>> welcome back to "cnn this morning." democratic senator dianne feinstein casting her first vote after nearly three months of absence from capitol hill. watch. >> mrs. feinstein? >> aye. >> senator feinstein was pushed in a wheelchair on to the senate floor for a vote on an department of education nominee, the 89-year-old senator returned to the capitol yesterday after months long recovery from shingles. in a statement, she said she still experiencing some of the side effects. she'll be working a lighter schedule. >> her return is democrats back their full majority. they have called on her to retire or resign. they could in the push through some of president biden's key nominees. in her statement yesterday, senator feinstein said she, quote, looks forward to resuming her work from the committee. >> cnn this morning continues right now.

>> mr. trump's falsehoods kept coming fast and furious. did you ever show the classified documents to anyone? >> not really. i would have the right to. >> a jury of nine people found you libel of sexual abuse. the do you think that will deter women from voting for you? >> no, i don't think so. >> i would be salivating if i were the attorneys for e. jean carroll, if i were jack smith. >> kevin mccarthy says he'll not support george santos' re-election. >> after being indicted on 13 criminal counts. >> the reality is it's a witchunt. if they find that santos broke the law, would you call on him to resign? they said yes. >> the biden administration is hours away from the end of title 42. >> they'll go undetected if they

have to to get into the united states. >> we're making it very clear that our border is not open. crossing through regularly is against the law. >> the prime suspect in the disappearance, natalee holloway headed to the u.s. to face charges. >> vander sleuth has been serving time in prison for murdering the young woman he met in a casino in 2010. >> curry spots up in the corner. got it! we have a game six. the drive. the winner. with him. the knicks get it done at home. >> do whatever can you to win. >> good morning, everyone. i'm glad i've been such a loyal diehard knicks fan. >> it was an amazing turn about in the last 3 1/2 minutes. impressive. >> right? >> and the self-confidence and

not even -- wow. >> i had tow a ask who won. what a fair weather fan i am. >> maybe you don't want to be all the way. >> the timberwolves, twins, vikings. >> are they all doing well? >> yeah. great. >> good morning. >> to the news. >> donald trump facing critical questions from our own caitlyn collins as he runs for president again despite multiple criminal investigations and felony charges. trump refused to admit he lost 20 the 2020 election, he bad mouthed e. jean carroll after a jury he defamed her and sexually abused her, he took credit for overturning roe versus wade and then repeatedly declined to say if he would sign a federal abortion ban. trump wouldn't call russian president vladimir putin a war criminal. cnn's chief national affairs

kp kpant i correspondent is here to break down the highlights. what was your view of things last night? >> good morning phil and poppy. coming as no surprise to anyone who has been watching him, for donald trump, the second act is the same as the first. airing old grievances and attempting to rewrite history, the former president was acting as though he had already won the republican nomination. they tried to broaden appeal to voters. he was pressed for the first time on a long trail of controversy that define the 2024 campaign. >> thank you. >> former donald trump picked up where he left off. lying about the 2020 election. >> that was a rigged election. it's a shame that we had to go through it. >> trump made clear the 2024 presidential bid would follow the script of the two previous campaigns, presenting himself as a defiant messenger unwilling to

move on. >> will you suspend polarizing talk during your run? >> yeah, unless i see election fraud. >> he falsely said vice president mike pence could have acted to overturn election results as the vote was certified on january 6th. he said he did not owe pennsylvania an apology for failing to call off supporters. he should have put the votes back to the state legislatures. i think we would have had different outcome. >> you would pardon the january 6 rioters who were convicted of federal offenses? >> i'm inclined to pardon many of them. they got out of control. >> the audience of republican voters say the college applaud ford -- applauded for much of the night, even as trump he

belittled and defamed e. jean carroll, a day of after a new york jury found him libel of sexually abusing and defaming her. >> i have no idea who she, is she's a whack job. >> pressed whether it would deter women from voting for him. he said this. >>, no i don't think so. >> yet, some republicans believe otherwise. like rnew hampshire governor wh is considering a presidential bid of his own. >> if you're a suburban mom, aulall the voters they're trying to bring back to the mix, it's a same old regurnlgtation. >> seven months, trump is leading the field. even as he faces multiple legal chances over interfering in the 2020 election and more. >> once again, he struck a defensive tone about that now famous call to the georgia secretary of state. searching for votes to put him over the top against joe biden. >> that election was rigged.

