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fraud, money laundering, theft of public funds, and making false statements, just some of the charges against congressman george santos. after spending the day in federal custody, he just pleaded not guilty to 13 counts. so what will speaker mckcarthy do? a major test at the southern border. patrols encountered more than 10,000 migrants on tuesday alone as pandemic restrictions come to an end, our reporters are speaking live with those families desperate to get cross. plus president biden hitting the road to sell his debt ceiling message saying america is not a dead beat nation. new details on ongoing negotiations with republicans as we close in on a crucial default deadline. we're following these major developing stories and many more all coming in right here to "cnn news central."
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new york republican congressman george santos has pleaded not guilty to the 13 federal charges hes faces in court. prosecutors say his bond is set at $500,000, though his travel will be limited. the republican is charged with seven counts of wire fraud, three counts of money launtering, one count of theft of public funds, two counts of making false statements to the house. mark morales was inside the courtroom as the charges were read and santos delivered his plea. tell us what it was like in there and what the congressman's reactions were to these charges. >> reporter: in a lot of ways, this was very procedural. >> standby. this is george santos. we have life pingt pictures.
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from a wider angle, this is george santos walking out of the courtroom. where as our reporter mark morales, who was in the courtroom, was telling us santos just pleaded not guilty to 13 federal counts. among them, three counts of money laundering, seven counts of wire fraud, one of theft of public funds. let's listen in to see if he's answering any questions there. >> take it to the podium.
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>> you hear reporters shouting questions it does appear the kmachb is going to a podium for the opportunity to answer questions. we want to give it a beat to see when that begins. i don't want to speak over him if he does. as we ♪ed, he's just leaving the courthouse in new york, where he plead ed not guilty to 13 federl charges against him. >> marx, we're waiting to see if he does come to camera. there's a the lot of interest in this story. so quite a numb of reporters and cameras there to capture those comments, if it he does speak. i interrupted you before. apologies as you described e events inside the courtroom. describe what you saw.
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>> reporter: right, there was no real demeanor from george santos. he answered yes, ma'am to very procedural questions, whether he understood his rights or waived the reading of the indictment. the interesting part was the agreement on his bond release, which very much included his travel from new york city to long island and to washington, d.c., but if he wanted to travel anywhere else in the united states, he would need to get permission from pretrial services. >> mark, question. his bond, $500,000, who put up the money? >> reporter: that's unclear at the moment. we don't yet know that. i know that there's one more person that needs to put in that bond, and that will happen at the end of the week. that's part of the agreement. we don't know who that is going to post that, but this is definitely somebody that
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prosecutors are already spoken to. everybody has been vetted. the number one thing they wanted each person to understand they are now responsible for george santos. if they are putting up the muffin, they have a responsibility here. >> that's mark morales, cnn reporter inside the courtroom as george santos faced these 13 federal counts and entered his plea of not guilty. you can see him outside the courthouse surrounded by a scrum of reporters and cameras. we're see figure he's going to make a comment now. you can see him there with the sunglasses. >> let him talk. >> perhaps not. he does appear to be walking away now. we wanted to give the opportunity to hear from congressman george santos. , if he was willing to answer
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questions following entering a not guilty plea. you can see him continue to walk away from the courthouse there. the gentleman in sunglasses and blue blazer. mark, did he say anything in the courtroom beyond entering his plea? >> say that one more time. >> did santos say anything else in the courtroom other than entering his not guilty plea? >> hold that thought. he's going to a microphone. let's listen in. >> you're in front of me. all right. we made it here. look at this. i know you all have questions. >> come a little closer. >> i know you all have questions. i know everybody has been waiting for the moment for me to come out and talk to you guys. look, this is the beginning of the ability for me to address and defend myself. we have an indictment. we have the information that the government wants to come after
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me on. i'm goichk to comply. i have been complying throughout this entire process. i have no desire not to comply at this point. they have been gracious in there. now i'm going to have to go and fight to defend myself. the reality is it's a piwitch hunt. it makes no sense that in four months, four months, five months, i'm indicted. you have joe biden's entire family receiving deposits from nine family members receiving money from foreign destinations into their bank accounts. it's been years of exposing a lot of you here have reported on them. and yet, no investigation is launched into them. i'm going to fight. i'm going to fight my battle. i'm going to deliver. i'm going to take care of clearing my name. i look forward to doing that. hold on. hold on. i would like the opportunity for
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some of you guys to ask some questions in an orderly fashion. we'll start right here. go ahead, rachel. >> why would you apply for unemployment benefits when you had a job making $120,000 a year? >> this is part of my defense. this is inaccurate information. i will get to clear my name on this during the pachb demic. it wasn't very clear. pit doni don't understand where government is getting their information. >> prosecutors say you got over $20,000 in unemployment benefits, sir. how is that acceptable? >> like said, my employment was changed during the time. i don't understand where the government is coming from. i will present my defense. >> what evidence do you have that they don't have? >> i have plenty of evidence that we will now be sharing with the government in this case to make sure that i can defend my innocence. >> are you planning on running for reelection? >> yes, i am. >> why should anybody believe you now?
