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>> we have realtime look at the border in the first hours of the post title 42 era and what some are seeing. ukrainian forces are making gains in the area of bakhmut, and images of the intense fighting. and it is called a substantial health problem says cdc and what researchers have found about the health of american children. this is cnn's "news central."
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this morning for the first time in more than three years, the u.s. border officials are processing migrants without title 42, policy that allowed for quick and almost instant expulsion. that expired overnight. so over the last few days, there have been historic numbers at the border, but today, so far, it is important to note that our reporters there tell us that they are seeing long but orderly lines and no real change from last few days, and not the chaos so far that had been feared. but, the challenges remain, and the administration officials say it could get worse. this is brownsville, texas, last hour. you can see all of the buses lined up. they were filled with migrants who had just crossed there. cnn's rosa flores across the state in el paso this morning.
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rosa, give us a sense of what you are seeing. >> you know, you are exactly right. we have been monitoring the situation here on the ground, and everything so far looks under control. i talked to the city of el paso s so that they say they have a small number, and they are prepared to house 1,000 individuals, and let me show you that it comes to the number, and it is shot yesterday, and this is from the drone that you can see, and this is the area that we will see where i am right now, and the crowd is bigger there, and according to the u.s. border patrol chief, and up to 125 migrants that make s a area to process, and this is the
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drone image of what it looks like on the ground, and you can see that the lines are a lot shorter, and fewer people on the other side of the border wall. according to the chief yesterday afternoon, there was 1,000 migrants waiting, and you can see from the line, that is fewer than 1,000 migrants, and his point was, and according to secretary mayorkas this morning on cnn this morning, what they are doing, and focusing on is processing, and transporting the migrants as quickly as possible. you can see behind me that there is a bus back there, and those buses have been going in and out of the area. they load the migrants on to the buses, and they take them over to processing facilities. john, one point that i want to make, and the mayor of this city made this point, and these migrants are here, and this is the gateway and they are really going to cities and states around this country.
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>> rosa, i wanted to make clear of the imagery that i have not seen before, the crowds in the previous days based on the drone footage much larger than the crowds so far than what we are seeing on the other side of the border? >> you are absolutely right. according to the u.s. border patrol chief there was about 2,500 people just a few days ago, and so, they have been really focusing on transporting these migrants out of this area very quickly. one of the plans that the biden administration had in place for the lifting of title 42 is something called decompression which is moving the migrants from area at capacity to other areas along the border to be at other areas to be processed quickly. >> thank you, rosa flores, this is giving us a window to what is
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going on and obviously, it could change, but it is important. kate and sara? >> thank you, john. and now, we have been monitoring the responses from the biden administration. what is happening there? the mood after they have lost this fight in federal court and just the fact that the end of title 42 and that there may be a bigger surge at some point? >> sara, what they have warned about is that this is going to be a challenge is coming to fruition and it is the case this week and certainly after the ruling from a federal judge last night in florida which is essentially at least temporarily blocked the administration from releasing migrants without a court date. the homeland security alejandro mayorkas said it applied to a fraction of people, but it was to alleviate the crowding in the facilities the, but now they
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have to contend with that lawsuit as it plans to put other plans in motion, but i spoke to a source which said that litigation was baked into the planning. they anticipated some difficulty in putting the plans in motion, because there have been lawsuits as there have been over the course of the biden administration over the border policy. so that is what they are currently contending with as they continue to manage what is happening at the border and going back to decades' old protocol and going back to the consequences which is what the secretary underscored on cnn this morning. take a listen. >> we have been very, very clear that there are lawful, safe and orderly pathways to seek relief in the united states. if one arrives at our southern border when it is going to face tough er consequences, and this is what we will deliver. >> the official tells me that what is top of mind is how long
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the surge is going to look like and what it is going to be looking like, and those are the numbers it is going to be looking like in the hours and days to come, and as you heard from the secretary and the onus is on congress to pass immigration reform. >> thank you, priscilla alvarez. kate? >> joining us is john sandwick, and he is the former acting director for immigration customs enforcement and former acting counsel for homeland security. and john, thank you for coming on. and as we heard from priscilla alvarez, and rosa flores, smaller crowds of people from the other side of the border is people waiting to cross and come n in, and then we saw from yesterday, are you seeing that as a sign of success here in the early hours or when do you have a sign of whether the biden administration have a handle in this post title 42 era?