if this goes bad yshgs did him and his lawyers hang up? how dare you say that? >> they were concerned enough that they recorded the call. >> he brushed aside questions of another probe involving classified documents taken to mar-a-lago. >> when it comes to your documents, did you ever show the classified documents to anyone? >> not really. >> i -- >> what do you sneen. >> not that i can think of. let me tell you. i have the absolute right to do whatever i want with them. i have the right. trump took personal credit for the supreme court decision overturning roe versus wade. citing his three appointments to the high court. >> i was honored to do it. he repeatedly dodged questions about whether he would sign a federal abortion ban. >> i'm looking for a solution that is complex for the country. >> on foreign policy, he once again showed affinity for russian president putin.

declining to call for his punishment for leading the invasion of ukraine. >> it is a lot tougher to make a deal. >> he also said who he wants to prevail in the war, despite the u.s. and allies investing billions to help ukraine defeat russia. >> do you want ukraine to win this war? >> i don't think in terms of winning and losing. i think in terms of getting it settled so we stop killing all these people. >> shortly after this town hall, president biden tweeted, do you want four more years of that? of course, many months until we know if there will be a rematch. trump still faces a republican primary. on that front, he barely mentioned gop rival s at all. but with so much to digest, here's one more. when caitlyn asked trum fp he would accept the results of the 2024 election, he declined to say he would. poppy and phil?

>> thank you for your reporting. >> talk about all of this. what happened last night. cnn political analyst at the "new york times" is at the table. also cnn political commentator dave urban. a former trump campaign adviser and van jones, special adviser to president obama. i know no one got much sleep. we didn't put you in the 6:00 a.m. so that means we love you. >> it is true. >> maggie, you and caitlyn are journalists that know president trump like the back of your hand, more than anyone else. what did last night tell you about the year and a half ahead for the country? >> it's going to be ugly if trump is the nominee. i think we could have anticipated that. i think that two things can be true at once. i think that caitlyn got a lot of news from him. he made a bunch of statements that certainly his party and members of his party are not going to want to have to comment

on. you know, his joking about the sexual assault -- sexual abuse libel verdict in the civil case against him earlier. his abortion comment actually probably is not -- that's not the one that i think republicans are going to be upset about. him, you know, doubling down on supporting january 6 rioters. there were a lot saying he refusing to say who should win the war in ukraine. that is striking. i think all of that is interesting. i think in ermzterms of the political context, he walked himself and caitlyn was right there with him, she knows the cases really well, he walked himself into some trouble with the special counsel investigation into why he had all the documents at mar-a-lago. i thought that was really important. i also think two things can be true at once. it's true his team was really happy. they were happy with the reaction. they were happy with the crowd. they liked how aggressive he was. the biden people also liked how aggressive he was. they think it helps him in a general election. there is a lot of time to go between now and then.

all it tells you is donald trump has one seat. this is the same donald trump we've seen. >> i can think of the football coach press conference when they said, he is who we thought he was. if you take a step back, you're talking to democrats, whatever the views on social media, there was a lot of democrats saying this is gold for us, right? there are weeks worth of damning content. quite an official hour. can you -- can both be true snt former president's advisors are thrilled. primary voters are thrilled f you're a the kra, you're watching that and saying we have 50 attack ads based on one hour. >> yeah. i mean, i think if you're a democrat watching that, we've been criticizing and complaining about biden? this is a horror show that dwoent want to rerun of. i think a lot of democrats were appalled by his behavior.