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>> like i said, i will prove myself innocent and we'll move from this. reelection is a very far time from now. >> the $750,000 they said you reported that wrongly. do you have any comment to that? >> like said, i will be delivering all the finances of my company, delivering all my finances to them to dispel their accusations against me. >> you will not resign? >> i will will not resign. >> did you take campaign donations and use that money to buy expensive suits? >> no, i did not. >> do you think you'll win reelection? >> that's not up for me to know. elections are very tricky. it's up to the people. i trust them to decide what's best. >> what do you think will make people believe you this time around? >> like i said, i have asked many times, i want to be judged by the work i do in the body. i stay committed to that. >> i have to go back and vote. tomorrow we have one of the most
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consequential votes in this congress, which is a border bill. i'm looking forward to being there to vote. >> i'm not going to address the speaker. i will address leadership. i appreciate everybody's patience. the media has its ways of doing things. i respect you guys. i maintain good rapport with a lot of you. i have the intention of continuing that open door. some of you from the hill know how to find me. some of you here from the district don't have a hard time finding me. it's about keeping a line of communication. i appreciate leadership for being patient at this time and for allowing the process to play out. i think this is about innocent until proven guilty. i have my right to fight to prove my innocence as the government has the right to find me guilty. >> why haven't you shown any documents to prue your innocence until now? you're being accuseds for a long time. >> because the media is not jury or the judge. so i will present that to the
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juchlk in this courthouse. >> and to the congress. >> if congress requests if, i will present it to them as well. >> will you negotiate a plea? >> it's hard -- i'm address ing one of your colleagues here. i doents -- so as usual, i do my best to be a positive person. life is already a as bad as it gets out there. so i believe i'm innocent. >> there's ab investigation. >> the way i look at it, i will be chairman of a committee if you look at the standards of congress. loork at the senate. >> yet you're being alleged. >> it's alleged. so are you accusing me? are you going to allow the process to play itself and let me clear my name?
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>> how did you first learn about the charges against you and can you talk about the process of surrendering? >> it was very peaceful. these guys did a phenomenal job. we clearly came right under your noses and you didn't see us come in today. now we're leaving. we're addressing you guys. we had all the intention to be out here. i'm going to keep fighting for what inl in and to represent my district. i'm going to fight to deliver results. now i have to deliver to defend my innocence and i'm going to do that. >> governor hochul said you should resign and put your district out its misery. >> i don't represent governor hochul. she's not my constituent. >> i saw your face in court today. you looked pretty stressed. when i say you sit down, what was going through your mind?
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what are you feeling after being in court today weren't. >> when it's your first time in experiencing something of this nature, i think everybody would show some kind of of stress. i don't believe i was stressed. i did the best to keep my composure. but again, this is has been an experience for a book or something like that. >> i appreciate you guys. i appreciate you guys. here's what we'll do. guys? that is information you'll never get because that is the media. your intention is to go harass them and make their life miserable. you're not getting that. >> where's your husband? >> described george santos as defiant having pled guilty to 13 federal charges. he said i will keep fighting. he said he will not resign. he coffin firmed he's running for reelection, which he announced before being charged
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federally here. and notably, using terminology we have heard from the former president frequently, he described the charges as a witch hunt. >> yeah, taking a page out of former president trump saying this is a witch hunt, this is political. he doesn't understand where the government got this evidence for 13 federal charges, federal counts of fraud, including 7 counts of wire fraud. he was asked a question about his employment status during covid. he's alleged to have taken money from the federal government that was meant to help folks that lost their jobs because of the pandemic. and he essentially said he doesn't know where the government is getting their information, but he intends to fight this. and he will prove his case in court by providing evidence. >> some of this, walk us through this, some of the information that the government has, we were aware of because it's been aired in the press. some of it has not been. >> some of it has not been.
