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i love my childhood dog a lot. i have a photo here of cody when i was five years old. >> all right. i hear you have a question -- >> i do. i hear you love dogs. my question is why do you love dogs? >> what do you mean why? >> why? >> they're just love. they're just sweet and they smell great and they're just lovable. >> and they're -- and they're loyal. >> yes. >> they never betray you. >> that's true. >> you can come home and -- look at all these dogs we have. isn't that nice? we both got to share our love of dogs this evening and brought a smile to your face and mine as well. zblp the news continues. "cnn newsroom" starts with sara sidner now. thank you for joining me tonight as the republican presidential primary heats up. one of donald trump's former advisers and longtime loyalists is jumping ship to endorse ron desantis. first, the florida governor
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is making waves even before he's expected to jump in the presidential race. desantis today signed a bill to defund diversity bill at florida colleges, a clear response to critical race theory being taught in classrooms. he's also changing florida law to allow himself to campaign while serving as governor and to reduce transparency over state spending and travel. desantis is stepping off his turf, sending migrants to states run by democrats. and praising the marine veteran now charged in the subway chokehold death. he also barnstormed betrayal in iowa this weekend when the 45th president cancelled a rally there over weather concerns. donald trump is taking notice and taking aim at desantis. and desantis is indirectly firing back. >> we must reject the culture of losing that has infected our party in recent years.
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if we focus the election on the past or on other side issues, then i think the democrats are going to beat us again. >> trump was asked for his response in a new interview and declared, quote, i'm not at all caught up in the past. and second of all, i'm doing much better against biden than he is in the polls. and third of all, i did very well in the midterms. ron's not a winner because ron, without me, wouldn't have won. today, desantis was asked, do you think trump lost in 2020? this was his answer. >> look at the last however many election cycles, 2018. we lost the house. we lost the senate. 2020, biden becomes president -- no, excuse me. we lost the senate in 2020. biden becomes president and has done a huge amount of damage. very unpopular in 2022. and we were supposed to have this big red wave. and other than, like, florida and iowa, i didn't see a red wave across this country.
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so, i think the party has developed a culture of losing. >> joining me now is former trump adviser steve cortez. thank you so much for joining the program, steve. >> sarah, thank you for having me. >> all right. steve, you were a staunch, unwavering supporter of donald trump during the presidency and even before he was president. why are you backing ron desantis now instead of donald trump? >> sara, listen, i was honored to advocate for president trump and for the america first movement broadly for many years. i now believe that this is the next natural phase of that movement. and by that, i mean that i believe that governor desantis is the most electable, most conservative candidate out there who can both win the general election as well as govern effectively, actually implement, through discipline and focus, the most conservative policy
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agenda possible. he has proven that by his track record in florida. and for that reason, i'm taking the personal risk here of advocating for the underdog, the political renegade, the outsider, who is ron desantis. >> i have to ask you, governor dan nick sirianni has not actually announced he's actually running for pran tis. i guess the question is do you know something we don't know. has he told you, yes, i am planning to do this, or giving you any indication that, yeah, he's going to run. >> it's not my place to talk about private conversations with ron desantis. >> come on, steve. >> but i think any reasonable observer will conclude that ron desantis is doing everything that a person does to prepare to make this run for office. so, i fully expect that is forthcoming, in the coming days and weeks. and i am personally very, very excited about it. again, i believe the country is in a very miserable mood right now. that's not steve cortez's opinion. that's what all the relevant
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polling shows us. 76% people of people in a fox news poll say the economy is getting worse for their family. it will not help the country's s psych ki to have a rematch. we've seen this movie before. biden versus trump. no one likes it. we know the ending. polling reflects it. ap polling, 70% of the american people do not want president trump to run again. same number, 70% of nbc polling say they do not want president biden to run again. so, how do we break this political log jam so we can start to resurrect the american spirit? i believe the most credible way, the solution, the anecdote, is ron desantis, this young man of dynamism that took what was a swing state and turned it into a ruby red republican state. >> you said you endorsed donald trump partly because he was a disrupter, and you think
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desantis is the same thing. i'm curious what you meant by that because donald trump certainly was a disrupter. but he did not follow some of the norms of the presidency from historical past. he was a liar. he lied a lot. he was a president who stoked division and anger. and trump denies this, but there are some people who were convicted of seditious conspiracy who said they blamed donald trump for their actions breaking into the capitol. would you be okay if desantis acted in the same way as former president trump? >> well, say rah, you and i are certainly not going to agree. i do not think that donald trump is a liar. i think he is exactly the disrupter we needed -- >> he has been caught in many lies just to be caught. he has been caught lying over and over and over again. >> let's be fair. i'm here to advocate for governor desantis. give me a trump lie, and let's discuss it. >> there are too many of them to even recount. literally too many to recount. i will do this.
