crime and homelessness in san francisco. he was doing it as stand up in the city, and he told a great graphic story about somebody using the bathroom on the street and called san francisco a, quote, half zombie movie. chappelle is no stranger to speaking his mind, including sparking controversy over lgbtq issues. the problems in the city are well documented, and in fact, i traveled there for cnn's the whole story that aired this week, and spoke to a mother about a battle to keep off the streets and treat her addiction learn more about that story on cnn.com. thanks so much for joining us, cnn tonight, alison camerota is starting right now. hi, alison. >> thank you very much, and good evening, i'm alison camerota, welcome to cnn tonight. a florida teacher showed her fifth grade class at animated disney movie and is now in trouble. apparently, the movie has a gay character

moment to see if she thinks shas forbidden at school, just today, right governorate asha law that limits how diversity, equity, and inclusion programs can be taught at the college level. he says that the dei experiment is over, and our panel will debate that. plus, daniel penny, charged with manslaughter in the subway chokehold death of jordan neely has now raised more than $2 million through crowd fundraising. why this case is the new battle in the cultural war. taylor swift calls are for security guard, how the superstar stirred up for swifties. ♪ ♪ ♪

>> you know you're good when you can sing and tell our security guards, but let's start with the legal defense for the man charged in new york city chokehold death. he's raised more than $2 million. daniel penny was charged on friday with second degree manslaughter in the death of jordan neely, and as you can imagine, some high-profile politicians are turning this tragic story into a culture war fighter. i'm here with my panel, let's bring in former democratic presidential candidate andrew yang. we also have former republican senate candidate, joe pinion. former democratic congressman, mondaire jones, and carried champion, here's the current host of the carrie champion show. it's great to have all of you here. daniel penny has raised $2 million, and i went on to the fund raising site, andrew, and these are small dollar donations. some people are contributing $10, some people $50, but people that believe that he did

the right thing, it's hard to know if he did the right thing. all we have seen is that clip of the tape. somebody's cell phone tape. we don't know what happened prior to that, but i'll tell you what he says, what his lawyer says, daniel penny is a 24-year-old college student and decorated college marine veteran facing a criminal investigation stemming from him protracting individuals on a new york city subway train from an assailant who later died. we don't know if he was in assailant, we just don't know enough at this point. what are your thoughts? >> he's going to stand trial. the facts will come out, we are a country that believes in binding the facts and saying to somebody, they should not be -- they should be innocent until proven guilty by a jury that will examine this. it's an unfortunate reality that our country is now so polarized, and a lot of people just made up their minds on one side or another, saying that he's clearly guilty or clearly innocent, i'm personally reserving judgment until we find out what actually happened. >> it did not take long,

congressman, for some politicians to jump in here. i will read you what governor desantis said. we must defeat the source founded dea, stop the criminal agenda, take back the streets for law-abiding citizens, we stand with good samaritans like daniel perry, let's show this marine america has got his back. how does he know? >> he doesn't. ron desantis is a psychopath, using every opportunity -- >> he is. we'll talk about other efforts to be investigating teachers. >> i think psychopath is generally reserved for people that murder people, i don't know if he's in that category. >> he's going to war with disney, which is something that not even his own constituents want. i think there's something very off with ronda santa's. on this point, and with andrew, i think we should wait to see what comes out at trial, as it's been reported, the person that was killed on a subway train is somebody who was

unarmed, and who had not threatened any physical harm to anybody. >> we don't know that either, by the way, we don't know what happened before that videotape starts. we don't know if he was being threatening. there are some reports that he was hostile, other reports that he was acting the way that he has often acted on that train. >> there are reports that he talked about being hungry and not being afraid to go to jail. there's no reporting that i read thus far that suggested he was threatening to physically harm anyone else. but that's the point of the trial. i think we should all reserve judgment until we see what happens. in america, you're still supposed to get due process before you get convicted. >> we talk about what we don't know, but what we do know is that we had a mentally ill man and had a history of mental illness on the train. probably a result of a world in which the ignore the people that are mentally ill, and especially in public, we don't pay attention, them we act as if they're not there. i'm sure that what was wrong with nearly had a long history before he came across danny.

