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we'll continue to track it closely and thank you for joining us on set here this morning. >> thank you so much for the time. >> ana kaplan. thank you. and "cnn this morning" continues right now. >> the numbers we have experienced over the past two decades are markedly down over what they were prior to the end of title 42. we have communicated very clearly a vitally important message to the individuals who are thinking of arriving at our southern border. there is a lawful, safe, and orderly way to arrive in the united states that is through the pathways that president biden has expanded in an unprecedented way. and then there's a consequence if one does not use those lawful pathways. good morning, everyone. we are so glad you're with us on this busy monday morning. a lot of news to get to. the biden administration says illegal crossings of the southern border have plummeted 50% since the covid-era immigration policy title 42
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expires. so we'll take you down to the southern border this morning. also, it looks like turkey's presidential election is head for a runoff. we have christiane amanpour here to hear why this race has global implications. and aaa is predicting one of the busiest travel day weekends in decades. an expert with tips on how to beat the rush. this hour of "cnn this morning" starts right now. but here's where we begin this morning. new overnight, a bus of migrants dropped off at the official home of the vice president, kamala harris, in d.c. texas governor greg abbott sent the bus to the naval observatory after title 42, that covid-era immigration policy expired last thursday. many were expecting a surge of migrants over the weekend, but according to the biden administration, that's not what happened. here's president biden sunday after a bike ride. >> how do you think things are going at the border, sir?
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>> much better than -- much better than y'all expected. of course, the concerns were that the crossings would jump. in fact, homeland security alejandra mayorkas say the crossings were cut in half compared to earlier this week. but a word of caution on this, he says it's too early to know if the crossings have peaked at this point. cnn's polo sandoval joins us live from el paso, texas, near the border. polo, of course, the big question is what it was going to look like after it came to that, after it did expire at midnight on thursday. what have you seen so far, and what are officials there saying about their take on whether or not the numbers have actually been cut in half? >> and kaitlan, it's also important to remind viewers that the president himself said about six days ago in the west wing, that the situation could be, quote, chaotic for a while, but it's important to point out that that's certainly not what we have seen here the last couple of days, especially according to his own dhs secretary, saying
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that they have seen a dramatic decrease in the number of apprehensions. this is the number of people that are essentially going into the system for processing. alejandra mayorkas reporting about a 50% increase in that since the expiration of title 42. nonetheless, that is providing some of the folks on the ground an opportunity to get their head back up above water to try to catch up with the demand in terms of processing these individuals, because there are overcrowding issues, according to several authorities here in some of those processing facilities responsible for actually getting some of these migrants through the system under the new policy here. and then, of course, the shelter system that provide a moment of respite for these men, women, and children after the processing wraps up. and before they continue with their journey. and all you have to do is look behind me. these are human beings, these are migrants that are sleeping under the cover of red cross blankets, just outside one of the local shelters here, because they're certainly at or near capacity. with this temporary sort of respite, it's giving an
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opportunity for them to offer some of those services to those people that were processed before the lifting of title 42. the reality is, the number that is certainly going to continue to rise is the asylum seekers arriving across the country. i have heard from many of these individuals telling me they hope to make it to denver, chicago, los angeles, and certainly to migrants arriving from 200 to 300 a day. polo, thank you for being on the ground for that reporting. also, said to meet with top lawmakers at the white house tomorrow. that includes house speaker kevin mccarthy. those are really the two people who matter when it comes to what they will be discussing, as we are just 16 days before the u.s. could potentially run out of money to pay its bills and would default on its debts, causing an economic atrophy, according to experts. the president spoke to reporters as he was riding a bike this delaware yesterday, sounding
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actually pretty optimistic about where the negotiations stand. >> i remain optimistic, because i'm a continual optimist. but i think there's a desire on their part as well as ours to reach an agreement. i think we'll be able to do it. >> notable that he thinks the president are hopeful to come to an agreement. this meeting that is going to happen at the white house tomorrow does come after sources told cnn that talks were happening over the weekend between staffs of the administration and lawmakers had been productive. cnn's arlette saenz is at the white house. arlette, the big question is whether or not they are going to be able to come to an agreement. and the president did seem to make some news when he talked about work requirements. that republicans have been pushing forward on whether or not he would be open to those. what do we know about that? >> yeah, kaitlan. that was one of the areas that president biden said he is still waiting for more information on from republicans. but he did suggest that tying work roequirements to medicaid s
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something that would be difficult for him to buy into. but president biden in those comments struck this optimistic tone, as he said that he does believe that there is a desire for both -- from both sides to reach an agreement to avert a default. now, over the weekend, top economic officials here at the white house and the treasury department said that the conversations on the staff level have been constructive and serious. those played out over the course of the weekend and are expected to continue into today. now, both sides have been very tight-lipped when it comes to the contours of these negotiations. but sources have outlined a few items that are on the table. that includes permitting reforms, as well as finding ways to claw back some of those up spent covid relief funds. you heard the president there saying that he is waiting to hear more information about work requirements from republicans. but all of these types of details are things that will get hammered out as these discussions around the budget continue at the staff level today, as they prepare for that showdown between president biden and house speaker kevin mccarthy here at the white house.