them throwing ukraine under the bus. that was toward the people that have been on their side of the legal cases. you know, i think that we've got to be careful here now. trump has a particular trick he uses with nostalgia. the whole make america great again. there was an rear when it was wonderful, 1950s and i'm going to bring you back. he's now using nostalgia about the trump administration just a few years ago. he's trying to own the past and a future he can bring you to. he stuck with the president. and no place to go. don't get thrown off by the i motions here. you have a rhetorical strategy. take that narrative away from

him. so, you begin to see how you can fight this guy. i think this guy is unstoppable for the nomination. >> do you believe this is gold for democrats for president biden in general? >> i think it depends on where you're coming from. trump being trump, that's what you saw. i think it is a missed opportunity for the president in terms of what he is saying is correct. he said this all time. don't judge me against the almighty. judge me against the alternative. voters will look at trump and the alternative. you look at the numbers right now. the current president's numbers suck. they're terrible. so, what explains trump's strength? biden's weakness. right? i think voters are going to make that comparison. he said, look, we're never going

to agree on 2020 election or january 6. let's talk about something we need to agree on. we need a stronger border. we need fentanyl. everyone is watching the border crisis happening in real time. they're thinking we need to fix this. this isn't working correctly, right? trump really missed an opportunity to really address those type of things. inflation. silicon valley bank, first republic, all these things cratered because of inflation policies. i get it. but he could have framed those issues. >> that's what it was. he was so interested in defending himself and talking about himself. >> he couldn't put pain in it a pin in it. >> no way is that ever going to happen. this is my hope for him.

>>. >> he's soeon center stage and they're all asking him the questions. >> the question is what is the end game here for him relitigating all this stuff? he says he just is who he is. >> i think that is the end game. i think advisors know that when he may try to prep him or try to control him or manage him, he tends to go more in the opposite direction. >> right. i mean, some of the advisors were actually really happy with the january 6 answers. i couldn't quite get a clear sense. why? >> that is the question. on the pardoning issue in particular it is because he didn't commit to, yes, they're all part of it. >> can we play that real quick? >> will you pardon the january 6th rioters who were convicted of federal offenses? >> i am inclined to pardon many of them. i can't say for every single

one. a couple of them probably they got out of control. >> i thought that was cool. he caveated. >> yes. it was better than the alternative which is always tends to get looked at. to the point that you were making before though, again, this was a forum where caitlyn got a lot of news made. a lot. a lot of things we have not heard him talk about, a lot of issues that he does not push because when people are traveling aboard the plane or going to a rally, it's very different. how it plays for the team and getting cheers very different than what it might be. >> i think the point that she made. she was like a matador against the biggest bull in american history. she put a lot of knives in that are going to pay off in terms of getting in his face stuff that he didn't say on the record before. i think that was very important. >> yeah. to maggie's point, republicans got what they needed. trump got what he needed. he's tough. people like the base.

they like to see that.h i kind of joke that you would never see joe biden wading into a fox news debate. >> i don't think that's fair comparison. >> no. cnn is not -- my point is -- >> let's not make it. >> unfriendly. >> that was pretty friendly. >> i think you can't get a more objective journalist and interviewer than caitlyn collins. >> i'm not saying that. i completely agree. caitlyn did a great job. i'm saying that biden is not going to take -- he's not going to stand up to do that. i would love to see him take questions. >> but with who? shawn hannity? >> i'd love to see him take questions from an audience, unscripted, no notes. tougher to deal with. we'll see if he does it. i think the audience, by the way, they asked some softball questions. there were no really pressing hard questions that they asked. >> final thought? >> i think that can you look at

this from a political point of view and we should. from the point of view from the united states of a country, the idea that you got somebody who just basically put you on notice. you vote for me, i'm going to help putin. to me, that -- the bigger take away is all the other stuff. what really matters in the world stage is what is going on in ukraine. the fact he wouldn't say i want ukraine to wiven. i want to make sure zelenskyy is president again. a brutal dictator killing civilians and stealing children, we should not let that go. >> think about what kevin mccarthy said a few weeks ago in israel. making that so clear. >> i think that's exactly right. i think that there was a lot of insight we got into where trump is. we don't think of him the way he used to. he's not on twitter. people don't follow truth social. they just don't. what they did when he was on twitter. he does not do a ton of

mainstream interviews. there's a reason. there are fewer opportunities for him. he is the front-runner for the republican nomination by a very wide mile. i don't see how you don't try to talk with him. i think that he is right that comparison of you're going to hear republicans say trump winning to, you know, an environment that trump argued isn't, you know, favorable to him. and that he went back and forth. i think that you're going to see them make that kind of comparison against biden over and over. that is going to basically be the frame they want this election to be which is weak versus strong. i'm not saying that's the case. but that's what they're going to push. >> thank you. >> great. >> maggie agrees with me. >> i know. >> we can all go home now. >> this is the solution at this table right here. great job, everyone. thanks, guys. appreciate it. >> the crowd at last night's town hall didn't hold back. cnn spoke to several of the audience members and got reaction and what they heard