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>> well, they have to be thrilled with the images that we are seeing now, right? that said, i'm not terribly surprised, because the biden approach is carrot and stick. so schedule an appointment, and then we will have a scheduling process to processing centers which are not opened yet. and then it is going to be difficult if not impossible to make asylum in the united states, and they messaged it. they created a fear in the populations waiting for title 42, that if they don't come now, they will be subject to the harsher rule, and they wanted to lower the numbers between the ports and push them to the orderly pathways. so at the moment, they have to be thrilled and the question is if it is going to hold for the next few days and at what point does the american public start to wondering how does this all end? when does this surge of the
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people to the people to the border stop? that is the difficult question to answer. >> also, on the other end of the process is an important part of this that you have been talking about, and i feel like we have been talking about this for years now which is the backlog of the immigration courts now, and the backlog is standing in the government right now in more than 2 million cases is the asylum cases before judges is that the way you put it that hit me, unless and until there are more immigration judges put to this problem to process claims, this is not going to end. why hasn't this happened? >> kate, i don't know. to be honest, i almost sound like a broken record saying this, and if you are asking anyone who has had the experience in the immigration court system, it is the back end of the system that is broken. the part of the problem is that you in congress and you want to sound like you are doing something on the border and you
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focus on border patrol agents and technology and walls and nobody says we need more asylum officers or judge, but the mass is because we have failed to resource that end of the system. we continue to fund like the border that we face, the issues and the challenges at the border, and back in 2012 to 2016, but things have changed. unless and until we fund this, we are not going to get a handle on the situation, and unless people know that there is integrity in the system. i hate to say it, but the majority of the people that we are seeing the images they are going to be released in the united states, and be subject to date, but they won't be for three or four or five years until there is a decision of the asylum case, and that is what going to draw people here, and it is hard to say we have true enforcement until there is a way to give people to have asylum that deserve it, but we can't
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wait that long to give asylum to the people who need it. >> and what about the decompression people to let them out who don't have a court date, but there is a process in place, and what is this going to do to the mess of a system? >> yeah. kate, right now for the border patrol and the administration and the at large, 10,000 people a day, and we have short-term capacity at 5,000 beds and 10,000 beds long-term at i.c.e. and those beds are full. so how quickly to process. and the documents to start them on the process and you can save a little bit of time and release the individuals, but that is not going put too big of a wren inch the administration's plans, and yes, it cost them more time to spend on the migrant and more time for potential problems to happen, overcrowded facilities,
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and other backlogs to form. that is not a big deal, but one thing that is going to scare the administration is whether the challenges that have been filed last night to the new asylum rule. if a court enjoins that rule, that is problems, because this is a deterrent for more people crossing border right now, to wait to see how that rule place out. >> let me ask you this, because the whole issue underlying the crisis that has not been addressed necessarily is the misinformation that people in south and central america are getting about what is going to happen once they reach the border. a city official in el paso on the show with us yesterday, and the way he put it is what he is hearing from the migrants arriving in el paso, they have been told that once you get there, you are getting automatic citizenship. let me play for you what he says. >> in my personal opinion is people just trying to make money off of the horrible conditions in south america, central america, and they figure, well,
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if i just tell them this, they will pay me all of the life savings to get up to the border, and that is something that we need to do a better job of telling people what the real story is. >> so, federal official, and i mean, they have cited this as a real problem as well, john. how do you combat that? >> well, kate, it is really hard. everything is driven by smugglers and none of this is by accident. professional smuggling organizations who work with or for the drug cartels are controlling everything at the border and they are telling lies throughout southern immigration. and now, he says messaging, and secretary mayorkas says there is no open border, and he is is trying to combat it. and believe it or not, the department will spend a lot of money advertising in latin america to combat it.
