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fergtsorget bracing for a s it's already here. we're live on the border with thousands of migrants where they are gathering, desperate to cross into the u.s. three years later, the covid public health emergency officially ends today. what this means for testing, treatments, and crucially, are we better prepared for the next one? plus, did former president trump just open himself up to even more legal jeopardy? why his comments at a cnn town hall are raising new questions. we're following these major
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developing stories and many more all coming in right here to cnn news central. ♪ ♪ we start at the border where the dhs secretary just said, it is about to get a whole lot worse. they're just hours now until the end of title 42. that is the public health rule that the u.s. used nearly 3 million times to immediately expel undocumented people to help control covid. ahead of this policy change, resources at the border communities have been strained, trying to respond to the arrival of thousands of migrants. a source says the u.s. government estimates at least another 150,000 people are waiting to cross. a short time ago, the homeland security secretary explained once title 42 ends at 11:59 p.m. eastern, u.s. reverts back to using title 8, which means people risk years of being barred from the u.s.
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an individual who is removed under title 8 is subject to at least a five-year ban on reentry into the united states, and can face criminal prosecution if they attempt to cross again. smugglers have been long, hard at work, spreadi ing false information that the border will be open. they are lying. >> cnn's nick valencia has been following the story in the border town of brownsville, texas. nick, are people getting this message that government officials and the secretary are trying to get through? >> reporter: that is an awesome question, because i don't think that they are. they're not tuned into the news. they're not listening to officials. they're not asking those questions about what's going on. they're just really catching their breath after making a two-month long journey to get here. and mostly, most of those folks that i'm speaking to are focused on reuniting with their family
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members. they have not seen their family in some cases for days. they just recently arrived here. they're mostly venezuelaen nationals, but china, haiti, other central american countries. it's been very active. these are the immigration buss that are driven by border patrol agents after individuals are detained in the open fields. they're released in some cases on humanitarian patrol. so that's what we're seein thes individuals are lined up waiting for news about their loved ones. i want to give you a little tour around what we're seeing. the crowds have thinned out. we did see dozens sleeping on the streets. the senters here have been at capacity for weeks. there's no line outside right now, but it comes in fits and spurts. there's long lines throughout the afternoon. people trying to get basic goods, supplies, shoes in some cases. i saw a man walking around saying he made the journey without shoes, if you can believe that.
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the city of brownsville is making sure that the journalists are being respectful of interviewing the migrants. we heard of individuals trying to climb the fence to get into these center where is they are being processed to interview migrants, who just want a better future. i interviewed this young man a little while ago. he said his journey was about 20 days. he's waiting for news about his wife. he doesn't want to go on camera, because he's scared about the violence he fled from venezuela, the economic and humanitarian crisis. and brownsville said they're working hard hand in hand to make sure that these migrants get on to their next destination. we have been reporting they're working in cooperation with buses and airlines to send migrants to cities like chicago, brooklyn, miami, denver, dallas, houston. all of these migrants have a plan to meet up with loved ones, family members, and the city of brownsville says this for them is business as usual. that they have been on the frontlines of the immigration
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issue for decades, and title 42 may bring an influx of migrants. we'll see if that plan works. >> we see some little ones behind you who made this journey. nick, thank you for that report. big picture. even the homeland security secretary has called the current system "broken." so what exactly does it look like? what are the facts? the numbers are staggering. and many challenges we should note have persisted for years through multiple administrations. according to data, there is a backlog now of more than 2 million pending asylum cases. and there are only 600 immigration judges to hear those 2 million cases. so the wait time to get a case heard and processed averages more than four years. the long wait could be one factor in the number of asylum seekers who then never show up for their court appearance, according to the justice department, in the first quart e of last year, that number was
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18%, so just under one in five who do not show up for court appearances. beyond that backlog, there are other factors impacting a person's ability to properly apply for asylum. including trauma from the long journey. language barriers, of course. as well as the complexity of the legal system and what's required. we should know the biden trags is making changes to the rules to reduce the number of applicants who enter the country. it's raised the threshold for approval of petitions, made it harder and reupped the trump administration's remain in mexico plan, which sends applicants back to mexico as they wait, including countries other than mexico. so a lot of these questions have endured for years and have been difficult to change. >> indeed they have. as we heard from the dhs secretary, he's pointing the finger at congress saying something has to be done. now to another major story. the u.s. is potentially three
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weeks away from a default. the white house and congressional leaders can avert that disaster, but so far the two sides have a long way to go before striking a deal to raise the debt ceiling. and thattalemate has led the treasury secretary to ramp up her warnings about the consequences of a default. listen. >> a default on u.s. obligations would produce an economic and financial catastrophe. it would spark a global down turn that would set us back much further. it would also risk undermining u.s. global economic leadership, and raise questions about our ability to defend our national security interests. >> cnn's matt egan is here to break it down for us. matt, this has never happened before, a default. so it's fair to say nobody knows exactly what's going to happen. but even when the united states has come close, it has had really bad consequences for the u.s. economy and the u.s. credit rating.