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>> meeting tomorrow. biden set to leave on wednesday. we'll look at what the timing looks like. arlette, thank you. after 20 years in power, turkey's long-time leader is facing a runoff election. it could have huge implications for the nato alliance and the war on ukraine. this morning. it looks like turkish president d erdogan has failed to maintain a majority. and he continues to block sweden from joining nato, which would be a huge blow to vladimir putin. n no one better to talk to this than cnn's international correspondent christiane amanpour. two years and a very complex relationship between erdogan and turkey and nato and the united states, because they prove critical in some ways, the grand deal, et cetera. but also, they prove to be very
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difficult. >> they're difficult. turkey is a difficult ally, because as you pointed out, it's so important. nato has so many countries, but turkey is the second biggest military. and there, it's on the ground. it's easily deployable. but over the years, turkey has, particularly under erdogan, starting about 20 years ago, when he actually opened up and demo democratized turkey, then with the attempted coup against him, he cracked down and started to become a lot more authoritarian and that's what's made him incredibly unpredictable when it comes to being a rock-solid western ally. and of course, before, turkey used to be kind of the de facto bridge between east and west. but under erdogan, they have dropped their attempts to get into the eu, because there are a lot of conditions that they are
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unwilling to meet. >> what does it say to you that this is going to a runoff. that he couldn't get 50% of the vote and the referendum of him that that is? >> it is a referendum. he is -- you know, he actually went into this for the first time lagging in the votes. now, what you've seen is, the vote count has shown that he actually took more of the vote in the first round than his challenger and the challenger is, you know, part of a coalition. they banded together to see if they could, in fact, unseat him. >> but it's never before worked? >> not in this way, no. now it looks ads if the electio committee has said, he's got more. he has 49 plus percent. he has not made it across the finish line yet. to be fair, the turkish system has never had a runoff, it has only since 2018. he won handedly the first time. you can't say it's the first time in 20 years that he's faced runoff, but the first time since
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they've had a runoff that he's faced a runoff. a lot of people are learning the name kamal clich drulio. is any struggle necessary? people should be confident that we will definitely win. but what he has put forward is such a contrast to erdogan. he talked about the price of onions, filmed this video in his modest kitchen. trying to say, i'm so different from your current president. >> and touching on the thing that's motivated most voters, the cost of living crisis. the economic crisis is very, very severe. if you look at any reports that are coming out of there, lots of interviews by ordinary people who have to make a living and who have to eat. many people who have been voting akp, which is erdogan's party for years, and he has a very strong base, are saying, look, you know, we are doing worse off than our families did all of these years ago. we who used to eat chicken or meat once a week are now maybe
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doing it once a month. so that on top of the earthquake, which killed some 50 tho 50,000 people and highlighted the corruption that they have blamed the turkish government, allowing builders sks and other pay people under the table and have shoddy construction, but he's a very good and canny politician, this erdogan. and he knows and he has a very fervent base. he is a politician. he used to be mayor of istanbul. he knows what it means to be a politician. the other gentlemen was an economist. he knows exactly what has to be done to get the economy back on track, which is what people need. but some people have said his -- so far, anyway, his campaign style has not matched that of erdogan. we'll see. >> and the reason the complications for this are so profound, of course, go ukraine, at the heart of that. >> at the moment. >> the other thing we saw over the weekend, this development that was striking to me was the prigozhin, the mers their chief of the wagner group that has
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been helping russia fight in ukraine, back in january he offered to ukrainian intelligence service the position of russian troops. basically, they would have the intent of firing upon them, offering their positions if ukraine withdrew their soldiers from that key city of bakhmut which has faced such intense fighting. what was your reaction from you? >> look, is it absolutely really an intense situation, because what prigozhin is doing with his wagner group is challenging putin without challenging putin. he never attacks putin himself. but he's constantly attacking, you know, the two major military -- the defense minister and the army commander. and he's trying to put himself in a good position with putin. and he has the only troops that apparently are willing to go there. but you've seen that it actually hasn't worked yet. i mean, they've tried and they've tried and they've tried. and they have not achieved success in bakhmut. and it is a terrible meat