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former president trump had a town hall in new hampshire last night. was he able to sway undecided voters or did he convince fellow republic republicans they should give him another four years in the white house. >> we talked to eight people inside the town hall. six of them voted for donald trump. one hasn't voted the last two presidential elections but she is leaning republican in 2024. another one of the people, the 18-year-old and will be voting in the first election in 2024 and is leaning republican. a consensus, trump should focus on 2024 and not 2020.

>> personally, i'm getting tired of hearing about it. very much more so interested in the problems that we face now. i don't think anybody wants to hear about 2020 at this point. everybody wants to hear about 2024. the future and what comes after that. >> i like him to move on. i would like him to stop talking about it. >> he continues to mock this woman. >> he also says that that was rigged. how does it make you feel that he is still making fun of this woman? >> it's uncomfortable. even i just don't know -- what to think anymore. >> i didn't really care. >> why didn't you care? >> i don't know enough about the case, women can be victims of abuse. women can also make up stories. i don't know. all of these situations where people coming out 20, 30 years

later. >> the final question, any of you ready to say you'll vote for him? you r one person. thank you all for joining us. all these people told us they did not feel better about trump after the town hall. they also didn't feel worse. what they heard, they expected to hear. >> gary tuckman, thank you for that. joining us now is republican congressman brian mass from florida. chair of the veterans coalition for trump campaigns and also a member of the house foreign affairs committee. thank you so much for joining us. i'm sure you watched last night. >> i think voters that gary is talking to had an interesting perspective of a lot of republicans and colleagues. just want to move forward, not back. move forward, not back. he must look back. it is something he has to do. the do you wish he would look forward instead of looking back? >> i think the president wants to look forward. he's continually asked to look back. that's what i heard other people talk about this as well in the recap of the debate. he was asked for 30 minutes

about the past, about the past, about the past. there is a two-way street. the. >> the reason why he is asked about the past is he attempted to drive the overturning of the u.s. election. the constitution and to some degree because of a rally or in part due to a rally. his supporters mshgs of which are prosecute rz, stormed the u.s. capitol that you were in. so do you understand why there is some need for a look back? he's the likely republican nominee at this point. >> you're asking a question, does he need to look back or look forward? you can't have both ways. you're talking about a situation where the full weight and force of the federal government was exercised to subvert an election. whether it is social media companies, twitter and others, they can go out there and get people that were former military generals to go out there and sign letters to say, oh, this is russian disinformation. the list goes on and on. those are important things i

don't think the president wants to talk about. she asked him for 30 minutes. he won't run away from it. that's why he's many i choice for president. he takes the bull by the horns. he doesn't back down from a debate that he knows is not going to be the most friendly environment. he goes in there saying, yeah, i'll answer your questions. i'm going to give you the authentic me. this is what i think. this is how i feel. that is different. that's why americans love him, for that strength. >> i understand. that's why his base is very fond of him. >> not just base, but enemies fear him. you have somebody that does not back down from anyone or anything or any situation. that's the guy. >> let's get to that. that's the guy i want dealing with china. that's the guy i want dealing with ukraine. >> do you consider u.s. a adversary? >> absolutely. >> you are a very, very up front

supporter of ukraine. you criticized him for not going far enough in terms of the weapons capability. willing to deliver and considering a no fly zone. the president last night said this. do you want ukraine to win? >> can you say if you want ukraine or russia to win this war? >> i want everybody to stop dying. they're dying. russians and ukrainians, i want them to stop dying. i'll have that done in 24 hours. i'll have it done. you need the power of the presidency to to do it. >> you know what i'll say? i'll say this. i want europe to put up more money. >> if you believe that that's -- what is the strength there? >> the strength is this. you have a president that is not -- former president. they won't make up policy in a town hall and then have the people come out the next week.

