at the same time, we can't every time a case doesn't come out the way we want it pass a law to change the outcome. the legislature passed it, governor desantis insistence, was a law that says a jury with a vote of 84 can impose the death penalty. no other state has that. in every other state, the jury has to be unanimous except alabama where it has to be at least ten jurors. >> isn't it in opposition to a supreme court precedent? >> well, why he, and the supreme court has said at the guilt phase that we have to have unanimous juries and there are two reasons for that. one, the jury system when you have a unanimous jury means that every person has the same amount of power. every person has to be heard. when you have non-unanimous juries, you say you can disregard four jurors, very often that's the four people of color that are on the jury of the two, three, however many people of color are on the jury.

>> professor bright, thank you. congratulations. >> thank you for having me. >> appreciate it. >> great to see you. >> the fear of too much justice will be released in june. "cnn this morning" continues right now. we've seen success. we will achieve success. it will take time and to avoid, to avoid the number of people arriving at our southern border, we need to fix the broken immigration system. and by the way, broken immigration system that was dismantled by the prior administration. >> it is the top of the hour. a significant friday with a lot of news, particularly on immigration in this country. that was homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas talking to phil on "cnn this morning." we are live on both sides of the southern border as title 42 expires overnight. the united states bracing for

tens of thousands us of migrants who have been waiting to cross. plus, at any moment in new york city we are expecting marine veteran to turn himself in after a deadly chokehold on the subway sparked outrage across the nation. the debt limit meeting called off. what does it mean for negotiations as our nation inches closer to a catastrophic default. this hour of cnn this morning mourning starts right now. title 42 expired at midnight. take a look. these are live pictures out of yuma, arizona. tens of thousands of migrants have been waiting near the border for this very moment as the clock ran out on the immigration rule. overnight a judge blocked it. and u.s. officials are raising the alarm it will lead to

dangerous overcrowding at border facilities. rosa flores in el paso and david culver on the other side of that wall in juarez, mexico. david, let's begin with you. what are you seeing? >> reporter: poppy, what we are seeing right now is what we saw right when title 42 officially lifted at midnight eastern time, 9:59 here in ciudad juarez, and that is a rather quiet scene right now. it's interesting because you can see what our just now few dozen people left. we have been showing you this the past few days and there were hundreds if not thousands camped out here for hours, days, and weeks leading up to the expiration of title 42. but they are focused on getting to that point and that technically is u.s. soil, by the way, was not the deadline for title 42. we have been talking about this. they are on their own schedules in trying to get to the u.s. everyone has a different plan of action and a different focus. it's not a monolith amongst all

the migrants that you see. they are all focused on different aspects of when they want to get to the u.s., how they are going to get to the u.s. one thing that's significant is the show of force. what you see are the barbed-wire fences which have been increasing and coming closer and closer. they have been making this box smaller and preventing as of the past 24 hours any migrants from crossing over the rio grande here to go from mexico into texas. now, that is mostly texas national guard and texas state troopers. if you go back to november and december, sure, we saw this show of force starting to come on, but now it's certainly more intense and you are also starting to see more cooperation between cbp, federal officials in the u.s. and texas law enforcement and trying to process the migrants. i would say 24 hours ago when you had 1,000 plus people here you had mostly families. what we then saw 12 hours or so ago was the dividing of

different grouchlts families on one side. you had unaccompanied minors put into a group and single men. it seems they are down to just the single men they are continuing to process at this hour. you heard secretary mayorkas say on "cnn this morning" describing the desire to screen, process and vet. if you look over here, right at gate h42 as the sun is coming u behind, you see a line of migrants going through that process now. the biggest question is, all right, title 42 is over. what next? as i pointed out, it's case by case, depending on the migrant you speak with. we have been on the trains, the freight trains that they travel in from southern mexico. they tell us they are going to continue to not only try to get to the u.s., but try to get their family members in. there is a determination, a desperation. if they can't do it legally, as many hope to, we see even at this hour a lot of them in the