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grinder there. but the forces who are achieving slightly more success right now are the ukrainian troops. and you know zelenskyy's in london today -- >> i was just going to ask you about that. >> he's been on a weekend tour of eu and allied nato capitals saying, if you want us to go on this counteroffensive, we need more help, and we need the weapons you've been promising and we need more. and the british have been quite forward leaning. they have said that they want to and they're ready to provide the much-longer range missiles that the americans have so far not wanted to provide. >> and german, also, which is -- not giving them so much money. >> you know, if the nato strategy and the u.s. strategy is for putin to lose, then they have to enable ukraine to win. >> thank you. >> christiane amanpour, no one better to discuss all of that with. thank you so much. >> thank you. all right, the memphis grizzlies star -- the memphis grizzlies have suspended their
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is investigating after a memphis grizzlies star, john durant has been suspended again. this was after another incident where he flashed a gun on an instagram video. i should note that cnn has reached out to ja morant's team. it was eight months ago that he was suspended for eight games when he was seen holding up a gun at night at a strip club. this is what he told jalen rose after he was suspended that time. >> i'm big on loyalty, but, you know, like i said, i have to be there for myself. i have to put myself in a good positions and that's the decisions that i have to make. you know, decisions i felt good about. and very comfortable about that, you know, i'm going to be in a positive, you know, light now with everything. you know, that i made everything that i've learned in my two
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weeks. >> joining us now is senior nba correspondent. >> thank you so much for joining us this morning. i think the big question that comes from this is the fact that it just happened and we're seeing it again. were you surprised by this? what's your sense of it? >> i think everyone in the league because really stunned, because this just happened about a couple of months ago. and adam silver met with ja morant and told him that this cannot happen, this should not happen again. and ja morant confessed and was convincing that he understood the gravity of the mistake the first time when he was intoxicated at a denver nightclub. it came out in the investigation that the league had that he was intoxicated, he did flash a gun, and so ja morant owned up to it in the moment and everyone thought that he had moved on. but now, two months later, he got suspended for eight games the first time and i believe around the league and even
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around the grizzlies, there is concern, there is belief that this is going to be a serious suspension that ja morant will be giving this investigation, that this indeed shows that this was his gun, that he flashed over the weekend. but for ja morant, this is clearly a pattern of behavior. he was charged with anything in that nightclub. the police investigated as well. there doesn't appear to be any sign that he violated any law over weekend, but it's really a morality that he's going violate and break. and that includes with the league. because for them, conduct detrimental to the league is the reason why he was suspended in the first place and why they're looking into it now. >> and you bring up adam silver, the commissioner. he's a leader to whom that matters a lot. having known him and you cover him, do you think that adam silver will say, look, we talked once, we sat down, you made a guarantee to me. enough, right! a severe suspension, as you suggested. do you expect that's what's to
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come? >> for sure. and this will be an adam silver call. the commissioner has essentially the power to make any ruling he wants in a suspension. so with ja morant, he met with him face-to-face, i'm told, and that message was delivered to ja morant. so now that he's done it again, the league has to look at this greatly. and there's a lot of concern. again, with the grizzlies, even internally, that this will result in a serious suspension. of course, the fear would be a full season that you would lose him. but this is not similar to gilbert arenas. this gun was not brought to the arena, was not pointed at anyone, not flashed to a teammate at an larena. this was done at his own time. and it's important to note, this is not a leaked video. this is something that ja morant, people around him are openly, publicly displaying his actions. >> that's such a good point. that was the same issue two months ago when they were inside that club, that it was a video that he had posted.