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>> that's right, boris. it is easy to see why this would be a nightmare. and not just an american nightmare, really a global one. i think when you talk about a default, it's really important to remember that u.s. debt has long been considered among the safest assets on the planet. i mean, treasuries are a corner stone of the global financial system. so if you take that away, things would get real messy real fast. if there is a protracted default, the white house estimates that the unemployment rate in the united states would spike by 5 percentage points, going from this half century low today of 3.4% to well above 8%. that translates to a loss of millions of jobs. and the financial ripple effects would really go around the world, because america is the biggest player on the world stage. the u.s. has the biggest stock market in the world, the biggest bond market, and yes, still has the biggest economy, as well. if you rank the biggest
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economies in the world, the u.s. has a bigger economy in terms of gdp than the number two and number three countries combined. so the stakes here are clearly massive. and i talked to the head of the consumer financial protection bureau today, and he told me that he is concerned here about the impact on families. he talked about how borrowing costs would likely spike. that means higher mortgage rates, car loans. he said there's this risk of job loss that we have been talking about. he said a lot of things that we assume are part of our financial fabric would get ripped away. every family should be concerned, and boris, look, the clock is ticking here. the june 1st deadline is approaching, and the longer it takes to get a deal here, the greater the risk to the economy. >> yeah, and it's important to point out this is a disagreement over money that's already been spent. it would be as if a household decided we're not going to pay the light mill.
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matt egan, thank you for breaking that down for us. more time and more weapons. ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy says his forces are ready to start their long-anticipated counteroffensive in the east and south. but they are waiting for more military supplies from the west. here's what he said. >> translator: yes, we're still expecting some things. they will reinforce our counteroffensive. and most importantly, they will protect our people. we're expecting armored vehicles. they arrive in batches. we can advance with what we have got, and i think we can be successful. but we're going the lose a lot of people. i think that is unacceptable. we need to wait. we need a bit more time. >> the uk confirmed today that it has delivered these to ukraine. you can see them there on that airplane. these are long-range storm shadow cruise missiles. sam kylie joins us now from
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kyiv. you how significant are these missiles going to be in this counteroffensive? >> reporter: i think they're absolutely vital for the ukrainians. great scoop from our own jim sciutto there to break the news that the uk is going to be supplying state of the art cruise missiles, capable but unlikely to be used for striking inside russian territory, now, the importance for the ukrainians is that these can be used to reach deep into ukrainian territory that is held by russia and go after the logistics changes, so it's important in supporting the frontline efforts. if they can combine that with a ground attack coming from infantry and armor and artillery, then i think the ukrainians definitely would see themselves as having a fighting chance of driving the russians out of their territory. and it's fear of that, according to the country's head of the atomic energy authority here,
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that the man in charge of, but not in possession of, zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant station today told me that he believes the russian officials there are practicing their leaving processes. this is what he said. >> they are probably right now trying to be prepared for a quick getting out, and also personnel -- [ indiscernible ] >> reporter: victory is far from guaranteed in this offensive. the russians have bug in with plenty of time to prepare for it. when this begins, even with storm shadow and other nato technology, this will be a bloody and bitter fight. >> sam kylie for us in ukraine.
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thank you for that report. jim? coming up, the end of an era. the covid public health emergency is officially over today. are we, though, any better prepared for the next pandemic? plus, he's already facing a slew of investigations and possible charges. why donald trump may have a new legal headache after his comments at last night's cnn town hall. later, an update on the heroic police officer shot in the head trying to stop the louisville bank shooter. we're following these stories and more at "cnn news central."
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emergency declarations are officially coming to an end. what that really means is that some government programs are going to go away. you'll have to pay for covid tests and treatments with insurance or out of pocket. though vaccines will remain free for most people. we want to discuss now with a public health physician. dr. brunell, thank you for being with us. walk us through the real world im implications of the end of this public health emergency. >> good afternoon, boris. so this really is a mixed bag. it is good that we are finally at a point in the pandemic where we're not at peak crisis mode. that should be celebrated. but where i do have cause for concern is that data reporting or compulsory requirements around recording data specific to covid will change. we will no longer have a daily tracker that allows us to know what the caseload is. that information will be given on a monthly basis.
