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it is the top of the hour. a paying hour, a big day, a big rest of the week ahead of us. we are very glad you are with us. minutes from now e. jean carroll will join us live in studio after winning her lawsuit against former president trump. what she has to say to that response from the former president that you just heard. and then tonight trump will be right here on cnn for a town hall. he will face questions from our very own kaitlan collins. >> and congressman george santos could turn himself in as soon as today after being charged by federal prosecutors. if that's not enough news for you, tomorrow the controversial title 42 border policy ends. >> friday, time is running out to raise the debt limit and president biden is set to hold another round of talks with congressional leaders as our nation faces a potentially cat strovg default. this hour of "cnn this morning" starts.
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♪ ♪ force wrap . as cnn first reported, george santos is now facing federal criminal charges and could appear in court as soon as today. the charges remain under seal. they are in the east district of new york. the justice department has reportedly been looking into whether he broke campaign finance laws. santos has been resisting calls from democrats and some new york republicans to resign ever since reports revealed he lied about much of his personal history and work experience. when do we expect them to be unsealed and what reporting do you have on what they are likely tied to? >> reporter: yeah, poppy, much of the reporting coming from our colleague mark morales and evan president zelenskyy. george santos could appear as early as today. if he comes forth, he would have
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to be, like any other citizen, walk up the long stairway to the door. of course, he is not necessarily like every other citizen. he will probably be swarmed by press if, when he shows up today. the indictment under seal. it's not clear what charges the congressman could face. we know from previous cnn reporting he has faced a lot of scrutiny about how he's made his money and contributions that he made, a loan to his campaign in 2022 about more than $700,000. where did that money come from? this is all something we have reported, that federal prosecutors in new york were looking into. there has been scrutiny about campaign expenditures. that will all be determined when the indictment is unsealed which we think possibly today we will wet more information about that. what we do know is that the republican congressman who again just took office in january, he did not vote last night in
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washington, d.c. instead, he boarded a plane to come here to new york. it's possible we will see him here in central islip later today, poppy. >> thank you very much. title 42 expires tomorrow according to president biden it's, quote, going to be chaotic for a while. now, you will recall this is the pandemic-era border policy that all allowed border authorities to deport certain migrants. it's estimated 150,000 migrants are camped along the southern border right now. dhs official tells cnn border officials encountered 10,000 migrants yesterday alone. cnn's david culver is in ciudad juarez, mexico. your reporting has been very eye-opening. what are you seeing as we get closer to this deadline? >> it's interesting, phil. you mentioned president biden warning about this being potentially chaotic. we saw some of that chaos overnight. we were monitoring a lot of the border wall here.
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what you are looking at on the mexico side is the u.s. side, that is technically u.s. soil where you see a lot of the migrants waking up in the morning chill here in ciudad juarez, and while they are on u.s. soil they haven't been processed to the other side of the border wall. overnight we saw an increased presence of texas national guard, a himix of u.s. army soldiers and it seemed at one point they were going to push those migrants back on to the mexico side. now, that didn't happen. so then you saw migrants thinking, maybe they are going to process us. but that adds to at confusion. and it's confusion that has played out over months and it has led to excitement, hope, and disappointment as they see they are still waiting. on the u.s. southern border young voices shouting for water.