make foreign policy statements on 60-minute interviews that we're going to put u.s. troops on the ground in taiwan. situations like that. he's smart enough to go out there and say, listen, i want people to stop dying. we're in a dangerous situation right now. nobody can say that there is 0% chance of nuclear war. you have a president in place that is not committed to making sure that ukraine wins. >> you need to make sure that ukraine doesn't lose. he would hedge like you just heard from the former president, would you have been okay with that? that is smart? they need to fill out the policy later. >> i would slam joe biden. >> then why are you slamming the former president? >> they're two different people. donald trump is strong. he is the kind of guy that would go out there and launch 80 cruise missiles in syria and

then talk to ping and say, listen if, you go into taiwan, that's exactly what is going to happen. that is a level of strength. he does something between him and the president. joe biden does that and has that ability to do peace through strength. he turned to the taliban and said i'm going to rely on you to secure our checkpoint and leave americans behind. because of what he did on the u.s. southern border, because of what he did -- >> we don't have a lot to go. he doesn't have ability to exercise. >> one note. i do want to close with this. obviously, he ordered the strikes serious for several times. i understand the context of what you're putting out there. the president is asked last night, i know you don't want to have the look back conversation. but this specifically is tied to a statement you made at the time. whether or not those who attack

the capitol should be pardoned. he said this. take a listen. >> will you pardon the january 6th rioter who's were convicted of federal offenses? >> i am am inclined to pardon many of them. a couple of them, maybe they got out of control. >> a few days after the attack, you said there are not enough angry words to condemn the violent attack on the capitol and in turn our democracy on january 6. the moment the barricades were torn down, police officers were assaulted on our capitol and laid siege to. assembly became an unholy unamerican, wholly illegal. every perpetrator must be held accountable and should turn themselves in. what do you think of what the president said about pardoning those people that you said should be held accountsable? >> we have video of what took place instead of looking at something in the real time and not understanding the full

situation. people that tore down barricades or attacked, yes, those are probably people that president is talking about. >> that is something that loet him in -- is. >> if somebody had the gate open to them and allowed to not told, hey, listen, you can't do this. that is a different situation. that is prowwho the president i talking about. >> you said the president didn't say. the sprez also aligned -- >> he didn't have a chance to say it. he didn't have a chance to say it. but that is what i -- >> i don't think the president was willing to side with manufactur many of the people that tacked the capitol that day as something he hasn't had an opportunity to elaborate on. i think he had plenty. >> some people followed into open doors. the fact that there were not barricades. you can't deny that fact. so, sh soomebody is walking and following a crowd and not being

told to stop -- >> there have been hundreds of individuals charged. >> two very different situations. >> can i just say, respectfully, sir, this is just a bizarre construct when you were in the capitol. you saw what happened that day. hundreds of people have been charged. we just had seditious conspiracy charges proven guilty just last week. they're trying to hedge and parse on this i don't really understand. you and i were both there that day. what is the value of the story? >> i was in the capitol. >> i know. >> i was with my two oldest sons in my office. no staff -- i think i had one staff member because the capitol police said, please everybody keep your staff at home. don't bring anybody in there. i had my pistol in my car. so with my family in my office, having just left the capitol floor, my pistol in my vehicle, one of my pistols in my vehicle, i sat there and should i go down and get my hpistol in the car with my family next to me. i decided no. i wasn't worried about it in

that instance. that's what's taking place in that instance for me. i wasn't worried about what i was seeing based upon what i got played out before my eyes. >> i understand that. your personal story. i certainly glad you and your family were safe. sir, i know you have a lot going on today. you have an immigration vote later today. i know you're in the middle of the debt ceiling stuff. i appreciate you taking the time. >> we're going to work to secure the border like joe biden is not doing doing. >> we'll have to get into that later. i appreciate your time. >> all the best. >> that was really important interview. and speaking of immigration and that vote today, also a huge development today as the biden administration rolls out a new program for migrant families released in the united states as title 42 expires at midnight tonight. we're going to be joined by the former homeland security about what needs to be done. he joins us live in studio next. . this is the first everer, all electric, rz.