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and now this is the same thing. that's such a good point. it's not leak video. this is something that he is actively parading around, he and his friends showing this. so i guess the question is, what is your sense about what his teammates think about this. i know the reaction was back in march, when he was suspended for those eight games, there a sense of frustration from what you think? >> so in march, his teammates came out pretty defiantly in the aftermath and supported ja morant. there have been no tweets. when it happened the first time, there were conversations before the incident among his teammates. steven adams, who's a veteran leader on those memphis grizzlies teams, he really approached ja morant in that locker room and said, we have to stop going out and doing offcourt behavior that could impact our on-court play. now it's the off season.
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we're not clear how much real communication there has been. this is a teammate that they're going to lose for a period of time, if the investigation proves that this was a gun that was displayed over the weekend and so i think this is just a harsh reality that memphis is dealing with. and i think there is a sense of shock within the organization that this has happened again for the second time in three months. >> and the exact on the team. and all of his teammates and people counting on him. thanks, very much. illegal border crossings have stopped significantly in the days after title 42 was lifted. that's according to the homeland security chief, alejandro mayorkas. one republican lawmaker disputing that. more next. rsv is a contagious virus that usuallyly causes mild symptoms, but can cause more severe infections that may lead to hospitalalizations, in adults 60 and older - and adults with certain underlying conditions,
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much quieter scene with about 4,200 crossings reported on saturday. homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas was on "state of the union" with our dana bash yesterday. here's a clip. >> over the past two days, the united states border patrol has experienced a 50% drop in the number of encounters versus what we were experiencing earlier in the week, before title 42 ended at midnight on thursday. there is a lawful, safe, and orderly way to arrive in the united states that is through the pathways that president biden has expanded in an unprecedented way. joining us now, cnn chief political correspondent and co-anchor of cnn's "state of the union," dana bash. dana, good morning. >> good morning, guys. >> that was a really important, interesting interview. the administration is happy the numbers are what they are right now. but you also had a republican congressman on after mayorkas, who said, look, that does not
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tell the whole story here. >> that's right. and that is why, yes, you heard some optimism from the homeland security secretary, but also, a lot of caution. >> yeah. i asked a couple of times whether or not he believes that the surge has peaked at the southern border, and he would not go there. and for good reason. because they just don't know. and he -- i'm sure, can imagine saying on our show, yes, the surge has peaked, and then suddenly, the surge gets higher and there are even more of an influx of migrants coming to the southern border. so, look, this is very much a fluid situation. and there's absolutely no clear answer and this has been the case for, you know, the decade and a half, maybe even two decades i've been covering this, particularly very, very closely when i was covering congress full-time. there will not be until there is
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a legislative fix to a very broken immigration system. and this is about the biggest political football that there is on capitol hill. and that's saying something. >> yeah. it doesn't even appear close that they could come to an agreement. we'll see if that changes, as some senators are trying to push some things through. dana, as i was watching yesterday, what i was struck by was mark green, the chair of the house homeland security committee, a republican. when you asked him about what trump said last week to me when he refused to rule out if he's re-elected, reimplementing that zero tolerance policy at the border that led to those devastating scenes of families being separated, here's what mark green said about that. >> should that policy come back? >> that's why in this bill, we were very clear, families should not be celebrated. if you look at house hr-2, it's very clear, we're not celebrating families. >> he's a top republican in the house dealing with immigration
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and he's breaking with trump on that. >> very much so. and i pressed him again, and he made very clear, that is not a policy that he supports. and i would say, kaitlan, that what the former president said to you wasn't even only that he is not ruling it out, i mean, he made the case for separating families being a deterrent, which is a very clear intentional policy. and it was just one of many indicators on very controversial policies that the former president had not changed from where he was. and it's also a reminder that, you know, a lot of republicans, we hear, well, i really liked donald trump's policies, but not his -- the sense of chaos that comes with a trump candidacy or a trump presidency. it's also a reminder that not all -- never mind democrats, not all republicans were onboard with some of his policies. this is a very stark example.