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>> agua! >> reporter: already on texas soil, technically having already illegally crossed the rio grande, hundreds of migrants camp out between the barbed wire and border wall waiting to be processed for asylum. title 42 still in effect for this group that means they could be immediately expelled by u.s. border officials. the pandemic-era policy offering no geuarantees for their asylum claims to be heard if it expires thursday, title 8 takes over, requiring asylum officers to process each claim, potentially overwhelming border officials, already trained. strained. worsening this humanitarian crisis, the heat. some 90 degrees at midday. you see people bundled up in winter coats and blankets, useful for the night chill and to shield themselves from the scorching sun. we want some mexican locals to
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help the migrants mostly from latin america. they carry boxes of pizza, water, soda. but it's not a handout. they sell them to desperate customers who then crawl back under the barbed wire with their purchase. as others wait for their fill. but this only a small portion of the tens of thousands in see dad w juarez determined to crouse cross. near to the city center scenes similar to what is already happening and perhaps more of what's to come in u.s. border towns. for those migrants here in ciudad juarez who aren't in a shelter and aren't camping out along the border, some of them are just trying to find places to call home for a few days, a few weeks. one young woman told me she has been here six months. essentially, we are in a construction zone that has been an abandoned building turned into a makeshift shelter of sorts. a lot of tents around me. some have used blank et cetera
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to cordon off certain areas and then put a mattress, if they are lucky, or some just bedding on the floor. and you look around on the outside and you can see clothes hanging up. this is where they have set themselves up ahead of any potential crossing. this as more migrants by the hundreds, if not thousands, arrive hourly into in mexican border city. long dangerous journeys behind them and by no means is this their last stop. they crowd around a hose of running water to wash up and drink. this man skipping the line, going to the source, bathing under the leak. back at the wall, rumblings of hope. a truck from the u.s. side approaches. water shooting from the sides helping to cool the hot sand, but also sparking false hope. some in the crowd rush to fill their empty bottles as others
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worn it's not for drinking. that doesn't quench desperation. >> i think one of the visuals we have as we see a lot of of the crowds building up of many migrants coming here to ciudad juarez and along the mexico border with anticipations and hopes to eventually cross is that there is this massive wave and that it's all going to come down tomorrow. but in talking to a lot of the migrants, they are not looking at tomorrow necessarily as the date they are going to cross. many plan perhaps to try tomorrow, maybe today, maybe in a few weeks. it's determined by their own situation. so while we may see a surge, it could be really just wave after wave after wave rather than one mass tidal wave that i think a lot of us are envisioning with the crowd on this side. >> great reporting. thank you. republican county officials in two upstate new york communities are continuing to push back against new york city mayor eric adams. they have declared a state of
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emergency in hopes of stopping the mayor's plan to send hundreds of asylum seekers to hotels in their counties. listen to this. >> we are not going to accept which is a new york shelter here in rockland county. what they are trying to do, the way it's been described secondhand, is against the zoning laws of the town of orange county and there will be a court case there and, frankly, if you force the issue, what's happening is the law is being broken here. so that's a criminal event. >> talk about that and more with republican congressman mike waller, whose district covers rockland county. that executive of rockland is one of the suburban communities that has been critical of mayor adams' plan. good to have you, congressman. thanks so much. >> you as well. thanks for having me. >> do you agree with the county executive or is there a role that rock land and the communities in your district can and should play in taking in some of these migrants? >> i agree with the county
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executive. rockland county is not a sanctuary county. new york city chose to be a sanctuary city back in 2016. when southern state governors who were overwhelmed then, inundated over the last two years, chose to send migrants to new york city, eric adams called it morally bankrupt, that they were doing that without coordination and cooperation with city officials. he is now to go the very thing he decried by dictating these municipalities that they are going to drop off hundreds if not thousands of migrants in their communities without any coordination or cooperation. rockland county's homeless population is roughly 70 people. this would be five times that, that the mayor is seeking to drop off into this one hotel in rockland county. they don't have the resources nor capabilities with their social service departments, our non-profit agencies to handle this massive influx. by the way, i would just point
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out we have already, in rockland county, taken in many migrants. our one school district took in 1,000 migrant students this past september. so this is not a situation where we are not participating, we're not helping where we can. but the county does not have the capabilities of new york city to handle this. and new york just got $1 billion in the state budget -- >> that's right. >> by the governor to handle this. $1 billion. >> and it is new york city that is funding what would take place in rockland county. >> except for four months. and the problem is, for four months, poppy. and we asked them on a conference call yesterday, i asked the mayor's office, after the four months, who is paying for it? and they said, well, we'll try to round them up and bring them back to new york city. i said if they choose not to come back, who is paying for it? they said i don't know. that's unacceptable. >> new york city processed
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60,000 migrants since last spring, 40,000 remain in new york 12i and the mayor is talking about starting you have to 30 migrants and they are paying for it. just to put a button on this issue, is there no role in which you believe the county iies in r district can help especially when it is being funded for four months at least by the city of new york? >> respectfully, i think you are simplifying the issue here. number one, the mayor is saying we are going to start out with 30, get up to 340. they want to fill the hotel, which can handle 340 people quickly. they said this is a pilot program, which means this is the beginning, not the end. so you're talking about hundreds, if not thousands, more coming into the county. this is their initial decision that they are looking to do. in addition, as the county executive pointed out, the hotel does not have a co to operate as
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a shelter. to turn a hotel, which can only take transient residents up to 30 days, into a four-month shelter that houses 340 people, provides health care, laundry services, food and living is totally unacceptable. in addition, what happens during the day with these folks? they can't get a job. they can't get access to employment. who is taking care of them? this hotel is within a mile of two universities and a high school and you're talking about sending single male adults up here. it is totally unacceptable the way the mayor handled this and the way the city has without any coordination or cooperation and communication well in advance -- they knew they were doing this, and chose not to discuss it with town and county officials until the very moment that they were looking to send them here. there is a temporary restraining order in place barring the hotel from accepting them because it's in violation of the town code.