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but to be honest, there is an active sales pitch, and effective to spread the false narratives and sadly, they induce people, and exploit them every step of the way, and gouge them for every dime they have, and even when they are in the u.s. and ransom more money from them, and they are very effective at spreading the narratives, and it is hard to counter them. >> it is great to have you on, john. thank you so much. >> thank you. sara? >> developing this morning, the veteran accused of killing a new york street artist on a subway has been arrested and heading to the courthouse. moments ago, daniel penny was escorted out of the precinct in handcuffs. he is facing a second-degree manslaughter charge. neely died after penny put him in a chokehold. they say he got on the train saying that he was acting
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erratically and said he was hungry, and thirsty and he didn't care if he died. and then penny wrapped his arms around his neck and held him to the ground, and witnesses said that he held him there for several minutes until he stopped breathing. now, weeks later, penny is arrested. now, there are calling for the mayor to revamp services for homeless population in the city. neely was known in the city for his michael jackson impersonations, and the family tells cnn that he had been suffering from mental health issues since 2007 when he found his mother's body in a suitcase. he had been put on the list of top 50 people with acute needs. his funeral will be next friday. >> and neely's lawyers said that he risked his own life to
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protect the passengers on the train, and he did not intend to harm anyone. we expect to hear more about this from omar who is outside of the courthouse. >> yes, daniel penny left here not long ago in handcuff, and it is an image that protesters and members of the neely family have wanted to see since this happened, and theday is the actual day, and penny headed over to the courthouse, and the arraignment is expected to begin any moment now, momentarily this morning. so we will be listening for what is coming out of the arraignment process. i want you to listen to lawyers who spoke briefly when he turned himself in this morning, and gave us maybe a little bit of the hint of how they plan to defend daniel penny.
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>> dealing with the situation with the integrity and honor that is characteristic of who he is, and characteristic of his honorable service in united states marine corps, and you know, he has his head held up high. >> so obviously, that is on one side of things, but i briefly mentioned another side of the protesters and the neely family have been calling for. they are calling for charges, and they even asked for charges more severe of, this and this is what the district attorney has come back where he is expected to face a second-degree manslaughter charge. this is what the neely family is saying in reaction to this. >> so who are we to look at someone and say they were houseless, so they must be a bad person. they were houseless, so they must have been about to attack us. they must have been about to hurt us, so we had the right to take his life, because our life matters more. that is not the situation that
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we want to live in. that is not the community that we want to have. >> reporter: and that is the crux of the controversy here that many people feel that no mat tert what happened in the moments leading up to the chokehold that it shouldn't have ended up in death, and that is what is going to be hammered out in court now as the judicial proceedings move forward as we are mentioning penny's attorneys say that he was trying to protect not just himself, but the other people on the car, the train car of what they believed was a threat. on the other side, people who have seen neely's case and what life became for years to put him in the situation, they saw someone who needed help, and who said that he was hungry, who said that he was thirsty and basically portrayed a situation of desperation. that is why the controversy is playing out to be so polarized and now that it is in court, we will have more answers soon.
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>> and in court, and the answers are to be soon, and we know that you are following it, omar. keep us posted. and now, they were on the run, and one person connected to the jailbreak. and now, with militants operating in gaza, and israel has failed. a live report is coming up as another round of air strikes are launched overnight. and a big red flag from the cdc when it is coming to young girls and their mental health. we have the new research for you.
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topping international headlines this morning. pakistan's form per prime minisr is out of jail. he is accused of corruption, and he says that he is innocent. several members of the party have said that it is arrested sparking protests. in turkey, the president who has been in power for 20 years is facing opposition after his response to the earthquake there. he is a key figure in nato and the main holdout in keeping sweden from joining alliance. so if he is ousted, it could
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have global implications. also, this morning, the u.s. ambassador to south africa is accusing that country of helping russia in the war against ukraine. they said that south africa delivered arms and ammo to a sanctioned russian ship "lady r" while it was docked at the cape last year, and the ambassador said he would bet his life on the accuracy of the allegations. the south african government has summoned the ambassador over his remarks. kate? an inmate has been recaptured after he escaped through a hole in a fence, and second prisoner escaped with him. this man is linked to four murders, but he is still on the run. police say he is also armed and dangerous. cnn's danny freeman is following all of this for us. >> reporter: kate, a lot of developments in the story since we first brought it to you earlier in the week.
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two prisoners have escaped and two arrests made, but one of the inmates is still on the loose. the arrest made last night by u.s. marshals. 24-year-old nsasir grant was arrested in a philadelphia neighborhood. the way he was arrested is interesting. the u.s. marshals were surveillancing an area where they believed that he would be, and then they saw a man coming out of the home with full female garb with a muslim covering and they followed the man to the parking lot and confronted him and ultimately arrested him. he was surprised when they found him, and he went into custody without incident. there was a second arrest in this case. a 21-year-old woman who was arrested accused of helping the two inmates escape sunday. at this point, we don't have many details of how she may have helped them escape.