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>> let's talk about an interview on another network. of course, we watch your show first and foremost, but on another sunday show, republican presidential candidate nikki haley talking about promising that those republicans running against her for the nomination have made about, if i'm president, i would -- you know, enforce, sign, et cetera, a national ban on abortion. here's what she said as sort of the reality as she sees it for the american people. let's play it. >> for a national standard, i think we have to tell the american people the truth. in order to do a national standard, you would have to have a majority of the house, 60 senate votes and a president. we haven't had 60 pro-life senators in a hundred years. so the idea that a republican president could ban all abortions is not being honest with the american people anymore than a democrat president could ban these pro-life laws in the states. so let's be honest with the american people and say, let's find national consensus. >> what do you make of that? >> you know, it's taking me back to a campaign that i covered in
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2000 and 2008, john mccain's straight-talk express. i'm not suggesting that there is -- that there are many, many similarities between the two of them on most issues, but on this particular answer, she's trying to cut through it. she's trying to say, look, you know, you're hearing maybe some bombast from other candidates who are vying for the republican presidential nomination, but i'm going to tell you what's really going on here. and if there is an appetite for that in the republican primary process, then maybe she can, you know, gain some votes, even more than just a few votes, with that kind of talk. the question is, whether or not there is an appetite for that kind of truth telling, because she's absolutely right about the numbers. she's absolutely right that when you look at congress. i mean, we were talking about immigration. immigration is almost nothing compared to abortion and how
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divisive that is. so it is true that what she is saying, the notion of congress being able to do anything if the filibuster is still in place in the united states senate is very, very unlike. >> but dana, is that answer going to cut it, if nikki haley is on the debate stage come august, for example, and all the republicans candidates are asked, well, how many weeks into a pregnancy do you believe abortion should be banned, which is the exact question trump himself could not answer last week. i imagine at some point, she is going to be going up against someone like a mike pence or a tim scott. they're all going to be asked this question. >> you're absolutely right. and they're two different questions. one is, what do you believe, which was not part of that answer. and the other is, what do you think is doable, which is that answer. which is basically, nothing on a national level. i'm not sure if she was asked the question about what do you believe and what do you want to happen.
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and what is your philosophy. what is your ideology on the issue of abortion. and that is absolutely a question that she and every single republican and democrat must be asked. >> dana bash, great interviews, as always. >> thanks. you too. good to see you both. speaking of abortion, north carolina's democratic governor has vetoed a bill over the weekend that would implement a 12-week abortion ban in his state. but is there a chance it won't get overwritten by the republican supermajority in that state? we're going to take you live to north carolina with that exact question, next. also, a florida teacher says she is under investigation after showing her fifth grade class a disney movie with a gay character. more on that, ahead.
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republican-backed 12-week abortion bill in his state. it was at an abortion rights rally over the weekend. the state legislature there does have a republican super majority, though. and so the question now is when and if they will override his veto. cooper says a vote could still go his way, though, if just one state republican in either the house or the senate votes against that bill. cnn's diane gallagher joins us live from charlotte. diane, that's obviously the big question here, because the we that they got this republican supermajority there was a democratic lawmaker switched parties and was actually the one who voted in favor of this abortion ban. the question is, is it a reality that there is going to be enough pressure on these lawmakers, as the governor is hoping to help them when it comes to keeping his veto in place? >> reporter: well, kaitlan, i think it depends on who you ask here, but we will likely find out this week. you mentioned that one lawmaker, representative tricia coffman, she's from here in meck linberg
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county who switched from democratic party to republican party last month. there are four lawmakers, though, that the democratic governor roy cooper has basically put in the position of this public full-court press he has going against them in this pressure campaign. attempting to get their constituents to email them, go out and speak with them, try to get in contact with them to ask them to sustain the governor's veto that he signed over the weekend. now, those four lawmakers, one is a state senator, senator michael lee, and three members of the house, representatives john bradford, ted davis, and tricia cawtham. they have come out refuting this pressure campaign from the governor saying they don't think their past positions are in conflict with this current bill. but, the other two lawmakers haven't really spoken about this. when cnn tried contacting them, davis said he had no comment.