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so we will see what happens. but i don't see this going well given the way the mayor and the governor v handled it. >> on the debt ceiling, president biden is coming to your district to speak later today about these debt ceiling negotiations that admittedly by both sides went nowhere yesterday at the critical meeting at the white house and speaker mccarthy was asked point blank do you think america will default on its debt and he said, i don't know. can you, representative, guarantee your constituents that america will not default on its debt this summer, maybe as early as june 1? >> poppy, throughout this discussion i have had three parameters. the president must negotiate with the speaker and senate maj majority leader, we must cut spending and umust not default. it's why i'm going to the president's speech today in my district to hear what he has to say, but also to take the opportunity to make the point to him that we have to work together. all of us have a responsibility.
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you know, speaker mccarthy asked the president to meet. they met back in february and then it took 97 days for the president to accept another meeting. that is totally unacceptable -- >> just to -- >> now he is coming to my district to decry the, you know, quote, unquote, maga republicans holding the country hostage. that is not the way you deal with this. the president as vice president negotiated with house republicans previously and that's what he should do again. >> he did, and the argument from the white house would be that they learned a lot from what devolved after those negotiations in 2011. but just to get a yes-or-no answer, can you guarantee your constituents that we will not default this summer at this point? or are you like mccarthy? i don't know? >> look, i am fully committed to making sure we don't default. we cannot default. all of us have an obligation to
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negotiate. i will point out, house republicans are the only ones who passed a bill to raise the debt ceiling. chuck schumer can say until he is blue in the face he wants to pass a clean debt ceiling. he doesn't have the votes to do that. so everybody has an obligation to put their big boy pants on and negotiate. . >> let's talk about george santos. he is going to be in court possibly today on federal charges against him will be unsealed. you have long called for him to step down. you reit's rated that in a press release from your office yesterday. what should kevin mccarthy do? what do you want the speaker to do of your party? >> i have said repeatedly that george santos should resign, and he should. his conduct is unbecoming. it's embarrassing and disgraceful. we'll see what the charges are today. i know the speaker was asked about it yesterday. he made clear that, you know, he has a view on this -- >> no, this is all he said. let me play it for our viewers. this is all he said. here it is.
