tonight donald trump returns to cnn for the first time since the 2016 presidential campaign. he is participating in a presidential town hall in new hampshire moderated by kaitlan collins. it comes as the primary field is beginning to take shape. we're still in the early stages. i'm sure a lot of people like it to stay in early stages. this is starting to get real. take a look at where things stand today. who is actually in the ring? the former president. he was in the race the first one in. also, former south carolina governor nikki haley, asa hutchison and the hand that got a little hot early is also in right now. more are coming. the best time line to get in, how you challenge? here's one. south carolina governor senator is not officially announced yet.

the plan is moving in that direction. they think very highly of the republican senator. whether he will be able to challenge. a very open question. he'll have money and name rorgs and respect. who else is out there? this is also interesting. former vice president mike pence is traveling all over country before he makes a decision. chris christie was in 2016. he has been lambasting former president donald trump as he tries to figure out whether there is a lane he is considering. former new york governor hasn't made a decision. this is the one that everyone has their eyes on. florida republican governor desantis. he was the hottest item in the republican party for the months leading up to now. that has started to shrink a little bit. no the just in the polling but also in perception. what hasn't shrunk is the amount of money he has in the campaign and this reality which has been clear for several months. this at this point is a two

person race with one of those people having a significant polling event. you take a look at the two most recent polls. donald trump with a 26 point lead over desantis. the most recent poll, 32-point lead over desantis in the fox news poll. let me tell you, it's very early. it's really early. maybe we don't pay a ton of attention to polls, but that is a notable number which underscores this reality. these two, not so close as they were there at this point in time. on people that everyone has their eyes on. they've got money. they have clear authority within the republican party. and they have long been viewed to go at one another. there are super pacs are already doing that. >> ron desantis loves sticking his fingers where they don't belong. and we're not just talking about pudding. desantis has his dirty fingers all over senior entitlements. >> donald trump is being tacked by a democrat prosecutor in new york. why he is spending millions attacking the republican

governor in florida? trump's stealing pages from the pelosi playbook. >> ramping up is an understatement. buckle up, folks. it's campaign season. poppy? >> yeah. thank you. will former vice president mike pence reacting to the jury verdict that trump sexually abused and defamed e. jean carroll with this response. >> does that result change your view about whether or not he is fit to serve as president? >> i think that's a question for the american people. i really can't comment on a judge nent a civil case. i have no knowledge of those matters. and i'm sure the president will defend himself in that matter. i would tell you in my 4 1/2 years serving alongside the president, i never heard or witnessed behavior of that nature. >> so far silence from several other perspective white house hopefuls except for former

arkansas governor and now presidential contender asa hutchison. listen to what he said on cnn last night. >> republicans should not be dismissing this and saying this is not of any significance. it is and the jury system workeded in this case. they want to lead the free world to have this kind of serious issues around is a significant factor. >> really matters is what voters think. will this verdict change how they feel about former president trump and how they'll vote? joining us now is senior national politics reporter and very serious writer. great to you have both. thank you. thank you. >> thank you. >> so we know how some voters feel night. i suspect this will be a topic that, i don't know, but voters may ask about tonight at the town hall. >> yes. start to get an early sense. listen, if we were in a traditional political climate this would clearly be a

liability. but we're not in a conventional climate. i think about my time last year in georgia. i met a lot of conservative voters on the trail at the herschel walker rallies and a consistent theme is they felt that conservatives were targeted. they said that the onslaught against herschel walker, they also related that to justice kavanaugh. so with this outcome with the e. jean carroll case, i think it gives them more fodder for concerns. i think that republican voters are likely to rally around trump. but some could be turned off by this. >> this is so put together. your writing this very serious. you're introduced as a very serious writer and nobody puts the quotes around "very serious." >> it is brilliant. >> there you go. >> i think the question right now is we saw some of the ads from the super pacs where the desantis super pac is going