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davis is important, because he did not vote for the bill. he was absent the day that happened. and cawtham, a former democrat before she switched party, was a proponent of abortion access, so much so that she was actually a sponsor of a bill earlier this session, just a few months ago, that would have codified roe v. wade into law here in the state of north carolina. the governor has said that even though republicans have pitched this as a compromise bill, that there is so much in the bill, beyond just banning most abortions after 12 weeks, that it would essentially make it extremely difficult for people to obtain first trimester abortions, not to mention, of course, afterward. there are those exceptions for rape and incest victims up to 20 and 24 weeks. but there's also other things in there, including additional paperwork, additional regulations, and reporting requirements that they say would make doing -- performing abortions in north carolina extremely difficult.
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kaitlan? >> and the governor pointing out, it also would call for multiple in-person visits, is what he says was the erosion of women's rights there. diane gallagher, keep us updated, please. thank you. a fifth-grade teacher says she's been investigated by the florida department of education after she showed her students "strange world," that's a disney movie that features a character that's openly gay. jenna barbie says she played the movie after a day of standardized testing and that she had retained permission slips from all the parents of kids in the class, allowing the students to watch a pg-rated movie. >> i was told by every teacher and mentor at our school that our method for approval by administration of showing movies was to have a signed parent permission slip for pg movies. i had that from the beginning of the year. the whole fifth grade team had signed permission slips for pg movies. i had one student that had objection to the specific content. >> she told the school board that the movie was in no way
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sexual and tied to the current lesson plan on the environment. the parent who complained who was also a school board member said why she reported it. >> it is not a teacher's job to impose their beliefs upon a child, religious, sexual orientation, gender identity, any of the above. but allowing movies such as this assist teachers in opening a door -- and please hear me -- they assist teachers in opening a door for conversations that have no place in our classrooms. >> governor ron desantis signed legislation last year that banned certain instruction about sexual orientation and gender identity in the classroom, a measure opponents have dubbed a "don't say gay" law. memorial day travel expected to return to pre-pandemic levels this year. we'll tell you what to expect, that's ahead. when it comes to traveling, when you're riding in the car, a.m. radios may be a thing of the past. more and more cars are getting rid of that feature together in their new vehicles. harry enten will break it down next with this morning's number.
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if you are making plans to travel next weekend, we have new numbers this morning that memorial day weekend travel is expected to return to pre-pandemic levels this year. aaa releasing this forecast, just a few hours ago, as the company is predicting that more than 42 million americans, i should note, will be on the roads, train tracks, and in the skies over the holiday weekend. cnn's pete muntean is live over i-395 in washington, d.c. this morning, where many of those cars will be next weekend, as people are headed to the beach. pete, what should travels be expecting, be bracing for if this is going to look like numbers we have not seen in several years. >> you know, we're only two weeks from memorial day itself, kaitlan. but aaa says the rush really kicks off the thursday before. so ten days out, if you've not made your plans just yet. and what's interesting here is that aaa says this really foreshadows a huge summer travel
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season that kicks off with memorial day. and in some cases, it may be even bigger than pre-pandemic. that 42 million number you mentioned. aaa forecast those people that would travel 50 miles or more over the memorial day travel period. it's really only 1% off from what we saw back in 2019 before the pandemic. the good news here is the price of gas is down significantly. the average price for a gallon of regular, according to aaa, $3.35. compare that to a year ago. it was $4.45. so we're down nearly a dollar a gallon. the best times to travel, according to aaa are friday it . the real worse time is when people come home, monday between noon and 3:00 p.m. aaa tells me that you can really tweak your travel if you try to work from home to try to miss some of this traffic.