city center here in ciudad juarez on their phones trying to go through the cbp one app, get an appointment a asylum officers. they can't get that appointment, they will figure out other ways to get across. if not legally, they will troo to go undetected. that's where their mindset is at, not based on u.s. policy, poppy, which has been back and forth so many times. now that title 42 is officially lifted they are looking for what is next for them on an individual basis. that's got to be stressed here. >> yeah. doing great coverage. stay with us. we are going go across the border from juarez, mexico, to el paso, texas, where we find cnn's rosa flores. what have you seen over the course of this morning? >> reporter: you know, i'm just across the river from david culver, and we are seeing exactly that same thing. what he is mentioning are the individuals who are just behind

the border wall that you see behind me. according to the border patrol chief within 48 hours there was about 2,500 migrants and yesterday afternoon he was here. he spoke to the media about how -- about 1,500 of those had been processed and that about 1,000 were remaining. and if you remember those -- that video that david culver was just showing us moments ago, that's exactly what the border patrol chief had explained, that in the next 24 hours that they were planning on processing all of those individuals as quickly as they could and that they were going to prioritize families to make sure that those individuals were processed first, vetted first. i can tell you gets very cold here overnight. that was one of the reasons they wanted to prioritize families and vulnerable individuals. now, secretary mayorkas telling our own phil mattingly that individual are arriving. migrants are arriving. they are being vetted under

title 8, the decades-old protocol and the biden administration has been preparing for this moment for a very long time and that they are focusing on implementing policies that have legal consequences and built-in legal consequences, but also that they have legal pathways for migrants come into the united states. now, one of the policies that has been most criticized is the ban on asylum for individuals who cross over countries and don't seek protections in those countries, and poppy and phil, i should mention the aclu overnight filed a lawsuit challenging the biden administration saying that that's very dangerous for migrants because a lot of them would be likely deported or removed immediately under title 8. >> thank you so much. just moments ago, a marine veteran turned himself into new york city police in the killing of a homeless man in the subway

in new york. manhattan district attorney's office says they will charge 24-year-old daniel penny with manslaughter. we know it has happened. his attorneys are speaking right now. let's listen in. >> we will wait for the case to get to court and i have a feeling i will see you all at the courthouse. thank you. >> we have omar jimenez there. omar, obviously, we have been waiting for this. we knew it was coming. what have you heard up to this point? what were the lawyers saying there? >> reporter: yeah, so that was a lawyer for daniel penny. and he was basically laying out what we just saw unfold a few moments ago, that daniel penny, his client, turned himself in shortly after 8:00 a.m. eastern time. penny is the man who put jordan neely in the subway in a

chokehold, killing him, and of course he is expected be charged with second-degree manslaughter. now, as to the attorney, penny is inside the police precinct right now where he turned himself in. later today he is expected to be in court where he expect an arraignment as well. previously, he described their outlook on the case as penny was someone who is not only defending himself but people in the train car as well. of course, on the other side of things, you have had protesters who say, no, this is a clear example of murder because of what people have at least seen unfold on cellphone video. of course, those are the arguments back and forth. the district attorney's office, the official charges that would -- that are gonna come down are expected to be second-degree manslaughter as well. one of the things he just said a few moments ago was that he -- and this may give us a glimpse into some of the defense, he described himself turning -- or

described penny turning himself in as honorably and characteristic of service to this country. of course, penny, a u.s. marine veteran, so that may give us some clues into how they intend to defend his actions in this particular case. but again it is one that has indicted a firestorm of protests in new york and discussions with homelessness, mental health, all of the factors that ended up as we understand putting jordan neely in this situation in the first place and then, of course, the fact that we have heard from witnesses in this that he was acting erratically prior, asking for food, saying he was hungry, saying he was thirsty, saying he wasn't afraid to go to jail to serve a life sentence. from there it's in those moments that will be the crux of this case. what happened when he started acting erratically as witnesses described, between those words and when the chokehold began. and that, of course, is going to make a major difference here as

many have asked and declared should this case have resulted in death. >> that's right. omar jimenez on the scene, thanks so much. >> let's cringe in -- errol louis. let's just bring with you. >> it's startling and sapit's a case that's starting to bring the city together to have a conversation about some really important problems around mental health, drug addiction, how the city responds, you know, at least half a dozen city agencies touched jordan neely's life over the last couple of years. that includes the jalts. that includes the cops. that includes cases he was in city custody and we still as a city were not able to help this person. and so, you know, those are sort of the most important questions in my opinion long term. what happened to daniel penny?