after trump. few republicans as we watch actually do that. i feel like to some degree when you talk to people inside the republican operative world they're starting to come to terms with the fact that the former president is going to be the nominee again. it's like a year away from the general election. do you feel like this is a done deal at this point? >> i don't think it's a done deal yet. i don't think we've seen the full scope of the desantis attacks on donald trump yet. i think the road map for ron desantis is that you have to make the case that trump says he's fighting for you but he lost a lot of the fights. he ultimately, you know, whatever you think about the conduct of the 2020 election, he came out of it. he was no longer president. many of the covid restriction that's the conservatives were upset about were imposed under his rule and kept anthony fauci in place through that entire year or nearly a year that the former president was president during the covid pandemic. and so i think there is that case to be made. desantis is not making it. he's not a candidate yet. i think we need to see what that looks like. i don't think this verdict matters a lot for the primary.

i think, frankly, we knew the former president admitted to this sort of behavior as we heard the access hollywood tape. it was a key piece of evidence in this trial going to his propensity to treat women in a manner that e. jean carroll accused him. that is priced in. when we talk about herschel walker, most republicans discard the accusations and he lost that race when others were winning the races in georgia. i think there say real penalty for trump's behavior. i think it applied in 2016, 2020 and something that has been an electoral liability for him. i don't think it is a new electoral liability. >> what about george santos and where this goes? we'll see maybe in court today these federal charges unsealed. the question now is for speaker mccarthy. so what are you going do about it? >> yeah. we'll have to see if he, you know, believes that this is untenable. obviously, republicans have a very slim majority. and that is why we have seen

this consistent reluctance to really, you know, fully distance himself from the embattled congressman. poppy, you know, i have spent the last several months talking to constituents in that district. i think, you know, we'll learn what the charges are today. that is important. we should not forget the people that live in this district. and, you know, fundamentally beyond all the theater, it's about constituent services and serving your community. and when you are just ensnared in all this controversy and now indicted on federal charges, it's really hard to do that. >> i want to ask you another issue that is hanging over washington is age number question about it. senate democratic caucus and dealing with feinstein who came back after being away for a while, whether you're presidential candidate is 80, already the oldest president in u.s. history and facing off against somebody that is almost as old as well, there is a really interesting piece of

sound that doesn't sound like something i'm listening to on the radio. it is actually very astute atak on politics of i want to you to listen. >> people that say that they don't want them people running. isn't this a democracy where we get to decide? >> no. it's not americans don't have any other hooption because we'r in a two-party system. we're stuck with what we got. that is a damn shame. >> that's alarm bells material for the white house. they care what they think. about it what do you make of that argument? >> this is the same thing that they were saying in october at 2020. he was saying, you know, i'm going in on voting and voting for kamala harris. i'm not casting a vote for joe biden. they had an open primary process in 2020. joe biden had no support among commentators. he led the polls the whole way through. he reflects a base that likes

the low-key style. and that low-key style appeals to a broader segment of the electorate than would be the case if necessity elected elizabeth warren or kamala harris or bernie sanders. biden never got the respect he deserved for how broad his appeal has been. and, you know, yes, you see the polls that say people prefer some other candidate. you asemther specific candidates, they don't beat joe biden in the primary. i think that you can always conjure up in your mind an ideal candidate that you would v i think some people want barack obama back. you can't have barack obama back. i think if joe biden was weak in the party, he would be facing a serious primary challenge. >> >> i think he is saying outloud on a popular show what a lot of people are saying at home with friends. >> absolutely. this raw take mirrors, i think, the sentiment of a lot of voters i speak to. speaking to young progressive

activists they say this is going to be a tough sell to get young progressive voters out to support president biden again. so charlemagne is not speaking in a vacuum here. >> thank you. good to have you both on set. >> very serious writer. >> very serious great journalist to my left as well. >> that's very -- >> thanks, guys. also, tucker carlson saying he is relaunching his show on twitter. what elon musk had to say. and more than 10,000 migrants were encountered on the u.s. southern border yesterday alone. we are going to take you there. they need windshield wipers, it's not too late for another treatmenent option. to leaearn more visit treatted.com. that's treaeatt-e-d.com.