here's what i suggest. yes, we should wait to reserve judgment, but what kind of where do we live in when people walk roster -- because they feel like they want to protect people? we still doing that? is that allowed? that's vigilante justice, if you ask me. that is my opinion on it. i would not dare want to see somebody, and let's say, it killed on the train in public. i wouldn't want to see, that that's even more disturbing. i don't think he's a hero. in, fact i think that i know that he probably in his mind that he was doing the right thing, but 24 years old and here you are taking somebody else's life because you think that you're the only person in that moment to protect and serve? >> he had them in the chokehold for 15 minutes. >> there is no way we should be doing this. >> i think the reason why there is unrest, the reason why there will be a trial, is because i think that it's reasonable, as i said before, that you have a conversation around, was the urge to respond commiserating with the length of time in which that hold was applied,

and should he have known that if he held him in that hold for a certain period of time that they would've resulted the young man's death? that's a reasonable conversation. i also think that we should pause to say that if we're going to talk about the high-profile divisive nature of our politics, and the way that we castigate those people should not also lead into that type of hyperbolic rhetoric. here are the facts, i think that we are people who sympathize with the young man who raised his hand to serve this mission, who are giving them the benefit of the doubt, where others have not given him the benefit of the doubt because we find ourselves in a perilous case, where yes, there are times where we have gone on subways in public where people are acting in a manner that can be perceived as threatening, and we ask ourselves the question, react or do nothing? have we reached a point in time where all we can do is hold up a cell phone and filament? yes, i think that that is, again, the precipice on which this case will be rested upon. >> here's new sound from daniel penny's attorney who is on cnn.

listen to this. >> somebody entering the subway system, a closed subterranean container where the sort of tools that we de-escalation and avoidance, if you're standing it time square in cities acting erratically where you say i'll just keep my head down or turn the other way and walk away, not really an option on a subway platform. >> everything that we've seen so far, and i'm confident that everything it will come out will show that my client took reasonable steps to restrain somebody. >> andrew, there are other videos that we haven't been privy to, but i was really understand from the reporting, that the d.a. has. >> again, that's why we need to wait until the facts come out on trial. to joe's comments, there have been instances where we've seen the social media video, and the ask has been, why haven't people done more? somebody's getting beaten or

threatened, and there are people to just bust out their phone and are recording it that you think, should they have done something? there is this decision threshold, and also this was a trained combatant, soldier, marine, the standards that he's held two or higher. i agree that there would be instances during which if somebody intervened, and i'm not saying that this is the case here, necessarily because we are going to find out a trial. but there have been instances where if somebody intervened, we would say that that was appropriate. >> i don't want to gloss over carey's point, which is that it's a young man that is dead here. we get so caught up in taking a -- or trying to talk about who's being a truly provocative person in their language. you focus on the effect that there are families, a person that is dead, who was failed by the city of new york many times. and so part of this entire conversation about the politics has to be about the allocation

of resources. you want to help everybody all the time, but when you look at somebody like this young man, clearly there are young people here today they're not getting the type of help in assistance that they are clearly entitled to and could've prevented a tragedy like this. >> thank you all very much for those perspectives. coming, up the florida teacher being investigated for showing her fifth grade track a animated disney movie. turns out, with a gay character in a. that teacher is here next, to explain. was also the first time your profits left you speechless. at the counter or on the go, save 20% with the lowest transaion fees and keepore of what you make. start saving today at godad.com hi, i'm lauren, i lost 67 pounds in 12 months on golo. golo and the release has been phenomenal in my life.

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under investigation for showing a disney movie to her fifth grade class. the animated movie's called strange world, and it's about a family of explorers that also includes a teenage character named ethan, who is gay. >> any sweethearts waiting for you back home? there it is. who is it? >> it's no one. >> his name is diabolo. i like kamala. i just don't know how to tell him? >> i want to bring in gianna barbie, that fifth grade teacher in hernando county, florida. miss barbie, thank you, is that the moment? does it get worse, more controversial from there? is that just a clip? >> i think that is the worst part of the entire movie if you're going to talk about worst, in the sense of homosexuality. >> okay.

and then so why did you show that movie to your fifth grade class? >> if you could ask anybody in my fifth grade class, you would know that i'm a huge earth activist. i tell them all the time the earth is alive and you need to breathe in the trees. every time we go to recess, so many times five or ten pieces of trash and the scattered, run, they come to me and it just so happens that after that exam this morning in the afternoon and most of the teachers played it, remember this movie where they got to not just connect to the earth, but you got to see the earth as their earth, this living, breathing alive thing. and treating it with love and kindness was what it needed to grow and to blossom, into he'll. my students, that's what we were learning about in the science section at the time, the earth's ecosystem, how plants and animals and why fall can connect. they grow and so i was like,