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the answer to boris' question, and what the congressman is asking, the place that the government got all this information is from him. from the paperwork he filed himself. it is not a mystery. these documents right here detail what he filed in congress, what he file d to the department of labor in the state of new york saying that he was unemployed, when in fact, he was getting money from an investment job. so this is paperwork, this is a paperwork case. that's the prosh for the congressman. >> which by the way is paperwork disclosures that all members of congress have. he was not singled out to fill out these. >> no one told him to falsify this paperwork. so that's the biggest problem for him. this is not like a lot of indictments are based on sometimes secret sources that
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the fbi has, they may well have witnesses and they probably do, which we don't know yet in this dlt. but what they have shown here is basically on all the paperwork this congressman himself filed and which the government says is false. >> two of those 13 federal charges are for providing false information to those disclosures for the house of representatives. let's go over to paula reid, who has been following this closely. she's outside the courthouse. paula, is it surprising to you that congressman santos decided to speak is so openly to reporters? >> reporter: well, as i said earlier, nothing would really surprise me with congressman santos. he came right out here and addressed reporters. it appeared he wanted to adopt the trump playbook. he came out and one of the first things he said is these 13 charges he pleaded not guilty to are a witch hunt. he tried to divert attention to the biden family and suggest the
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speed with which this prosecution has been going is indicative of something nefa nefarious. but the speed with which they pursue d this case actually suggests that the public integrity unit must have a lot of confidence in their case. the crimes that are alleged in this indictment, these are paperwork crimes. now we'll tell you that one thing that former president trump would not do is go into a scrum of reporters where he's surrounded by people asking him detailed questions. he was pressed on the specific allegations in this indictment. for example, whether he applied for unemployment benefits while he was, indeed, employ president hep didn't have a good answer for that. he deflected and said this would be part of his defense. i was pretty surprised at the length of this. i sent him over to ask if the attorney thought this was a good idea. the attorney told mark that if the congressman wants to proceed this way, he will support it. but it's unclear how the comments, how many outside federal court could potentially
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impact this case. >> nugget he says is fair game here. as he's saying this before the cameras, one of the things that he was asked about was you lied so many times. it's verifiable. why do you expect people to believe you? he also dodged on that. he expects to be judged by the boric in the body. i want to bring in former prosecutor b. let's talk about the biggest charges, the most perilous ones for george santos, which are wire fraud. the seven counts of wire fraud and the potential sentence that they could bring if he's found guilty. >> we were talking about wire fraud, the maximum sentence he's facing is 20 years incarceration. that's the max and that's what each count can run consecutive. of course, let's be clear, when it co.s to federal sentences, unless there's a mandatory
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minimum, you can get probation or up until the 20 years. and he's facing a lot of time if he's convicted. i'm not sure why would you speak to the public right after being arraigned knowing anything you say can be used against you. he hasn't learned his lesson. >> in the news, we cover a lot of charges and a lot of different circumstances. not all charges lead to a conviction. that's just simply a fact. if you were defending george santos here based on what you know, you haven't seen all of the department of justice' evidence, but what would that offense be? >> the number one thing to do is tell him to shut up. shut your mouth. no interviews. anything you say can be used against you. shut up. but it seems that we already got a heads up in terms of his
