the fence. if that doesn't work we'll pole vault in and if that doesn't work we'll parachute in. >> is that part of your superpower, just be tougher and more relentless and wear the other guy out? >> just get it done, baby. that's just get it done. you have to compromise. that's a negotiation. but you cannot, you cannot lose the fight. you cannot tire. resting is rusting. you got to stay there. >> thank you for watching. you can see our entire conversations with alexis ohanian and smokey robinson any time you want on hbo max. and please join us here on cnn every friday night to find out "who's talking next." good evening, everyone. i'm alisyn camerota. daniel penny, the suspect in the

chokehold death of jordan neely was arrested and charged with second degree manslaughter. his family says it's not enough. this case is raising tough questions about mental illness, homelessness and the level of threat that commuters can be subjected to. our panel will debate that balance. plus, what is president biden doing about the border problem? it seems like everything he is trying is being blocked by the courts or the aclu, so what's being done tonight with thousands of migrants that entered the u.s.? well, some are now living in the gymnasium of a new york elementary school. we'll discuss if that's the right answer. and two fishermen are going to jail for their illegal and creative attempt to reel in a winner. >> we got weights in fish. get the [ bleep ] out of here. get the [ bleep ] out of here.

>> we will get into that because obviously people take that -- their fishing very seriously. that was awesome. >> that was watergate awesome. we got them? >> my panel is ready to discuss all of that and so much more on this friday night but we begin with the new york city subway chokehold case, 4-year-old daniel penny surrendered to police this morning and was charged with second-degree manslaughter. penny held 30-year-old jordan neely in a chokehold for many minutes during which neely became unconscious and died. there's been a lot of discussion about what could have been done differently. but the city has not offered any answers. so, let's bring in my panel, we have republican pollster lee carter, one of my work husband, lz granderson. >> one of? >> joey is another one, you know, so i am a polygamist as work and old friend semiconductor barry, the editor

in chief of "glamour" magazine and another one of my work husbands cnn legal analyst joey jackson regardless of what your real spouses have to say about any of that. lz, i was sea taken by your column today in the "l.a. times" about this chokehold death. it was eye opening, because you point out that everybody says, jordan neely needed help, jordan needed help. you pointed out, he got help. i want to read the passage from your column. ten years ago he admitted himself after telling police officers he was hearing voices. three years later, police brought him to the hospital because he was suicidal. neely was on new york city's short top 50 list of homeless people in serious need of care. neely received aid from the bowery residence committee. he got help. just not the kind that might have saved his life. so what would have been the answer? >> well, i think in this country we tend to throw money at all

the problems and in a lot of situations they need more money but sometimes you need to first realize how the money is being spent, and is it being spent in the most effective manner before you add more money to solve a problem. i can go on and on and all know of tons of problems we have that throw money at. but when it comes to the mental health case you can't tell me you can be arrested 40 time sometimes each and every time you are being diagnosed or that people are aware that you have mental illness and you tell me this is an effective system. it seems as "if ever" you've been encountered in the system 40 times and your life ends up the way his did, the system needs to be evaluated more because he was involved for over a decade and still for some reason couldn't get the help he needed. >> mayor adams has suggested and, in fact, more than suggested, implemented and asked police and ems to involuntary commit people. is that the answer, lee? >> i'm not sure that's going to

be the answer. i don't think there is one silver bullet that answer all of the problems. mental health crisis is real this this country and this is an eye-opening moment where we have to think differently about how to address it. it's not just one thing, it won't be emts or police. it's a whole system that's failing and need to look at it from beginning to end. >> what the attorneys for both sides 4 -- today characterized the issue. listen. >> no one on that train asked jordan, what's wrong? how can i help you? he was choked to death instead. so for everybody saying, i've been on a train and i've been afraid before and i can't tell you what i would have dong in that situation, i'm going to tell you, ask how you can you help. >> shortly after 8:00 a.m. this morning, daniel penny surrendered at the fifth