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let us talk about desantis then. the republican party has been best known for wanting a smaller government, a party that wants fiscal responsibility, historically has been pro-business. and i'm curious what you think about something that he has done, which is basically wanting to put a bill in place, wanting to put a law in place that doesn't allow people to look at his past record and some of the way he went money and some of the state -- using some of the state resources, like the airplane, doesn't want people to be able to look at that and be transparent about what his history was as the governor of florida. what do you think about that as a law? >> sure. well, sarah, to the first part of your question, regarding his willingness to take on big business, yes, historically the republican party was very much alive with big business. s that is not the new political party. that is not the populist movement, which is pro worker,
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pro small business. ron desantis has shown an incredible amount of business -- tried to insert itself into a cultural political question about whether or not it's appropriate to teach sexualized con t content to children. the people of florida made the decision it is not. and disney tried to flex its corporate muscle and impose its will on the people of florida. ron desantis has punched back very hard at disney and other giant corporations. now, to the second part of your question regarding -- >> let me jump in here -- >> once somebody becomes a governor -- >> i just want to jump in about disney. because republicans for such a long time were pro business, wanted businesses to be able to operate the way they saw fit and let the public decide, do you agree that that is a difference in how the republicans used to think? >> i think there is -- yes. there is -- i will certainly agree that the republican party
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of today is far more populist, for more pro worker than it was in the past. but here's the reality. big business in this country in many ways has been fused with government power, particularly if we look at big tech. but there are many other areas as well. we're big business and big government work in concert with each other. and i believe that's why this country n many ways, has really slouched into oligarchy, into the rule of the few. we have a very different vision of defused power, of the people actually ruling. part of that means being able to take on big business. the term i would use is we are pro-enterprise. we are not pro big business. we are pro enterprise. and enterprise has absolutely flourished in the state of florida because people and businesses are flocking in absolute record numbers to florida because of ron desantis has done there, what he has built. so, corporate media wants to try to pretend that florida has become some sort of unwelcoming
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back water. but the actual migration of moving trucks and companies pouring into the sunshine state tells us exactly the opposite. people have rallied to the desantis -- >> let's quickly go to the other issue we talked about, which is transparency. and conservatives have typically been champions of transparency and more transparency in government. but desantis in court cases has lately claimed executive privilege. we talked about that bill that would exempt records related to his travel from the state's robust public disclosure law. we have the sunshine laws in florida. what do you make of this? do you agree that he should be in this position to say, hey, you can't see the way i've spent some of the state's money, the taxpayer dollars, or you can't have any of his staff testify, claim executive privilege? what do you make of that? >> well, sara, listen, i think executive privilege is very important for a president, very important certainly for a governor. as you well know, a gov nar can't travel the way you and i can because of security
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measures. he has to travel nay very different way. assuming he does in fact -- >> all governors have to travel nay different way, and they don't use executive privilege. that is usually set aside for presidents. presidents do use it at times. so, why is he special? >> sara, listen, i think that governor desantis has been incredibly transparent. it's one of the many reasons why floridians so rallied to his cause and gave him an absolutely overwhelming re-election. by the way, one with coat tails. it's not just a soar to a run away, smashing landslide victory, but also lifted all other state-wide offices, first time those offices are held by republicans, first time since the civil war era in the sunshine state. the people of florida are clearly more than satisfied with the job he's doing. i believe he will continue to provide transparency as the governor of florida. >> the new bill he signed into law does not say that.