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defense attorney seems to not be able to control him. i can see this attorney may asked to be removed from his case. he has to get his ducks in a row when it comes to the feds and federal prosecution, especially in paper cases like this. the investigation has been thorough. they have all the documents they need. when it comes to wire fraud and document cases, those are the easiest cases to approve. especially all they have to do when talking about collecting the unemployment benefits, were you getting money or not? were you working? did you have income. did you file for unemployment and got those funds. that's easy. it's yes or no. this man needs to shut up. >> it would seem pretty simple to prove in court if he's cashing these checks both from the federal government and ab employer, that's pretty black and white. >> but the wire fraudcounts, every time you asked for money, you requested money and the money went somewhere other than where you promise d the money ws
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going to go. that is a violation. so that is what is charged here. and so it's not just the false statements to congress. for his disclosures. every one of these is documented because we know he was soliciting money for one thing and putting it somewhere else. and that, according to the government s a crime. >> how about on the employment or the jobless benefits that he took? his answer, and i listen carefully to his courtside defense, let's call it that, during the pandemic it wasn't clear. either the regulations weren't very clear or his employment status wasn't clear. i assume given that prosecutors look for fraud, i assume it's fairly clear. >> it's crystal clear during the pandemic, this was a program that the trump administration and the republican congress, everybody was on board with because americans were suffering. new york was very hard hit by the pandemic. and during that period, one of
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the thichks that i remember doing interviews with people, they knew that because of the way this program was structured, people like george santos were taking advantage of it. that's the reason they made sure they appointed prosecutors to go over this and to find some of that fraud. that's what you're seeing here. >> you can cross reference these things pretty easily. i do want to go to manu raju. we knew he was seeking reelection and he coffin firmed he will confirmed he will seek reelection. eechb as members of his own party say get out of here. >> yeah, that's one thing that will get a lot of taechx, including in the speaker's office. i asked the speaker if he would support george santos. he did not say he would support george santos. a number of republicans either wanted to step aside, resign right now, or decide not to run again to get a more electable republican in the district that swichks democratic. in talking to a number of
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republicans today, they it rated that message telling me again and again that it's time for him to resign or they could vote to, plisten. >> he should have resigned a long time ago. he's an embarrassment to the party and to the congress. >> would it be better if he resigned? >> absolutely. it's a distraction. and it's a punch line for a lot of commentary regarding the r. party that we don't need. i feel like he should have done the right thing. >> he needs to resign. he's responsible to his constituents. not to me. >> reporter: the last comment coming from a congressman from georgia. he said he's not going to get into calling on him to resign. there are some republicans not calling for him to resign, including the speaker himself.
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kevin mccarthy said he would allow the legal process to play out, allow for any guilty conviction to occur. if that were to occur, that could change the calculation. but it will take some time to come to that. what will change the calculation going forward? he indicate d if the house ethis committee comes forward with any sort of findings suggest ing he suggested they should be expelled from the congress, perhaps that could change his approach. but for today and for now, he's indicating that he's not going to go as far as those other members, who told me it's time for him to resign saying he will allow the legal process to play out. there have been other members of congress who have been indicted. so we'll see how other members react to that comment just now from george santos that he will try to seek a second term. that can could cause some heartburn here. that district very complicated in mccarthy's quest to hold on to a very narrow majority.