precinct at the request of the new york county district attorney's office. >> sit down. >> he did so voluntarily and with the sort of dignity and integrity that is characteristic of his history of service to this grateful nation. the case will now go to court. >> joey, let's talk about the first part where the -- dante mills says no one on that train asked him what's wrong. how can i help you? i mean, that's a laudable goal. what would that have done? >> you know, i think what the narrative is in any case you'll have competing narratives and the narrative of the prosecution will be he did not deserve to die and that while -- >> which we all agree on. >> 100%. while people may have been uncomfortable, did it rise to the level where you had to engage in a chokehold that would take his life and perhaps if people were more compassionate, sympathetic, understanding, more open he would not have died.

the defense will say something a lot different and it will be, look, people were scared and that the marine jumped in because he was trying to preserve and protect other life. now, that may belie the facts, in as much as even if he was trying to protect, the accused, the defendant, did he go too far, and in the event you put someone in a choke lock -- excuse me, choke lock like that for an extended period of time, is that not grossly disproportionate to what threat they pose? this is a narrative that -- this will do a lot in terms of i think pulling the city apart because there are going to be two sides of the coin to evaluate this but last point, coming back to lz's good point, a time to reflect and say what can we do better? as a society, as a government, as police, as ems, as agencies that are committed to the development and growth and understanding of mental health issues and until we get to the core of that problem we might see this again.

>> well, i agree, of course, with all of that but also to lz's point in his column, the city was trying. they tried. they tried repeatedly but obviously it wasn't working. sam, how do you see this? >> nobody can watch that video without beast horrified and plays into this concept of the bystander effect which is the theory more people there the less likely you are to help and what we do know jordan while he was aggressive wasn't physically aggressive with anybody and was put in a chokehold and a carriage full of new yorkers didn't do anything. they didn't say anything, until the very end of the video you hear somebody intervening and saying, you don't want to get a murder rap. your chokehold is very hard. and you have the freelance journalist that took the video but the rest of the carriage didn't get involve or de-escalate which is hard when you are looking at new york where do you step in, but i think you can't watch it without being horrified. >> if you go back and look at

what we were doing in terms of mental health in a nation after vietnam, right, and our boys and women came back, and they weren't the same and the conversations began and then president carter comes in and within this first year of the administration he puts together a commission for mental health and they go through all of the checklists and come up with recommendations and at the end of his first term, congress, all democratic congress actually passed a mental health bill designed to have a much wider range in dealing with this issue and then in the very next administration where president reagan basically gutted it similar to what he did in california. n not putting everything at reagan's feet but many since then could have done something. if you think about what could have been had carter's -- how that plan stayed in place in the 1970s perhaps our conversations in regards to mass shootings and mental health would be different as well. >> thank you all. everybody should read lz's column in the "l.a. times" and

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the economy. 58% disapprove of how the president is handling this. even worse 52% say he's willfully choosing to ignore the issue and had to have known he was coming. he's wanted this job his whole life and ran for it a number of times. >> i feel like only three. >> immigration is an important issue and knew about title 42 and knew all these things were coming. what we need is an immigration infrastructure to get everybody here -- >> he can't go it without congress. >> he had congress for two years. >> well, had congress, i think, is a little aggressive knowing what happened to two of the democrats in the senate. >> okay, but i mean this is an issue that they could have made some kind of compromise on. this is -- the thing i find fascinating republicans and democrats agree that it's broken, we might disagree on ohio we need to fix it. republicans might talk about a wall. others might talk about a path to citizenship.