unfortunately his defense is largely going to turn on making this seem as if the subways are scary, that people who are sick and in need are also a threat that have to be met physical force, in this case deadly physical force. a lot of us don't believe that is true, but that's going to be the conversation that we are going to have. >> could i ask you, i heard this before and it's jarring how many agencies, how many federal or state government institutions had a role in a life and totally failed. totally failed. i am not putting blame on anybody. but for this to reach this point for so many people in this city and so many cities, what does that tell you kind of about the state of things in the country? >> that's a big question. a few years ago this death might have gone unnoticed and we are now in the kind of post-george floyd era where there is video and there is outcry and there is not the assumption that the victim is guilty, that the victim is the person who is

being, scary, bad, needed to be taken down. the flip side is part of the backlash to that dialogue is that it might be okay in some cases for people to believe they can take it upon themselves to take down a threat or anything they perceive to be a threat. and that has accompanied a lot of legislation kind of stand your ground things that say i can step in as a regular person and do something. and adds a culture, we are now going to have a dialogue about where to those things meet? what is justice if those two ideas clash? >> you nailed it. and i think that's such an important and hard conversation to have that we need to be having more of. >> omar drew a line when he mentioned that the attorneys are saying this is an honorable person, we are going to hear a lot about his military experience. i am sure we are going to hear about whether that sprins should

be deployed in a civilian setting in ideas of perceived threat especially in a trans-racial death. >> even if you are afraid of him, screaming he is hungry, maybe instead of a chokehold you give him a sandwich, you know, or a mint, you know, a candy bar. >> that's very new yorker perception, right? you are like, eh, it's the subway. i think there is a lot of media coverage that says crime is out of control, new york is the avatar for that. if you want to have a dialogue for that, you are somehow not admitting how bad it is. a lot of things will play out in this conversation. >> thank you, guys, for that very much. i want to get your take on immigration. phil did an interesting interview with secretary mayorkas. title 42 is gone and we wait and see what happens. what is interesting, too, is in the context -- not just republicans hitting the administration, it's some democrats. it's independents like kyrsten sinema saying you said you have been dealing with this, preparing more than a year but

you're not ready. fair? >> yes and no, right? in the immediate sense, could they have prepared better? i suppose you could go, you know, sort of logistically could say, yeah, maybe you should have had more people, put out more warnings, more messaging to stop being sort of fooled by these lies that the traffickers are putting out there. on the other hand, every person, including and especially the members of congress, have also been sitting on their hands. this has been brewing for a generation now. and we still have don't have a comprehensive policy that in a logical and consistent and morally grounded way separates those who need help and those who are he weligible to apply f asylum for those who are economic refugees. and it's going to cost a lot of money. and that's why you have to do it througho through congress. it's not something you can -- >> it's a question where you earn points for not solving it. by that i mean it's a great thing to hit your opponent with,

but if you actually have to stsit and make solutions, then you're going to take the political hit, right? the late john mccain to found that out several times. we heard about bipartisan immigration reform several times. doesn't go anywhere. i am not saying that won't happen here, but president biden actually cared title afrom the trump administration, right? that's what democrats are yupse about. if we skyhook kyrsten sinema out of that sentence, because she is not aligned with democrats right now and is trying to appeal to a republican base her state that deeply upset how border security is handled, not the humanitarian crisis, then you have a whole other dialogue about, yes, you can secure the border, but will that ever deal with what you pointed out, root causes? and those things are tied into the debt ceiling debate, budget

debates, bus if you don't have money for immigration judges, if you don't put in money u.s. aid, which many conservatives say we shouldn't be doing, the root causes will never be dealt with. >> the incentives are so catastrophically misaligned. i am not saying this is an easy fix. >> but that's their job. >> it's like decades -- >> it's not that -- >> nothing is going to happen and -- >> that's a choice. >> it's sad and terrible. we have to let you go. i am a massive super fan of your podcast. >> i love it. >> you need to be sure to check out the assignment wherever you get your podcasts. i am super excited for this week for exactly the reason i always talk about. like this is a thing that i kind of look at and see in the per i have ifry -- >> anti-woke backlash and all those things touch on that. >> thank you. >> and you get smarter every