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lis listen. >> so if you can extend that weekend trip to tuesday, perhaps, or maybe work remotely on tuesday, come back wednesday, play around with your schedule to avoid those big delays because some metro areas could be seeing double traffic times, double than what they normally see. if your commute is normally two hours you could be looking at a four-hour trip. >> reporter: the vast majority of people will drive during the memorial day travel period, but the thing that's really driving the numbers is so many people who will travel by air. aaa anticipates the number of air travelers will actually be 11% greater than what we saw back in 2019 before the pandemic, it could be a record breaker, kaitlan, and it's only just the start. >> what's the sense of why air travel has increased since 2019? >> reporter: you know, the really interesting thing here is that so many people plan to travel internationally. we're seeing long wait times for passport processing. that's a sign that people are really wanting to get out and
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travel again. people feel comfortable because of the pandemic subsiding a little bit. so so many people want to travel and that is really driving these numbers. we will see as it goes forward there are a lot of things in the mix and we will see if the airlines are able to keep up with this shear volume of demand and the faa with the shear volume of demand on its air traffic system as well. >> here is hoping. pete muntean, thank you. this morning an iconic sound of american culture is closer to being silenced. it really is such an iconic sound, am radio in cars may soon be a thing of the past because more and more car makers are getting rid of the feature all together. harry enten here with the number. sad. >> sad. >> i feel like it's chart of my childhood listening to that. >> i love trying to pick up baseball games from distant areas, listening to the baltimore orioles here in new york. all right. so this morning's number is 4,185. why? because that's the number of am
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radio stations here in america. that's a lot of them. and take a look at how many people listen to am radio weekly. 47 million. now, that's not nearly as many as podcasts and not nearly as many as any radio. look at that, 235 million. so am radio is just a small portion of that, but still 47 million weekly is a very large number and we're looking at more than 80 million who listen to am radio at least once a month. when we look at the percentages, right, this gives you an idea. if they take am radio out of cars how does this really work? 54% of the daily radio audience only listen in their cars and 20% of am radio audience own a ford and so ford is one of the companies that's saying adios to am radio in tear cars. >> who does it hurt the most? >> who are are the people that hurts it the most? older americans, non-english broadcasts, talk radio is the
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most likely to be on am radio and emergency broadcasts, you know, if there's some storm that's happening, a lot of people especially in rural areas will listen to am radio to pick up the emergency broadcast. that's something it could hurt. here is the question, can you get am radio in evs which is basically what's going on. they're eliminating them from electric videos because basically there's interference from the cars. gm and other cars have it, it costs the companies to get amam radio. some of these companies don't have a streaming station or an fm simulcast. getting rid of it could hurt a lot of people. >> you love it, don't new. >> i love am radio. it's part of my childhood. >> harry is an old soul. the athletic trainer, this is something you are going to want to see who performed cpr on damar hamlin on the field, we haven't heard him him, but we are hearing from him now. we will tell you what he told recent graduates from his alma
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wonderful pistachios. get crackin' just four months ago damar hamlin became a name everyone knew because his heart stopped on the football field during that game in january and the buffalo bills training staff had to revive him. this man right here denny killington is the assistant athletic trainer for the bills who performed cpr on hamlin before a defibrillator was used to restart his heart. a.m. lin says he owes him his life. >> he has not spoken publicly since that moment, not often.
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this weekend, though, he returned to his alma mater, oklahoma state university, to give the commencement address where he talked about how his time there prepared him for that pivotal moment on the field. >> all the attention i've received is for simply doing my job has been overwhelming. i've said repeatedly that i am not a hero, but i will tell you what i was that day, i was ready. when unexpected doors open or life changes course, trust that your experiences have led you there and you will be ready. >> last month hamlin of course was cleared to play and expects to suit up with the buffalo bills this fall. so exciting. >> great. >> just be prepared. >> yes. all right. just in, turkey's supreme election council announced that a presidential election runoff is now a certainty. it will be held may 28th after candidates both of them failed to cross the 50% threshold. >> hold race. >> huge

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