if we find something to agree on let's get it done. >> it's effective when you don't agree because you have something to point a finger at to be honest with you. listen, i believe that one of the biggest issues that this administration has is with communication and messaging and not just with the american people in general but with the democratic party in particular. you shouldn't have governors and mayors say we can't do this not if you've been talking about it since 2018 age had two year, if nothing else your party should know what you're doing. >> he could have picked up the phone. >> the governors association is saying this is the plan. these are the hotlines to call if you feel overwhelmed. let's get on this right away. instead you have mayor eric adams going, i can't do this and shipping buses in gymnasiums. it's like a mayor of a major city with a democratic governor -- >> he shouldn't have to call a hotline either. >> there's just so much discord over the issue. this is so hot button and so

many respects. you mentioned it takes congress as well to be engaged, involved. >> pass laws actually. >> that's what they're supposed to do but at the end of the day it is so politicized and there is no real cooperation. the sides have been unable to come together. >> joey, i want to ask about a law. it's not as if president biden isn't trying things. he is. here's what he came up with in preparation for title 42 ending so there was a new asylum rule they announced i believe yesterday. it says that migrants are ineligible for asylum in the u.s. if they did not first seek asylum in the country they passed through like mexico. if found they did not do that they can be removed through expedited removal and barred from u.s. for five years. that is a strict, stringent hard-line rule you would think republicans would applaud because that's something they would want but the aclu is suing

them for this. >> correct. >> they say the biden administration's new ban placing vuln vulnerable asylum seekers in grave dangers. even things he's trying is being shot down. >> feeding into exactly what i'm saying with respect to there being no uniformity how this is going to be addressed. the aclu on the left who is attacking him and laid out what the basis of the lawsuit is and on the right we have a federal judge that blocks him and in florida that, you know, they block him and so where do you go from there on the immigration issue? where do you have a consistent, coherent policy where you give the ability for people to come into the country legally? right? i just don't know where we go. >> i do think for me watching this, one of the biggest missteps this idea that these migrants seeking asylum are going to use an app that doesn't seem to be working so already seeing reports coming out of ap there's people from honduras trying to upload photos and

being shot nine times. i come from immigration through the lens of a privileged white irish woman and it's -- >> it's a hard process. >>. expectation that these people seeking asylum over a border will use an app that doesn't necessarily seem to be working seems pollyannaish. >> one of the things they did in preparation was set up this app, if you didn't apply via the app, you know, they wanted you to do that first. >> you have to get ang appointment on the app. >> it doesn't work. people don't have internet. it's in three languages. >> the images that i have seen, there's no cell tower anywhere nearby. the biggest problem, it isn't the northern border of mexico, it is the southern boarder of mexico. we can't do much with congress because politics, money, pick your poison but as an independent government, we can

interact with other governments and say what can we do? we figure out what we can do with ukraine, not equating the two. need to employ text democracy but for a lot of americans this is about protecting democracy and i think the biden administration needs to be a little more creative in terms of people -- >> sure, so do you like his idea that they first should apply for asylum in mexico since they're coming through -- >> i don't think it's being done in a genuine way but to keep people from coming to america not to help them seek asylum. >> okay. but i mean biden's responsibility is americans. >> absolutely. and i think the band-aid that we've been using for many decades, you know, whether you're talking daca, whether you're talking, you know, i forgive 5 million, you know -- those are band-aids. the question is, why are they coming here under these conditions? and we have a lot to say about that because our guns are being supplied to the cartel, and we

use a lot of drugs in this country that are illegal and coming through illegally. those are two hard-core truths we're contributing to our own illness and as long as we keep pretending as if we're not contributing to that, but some reason they're coming here and we have to stop them or put them in jails, we won't solve this problem. >> lee? >> look, i think it's incredibly complicated that -- and there is a -- i don't want to say there is not one silver bullet but so many things we can agree on when it comes to this. this is a humanitarian crisis. this is a country founded on immigration. on being the beacon of hope. there's got to be a way we can do this the right way, safely. for everyone. there's plenty of benefits for immigration but plenty of reasons we need to hold back at the same time. >> it seems to me in some respects the harsher one party can be to immigration to being strict on immigration, to keep them out, to protecting the borders, it seems to resonate politically.