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testing will not be mandated by insurance to be free for persons under certain governmental insurance programs or even private insurance programs. i'm really concerned for those who are uninsured. while government supplies last, we will have access to free prevention, so vaccine, treatment, and texting. but when those supplies are exhausted, those who are uninsured will unfortunately have to spend more. so good we're out of crisis mode, but not good for everyone. >> certainly cause for concern that you outlined there, especially among the susceptible populations. what would you say to folks with concerns about covid or those that are more at risk because they're older or immunocompromised? >> don't let your guard down. there is never a time that we should not be vigilant. we need to practice group
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accountability. we need to think about what's in the best interest of the collective, right? that's what health equity and justice require of us. so if you have a family member who is older, if you a have a family member who has chronic health conditions, even if you have a family member who is uninsured, ensure that everyone gets boosted with the latest booster. in addition to that, if you are in a high-risk scenario, be sure that you have access to masking. ensure that you know what is in your body to keep yourself in the healthiest and safest point. >> doctor, i want to share with you from cnn's own dr. sanjay gupta. he writes about one of the greatest lessons we got from the pandemic. "while we had tremendous resources to combat this pandemic, our collective, poor health put us at a tremendous disadvantage." as you reflect on everything that we have endured as a nation and a globe, what are some of the lessons you are taking from
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the covid-19 pandemic? >> wow, boris. racism kills. it's just not our collective health, but that inequality in the united states of america that led to a disproportionate impact on black and brown community. i lost my father on april 13, 2020. i lost two cousins. the hospital that i worked at, i saw our beds filled with black and brown patients. my cyster is a long covid survivor. that is not normal. while we were able to shine a light, i don't know that we have a firm enough understanding of what needs to happen for health equity and health justice to be at the center of all of our public health action. and finally, what are we doing to cultivate connectedness across communities? that's information sharing. that's being able to elevate people's concerns and to connect them to the resources they need
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in order to be healthy and safe. >> some very important points there. dr. crihris pernell, our though are with you and all the other ones who lost family during this pandemic. hopefully something will come of the difficult lessons we have learned. >> thank you. >> jim? or rather brianna? still ahead, he told a myriad of lies at last night's cnn town hall. did donald trump set himself up for more legal scrutiny? plus, the consequences of senate republicans holding up military nominations and promotions. the nation's highest ranking military official warning it could have an impact on the readiness of the u.s. armed forces. this and more coming up on "cnn news central."
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sparks were flying at the cnn town hall in new hampshire. in one corner, donald trump. in the opposite corner, donald trump. he may have left himself bruised and batter and in greater legal jeopardy after some of his remarks in that town hall. with us now is norm eisen. thanks for joining us, norm. so i want to play some of the sound yesterday, and get your
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analysis on each issue as to why you believe he put himself in further legal jeopardy with some of these comments. let's begin what he said when he was pressed about his role on the day january 6th and what he did and did not do to stop the assault on the capitol. have a listen. >> when it was clear to you that they were not being peaceful, you saw them rushing the capitol, hitting officers, tasing them, beating them up. when it was clear they weren't being peaceful, why did you wait three hours to tell them to leave the capitol? they listen to you like no one else, you know that. >> they do, i agree with that. >> jim, the january 6th committee issued a criminal referral to the justice department that donald trump was implicated in the insurrection.
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special counsel jack smith has a grand jury investigating was donald trump a part of this insurrection? when he concedes that he has special influence, and we also know he pointed to some tweets last night, none of those -- he didn't do that for three hours. he's helping jack smith make his case. so this is not the last time we're going to see this footage played. i think it could very well be in the grand jury and if there is a trial played before the jury. >> so that relates to the doj's investigation of his role on january 6th. let's talk about the fulton county d.a. in georgia, the investigation of the famous phone call among other efforts to flip the results in the state of georgia. let's have a listen. >> given the fact that there are indictments expected to come in that case this summer, is that a call you would make again today? >> yeah, i called questioning the election.