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it is not more transparent. we will leave it there, steve cortez. thank you for coming on the show. >> thank you so much for having me. appreciate it. it should be noted that thanks to republican supermajority in the florida legislature, governor desantis is armed with $16 million in taxpayer dollars -- now, a fifth grade teacher is caught in the crossfire. she showed the pg rated animated movie "strange world" after a day of standardized tests that the kids had taken. she wanted to teach the class about the environment, she says. the film features a family of explorers banding together to navigate the world. >> so, i thought that was such a beautiful message to send to my kids, work together, chase your dreams, compassion. >> but "strange world" also features disney's first ever openly gay character. and showing the movie to fifth graders may violate florida law.
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we just talked about. the teacher says a parent reported her. let's start with our panel. a lot has been said. from the city of brotherly love, philly radio host and columnist, solomon jones, sarah ellison, and former trump white house communications director alyssa farah griffin. welcome to you all. i know. take a deep breath because that was a lot. all right. let's start with this situation with disney. so, the question that was asked or put forward by steve cortez is, do you want chaos or result? but where does this fall? what we've just seen with the new law -- i'm going to start with you. >> so, here's the problem. in many veins, governor desantis is a strong candidate for republican nomination. however he's had a number of missteps. something that propelled him early on was taking on these fighting, the culture war, the don't say gay bill, challenging
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disney. we're not sure where this is going to land. but they would even consider removing jobs, 17,000 of them, the second largest employer in the state of florida. i also want to note something on the so-called don't say gay bill. it wasn't originally intended to be for kids up to third grade. but the legislature expanded it, k-12 education. my advice, having known governor san tis in the house and as governor, you do have a record to run on. more people flock to florida from los angeles and other parts than any part of the state. the culture wars will be a loser for you in the general election. they are 30% issues. they are not something that is going to ever make you president. >> desantis is famous for saying, where woke goes to die. what do you make of this? there is a huge problem when it comes to teachers and teacher shortages in florida that isn't touted and talked about.
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florida ranks as fourth worst for teacher salaries in the nation. and there are some 5,000 teacher spots that need to be filled. what do you think this is going to look like to the folks in the primary as well as the general public? because ultimately, if you want to become president, you have to win the whole country. >> you do. but first thing's first. first he has to put florida in his rear view. what i mean by this is this. when you go back and you look at governor desantis when he first got into office, you look at what he was actually doing, one of the things that people don't remember he did was he pardoned four black men from the 1940s who were falsely accused of rape through systemic racism. governor desantis approved that. it wasn't until president trump got in trouble that he began to be much more on the right. and instead of becoming a governor for all, he ran to win
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the vote in other parts of the country. the question is does he care about floridians and who had to foot that bill because it's not coming out of his pocket, or does he care about being president? >> what do you make of what he said, what he has put forth in schools in particular? and it is definitely linked with this idea of critical race theory that has been used as basically a kujal to try to make teacher's unions and teachers and the whole school system look like it's doing the wrong thing? >> right. i mean, i think that your point is exactly right which is that what made him a successful governor and what helped him win is not what has served him well in his so far stalled attempt to run, which he hasn't even started. he's sort of limping his way toward announcing his candidacy by doubling down on this mini-trump kind of position of constantly going back to the well with the culture wars. i think what's interesting is for people like ron desantis, who talk a lot about cancel culture, what he's actually doing now is real cancel culture.