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she is facing four felonies including crime of escape. her attorney has not offered a comment. now, ameen hurst is the 18-year-old who is still on the loose at this time according to law enforcement, and he is the one in jail originally facing four homicide counts. at this point, the u.s. marshals say he is armed an dangerous, and while it is an exhausting week searching for the two escaped prisoners now that one is back behind bars, they can devote all of the energy and resources into finding final escaped inmate. kate. >> danny freeman on it for us. thank you. john? >> new information coming in that reform and changes taking place in ukraine. now the ukrainian forces are now shaping operations in advance a counter offense against russia. and new rules of giving blood. the fda is changing guidelines to allow gay and bisexual men to
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new this morning, the russian ministry of defense acknowledged that they have pulled back from bakhmut to get to a more advantageous defensive position. this is as cnn has new video
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from bakhmut showing the ukrainian military attacking russian forces. also just in, video from a drone which shows the ukrainian soldiers attacking russian troops in bakhmut, and ukraine says they have pushed the russian forces back at least two kilometers in the city. in addition to this, there is other reporting from cnn chief national security reporter jim sciutto. and so, tell us what is shaping operations are, and this is your reporting. >> that is right. shaping operations essentially preparing the battlefield for the advance of ground forces for this counter offensive that we are hearing of for some time,
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and we know that ukrainian forces are preparing for, and i am told by a u.s. military official, and western official that the shaping operation, and the preparations attacks have begun, and that is ukraine is striking russian ammunition depots and the russian communications hubs and command centers and other targets behind the enemy lines in effect to soften up russian forces prior to ukrainian, this larger ukrainian advance, and the shaping advances for what is known to last many days prior to it, the bulk of a ukrainian counter offensive. i should also note that there is not necessarily going to be a line of demarcation between the shaping of advance, and the advancing of the ground units which don't have to begin on the same day, and waving the ukrainian flag, and beginning at different places and times. >> maybe what we are seeing from bakhmut is connected to it or not, and the overall strategy is
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to push back russian forces in many time, and then there are new british longer-range missiles that we have learned that the ukrainians have in this week, and where do they fit into this? >> basically, they triple the ukrainian range. up until now, they have been able to go 49 miles with the advanced longest range u.s. weapons and missiles that the u.s. has provided and britain has taken a step that we are reluctant to do, and to give the shorter range misill with 100 miles and gives the ukrainians the deepenmy lines with greater accuracy and the cruise missile to fly low and to evade russian defenses, and hit bigger targets and that is to include the targets potentially at least in crimea where russia has been dug in the invasion, and the black fleet and some of the most prized installations and putting them in ukrainian range.
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>> it is amazing how well it lines up, and you can draw a line up from the ukrainian-held territory down south to the cry meanian peninsula. jim sciutto, national security correspondent, we will see you this afternoon. >> thank you. i will be there. and now, the violence between israel and islamic militant, and we are told that cease-fire talks are on ice right now, and jihad is expanding the scope of the attacks targeting areas of jerusalem since the last round of violence began. israel began to place attacks today. we have ben wedeman there with the latest. so you are there and what is happening on the ground there? >> well, sara, within the last
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two hours, we are seeing a series of israeli strikes, and some of them are behind us here, and one just a few minutes ago, and strikes throughout the gaza strip, and one of them in gaza city and it seems that there was a strike in an apartment building, and there were casualties and reports of fatalities as well, and reports that one of the fatalities was syed husseini who is a leader of the islamic jihad. shortly thereafter, they put out a statement of what they will be sending a message shortly, a message in which the message they are saying that david sling which is this latest israeli anti-missile system which has been deployed, and they said that sling will not help you. so we are sort of expecting within the next few minutes or next few hours another barrage
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of rockets. we have seen several coming out of gaza today. some of them were intercepted just over our heads, and we had to take cover, and the shrap nelshrapnel was raining down around us, and in this latest round of fighting, the death toll is hitting 33 on the palestinian side according to the palestinian ministry of health. one palestinian was killed because of a israeli rocket that got through the israeli dome system. that diplomatic source, and all of the mediation efforts led by egypt at the moment are on ice. sara. >> ben wedeman, thank you to you and your team covering this from sderot. kate? >> a substantial public health problem. the cdc is raising concerns about the children of america, and especially teenaged girls,