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veteran turned himself into new york city place in the killing of a homeless man on the subway. manhattan district attorney's office says they are charge 24-year-old daniel penny with manslaughter. his lawyer just spoke outside the police precinct. >> good morning. daniel penny surrendered at the fifth precinct at the request of the new york county district attorney's office. he did so voluntarily and with the dignity that is characteristic of his history of service to this grateful nation. the case had now go to court. we expect an arraignment will occur this afternoon and the process will unfold from there. >> let's bring in former manhattan assistant district attorney jeremy soland. i want to start with the basic.

everyone has seen the video, knows kind of the conversation about this. what exactly does manslaughter in the second-degree mean and what do you think of that charge in this case? >> absolutely. for preliminary matter, homicide is not necessarily a murder, although it can be, and a murder is an intentional crime. this is a reckless crime. there is a standard of care and he was aware of and the allegation will be that there was an unjustifiable and a real risk that death could occur based on his actions and he ignored that risk or was reckless with that and ultimately it resulted in mr. neely's death. >> the d.a. options here could have done this now, could have done this arrest the day of or the day after or could have brought it before a grand jury and let that grand jury decide. what do you make of this move? >> well, i think they did the right thing out of the gate. you have to have your homework done and make sure the evidence is there. you don't want to just charge someone with a crime that might not be the correct crime. they did their investigation. they soak to witnesses.

they got video. it could be -- it's interesting. if the evidence is there to charge him with this manslaughter in the second-degree, arguably, they should go right to grand jury and present that case to the grand jury, let the grand jury decide, let them vote and if it's manslaughter in the second-degree, proceed. this is a felony complaint. it's very different. it hasn't reached that stage. maybe they are looking at other charges. maybe they are gathering other evidence. but they have enough now to charge them. that's a reasonable question. why not go right to the grand jury? >> this is a complex case i think for the city, for the entire country, trying to figure it out. to some people it's obvious it happened and it shouldn't happened and other people are trying to think through it in different ways. as you think through a grand jury, as you think through perhaps a future jury, what are you thinking of if you were a prosecutor trying to bring this case? >> well, there is a very emotional strong component because it's such a tragic

event. one tragedy doesn't say another tragedy should be okay. what i mean by that, there is someone who died without reason, without cause, he should not have died and there are arguments to be made and we have only seen that one clip of the video, it shouldn't have reached that point. at the same time, prosecutors have to make sure this was a just result and ensure that whatever the charges is the right one. we don't charge someone with a crime above and beyond because there is a genuine emotional piece to it. there is a crime. it's maybe manslaughter in the second-degree. it's a c felony as opposed to the murder, which is vastly different and more serious. so i think they have to make sure that this is really done right and well and thorough because you are controlling the public opinion and emotion and also doing what is right for the case, even if in the end it's tragic no matter what. >> errol louis brought up the point this is going to rely largely on the testimony of all of the people who were on that subway car intermingled with the fact and the narrative about crime in the city despite some

of the facts and fear and all of that. it's complicated. >> it's very complicated. i would hope that -- and i am confident that the d.a.'s office and i hope that potential jurors set aside any noise about what mr. penny's history is or what mr. neely's history is in terms of his criminal history. that's not relevant. what is relevant is what happened in that subway car or leading into that subway car. were people in imminent danger of serious physical injury or death that allowed or justified mr. penny to take the action that he did? and i won't pass judgment because i have not seen all the evidence, nor has anyone else. we have a lot to discover still. >> awfully difficult to do that in a vacuum. >> right. >> try to centralize that. there will be more on this. thank you so much. even before title 42 expired, the city of el paso had hundreds of migrants living on streets and the mayor joins us live as his city prepares now for a post-title 42 reality.