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he's a government official who is denying three people their ability to say what they want in schools and to teach what they want in schools. and it's almost like a first amendment violation or at least a first amendment principles violation to keep people from being able to kind of talk openly, show a movie in your classroom to your students. i think it's sort of the opposite of what people are going to go for in a general election. and that's the way -- needs to be thinking right now. >> when you see this, solomon, and you look at what this did to that teacher, who is by the way, a first-year teacher. so, these are people that they need to come into the state to teach the kids. they're in public education. she's now got to fight with the state. she's under investigation. >> yes. >> and she got permission slips, by the way -- i heard the interview. she got permission slips from the parents, but they said, oh, you have to be very specific and say exactly what was going on in the movie. she said, i -- you know, she was at a loss. >> yeah, i think that, you know,
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ron desantis is trying to be trump in that he's trying to pick fights. but he's picking fights with the wrong people. you know, ron desantis, tough on mickey mouse. like, that doesn't work in terms of trying to get votes of people across done tricep. people like mickey mouse. so, you're fighting disney. you're fighting teachers. you're fighting people who really you should be supporting. so, with this teacher, she got caught in the middle. but it was interesting what she did because she could have gone to her union head. she could have gone to district. she could have -- swhent to tiktok and said, okay, if we're going to fight, we're going to fight. i think it's interesting to watch the way that this teacher is reacting to this, and i wonder if she was ready for this fight before it even began. >> yeah. >> let me add, i think it's also important -- i know that it's a desire to compare him to trump, desantis to trump because a lot of the antics are similar. the difference is he's in office. he isn't just talking. he's impacting lives.
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i don't see him as a little trump. i see him as big as trump because he's impacting people's lives today, not just talking about it. >> but it's not working for him. even in florida, they did a poll at florida university -- >> you're talking about voting. i'm talking about people living their day-to-day lives. there are queer people under duress in florida because that man is in office. there's a difference between chatter and campaigning and actually enacting law. desantis is in position to enact law. >> i do think he's made a huge misstep by taking on the lgbtq community. donald trump picked up many votes in that community. he's the first modern candidate who didn't get into debates over gay marriage. i think that brought in voters in 2016, probably not in 2020. you are turning off so many voters who could be with you. >> that's why desantis is down in the polls in his own state to donald trump. florida atlantic university did that poll in april.
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and if they voted right now, he would be down 39-51. >> which is really interesting. you got the last word. we are going to continue with this fabulous panel. just to note, the teacher will be on with alisyn camerota in the next hour. and coming up, if you're on the left, it's proof the conspiracy theories are bs. if you're on the right, it's proof the fbi and doj conspired against donald trump. after four years, the durham report into the trump/russia investigation is out tonight. so, where does the truth lie? we'll discuss. wait. you're a night manager and mom and birthday cake baker? so adding “and” student might feel daunting. national university is here to support all yo “ands.” national university. supporting the whole you.
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i'm waiting for the report like everybody else, but i predict you'll see things you'll never believe, the level of corruption. >> when are we going to hear from john durham? when are there going to be indictments, sir? >> i think the american people expect indictments. >> these people indicted. >> this was an attempted overthrow. like forward to the durham report, which is throwing out in the not-too-distant future. and it's an incredible thing that happened and we're lucky we caught him. >> the number one question i get from people, they'll walk up to me and says, when is somebody going to jail? >> so far nobody. the so-called durham report is out. 2016 campaign and russia should
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have been launched in the first place. it was named after john durham, the special counsel appoint bid the trump administration to, as they put it, investigate the investigators. the report concluded the fbi should never have launched a full investigation and that a preliminary one would have been, quote, sensible. even those findings are at odds with a previous justice department inspector general investigation that concluded there was sufficient justification to open the inquiry. despite multiple prosecutions, durham's probe only secured one conviction, which did not end in jail time. alyssa is back with me, along with former u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, nick ackerman. thank you. you've just been here. you're just going to stay with me. i'm going to start with you. >> sure. >> you know durham personally. >> yes, i met him once in an investigation where i
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represented a client in a white collar matter that was fact based and scientific based. >> is this report those things? is it fair? >> this report does nothing. it is absolutely a big zero. nothing is new in it. it just regurgitates the right wing view that this whole investigation was wrong. it reiterates attorney general barr's statement after the mueller report came out that donald trump was exonerated. he was not. the investigation was started for absolutely reasonable means. it came out of a meeting between george papadopoulos, who was donald trump's foreign apolicy adviser, and a diplomat in australia, where he told him he was aware that emails were in russia's possession and would be coming out during the campaign. at the same time, the fbi knew
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that the russians had hacked into the dnc, the democratic national committee's, servers. the fbi knew that this had happened, and this connected the donald trump campaign directly with that hacking. and then on top of all that, even taking that as the starting point, you had donald trump's chief political adviser, roger stone, who was dealing with guccifer 2.0, who was their fsb agent that was actually releasing that information initially, who also roger stone was dealing with julian assange, and he was telling people he was dealing with julian assange, who was then releasing the information. and then on top of it all, at the end of the day, you actually had proof that there was a russian connection and a conspiracy. but the problem was the government didn't have sufficient proof to make out a criminal case in a court of law.