so how much of this is, you know, ethic and race-based and driven? it's horrible. >> well, i mean and fear driven. i hate to say -- to go with racism first. i think that some media, other networks, for instance, and other people have been able to drum up a lot of fear. >> where is that coming from? right? the fear, we can't let them in? who's them? who do they look like. >> it goes back to earlier story. it's all about behumanizing a certain group of people, whether it's a homeless person suffering from mental illness or this group of people trying to get in the border, i think it comes back to that. >> it's dangerous and treacherous along the path. i've done my own reporting along the border. women are being raped and children being abused. it's way beyond we don't know what to do with them. >> nick paton walsh did an hour-long special and goes on

the trek with families and watches how dangerous it is. they see skeletons along the way. it is super treacherous. thank you for that. a school librarian's lesson plan, her mother's day is canceled after some call it indoctrination. what is the story of a papa bear and baby goslings have to do with that? next the librarian is here to explain.

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mother/father families then the calls for it to be canceled. moms for liberty alleged indoctrination and objected to two book, one where the main character has two dads and another about a bear who adopts a flock of goslings. here with us is that librarian caroline mickey. sorry about that from alpine -- >> thank you. >> help me understand. i understand a story about two dads may not fit for mother's day. what is objectionable about a bear adopting goslings? >> i will admit, i was shocked that that was also found to be objectionable from what i have gl gleaned, it is -- there have been two things. there was one that it was a male

because it's a bear. a male sort of overshadowing what is traditionally a female role or is a trans narrative because at one point in the book, the gosling thing momma because we know that birds tend to imprint on the first thing they see as their mother, and they say and they called him momma, even if she was a he and he was a bear, and i picked the story because it was fun. not because of anything else. >> well, that will teach you. i mean -- >> right. >> i hope up's learned your lesson, okay, because a papa bear cannot raise goslings. i hope you realize that now. but the larger, more serious point, is that this group moms for liberty, which they call themselves, i'm sure you're familiar with them, they say why

do children -- you gave parents an option to opt out. you sent, i guess, a message home saying that this is what you plan to do and you gave parents an opportunity to opt out and then they responded by saying why do children with traditional family values have to opt out and be sent to an alternative place for alternative lessons? aren't these children too young for this? what's your response to this? >> i wanted to highlight the holes that mothers play. that's kind of the point of celebrating the family. she has two dads, yes, but it's only sort of -- it's why she doesn't have a mother -- the point of the family is her school is having a mother's day celebration, and she experiences the very real anxiety of not having a mother to bring to this party, and all of this week i

can guarantee you classrooms all over the country were creating things for mother's day, and there's the very real thing that some children don't have mothers for whatever reason. i've had people, very kindly, reach out to me saying their mother passed away when they were young. their mother died by suicide. they were raised by two dads or -- i mean, those are just some of the stories that i've gotten, and children experience anxiety, and it might be the small anxiety of not knowing how to tie your shoes when all of your classmates do, and it might be the anxiety of not having someone to bring to a party that all of your classmates get to. one person who sent me an email said he didn't have a mom growing up, and why was that the

responsibility of a 6-year-old to explain that to his cla classmates when it could have been in a book like in that explains, here's one reason why a person doesn't have a mother and instead of that person who makes their lunches or who kisses their hurts or who tucks them into bed at night isn't a mother but someone else. she ends up bringing five or six family members to this party, and it takes five people for the role of one mother which was going to be what we were going to talk about. >> well, thank you for explaining all of that, caroline. really appreciate that. i want to read the statement that the school said, basically they -- the school, what i interpreted it, sounds like if you had included also a story about a mother that they might have felt better about it, maybe. here's the statement, as a school district we are committed to ensuring every student