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very difficult. >> in just hours, 11:59 eastern time tonight, title 42 will expire. that is the pandemic era policy that has been used nearly three million times to expel migrants from the united states. hundreds of u.s. troops are set to begin a new mission along the southern border. officials and migrants brace for the unknown. cities across the country also bracing. last night in anticipation of a migrant surge, in new york city, eric adams signed an executive order suspending portions of the city's long standing guarantee of shelter to anyone that needs it. that say big deal. a spokesman said that the city has, quote, reached our limit. let's talk about what is ahead for this country, cities like new york, border cities with the former homeland security jay johnson. he was under president obama. great to have you. >> good morning. >> we knew this authority, right, which was about having a health crisis, a pandemic authority, would expire at some point.

and now it's happening. what happens tomorrow? >> the administration is emphasizing an enforcement message. title 42 is going away at midnight tonight. that is a public health authority. it is not an authority of dhs. and secretary keeps talking about what authorities dhs has under title 8 to deport people, remove them, expel them, send them back to their home countries. and i think in this current environment it's important to emphasize the enforcement message. one thing i learned when i was in office managing this problem is illegal immigration is a very information sensitive phenomenon. it reacts sharply and quickly to perceived changes in our enforcement policy on the southern border. and, so, it's important to continually send a message that if you come here the wrong way, we'll send you back. and that's what -- that's what

they're doing now. >> do you think, though, because the obama administration criticized for its deportation by a lot of democrats, do you think that the biden administration has been strong enough throughout on sending that message clearly? or have they not and that's why we see the numbers we see now? >> first of all, no matter what do you in this space, somebody's going to be very unhappy. somebody's going to be very upset and screaming loudly from the right or the left or both. i would like to see -- i would have liked to have seen throughout the last 2 1/2 years, a consistent message that is consistent with our values. as americans. we treat migrants fairly humanely. there is a right way and a wrong way to come here. and if you come here the wrong way, we'll send you back. when i was in office, i used to go to central america and hold

press conferences. highlighting and showing airports that i send back showing people being deported back to their home country. i bring the press with me, the local press to see so people can see where i'm sending people back. >> i remember that: >> the administration has setting up regional processing centers in colombia and guatemala. i think that is an excellent job. we need to do a lot more of that. to get people into alternative legal safe path to flee a very, very dangerous situation. so that is the message that this they need to continually highlight. >> you mention the processing centers having covered the last several moves preparations for this, you prepared last couple years, you have the diplomatic effort. you have the processing speed, the element that's go into how fast can you process. one thing -- i think i always

wonder is why is now different if it is at all in terms of the scale of the flows? and in part, because the countries of origin have seemed to have shifted over the course of the last six to eight months in particular. >> is now different? what is making this happen beyond the political back and forth. i don't think that helps anything at this point in time. >> good question. >> the problem is much bigger now than it was seven, eight yaerz ago. we have a hemispheric migration process. the countries contributing to this flow were principally mexico, el salvador, and now it is venezuela, haiti, nicaragua, cuba. and the environment in those countries ister ib. we don't have diplomatic relations. >> in addition, the smugglers

now have a much bigger operation. they have the ability to move much larger numbers of people. so, we're seeing the numbers we're seeing because of these circumstances. ultimate lishgs to address this problem, you have to address the problem at the source. people will always make the basic choice to flee a burning building or send their families out of a burning building no matter how much of a defense we throw up on our southern border, no matter what our laws look like, people will make the basic choice to flee a burning building. so, we have an interest in seeing the poverty, violence, corruption in some of these countries irrad indicated. there is a way to do that -- eradicated. we did that in the obama administration with the drop in the bucket, $750 million. it was suspended during the donald trump administration. i know president biden believes in. this we talked about it when hes with vice president and i was