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you had konstantin kilimnik, who was meeting with roger manafort -- i'm sorry, paul manafort, the campaign manager. >> but you have these nine convictions or people from the mueller investigation, nine people who either pleaded guilty or were convicted in some way in connection with the case. but the mueller report does not say that they were able to find sufficient evidence of a conspiracy to use russia, that the trump campaign was trying to use russia or had used russia to try to win the 2016 campaign for donald trump. so, alyssa, when you look at this report, it's 300 pages long. so, it is no small report. for some on the right, it is being hailed as, this is proof that donald trump is, you know, innocent of everything and he did nothing wrong. how do you see it? >> this is something where two things can be true at once. so, i, in full disclosure, only
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read summations of it. there was no smoking gun. there was no charges being filed based on this. but it does underscore what looks like partisan undermining within the fbi in this investigation that was pushed some of what was early looked into. so, the steel dossier -- >> but that wasn't really part of this investigation. it had nothing to do with it. >> it was referenced as part of it. so, i think when people in the public -- just to be fair, 50% of the country sees this one way. 50% sees it a completely different way. >> but you can't see facts that don't exist. the fbi was not relying on the steel dossier to do anything really. they weren't relying on this other investigation that was into a totally different individual that was hired by the trump -- >> and while i do think that is where the facts pan out, i do think it's important that the perception of half the country be addressed in this, which is the notion that there was some sort of partisan working within
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the fbi. >> that's just taking fake, alternative facts and trying to turn it into something real, and it's not. at the end of the day, the facts show the fact that the campaign manager for donald trump was deal being a russian agent, was providing him with very granular polling information that the campaign had on key battleground states, all of which donald trump won. it was used by the fsb in st. petersburg to micro target voters in those states and resulted in donald trump winning. the only reason why no one was indicted for that was because paul manafort decided he wouldn't cooperate. and the reason he wouldn't cooperate is because donald trump told him to hang in there because he'd be pardoned. and in fact he was pardoned. >> but the problem is we're in a place where this is tremendous distrust in the institution. some of this comes from the right by the way right now.
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traditional is the left coming after the law enforcement agencies. there is distrust in the department ask approximate the fbi. in this report coming out saying there may not have been enough to lead to a full scale investigation, that is going to gin up about half of this country. that's not my personal viewpoint on that, but that is how it's being seen. i'm even seeing folks on the right, prominent names, saying, defund the fbi. our chief law enforcement agency that deals with human trafficking and terrorism. we have to address it and talk about it because it can tear us apart. we're >> we're going to have to wrap this up. but to be fair, it has already torn this country apart in many ways. so, we'll have to sort of everybody, it's 300 pages, if you want to read it, it's out there. thank you nick ackerman for coming on and going through those details. a lot of people have forgotten, there are so many things happening. the mueller report and what happened with that.