belongs and every community is served and chose to delay a planned lesson at alpine crest elementary school as we continue to consider the best ways. the issue is not the content selected but the range of content available in the lesson that would have been inclusive to all family models. is caroline still with us? caroline, so what about that? if you had a book with a female mother in addition to the other two -- >> that was actually a part of my all and tiff lesson. i had one called "a mother about choco" also about a bear but a female bear but she is adopting other animals, so the point of the story is there's this bird and looking for a mother and all the other animals are saying, well, i don't look like you and the bear or the bird points it out to the bear and that would be silly if i 4 a beak and

yellow feathers, i'm still a bear, and also i really believe that stella brings the family does that. she has two dad but brings her uncle bruno and her aunt and nonna to this party so it talks about how it could be a grandmother. how it could be an uncle or an aunt, how it could be another family member. >> yeah, well, you've made the case here. i mean, maybe it's just all the bear content that they're really finding controversial. i don't know, but caroline, thanks. >> what does a bear know about teaching goslings to fly? >> i mean, obviously. so thanks for explaining all of that to us and good luck with your students and we'll obviously be following to see what happens next. >> oh, thank you. we made origami flowers this week and they were beautiful and adorable. >> thank you. we all feel a little better about that and my panel wants to

weigh in on this too. happy mother's day. >> happy pore's day to you. >> i want to bring in my panel. well, i mean don't we all -- do you wish your kids had a teacher like that -- >> i wished that was my librarian, like today i wish that was my librarian like today. >> i want to make origami flowers with her. >> i think she would be very open to that, samantha. but, so the moms basically are uncomfortable that there are these different models of families. >> it's ridiculous. like let's just call a spade a spade. it's ridiculous. these are books for children that show different parts of the world. there are many children as caroline said that do not have mothers that have one father, that are raised by their grandmother. it's a bear and it's goslings, like it's ridiculous that we are in the banning book era. "footloose." what music is next? it's ridiculous. >> no, listen, i think people obviously are very protective of their children, what they do,

what they listen to but at the end of the day it's a large world and we're better because we can expose children to a variety of outcome, a diversity of notions and opinions and if par parents don't want to participate, opt out. at the end of the day she was inclusive and that's what we need, inclusivity and there's a lot of nontradition. >> there sure is. we're out of time but i want to get to you because i hadn't heard from you. >> a majority agree with you. even republicans, they want to have parental choice and want the parents to say i opt out but they're not opposed. i mean the idea that republicans are supporting book banning and all that is becoming a symbolic talking point that isn't necessarily the truth. >> will you tell governor desantis that? >> look why he's dropped in the poll. he's focused on the wrong thing. >> he's not running for

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remember this fishy story? >> we got weights in fish. get the [ bleep ] out of here! get the bleep out of here! >> that is the moment when two ohio fishermen were caught cheating last year by loading their fish with leaded weights and fish filets trying to win $29,000 now getting jail time, lz. these two guys. how much, you ask for cheating in a fishing tournament? ten days. each one also has to pay a $2500 fine and serve six months' probation. back to my panel. i have never seen you laugh harder than the moment the lead weights are discovered in the fish. >> because i could understand the passion because, you know, fishermen take this really,

really seriously, right? i can sit there going how does he keep winning then when he busts -- we got you. i knew i was better than you. i totally got the vibe. it was awesome. >> that is awesome. >> supposedly jacob and chase, these two fishermen had a curious run of success and that is why there was suspicion but my favorite thing was the defense attorney saying that there will be endless public humiliation for these two fishermen, whenever they go on a date or get a job it'll be googled. i've been on enough dating apps to say there's another fishermen on them. >> and come across them? >> no, but definitely people holding big fishes. >> are you attracted to those? >> no, that's a swipe. >> actually not those who stuff fish with weights, okay, but, you know -- >> what is the crime called here? >> it's cheating for fish. it's fishy cheating. >> no.