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i thought it was a rigged election. i thought it had a lot of problems. i had every -- i called, listen to this, there were like seven lawyers on the call, many from their -- we're having a normal call. nobody said oh, gee, you shouldn't have said that. if this call was bad, i question the election -- >> you asked them to find -- >> i didn't ask them to find -- [ overlapping speakers ] i said you owe many votes because the election was rigged. >> "you owe me votes." tell me how that affects the investigation in georgia? >> the fulton county d.a., very likely she will charge him this summer, already had a mountain of evidence that donald trump interfered with the election in georgia. but he just gave her more proof. and it's the most important kind of proof for a prosecutor, jim. intent proof. whatever he believed, once the
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election had been certified, he can't demand that the secretary of state brad raffensperger find all those votes. it's vigilante justice. if i believed the bank owed me $11,780 and i went in there, and he threatened, and i went in there and i threatened the teller, give me my $11,780, even if i believed it belongs to me, you can't do that, and you can't do that in an election. again, very valuable footage for the prosecutors in georgia. >> you can't say you owe me that money, you can't say you owe me those votes. and on the e. jean carroll investigation, it was the sexual abuse piece, found libel, but also the defamation piece. let's play what trump said last
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night. have a listen. >> by the way, they said she wasn't raped, okay? >> they found -- >> they said he didn't rape her. i didn't do anything else either, because i have no idea who the hell she is. >> how does that factor into that case? >> well, the first two cases, the evidence is for the actual courts. in this case, it's for the court of public opinion. by the way, he misstated what happened in the trial. they did not exonerate him of rape. they found that he had committed battery of a sexual nature. >> sexual abuse, yeah. >> but before the jury of the american people, if donald trump is to have any chance of securing the white house again, he's going to have to persuade independent voters, he's going to have to persuade women. this was such an affront.
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it was so unhelpful to his purported objective. so this is one that i think very damaging proof in the court of public opinion. by the way, if e. jean carroll wanted to, she could sue him again. i don't think that's going to happen. >> and i'm sure some of his lawyers might have been uncomfortable with those comments, as well. norm eisen, thank you so much. boris? up next, unsettling for the institution. those words from the nation's highest ranking military officer about senate republicans holding up military nominations. the latest on that fight ahead. and later, police in oklahoma were called about someone yelling for help. instead, they got quite the surprise. video you don't want to miss. this is "cnn news central." your wyndham is waiting. whether it's for the bucket lists...
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republican senator tommy tubberville continues to block senior military nominations. he's doing it to protest new pentagon reproductive health policies that include paid time off and travel reimbursements to receive an abortion for spouses, independents, as well as service members. so far, he's blocked 200 nominations, and the chairman of the joint chiefs was before senators today, warning this could impact 4,000 service members and their families. >> this is unsettling for the institution, and it will have, over time, i think a significant
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degradation in readiness, in capability, morale. i think holding up commissioned officer's confirmations on anything other than their own personal talent and skills politicizes the military. if the intent is not to politicize the military, it has the opposite effect. >> our reporter is live for us on capitol hill. this is turning into a face-off. >> reporter: yeah, you're absolutely right. and the testimony that we heard today is only reinforcing democratic concern over this block kad of military promotions, and strengthening their resolve to address theish issues. senator elizabeth warren told my colleague moments ago that she's planning on initiating a pressure campaign to highlight the impacts that this blockade is having on the pentagon and on military readiness. she said, senator reid and i will draw more attention to what
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our defense secretary is telling us about the impacts on military readiness. but we should point out even some republicans are growing increasingly uncomfortable with tubberville's actions. take a listen to mitch mcconnell. >> no, i don't support putting a hold on military nominations. i don't support that. but as to why you need to ask senator tuberville. >> reporter: so some pretty significant comment there is from mitch mcconnell, the top republican. and we don't hear him often breaking with his fellow republicans there. >> you really don't. it's pretty significant. melanie, thank you. we have cnn's jake tapper with us now, who is covering this in "the lead" the next hour. this is going to have an impact, what he's doing. >> democrats and republicans in the senate both sides are actually incensed.
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it's 150 flag officers, generals, admirals, head of cybersecurity. these are positions that the pentagon truly believes, and republicans and democrats who know what they're talking about also agree, need to be filled. it's not even a question. he's doing this because he politically objects to an issue having to do with abortion in the pentagon. but these individuals, these are not political appointees, these are military appointments that have been earned. >> that's right. if he keeps it up, there will be many others. this is just sort of the tip of the iceberg. >> it trickles down. >> i also want to talk about something else involving senator tuberville. he made some very controversial comments on a local alabama radio station. let's listen. >> you mentioned the biden administration trying to prevent white nationalists from being in the military. do you believe they should allow white nationalists in the
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military? >> well, they call them that. i call them americans. >> okay. a lot of blowback from this. so he, to be clear, has since clarified, including cnn, that he thinks democrats, he's blaming democrats for making all maga republicans out to be white nationalists. but his office told al.com, he was being skeptical of the notion that there are white nationalists in the military. >> there has been a problem with white extremism in the military for a long, long time. there was a study that came out. it was kept private in october 2020, during the trump years, that concluded there was a problem. they were doing something about it. every few years, we hear something about a study. obviously, most people in the military are not white supremists or white nationalists. but it is a problem. he is trying to get out of what
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he said, but his basic knee jerk response was to defend white supremacists as americans, and no one is denying that they're americans. but there are nazis who are americans. you don't let them in the military. the biggest problem he has with his defense is that, in october of last year, he said one of the most objectively racist things i've heard a u.s. senator say in decades. this is senator tuberville in october talking about how democrats like crime. listen closely. >> some people say, well, they're soft on crime. no, they're not. they're pro crime. they want crime. they want crime because they want to take over what you got. they want conol what you have. they want reparations because they think the people that do the crime are owed that. bull shit! they're not owed that.