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kate? >> a new report from the cdc is painting a dark picture of the state of mental health amongst america's kids. researchers have tracked emergency room visits related to mental health, and those visits have risen sharply among kids in the pandemic, and the cdc is terming it a substantial public health problem. i will put it another way, a serious crisis. elizabeth cohen is back with us taking a look at it. elizabeth, this report is troubling data when it comes to teenaged girls. >> that is right, kate. the differences between the number of e.r. visits and the suicide attempts of girls and boys is really, really striking. let's take a look at the emergency room visits of the fall of 2022, and what they found is that there are 4,000e.r. visits for girls for mental health issues and four
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times higher for suicide attempts than boys. this gender discrepancy was true during the pandemic, but it was exacerbated for girls because they seemed to have suffered more than boys from 4,000 to 2.4,000 for boys. >> and is there a possible to have a glimmer of hope, because it is hard to see the number of the wall of the suicide attempts especially among the teenage girls. what is the glimmer of hope they may be providing? >> there is a little bit of glimmer of hope, kate. they looked at the difference of the e.r. visits in the fall of 2021 and the fall of 2022. in 2021, we were full in the pandemic, and by the fall of 2022, things were better, and the e.r. visits went down by 10%. that is a good thing, and still
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san francisco, california, a city that has been very much in the headlines recently for the wrong reasons. challenged by crime, homelessness, and drugs. according to one recent survey, san francisco residents feel less safe now than at in point in the last 25 years. this weekend on the whole story, sarah focuses in on the bay area, a place she once called home. here's a preview. >> the video of the guy wheeling his bicycle into the walgreens in san francisco loading up and then bicycling out went worldwide. the mass swarm robberies went worldwide. >> even with some videos going viral, robberies and larceny, which is property theft without threat of violence, were down in
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2022 compared to pre-pandemic levels. while the number of car br break-ins was higher in 2017. awe though theft did rise in 2022, the highest it has been in seven years. >> the number one that i hear. the number one that i hear isn't necessarily violence. because those -- it's the car break-ins. by far, the thing people say is, if you go to the city, don't park your car here or there. watch where you park. how do you combat that? >> most people unfortunately in some capacity, feel like they have been or know someone who has been a victim. my car got broken into right in front of my home. there was nothing in it. i don't have anything to steal because i know better. but it's a tough thing.
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we're going to keep working on that to combat it. >> that was the mayor saying, yeah, it happens to me. it happened right outside of my home. when you go into the city, you'll see signs on cars saying, it's open. there's nothing in here to steal because people are tired of paying for their windows, which is more expensive than anything to have in the car. >> first of all, thank you for coming on the show and talking about this. this was a good booking for us. >> we love to be awkward. >> we have had a chance to see you working on this for a long time. this is a really terrific report that you had. talk to us about the people. >> you saw the mayor. we talked to the former mayor, because he still holds court in all of san francisco. put we also talked to many people affected by what's going on. people like me love the city, and to be clear, still love the city. we talked to people on the streets who came in to san
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francisco, many of them from out of town, often from california or places like oregon, who have come into town thinking this is the mecca for someone like me who doesn't have any home to be in. but also because drugs are cheap, they are widely available. they are easy to find. and we talked to one gentleman and his girlfriend who said, look, i'm addicted. he's oded several times, but i love heroin and i can't get off it. i'm not getting arrested when the police walk by me. this is what we can do here. that's what i'm going here. >> and we have reported on so many examples of high-profile, the murder of the founder and other crimes that have been takening place in san francisco. does the mayor, do they see crime as the main problem facing san francisco right now? >> i think they see drugs.
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here's the thing. when it comes to violent crime, san francisco's numbers are far low er for homicide than places like, sorry kate, indianapolis, indiana. cities of similar size. almost four times as many homicides in that city in 2022 and 2021 than in san francisco. same thing with jacksonville, florida. trup the the number of homicides there. so the violent crime numbers, i think they get skewed because people see these folks getting killed and think, my gosh, but there is a problem with things like car break-ins, with theft, and those are the things that mess with people's everyday lives. there's the problem of seeing the drugs and being accosted in person as you're just walking around the city, which is only 7 by 7 square miles. it's hard to avoid things like that. >> it's amazing. so much more for us to learn. you worked really hard on this hour.
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