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border patrol known as title 42 expired. hundreds of migrants at the southern border are hoping for a shot at asylum in the united states, though administration officials have tried to make it clear the border is not open. tens of thousands of migrants are already in custody as cities along the border like el paso, texas, have braced for this moment. so let me bring in the democratic mayor of el paso oscar leeser. mayor, thank you very much. you literally are, i mean, your city is the epicenter of this crisis. can you tell us what has happened since title 42 expired? >> well, we have been preparing. we talk about what we had done prior to. we have been working for this -- the last month. we declared a state of emergency on may 1st and we had a school that had been closed down and we've been able to open that and prepared -- we have a second school that's prepared and ready to go. then our civic center. and we actually have great working relationship with the

federal government, with cbp, customs, i.c.e., so we were able to work and be prepared for yesterday. i'm really, really pleased the way everyone came together and we were able to do -- we didn't get the huge rush yesterday because we have been leading up to it. >> today is a different story because title 42 is expired. we have even seen mayors in sanctuary cities like new york city the mayor saying we are at capacity. we cannot shelter any more migrants. do you know if you are going to be able to handle this? >> no. they are not coming to el paso. i think that's something that's really important to talk about. they are coming to the united states. once they get processed, then they are free to go just like anyone else. the destination they pick, that's where they will be going. a lot have their own funding and some will -- we'll assist with. they are to el paso.

they are coming to the united states. in 2020 in el paso, we had 64,000 asylum seekers. year to date today, we have 281,000 have come across. a community like el paso and the community along the southern border couldn't take on this type by themselves. it's important to know that we will continue to decompress and help them go to their next destination. >> phil interviewed homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas last year. here is part of what he said. i'd like your reaction on the other side. >> we've been planning for months and we have been executing on those plans. i have been very clear for months that the situation is going to be challenging when we transition from the public health authority of to our immigration enforcement authorities. i have been very, very clear and open about that. i have also been very clear that we have confidence in our plan, our plan will take time, but our plan will succeed.

>> what would be success for you, because there are democrats, as you know, and independents in congress who have said this administration has not done enough knowing that this day would come. >> well, i can tell you that we work together with our community and secretary mayorkas, fema, has given us the funding and theable to do what we need to do, do the job of the federal government. at some point, the immigration process broken. it needs to be fixed. you know, i think at this point they need to learn that -- they need to disagree, but also work for mutual agreement and be able to fix the immigration problem. there has to be an end game. a city like el paso and cities across the country cannot continue to go in this man earp. >> right. >> so even though they helped us, we have to fix the immigration problem because the end game in infinity is something we can't continue

forever. >> cannot continue. before you go, mayor, i would like to show our viewers this. hopefully, you can see it. i am going to play video of this piece that our colleague rosa flores did and aired on cnn yesterday. these are enforcement officials handing out flyers to hundreds of migrants outside a church in your city in el paso asking them to turn themselves in. this is unique to see something like this happening in the middle of the night, rosa tells us, and then later there were vehicles, their own marked vehicles coming by. again, encouraging them to go. and it turned out, rosa reported, 900 migrants turned themselves in with lines around the block. i think it reminds us of the humans. the humanitarian crisis that i think it's lost in a lot of these headlines. >> you know, i think it's very important to talk about that because we had about 3,000 people on the street and our goal was to make sure that no one was on the street, the

children, the women, young kids were not exploited and were taken care of. we worked together with customs and border patrol and the el paso police department, enforce immigration laws but to enforce -- and that number went from three how to a couple hundred within a couple of days. that was to help them. our responsibility as leaders here in el paso is to make sure the el paso community and visitors continue to be safe. that was a perfect example that i went down yesterday. i have been there almost every day. we have seen the numbers go down because they realize that somebody -- really, this wasn't a trick, we are working together to give them a pathway to become legal and go through the legal immigration process. >> so you were just -- not comfortable with that, because that is the kind of response we wouldn't see in an area like that around a church, for example. >> yeah, because, you know, the border patrol will not go into the church area. >> right. >> that's -- they feel that's their safe heatwave-. we were able to talk to them,

show them the advantages of how doing this would help them and be able get that number that will give them the ability to move forward. that really helped and we will continue to do that. we go in twice a day, clean the streets to make sure our visitors and community does not get infected, don't get sick. we have been very, very proactive and we'll continue to do that. and i think it shows by the numbers last night and everything we have done and, you know, the thing is we still need to continue to prepare for the unknown because we don't know what's coming in tomorrow, we don't know what will be coming in a week from now. we will continue to work together and work with our partners. >> mayor leeser of el paso, appreciate your time this morning. we know you are very busy. thank you. >> thank you. have a wonderful weekend. and happy mother's day. >> oh, thanks. phil. >> that i believe in the business is what we call a segue because it is that time of year again to remind the mothers in our lives just how special they are, and what else could remind

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