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>> fortunes have changed so much here. george santos was part of this group of new york republican who is came in in the midterms when republicans did not so well other places. and this is really the group of republicans that kevin mccarthy yoes his very slim machlkty to. he just doesn't have much wiggle room when it comes to his conference. >> yeah, it's the new york republicans. joshlg santos' race, democrats did not really spend a ton of money and effort to try to knock him off because they had seen the polls. george santos is doing fairly well. they focused on other races where the democrats fell short. those seats were central to mccarthy getting back into majority. which is why a number of republicans themselves have called on santos to resign, including mike lawletter of new
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york. freshmen members in the same class, same republicans saying they don't want the liabilities of george santos on the ticket. which is why if he does decide to run, there will be an effort to try to feet him in the primary. we'll see if ithow it shakes ou. >> did mccarthy not say that charges would be the red line for him? he said some sort of standard. what was it? >> he said if he breaks the law. the question will be is it allegations and the charges in this indictment enough to rise to that level of breaking the law. mccarthy says no because he has a right to clear his name. he's not guilty until he's proven so in the court of law. and that's the standard they are
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abiding by. but the ethics committee finds he breaks the law. that could be enough for him. that's why the house committee separate probe could be determinative to determine whether or not the republicans will start to break ranks in mass and actually vote to expel him from congress. that's the next potential shoe to drop. that probe is still ongoing, unclear when it would wrap up and of the ultimate findings. there will be a lot of focus on the hill. that will put a lot of pressure on the speaker if it they find he allegedly broke the law. >> manu, please standby. important to point out in the context of george santos running for reelection that some of these charges stem from him allegedly using campaign funds for his campaign, allegedly, for personal expenses like a car payment, fancy stuff. i'm wondering, he joins quite a collection of lawmakers who have
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been indict ed while in office. at least two dozen since 1980. talk to us about the challenges of investigating a suting member of congress. >> exactly. there are a lot of challenges. the number one challenge is the political challenge. the media challenge, because it's going to be argued in the media this is political to try to get him out of office. but the facts and the evidence will speak for themselves. at the time there is a trial and by the release and also another challenge is you have the challenge of witnesses coming forward because they are scare ed of retaliation. that's one issue when you're dealing with people that are in office and prosecutoring them while they are in office. but here's the thing. this is a paper case. so your main witness in this case is going to be the documents. so you don't have that fear. >> thank you so much. evan perez, manu, mark at the
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>> more man power and new rules are come ing to the border as title 42 is on its way out. under the pandemic-era policy, the u.s. immediately expelted 3 million people arriving undocumented. the policy ends tomorrow night. migrants have been coming by the thousands in response. with another 150,000 approximately now waiting at the southern board ore to try to enter the united states. officials have tracked more than 10,000 border encounters since tuesday. the homeland security secretary announced today some 500 additional troops are arriving for warehouse and data collection support. a thousand more officers are going to be assigned to the asylum process and a new rule will go into effect that bars those who pass through the border from seeking asylum once they arrive at the border. here's dhs secretary. >> we are clear eyed at about the challenges we are likely to face in the days and weeks ahead, which have the potential
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to be very difficult. our plan will deliver results, but it will take time for those results to be fully realized. it is essential that with all take this into account. >> let's take you to the border now and nick virginia lechbs ya, live for us in brownsville, texas. you have been talking to families who trekked through the united states from central america. what are they sharing with you? >> many of them are unaware. they claim to be unaware of the ending of title 42 and those that did have an idea have the wrong idea. they thought it meant the boarder is goimpk to be closed entirely so they rushed to get here. that's what a gruch of migrants i spoke to yesterday told me. i want to set the scene to where we're at here. this is many migrants are brought here. these men are waiting for loved wins that they have bye-bye separated from hoping that they come off of this bus here.
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he said he's worried about the government there. he's worried about the regime, which is why he came here. i hope you find your wife. lots of pain staking stories here from migrants who from what they tell us are still being separated from their family members. the city is bracing for the end of title 42 and what they believe will be an influx of migrants. the big question is will that plan work? >> yeah, still an outstanding question, even as the dhs secretary point to congress and say that some action must be taken. nick valencia, thank you for bringing us that story. ahead, new details on what happened inside the white house during these high-stakes negotiations over the debt ceiling. someone who knows a thing or two about these talks is going to join us, next. stay with "cnn news central." t'. (fabric ripping) ooh. - wait, wh- wh- what was that? - huh? what, that?
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>> there was a very extreme wichk of the republican party and the house of representatives referred to themselves now. they refer to themselves as the maga republicans. they have taken control of the house. they have taken control. they had a speaker who has his job because he yielded to the maga element of the party. to the best of anymy knowledge, chert doing what no party has done. they are holding the economies hostage by threatening to default on a nation's debt. >> let's talk with someone who was struck tall in the negotiations last time the u.s. risked a default in 2011. former chief of staff for mitch mcconnell, he coleads the washington national tax office. you were instrumental. you may still be traumatized from it. we are right now about 20 days away from this cliff.