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>> i'll look at the charges, yeah. >> should he do more than look at the charges? >> no. there was -- respectfully, poppy, he had a press conference later in the day and he was asked further about it and he went in to explain the process he employed in the past when members have been charged. he has allowed them to go through the criminal process but he has removed them from committees. george santos is not sitting on committees and so, obviously, he will not be participating in any committees. that's the speaker's process. my belief is that george santos needs to go. he needs to resign. i have said that repeatedly. and believe if he had any decency or dignity he would. we will see how this plays out. obviously, he is not long for this world in terms of being in elected office and so frankly it's a matter of time. >> we will see. he is planning to run again. before you go, i do want to ask
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you about the federal jury here in new york yesterday finding former president trump sexually abused and defamed the writer e. jean carroll. the jury awarded her a $5 million verdict for battery and defamation. does this make you unwilling to support president trump in 2024? no. i said on your show the day after the election that i'd like to see the party move in a different direction. i think we need a robust primary process. ultimately, the republican voters in the primary will determine who our nominee is. but the former president has a lot of legal challenges afoot, you know, including, obviously, yesterday's verdict. other investigations. charges that have been brought in new york city. and he needs to answer for it and i'm sure kaitlan will ask him about it tonight and he should answer for these charges that have been brought. >> your party's nominee, will you support him and vote for
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him? >> look, i'd like to see a robust primary process. i have said it in the past and i reiterate again. i would like to see the party move in a different direction but i am not going to talk about hypotheticals of where we are. at the end of the day, you know, the republican party needs to be focused on the future and focused on the challenges facing the american people and not perceived grievances of the past or legal challenges facing a candidate. >> congressman mike lawler, thank you for being on on such an important day. we appreciate it. >> thank you. a new york jury has found former president trump liable for sexually abusing and defaming writer kaurl carroll. et has been ordered to pay $5 million in damage. e. jean carroll is here with us live in studio for her first cnn interview since the verdict. stay tuned.
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look at that. welcome back to "cnn this morning." quote, the world finally knows the truth. that statement coming from writer e. jean carroll after she won her civil lawsuit against donald trump. a federal jury in manhattan found that trump sexually abused carroll in a department store dressing room in the '90s and defamed her by denying her claim. trump has been ordered to pay carroll $5 million. the former president reacting on his social media platform. >> what else do you expect from a trump appointed hating judge who made sure that the result of
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this trial was as negative as it possibly could be. speaking to and in control of a jury from an anti-trump area which is probably the worst place in the united states for me to get a fair trial. we will be appealing this decision. it's a disgrace. >> we should note it was an anonymous jury. joining us is e. jean carroll and her attorney roberta kaplan. welcome. >> thank you for having us. >> we will remember that you said i am trying to get my life back. >> yes. >> i am here to try to get my life back. >> yes, yesterday was so -- that was such a happy -- i was such a happy woman. i felt like we had accomplished that. >> you did. >> yeah. >> talk about what you were thinking as the jury's decisions were read off in your mind -- >> we were sitting there like this. robbie's hand, it was like holding a block of ice. and we didn't have any idea what
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the jury was going to do. the former president is incorrect. the jury was not from manhattan. where was it from, robbie? >> mostly westchester and north. >> yeah. six men, three women. his kind of jury, actually. and so when the verdict came in, she squeezed my hand so hard i almost yelped, but it was a great moment. >> what about when that first finding was found, that this jury found that trump did not rape you? what about that moment? >> robbie can explain the legal -- >> sure. and i want you to. but what went through your head when you heard that? >> well, i just immediately say into my head, oh, yes, you did, oh, yes, you did. see, that's my response. >> look, new york law on sexual crimes like this is complicated and probably not appropriate for morning viewers. the truth of the matter is, if
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it's sexual abuse, which he was found guilty of, is a very, very ser serious offense. i am not going to get in the body parts with you it's a very serious offense. most importantly, she wanted her name back as you said at the beginning. she got her name back and the jury found that he lied and he lied about her maliciously. >> i don't think anybody was surprised by the stuff we heard from the former president last night. you addressed him talking about the jury. another thing he and his lawyers often spoke about is the lack of disclosure about a big democratic donor funding part of this case. was there a reason it wasn't disclosed? did you view this as political in any way? >> no. i completely -- it was -- i just completely forgot that he even existed. >> in your deposition? >> yes, in my deposition. >> because trump lawyers have called is that, roberta, a sign of bias. it raises questions about the motives of bringing this case and i wonder what the reaction is. >> every single witness, every
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one of those 11 witnesses who testified in this case testified under oath and told the truth not because they don't like trump, but because it was the truth. that's what this case was about. who was telling the truth? the jury decided that e. jean was telling the truth. there may be witnesses who don't like trump. there may have been jurors that joe tacopina said don't like trump. that process was about the truth under the law and that's what the jury found. >> i don't want to make this a political conversation but the dissonance between the moment yesterday on the front pages of all. newspapers, getting your life back. something you have been thinking about and going through for decades and at the same time looking over and seeing that that man is also the frontrunner for the republican nomination for president and you listen to republicans who were asked about this yesterday and some version of what we heard for six years prior, don't want to talk about it, dodge, say there is something corrupt about the process. how do you kind of reconcile that moment, i guess? >> here is how.