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>> "they want reparations because they think the people that do the crime are owed that." that is him saying criminals are black people and the discussion about reparations is somehow related to this. objectively racist. horrifying. and so he finds himself in this position where he's trying to explain, i didn't mean to come to the defense of white supremacists. it's just everyone on the left says all maga republicans are white supremacists. i might be more inclined to think okay, he just is not a particularly eloquent speaker. but he knew exactly what he was saying in that clip. >> it also is playing into this debate, and this division in the military over wokism, is the military too woke. and you've heard that rhetoric, right? this is something that i think you have some folks who are trying to exploit in an institution that has generally
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been pretty well respected, but has suffered recently. >> look, the military struggles to figure out ways to appeal to 18-year-olds, and to embrace a united states that is very different in 2023 than it was in 1953. they're not always going to get it right. they're sometimes going to say things that seem silly or out of touch or don't even have anything to do with military readiness. all of that is fair to be criticized 100%. that's not what this is. he's defending the presence of white supremacists in the military. and he himself has views, based on that october clip, that sound pretty white supremacist to me. >> thanks for showing that to us, jake. we are not going to miss "the lead" coming up at the top of the hour. now to a few other headlines at this hour. good news about hero police officer nicholas, he was shot in the head while responding to last month's deadly mass shooting at a bank in
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louisville, kentucky. the 26-year-old has been moved to a rehab facility. earlier this week, police department officials said he was taken off a ventilator and could respond to commands. a couple of police officers in oklahoma heard a cry for help, so they jumped into rescue mode. but there was one problem, the cry was not from someone in distress. well, not exactly. watch this. >> i think that's a person. it's a goat? >> it was a goat. a local farmer told the officers the barn animal was upset when it became separated from its fellow four-legged friends. and to be fair, when i get
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york county sheriff's department. the incident was captured by police cash and body cams. deputies were responding it to a call about mullinax being suicidal when the shooting began. here is what mullinax now says about the incident. >> may is mental health awareness month. i hate that i have to be the face of it this month, but if it helps even one single person in this world to not have to go through what me and my family have, i am okay with it. >> now, powerful message there. dianne gag ger joins us live with more. walk us through what happened here. >> reporter: so, boris, may 7, 2021, two friends of trevor called 911 saying they wanted someone to check on their friend, saying that they were worried about their buddy, that he was suicidal because likely stemming from his concern over an arrest warrant out for him.
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they warned the dispatcher they thought he may have a knife on him inside his truck, but said they just wanted this to be a wellness check. well, authorities arrived there on scene and i do want to warn you, this video is extremely difficult to watch and to hear. a note. the woman in the red shirt next to the driver's side door of this truck is mullinax's mother tammy beason. take a look. >> let's see your hands! hands, hands, hands! let me see your hands! >> now, after that happened, they also put the mother in handcuffs. she is also suing the sheriff's office. here is the thing though. state investigators looked into this and they ended up charging mullinax, charged him with pointing or presenting a weapon
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because deputies said they somehow a shotgun. the sheriff said that basically if someone pulls a weapon on someone wearing one of our badges, it's not going to end well for them. now, attorneys for mullinax don't dispute the fact that he had a gun in the truck but they say no point did he point, present or threaten anybody with it. they say this is gross negligence and a failure to de-escalate the situation pointing out how quickly that happened. less than ten seconds. but again the deputies, the sheriff, he says his deputies didn't do anything wrong. >> that is unsettling video to watch. dianne gallagher, thank you so much for that update. up next, if you think of italy, you think pasta, right? officials in the country are holding a crisis meeting over that favorite dish. we'll tell you why.
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in italy a crisis meeting because pasta is now costing a pretty penny. pasta prices jumping more than 17% and with an estimated 60% of disturbance eating pasta daily, many are outraged. >> this is the few sillious story. >> hey! >> i have been for the last 30 seconds trying to come up with some kind of pun, and i have got nothing. sorry. i failed you guys. >> the gnocchi one? >> it doesn't rhyme with anything. >> i can't believe the preeces. >> i refuse to pay. >> well, thank you so much for joining us today.
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