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event for national capitol area food bank and learned that a man had come into our office with a metal baseball bat and asked for me. and when told that i was at an event, he proceeded to attack the young intern, who was at the front desk on her first day. and then when the noise and commotion became clear, others came running out of their offices, and he attacked my outreach director and hit her badly on the back of her head. one of my fast-thinking staff members offered to find the congressman and use that time to bring everyone into a safe space, call the police, and they were there within five minutes. he was engaged in altercation with the police and had to be tasered. and one of the police had a
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minor injury in the course of trying to subdue him. >> and this individual caused mass destruction in your office too. >> yeah. after he was denied access to more staff members he could hurt, he turned his furry y on office itself, a lot of broken glass, broken furniture. >> we've seen this with nancy pelosi's house, the shooting. what does this tell you about how vulnerable members of congress are? >> i think we're going to have to reassess the security we provide or don't provide district offices. so, if you have -- if you're a member of congress and your office happens to be in the federal building, the courthouse, you're going to have security. if you're in a commercial office space like me, you have no security, none. and what could go wrong with that? well, we learned the answer to that question this morning. >> congressman connolly also
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said his two aides are now out of the hospital. just minutes ago though, we got disturbing new video of the suspect. take a listen. [ screaming ] >> hey! >> that is truly traumatizing. this is security camera video showing the suspect chasing after a woman, who you hear screaming in his neighborhood, just before he left for connolly's office. again, this is before the office attack. but you see that video there. that young lady's father -- sorry, the suspect's father says he's schizophrenic and hasn't taken his medication for three months. and you're seeing the result of that in this case. he did it again. now to our next story. grizzlies guard, john morant is suspended once again, after a video of him flashing a gun
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it is not yet clear where he was or when this happened. but it comes less than three months after the memphis grizzlies guard was suspended without pay for a similar incident at a night club. after that punishment, morant issued this promise to fans. >> it's not who i am. i don't condone any type of violence, but i'll take, you know, full responsibility for my actions. i made a bad mistake. i'm going to show everybody who ja really is, what i'm about, and change this narrative. >> joining us at the table is cnn legal analyst, joey jackson along with elzy, alyssa, and solomon. first to you, elzy. you are a fan of morant. we've got to put that out there first. >> that's right. >> a lot of people are. he's young. he's on fire. he scores, i think, 22 baskets or so per game. yeah, i did my homework. but he's an excellent ball
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player. >> yes, he is. >> and yet, you're seeing this for the second time, another video coming out where he's got a gun in his hand, it appears. what is your reaction when you heard, uh-oh, this is out there again, another incident? >> well, first of all, it's important to say, lakers by 6. now, with that being said, listen, speaking of lakers, lebron james is 38 years old. we just saw him battle steph curry who is in his 30s. the league is aging. ja, you are in perfect position to take the mantle and make this league yours and you're screwing it up. i don't know what the timeline is whrks the video was taken, when it was posted, all this. but what i do know is this. there's been enough chatter around you to make corporations wonder if you're the person to invest in. i'm not just talking about the nba money. lebron james is a billionaire,
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michael jordan is a billionaire not because of the ball he played but because of the ball he played off court. he is screwing it up right now from an image perspective. >> i want to go to you, solomon. he is someone who is looked up to. he is young. he has 10 million or so followers on instagram live. in so many ways, you know, it's not just athletes, but it's just young people that look up to these guys and say wow, they look hard. they're ballers. they've got ton of money. and they've got this incredible lifestyle and they're playing ball. what does this do to those who look up to him and what parents have to tell their kids? >> i think the question is, who's he looking up to? there's a whole culture around gun violence that is in music and it's on social media, and it's in his age group. i run a non-profit in philadelphia, where we mentor guys around his age around gun violence. and some of them will tell you, like, this is part of who we
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are. this is our morality, right? and so you need someone for him to actually look up to who he respects and understands who can actually speak to him on that level. and i don't know that they've found that person yet. >> so, the nba has rules. there's a whole thing they bargain with the players about. did he break the rules? the ones i read, it didn't seem like it. >> they certainly -- they being the nba -- will say he did. he's going to have to pay. i'm concerned about john morant not as the brand but as the person. that needs to be addressed first before you can address anything else. before you can address your millions, you have to address internally. he's a young man, not to justify his behavior or conduct, but i'm hoping he doesn't just get cancelled away. i'm hoping that there's an opportunity for growth, for development, that he could be embraced and uplifted by the community. to elzy's point, which is a significant point, you know, he's the next generation, the next generation of power