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yesterday the old view of what the perfect victim looks like totally changed. >> what do you mean? >> the old view of the perfect victim was a woman who always screamed, a woman who immediately reported, a woman whose life is supposed to fold up and she is never supposed to experience happiness again. that was just shut down with this verdict. the death of the perfect victim has happened. now this verdict is for all women. this is not really about me. it's for every single woman. >> in the courtroom there was an encounter, exchange between you and the president's lawyer, joe tacopina. he came up. you shook hands, i believe. what did he say? >> joe tacopina is very likable. he is like an 18th century strutting peacock.
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people like him. so when he sticks out his hand -- first he congratulated robbie and then he congratulated people on the team and as i put my hand forward i said, he did it and you know it. and then we shook hands and i passed on. >> did he say anything in response? >> no. he is a hail fellow well met. he went on shaking hands and smiling. >> the response you got afterwards, this is for all woman. a significant number of women were certainly behind new the case, backed you in the case. in the hours since, i don't think you have had a lot of time to check your phone or calls or emails, what's the response been given what you are laying out in terms of the perfect victim being shattered? >> there are no words. there are no words. i just now saw the headlines. i am really sort of taking in
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the moment and overwhelming flood of a lot of hate. that's part of it. but overwhelming amount of relief and joy and feeling of at last and the surge of there is sort of a feeling of victory, that at last somebody has held him accountable in a courtroom. thanks to robbie kaplan. so it's such a mash of overwhelming emotions, it's hard to put into words. >> what about appeals? we heard the president say they will appeal. our paula reid with her brilliant legal analysis earlier talked about that's going to be a tough appeal to make. what would the grounds be when the trump team didn't present a defense and he didn't step foot in that courtroom? your perspective? >> we heard donald trump say on
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the tape that the judge went out of his way to be unfair. able actually, the opposite is true. he went out of his way to be fair to donald trump. he gave him multiple opportunities to show up in the courtroom and testify and donald trump decided not to. there are no issues in this case on appeal. they will make them, but there are no serious issues on appeal and your colleague is absolutely right. >> if trump had -- well, first, do you wish he can come? >> yeah, i did do. >> what would you have said. >> i would have loved to see robbie put him on the stand. i just would have loved it. if you have seen any portions of the deposition, that was robbie doing the questions. >> we have. >> it would have been a glorious moment. however, i think he was frightened. i think he was frightened. i think he was frightened of her. >> what's next? this has to be an all-consuming -- >> i am going to get a dog for my dog because i have been -- so he needs somebody to play with. so i am going to get a dog, go to the pound, great nice dog for
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my dog. >> $5 million. are you going to see it? >> oh, you know what? i was even unaware of how much it was. robbie had to tell me. this is not about the money. not about the money. this is accomplishing something that i set out to do many years ago is to get my name back, and that's what we did. >> but you will see it. >> i want to ask you next -- >> as a lawyer, i promise you e. jean will see etach and every penny of that $5 million. >> something that is important in this, the fact that new york passed this law, adult survivors act. they passed it just a few years ago. were it not for that law, you never would have been been able to this case. it speaks to the importance for a lot of other survivors. >> exactly. this would never -- i would never have this window, this year of having the ability to bring a lawsuit for rape. robbie can explain it better.