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how do you see where we are? >> so i actually feel pretty good about the way the meeting played out. i was concerned they were going to come out and actively attack each other. we had a good meeting. everyone restated their opening positions. that's not surprising. every meeting i attended, the first meeting, you get the public speeches given in private. that's apparently what happened. the good news is they said, we're going to meet again friday. and b, the staffs are going to start having a conversation. the white house is saying this is a separate conversation about the budget process for something related to september 30th when the government funding expires. republicans are saying this is a part of the travns action. in the real world, if they get an agreement on something around the budget, spending caps, rescinding of unspent covid money, that's a part of this transaction. we're talking, but we're not talking in a way you think we're talking. >> that's encouraging that you're read ing the tea leaves and seeing something more optimistic. i want to play something your
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boss had had to say about booid chb's position today. >> i hope president biden has begun to wake up. every rank and file democrat in the house and senate say the president's refusal to negotiate is untenable. the democracy waste anymore time. the white house has stop sleep walking toward default and reach a spending deal with the speaker. >> how do you see this coming to a final agreement? >> i think somewhere between now and maybe next friday when the president is anticipated to fly to japan, they need some principle so the staff can continue to work on. i think it would be difficult for the president to leave if we're still kind of barrelling towards a default. as important as the g7 meeting
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is, i think the optics of leaving the country in the middle of this get a little challenging. so they will have this meeting on friday and continue to work through the weekend. we're goichk to start getting some sense of, okay, a deal is looking like it's going to come together. the thing that will happen in the next couple weeks is the last communication from the treasury secretary said we can get to june 1. it might be a little bit more, but being conservative, it's juchb 1. that wiggle room is not helpful. so i think wee need some additional communication from treasury either firming up the deadline or saying it slipped. it's the second or fifth, so the negotiators know we have a hard deadline. this is what we're working up against. >> why don't you see this as a 2011 repeat? >> it maybe in the sense we get close to the deadline before we avoid default ing on the debt. in the end, it actually ended okay in that we avoided default. >> it cost $1.3 trillion to the economy. it wasn't completely without
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injury. >> there were some injury to it. we did get downgraded as a result. and that was not good. it's not a great outco., but the you have to be seen as fighting until the by theer echbd. so there's a reasonable chance they would feel like they can't announce it tomorrow because smchb will say you didn't fight hard enough. that's just a mac kro political pressure that the system exerts. not helpful, but it's very real. >> it's great to have you and your perspective. thank you. a murder twist in utah. a woman who wrote a children's book on grief is now facing murder charges for killing her husband. check. psych! really? dude, that's a foul! and now you're rdy to settle the score.
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so she wrote a book about helping children deal with grief after her husband's death. but now police say she actually killed her husband. police in utah arrested the author kouri richins on charges that she murdered her husband with a lethal dose of fentanyl. in a new search warrant says richins tried to change his life insurance policy before his death. cnn's nick watt has been looking into it. nick, this is like a twist straight out of the movies here. tell us what the search warrant said and what we could learn from that. >> well, jim, what we're look at here is the application for the search warrant made by detective after the medical examiner found that eric richins was full of
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fentanyl when he died. that warrant was eventually granted to search kouri richins' phone and on that phone, detective say there was contact between her and a known drug dealer. what we're learning here is kouri richins claims the night before her husband died he had one shot of alcohol, and a thc gummy. she apparently said that she was doing cpr on her husband before the emergency services arrived, but according to this detective, when the emergency people arrived, they said there was no evidence she had been doing cpr on eric. also, what emerges from this is that eric richins knew something was up. he kind of foretold what eventually happened, according to authorities. let me read from this. the detective says i was told by eric's family members that they suspected his wife had something to do with his death. they advised he warned them that if anything happened to him, she
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was to blame. and also a little bit further down, we hear that on vale valentine's day, a couple of days after kouri richins received a shipment of drugs from the dealer, on valentine's day of 20 22, his wife brought him a sandwich which he then broke into hives and couldn't breathe. he used his son's epipen and benadryl before passing out for several hours. >> goodness. nick watt, that is quite a story. >> on valentine's day on top of everything, apparently the book was published almost one year after the exact day that he passed away. likely coming to a special episode of "forensic files" on hln soon. >> if it is proven to be true, the hubris of writing a book about it, right? >> and faking grief, writing about how children can deal with grief and, again, if this turns out to be true, these
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