>> look -- >> fishicide. >> rule breaking. fishicide. >> the defense attorney talks about the fact they'll be publicly humiliated for the rest of their lives. who do they have to blame for that? themselves. so the reality is -- >> their own attorney. >> correct. they'll be publicly humiliated and he's making that argument? well, your client put himself in that position. >> i hear you, brother. i keep wondering, what public. who is sitting back waiting to go, aren't you the cheating fishermen? >> all the other fishermen. >> fishermen are prone to exaggeration. it's well known. everybody knows about the fake camera angles. >> i thought you said everyone knows. >> everyone knows. >> are you married to a fisherman? >> i am but he would never cheat. he just -- they tell stories bigger and embellish.

this is criminal to him, not to me. a complete waste -- >> your husband is wildly offended they did this. >> can you imagine? >> there is a cash prize, right, so -- >> it is crafty. it's creative. i mean to think they have small fish and lead -- i am trying to figure out why they wasted any space on -- yeah -- >> maybe the -- it was used to get the fish ingest it? >> it is a fish filet. >> put the lead into the little fisher and put -- >> the lesson is do not engage in fraud, misrepresentation -- >> you're serious. >> i thought the lesson was be a better fisherman. >> if you do, whether it's fishing or some other activity where you're competing with others who are doing things the right way -- >> don't cheat. >> dhar consequences.

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it is us, pap papua new guinea, micronesia -- small, not wealthy nations -- and the u.s. it's embarrassing. also, if you look at paid leave in america, we have no paid leave nationally. 30 years ago, we just had the 30th anniversary of the family medical leave act. nothing has moved on for fa families, for parents, for mothers since then. 1 in 4 women -- >> how that is possible? >> they have to. financially, they've not set up for that. there are cases in america where if you're a corporation, if you work for a corporation or some states it's given to you. we need to have a national policy. that's something we've been really pushing at "glamour." >> when you met with members of congress, what was the response? >> we met with a lot of democrats. i feel this shouldn't an bipartisan issue. it seems it has become one a little bit.

i think we got a great reaction. we followed five mothers in the first 28 days of both to show what that looks like. most other countries in the world give up to three months, maybe more, paid leave. we in america could not even pass four weeks. couldn't even pass -- >> you were saying it shouldn't an partisan issue. are republicans opposed? what's their rationale? >> i don't think so -- you have a space now where biden has put $325 billion into the current budget for paid leave. we have seen historically, paid leave is one of the things that gets lost in the shuffle, it's the collateral damage. but the reality of it is, if paid leave -- it's not a partisan issue. if you talk to voters, everybody wants it. but we went to d.c., we brought the women, we met with chuck schumer, we met with a lot of democratic leaders that have been really pushing this,

congresswoman delaura, who's been pushing it for a decade. representative gomez, head of the dads caucus. not only are the women in politics fighting for it in d.c., you see some of the men, which is good. >> that's great. in an effort to bring awareness to this, you have a book. >> yes. >> so tell us about the book and what the point of it is. >> you know, back to that stat. 1 in 4 women in america go back to work within two weeks of having a baby. we decided it would be great to have this baby book that just -- baby look after themselves. >> get your blank together, feed yourself, look after yourself. it's this ludicrous notion that we don't think we should give parents time at home with their child. we don't do it as a nation, we don't give them paid leave. so we've given them a baby book series instead to help kids look

after themselves within two weeks of birth. >> it's really clever, obviously tongue in cheek, shows all the things a baby would have to do at home alone since the mom and dad go back to work. >> you get more paid leave in north korea than the u.s. >> wow. doesn't that just say it all. great to see you. thanks for bringing this to our attention. nearly 1.5 million children in the u.s. have a parent who is serving time. this week's "cnn hero" knows what that's like. now she's making college more accessible for students like her. >> what we're ultimately doing is ensuring that young people who have incarcerated parents are overcoming systemic barriers and also changing the trajectory of not only their lives, but their family's lives, and breaking the stereotypes and the stigma around having an incarcerated parent. >> get ready for congratulation.

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