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>> e. jean helped to get that law passed. it passed last year. we filed -- it was thanksgiving day, the first day you could sue. we filed just after midnight on thanksgiving. and there are a lot of other women throughout the state and, hopefully, throughout this country that they will get other laws like this passed in other states. new york women should use this law while it's still around, which is until next thanksgiving. >> yeah, there is a reason women stay silent. they are ashamed and frightened and they are worried about their -- this law gives us that one-year window. it's a brilliant law. >> e. jean carroll, roberta kaplan, thank you very much. >> thank you. all right. new federal recommendations that teenagers undergo training before using social media. plus, what a new poll reveals about how much children are already using a.i. and what parents -- that's terrifying -- and what parents should know. the results may surprise you. >> we are worried for our kids. ♪
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bigger part of our lives a major poll finds parents are lagging behind their children on technology. i know that's not a surprise, but we will tell you why it's concerning. the survey from common sense media reveals while both groups feel optimistic for the potential of a.i., 30% of parents say they have used chatgpt. i have not. have you? >> i have. at least -- >> not well. >> compared to 58% of students between ages 12 and 18. other key findings, kid are using it without their parents' or teachers' knowledge and students who use chatgpt for school are three times more likely to use it then a search engine like google. last week the white house announced measures to address the challenges of a.i. and some lawmakers are calling for regulation. listen to this from democratic senator michael bennett, what he told us. >> we are having an epidemic of adolescent mental health issues in america today. i am not saying that's all social media's responsibility, but a huge piece of that is, and they have gone completely
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unregulated here. >> let's talk to jim sire, ceo and founder of common sense media. they advocate for safe technology and media for kids and families. good morning. >> great to be here, poppy. >> what's the big takeaway? >> the big takeaway is that chatgpt and a.i. is coming down the tracks like a freight train. it's going to be a huge issue in our kids' lives and we parents have to get to know what's going on here because it's really going to affect kids' lives, but also how they perform in school. and right now kids know a lot more about it than parents like you and me know. >> i refuse to knowledge my children are better at technology than i am, as inevitable as it is. the velocity of the takeup of the chatgpt is unprecedented.
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when it comes to school, which is the first concern, what are we seeing in terms of the ability to utilize this in the near term immediately on assignments, studying, cheating to some degree? >> well, phil, that's a great question because seriously chatgpt and other forms of a.i. will transform your kids, my kids, poppy's kids education in the coming years. it makes them able to bright essays, to do research much more quickly even than current search does. so it's going to change the way they get educated. but the -- as you mentioned, parents are really concerned kids can cheat with it, could become too dependent on it as opposed to doing the work themselves. we have to make sure as these major new a.i. platforms like chatgpt come into massive use, that there are clear rules, that schools know how they are being used and parents like you and me and poppy also manage this in occur kids' lives and we have to
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get comfortable with chatgpt and other platforms. period. >> i think we have to manage it. parents have a big responsibility in this. i totally agree. schools to an extent. i think companies have a responsibility also. and i am interested what you think about what sam altmann, the ceo and founder of openai told my friend rebecca skjarvis. here is what he said to her. >> i think it doesn't work to do all this in a lab. you've got to get the products out into the world and make contact with reality. make mistakes while mistakes are low. i think people should be happy that we are a little bit scared of this. >> he said you can't figure it all out in a lab. you've got to release it to the world. what do you think? >> really good question. i met with sam this week and i have been meeting with the people who run google who are the other major players right now, with chatbots. and i'm saying the very top people in the company.
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number one, i nthink they realie this will an an incredible impact on society and particularly young people. as senator bennet said in the clip earlier, our government is going to have to step up and regulate this. they failed to do that with social media and we could see the results. there is clearly going to have to be government regulation and leadership here, and right now they are behind the eight ball again. but i think it's going to be incumbent upon openai, that's sam's company and google and other major players to rein this technology in and not to experiment too much and that is going to be relying, therefore, on the goodwill of large corporations. so that's why people like common sense media are around because we have to hold them accountable. quite frankly, this is a major experiment on our kids' lives, on their education, and right now it's being completely conducted by large companies so we have to get involved as parents now. >> look, you were the one in the room with sam with google execs.