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are rigorously inspected to live up to the highest of expectations. show we have been doing for six and a half years to twitter. for now we are grateful to be here. free speech is the main right that you have. without it, you have no others. see you soon. >> just two weeks since tucker carlson was fired from fox news he is announcing he is relaunching his show on twitter. he praise the the social media platform as a bastion of free

speech while criticizing the media industry at large. unclear how this will work. elon musk posted that twitter has not signed any deal whatsoever and he said that carlson, quote, is subject to the same rules and rewards of all content creators. >> according to "the new york times" carlson is under contract with fox to 2025. cnn reached out to fox for comment. a spokesperson could not immediately be reached. joining us for more details is cnn media analyst and axios media reporter sara fisher. you have some new reporting. this is fascinating element. how tucker carlson is trying to get around the contract issue. what are you learning? >> yeah, so tucker carlson's lawyer sent a letter to fox news executives yesterday alleging that they breached his contract because bunch of executives, including rupert murdoch, made

promises to carlson saying if you give us some personal communications we will protect you. the lawyers are alleging they didn't do that, they were responsible for potentially leaking communications to the news immediate, et cetera. they are saying in breaking those promises it would be a breach of his contract. that would get tucker out of a noncompete clause in his contract that prohibits him from launching ventures, going on other networks, et cetera. as you mentioned, because his contract ends in 2025, that would sideline him through the 2024 election. >> what about advertisers? obviously, a challenge that fox faced with advertisers pulling out of carlson's high slots, high ratings, they started to see the ratings in that time slot fall when he left. how would this play out on twitter vis-a-vis advertisers? >> a great question. the news media is one type of sector has not fled twitter. a lot of advertisers still use

twitter because it's a great platform. ther is still a big audience there. how it would work on a show like that, it's unclear. twitter has a program called amplify where it works with certain media partners to place premium brands around their content. i don't think premium brands didn't want to be around tucker's show on fox will be jumping at the bullet to be being around that show on twitter. i don't think this is a revenue play for tucker. i think he wants to reach opinion leaders. he thinks twitter is the place to do into. i expect he will do this alongside other ventures. maybe he has a twitter show and a subscription product, a twitter show and newsmax or daily wire or other conservative outlet. i don't think this is going to be his money play. >> paramount announced it's shutting down conviction generationally relevant for me mtv news.

vice media cancelled vice news tonight. there have been cuts in recent months, including cnn. what does this say about the current media landscape? >> it's tough, phil. i cover this closely. when the ad market dipped in wake of inflation after the pandemic news media companies were impacted badly because if you have to put your messaging around something if you're a brand you want to do it in the most cost efficient way. put them on google and facebook. so what happened is a lot of these companies are facing investor pressure. buzzfeed are publicly traded, paramount, olympicly traded. investors want to see them put their eggs in the lucrative baskets, entertainment content, not news. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. "cnn this morning" continues right now. i have absolutely no idea who this woman is. the verdict is a disgrace, a continuation of the greatest witch hunt of all time.

>> good morning, everyone. it is the top of the hour. a paying hour, a big day, a big rest of the week ahead of us. we are very glad you are with us. minutes from now e. jean carroll will join us live in studio after winning her lawsuit against former president trump. what she has to say to that response from the former president that you just heard. and then tonight trump will be right here on cnn for a town hall. he will face questions from our very own kaitlan collins. >> and congressman george santos could turn himself in as soon as today after being charged by federal prosecutors. if that's not enough news for you, tomorrow the controversial title 42 border policy ends. >> friday, time is running out to raise the debt limit and president biden is set to hold another round of talks with congressional leaders as our nation faces a potentially cat strovg default. this hour of "cnn this morning" starts. ♪