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players, of power people. so, we're not as bad as we are on our worst day, sara, we're not as good as we are on our best day. the truth lies somewhere in between. but my hope is that he gets it together, that good people come around him, and he can build himself, build the brand, and build the nba to the future. >> alyssa, we have no indication because we don't know where this was taken, if he didn't break the law, is there a little bit of a double standard here. we have seen politicians wielding guns, taking christmas photos with their whole family, children holding massive firearms. >> speak on it. >> that's an interesting way of looking at it. i think it was absolutely the right decision to suspend him. i feel for him. i didn't realize how young he is. twofold. from the team looking at this from the monetary standpoint, if you're not going to get brands and endorsements, that's going to hurt the league when you're
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behaving that way. something about him the human that, when you get into these roles -- i dealt with it more with celebrities i've interviewed. but overnight, stardom, money, access, if you don't have the right people around you, you can fall into the wrong habits. you can ruin your entire career very quickly. we've got a problem with gun violence in this country whether it's a politician pose being a gun or it's this gentleman, we need to think about how that's viewed by the people who see it. i don't like seeing a politician do it any more than i like seeing it on tiktok. >> it's interesting when a politician does it it's like, yeah, but when john morant. >> there is a double standard. when you're employed by somebody like the nba, they've got rules in place. and those rules say, okay, you can't make all this money and do this. we know he is suspended again. thank you so much. all right. some people say age is just a
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tv personality, businesswoman, and snoop dogg bestie. today, she's got another title under her belt, martha stewart is the oldest sports illustrated swimsuit issue cover model at 81 years old. she is among for cover models this year, actors meghan good -- excuse me, megan fox, model brooke snyder and -- petras is the second transgender woman to make the iconic issues cover, here is how martha described her historic moment. >> to be on the cover at my age was a challenge. i think that i met the challenge. for me, it's a testament to good living, and i think that all of us should think about good living, successful living, and not about aging. i hope it gives women an
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opportunity to revisit their lives and get with the picture. >> we call that living her best life. joining us now, sports illustrated swimsuit issue editor and chief, m j day. how do you decide, how did the magazine decide, why don't we have martha stewart on the cover? >> amid two years ago, i'm sure you might remember martha posted a pretty provocative thirst trap of her coming out of her pool in bedford. i'll tell you, i never forgot that. here's somebody that really has it going on in more ways than one, let's celebrated. >> where they're any decisions made on the part of martha stewart? did she say don't do this, don't shoot from this angle, where did you have decisions like that they needed to be
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made? >> the beauty of what we do at sports illustrated is that we really collaborative effort between the talent and photographer, and of course, myself. i take that approach with everyone we work with, but absolutely, we met with martha many times going into this. it's an important moment for her, for her brand, which she represents, and we wanted her to feel her best and comfortable. rubin offended or, who is the photographer that shot the cover was somebody that martha had worked with previously, and somebody that i worked with previously. we both equally adore. she reviewed swimwear choices with us, and we talked about everything. she was a former model and so she definitely knows her way around the camera. it was a lot of real, collaborative efforts. martha knows what she wants. so it is rubin, and we all met in a beautiful place. it is a really great
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experience. >> i have to tell you, those pictures are stunning. i don't care how old she is, we like to say seasoned. i want to ask you, if you've heard any criticism or blowback, or if it's just been all grace? >> i've only heard praise, and it gives me so much joy. so happy to be able to say that because i think it's something that we, as women, you need to hear and feel and understand better. there are so many things that we've been told that we can and cannot do. here is somebody who's living her life to the fullest, and not knowing any lanes other than the ones that she creates. that's a great example for all of us to follow, and it's been really great. it's been really positive, and it's been really celebratory. it really makes me happy as a woman myself to feel that. >> throw be a lot of people that are saying about time, and she's not the first person, but
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first person over 80 years old. she looks amazing. thank you so much, m j day, the issue is a new stands on thursday. next, what caused dave chappelle's standup act to get really serious, really fast. from the army reserve. my retirement funds allow me to enjoy what i love e to do. as long as you can make an impact, why stop?
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place, it's a quote from dave chappelle talking about the crime and homelessness in san francisco. he was doing it as stand up in the city, and he told a great graphic story about somebody using the bathroom on the street and called san francisco a, quote, half zombie movie. chappelle is no stranger to speaking his mind, including sparking controversy over lgbtq issues. the problems in the city are well documented, and in fact, i traveled there for cnn's the whole story that aired this week, and spoke to a mother about a battle to keep off the streets and treat her addiction learn more about that story on cnn.com. thanks so much for joining us, cnn tonight, alison camerota is starting right now. hi, alison. >> thank you very much, and good evening, i'm alison camerota, welcome to cnn to
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