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did they say they would rein it in. sunday dar pitch ar said in 2019 he said if a.i. gets too far ahead we may have to pull it back. did they make any commitments to you? >> they did in a broad sense. honestly, we have known sam and satya nadella who runs microsoft and sundar and the head of a.i. at google. i think they care about this. i feel more optimistic that the folks running these big a.i. platforms are concerned about the potential down sides and consequences than, for example, 15 years ago when social media was introduced and you had mark zuckerburg running facebook and buying instagram. i think there is a greater sense of corporate social responsibility, and that's really important and we need to hold them to that. but at the same time our government cannot ton to just live in a vacuum where they don't issue any regulatory
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structure because that leaves it to the goodwill of corporations and then to parents like you and me and phil, and i think that ultimately this could be an extraordinary benefit for society, but the down sides are also extraordinary. so all of us have get involved in this a.i. debate and our government has to finally take the lead. >> i am skeptical of us having a lot of eggs in the congress doing things basket. this is fascinating. >> i agree. >> so much to learn. super important for every parent, every person. thank you so much. >> thank you, jim. >> thanks for having me, guys. and realeased moments ago a key report on inflation. our business team crunching the numbers. we will tell you what they found coming up next. you're an owner. that means that your priorities are ours too. our interactive tools and advice can help you build a futuree for the ones you love. thatat's the value of ownership. - [narrator] we just shipped our millionth monthly coffee subscription box so we're sending custom thank you gifts to our team.
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you can see a little bit better. then month on month, 0.4%, pretty much in line, maybe a little bit lighter than economists had been expecting. you can see the trend, i love show the trend is your friend in these numbers. look at these numbers together and you can see we have seen peaking in the inflation story. this is the smallest 12-month increase in two years. that's good news. ten months in a row of a little bit deceleration. these prices are still too high, no question. shelter was 60% of it, shelter that's a sticky, we call it sticky inflation. you also have gas prices, used car prices up. so those are some. biggest categories we saw. the fed would like to see 2% inflation. so 4.9% is still too hot but slowing. >> slowing and slowing slowly. it shows that the fed's rate hikes are working, but again coming down much more slowly than they went up in terms of
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price increases. >> faster, faster. >> i know. christine, thank you. christine. donald trump found liable for sexual abuse and defamation, that's just one of the negative headlines he's seen in recent months but new polling suggests republican voters may not care. harry enten is here with this morning's number. it ♪ we're reinventing our network. ♪ ♪ ♪ fast. reliable. perfectly orchestrated. the united states postal service.
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this should be familiar, polling suggests trump is still the gop front runner and we are going to need to know why and that's why we have this individual who is going to tell us exactly why, senior data reporter harry enten. what's up? >> all right. so this morning's number is three. why? because trump has led biden nationally in three abc news "washington post" polls this cycle. he led in zero national polls that cnn would put on air during the entire 2020 cycle. so biden clearly in a weaker position versus trump than he was four years ago. yet, you know, i have to point out something, i don't like to just look at one poll singularly, i like to look at a lot of them. biden versus trump nationally recently this abc news "washington post" poll got a lot of play with trump up 6, ipsos, biden plus 5, "wall street journal" biden plus 3, quinnipiac biden plus 2. on the whole i think the picture should say if you thought that joe biden was going to run away
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with the 2024 election that's not the case. at this point it looks very, very tight, guys. >> and at the top of his party for trump. >> that's exactly right. so take a look at this trend line, the top choices for gop nominee and look at what's going on here. we have donald trump, we have ron desantis. back in january look at that, trump was up by only 11 points and he was only at 43%, jump ahead to march, 45% to 28, look now, on average trump has a 30-point advantage over 50% and i want to give you an indication of how strong that is looking forward. right? because polls are just a snapshot in time. look at those that polled near or better than trump's level at this point nonincumbent primaries, bob dole, george bush, hillary clinton. people polling in trump's position have generally gone on to win the nomination. i will point out one last nugget. members of congress or governors
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endorsing trump, so far in the 2024 cycle more than 60. in the entire 2016 primary season just 15. so the fact is trump has very good polling, the backing of a lot of members of his party. at this point the trump train looks difficult to stop but of course we still have many months to go. >> it's early. can i point out one thing? harry's aggregate, is this like a secret internal system that we don't know about because i saw that, whoa, i kind of want to know what that is but i also don't want to know what that is. >> a chef never reveals his recipes. >> harry enten, you are the best, and your aggregate. a reminder kaitlan will moderate an exclusive cnn town hall with former president trump that airs tonight live from new hampshire 8:00 p.m. eastern. thanks for joining us. we will see you here tomorrow. cnn "news central" is riright after this. if she tells me to do something, i usually jump on board.
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