secretary. >> have you talked to the secretary? >> once in a while, yes. >> recently? >> recently? not recently. >> what would you do -- >> the last time he and i had a conversation was at my portrait unveiling in january. >> what would you do if you were him right now? >> well, i'm not him. i'm not in the job. and i am very happy i'm not in the job. it's very different circumstances. the problem is i said it is much, much bigger. so, he's juggling a lot right now. >> tough job. i don't know why anybody would want to be dhs secretary. tough job. it is a massive, massive job. >> much easier to come on cnn and talk about the job than be in the job. >> absolutely. interesting point there. you made earlier, title 8 has a fairly dramatic infeceffect ove time. they're trying to get that message out. >> can you explain to people

what title 8 is? >> title 8 is the section of the law that lays out the authorities to the department of homeland of security has. title 42 is public health. title 42 could keep coming back. >> yeah. >> title 8 is an immediate removal and then criminal prosecution. >> title 8 is an on going authority. >> it is always there. >> the provision of title 42 invoked is an emergency authority. it is always meant to be temporary. >> okay. thank you so much. >> thank you, sir. thank you to your service to this country. prime suspect in the 2005 disappe disappearance alabama teenager natalee holloway is about to be extradited to the united states. details on why ahead.

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this morning a prime suspect in the 2050 disappearance of american student natalee holloway is set to be extradited

to the u.s. were peru. joran van der sloot is facing extortion and wire fraud charges stemming from the case. he was one of the last people to see the 18-year-old holloway alive in aruba leaving a nightclub with van der sloot and two other men. no one was charged and her body has never been found. jean casarez joins me now. you have covered this case for years much the ins and outs and everything in wbetween. why is peru sending him back now? >> when i was in prinperu, they after he served a number of years for murder there they would extradite him on these u.s. federal charges. it is extortion and wire fraud. in 2010, natalee holloway had been missing five years and her family still wanted to know where she was. they were constantly trying to find out the truth and they were offering a $250,000 reward. joran van der sloot heard about

that in aruba. he contacted an associate with the family and said, look, i will pay -- i will tell you exactly what happened to natalee, where she is, i will take you where her body is, but i want the $250,000 in cash. so the family began to work with the fbi and they arranged that an associate cooperating witness as it is referred to in the complaint would go to aruba. he did. $25,000 cash down payment was put in the bank account of joran van der sloot. joran van der sloot told this associate of the family, i was with natalee, i was the last one, and we got into an argument. she didn't want me to leave. i pushed her to the ground. her head hit a rock and she died. i hid her body. i went to my father and my father buried it. i will take you in a car where she is. they went in the car. there was a house. he said she is within the foundation. so that was it. he had $25,000 cash.

he emailed the family saying, i lied to you. the whole story is a lie. but at that point he had the money and that's the basis of these charges. he then, and this is very sad, it is believed he took that $25,000 cash, flew to lima, peru, decided to go to a casino and gamble. he met a woman there, stephanie flores, went to her apartment, within hours she was dead. i was there. i covered all the legal proceedings in peru and he was ultimately convicted of her murder. >> coming back to the u.s. wow. i mean, great reporting. >> this case here, they want answers. they want to know the truth. this may be extortion, wire fraud, but they want to find out what happened to natalee and where she is. >> rightfully so. thanks so much. appreciate it. former president trump refusing to apologize to vice

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it's the top of the hour. we are so glad you are with us this morning. donald trump facing critical questions from our friend and colleague kaitlan collins during last night's cnn town hall. does he support a federal abortion ban? does he want ukraine to win against russia? we will bleak down the key moments and get reaction from the biden campaign and former trump officials. and title 42, the controversial immigration policy is about to expire hours from now. u.s. troops and federal agents have surged to the southern border as crowds of migrants gather on the other side. plus, a look at the criminal

case against congressman george santos. he has been charged with 13 felonies. a growing number of fellow republicans are calling on him to resign after he pleaded not guilty to federal charges. it's all ahead this hour of "cnn this morning" starts right now. >> and here is where we begin in hour. kaitlan collins challenging, fact-checking in real time former president donald trump on everything from abortion to ukraine as he runs again for president under the cloud of criminal investigations and felony charges. here is some of those key exchanges. >> it was not a rigged election, it was not a stolen election. you and your supporters lost more than 60 court cases on the election. it's been nearly two and a half years. can you publicly acknowledge that you lost the 2020 election? >> let me just go on. if you look at through the vote,