this is the perfect movie. this it will show them everything that i've been telling them all year about breathing with the juries and picking up the trash, this is why we don't kill the bugs. >> little did you know that you would be investigated as a result. did you? everything you said, i totally understand. i get what that movie would appeal to you but did you know that there was a gay character in a? >> i did. i'll be totally honest, i did, but i was raised in a way that that is not a big deal to me. in my class, i have students that have told me way before this that they are part of that community. it is not -- its love. the fact that it's love being spread, the world doesn't have enough of that. >> i hear you. there's nothing obscene, of course, it is a pg movie. all the parents signed permission slips, but you do know that in florida, in

elementary schools, and maybe even high schools, you're not allowed to introduce the subject of homosexuality. did you know that you are breaking the rule? >> i did not know that. i didn't know that that is a thing. i just found out today that they increased it to my level, and i guess high school on april 30th. and to the college level, which is just insane to, me those are adults. anyways, i had no idea, i had no idea whatsoever that this was such a big deal. i didn't feel like it is a big deal until it is brought to my attention. the students have went to one devices, they talk about these things all the time. they shut down much worse in class, and so to me is just a common theme that people talk about all the time. you see them talking about it all the time. i honestly don't follow the news like that. or how time for that. >> it's funny you say that, because we did to this story when it changed. first, it was pre-k through third grade. as you, say at the end of april, it changed all the way through high school.

but i take your point, you hadn't followed that point. there is no edict sent out from the governor's mansion, or a memo that i should say, that you read, let me just play for you, miss barbie, with the parent who objected to this -- she also happen to be a school board member. let me play for you when she says was the problem. >> it's not a teacher's job to impose to believe so planted child. religious, sexual orientation, gender identity, any of the above. and allowing movies such as this, assists teachers in opening a door, and please hear me, they assist teachers in opening a door for conversations that have no place in our classrooms. >> okay, your response to that? >> yes, i just think, i feel for her because she is obviously never volunteered in the school, and especially at this level. our students that door that she's talking about?

it's been opened. these students have 1 to 1 devices. the students are talking about things way behind this. this door that she is talking about, it has been open. these are common conversations that i have to tell my students, wait, we are getting a little bit too much here where you need to calm down. i have students who come to me and say i think i feel that way. you have to say as a teacher, that's wonderful, and you move on. with their missing is that this disney movie is not opening a door. disney does not open doors to these conversations. disney represents the melting pot of the public education system. disney represents the melting pot that america is supposed to be. that is what people don't understand. we are having all of these views where we are putting hate towards these things, but disney represents the pure melting pot, the land of the free because of the brave. now it's becoming that you are free but not if you're going to talk about that so you are free to read but not if it's going to be that --

>> i hear you, and we only have a few seconds left. what is your plan? your first year teacher, are you going to continue being able to teach? do you want to? >> not in the public education system. i'm going to go work on a curriculum degree in my own education system because florida needs to change. i want to be that change. i cannot from inside of these walls. >> jenna, thank you so much for your time, we really appreciate you telling us about your story. obviously, we will be watching the investigation, and whatever happens next. thank you so much, i want to bring in my panel. thank you. i'm going to bring in my panel now. all right, congressman, do you want to comment on that or talk about what governor desantis -- >> was great was it? >> fifth grade. >> i thought it was fourth. i'm heartbroken. she is talking about how she has some members, were students that think they might be members of the lgbtq community and now what they are seeing from that governor, and from

the state is the complete erasure of acknowledgment for the existence of people that are members of the lgbtq community. it sends a really dangerous message to young people who are still figuring things out, they have a ways to go if they're in that class for, example. but who might be deeply insecure about what they are feeling, and might even take to hurting themselves if they are not affirmed in a way that makes them feel like they can be who ultimately they want to be. >> carey, something else happened in florida today. governor desantis signed a bill into law, and she referenced it, also limiting the teaching of diversity, equity, and inclusion at the college level. in all state colleges and universities, that curriculum now has to be limited as well. >> alison, i'm sitting here,

and as we listen to this teacher i am trying to compose myself, because i can feel me getting more involved, and more of a lack of a better term, angry, because since the beginning of, time erasure is what we've done in the public education system. history has already been that story. i'm speaking as a black woman that knows that our history, as african americans have been erased throughout our contributions to the society. for whatever reasons, we still sit and allow it, and we are distracted, we think it's okay. i tell the story, a dear friend of mine, i'm babysitting her daughter. and by babysitting, i'm saying that i'm taking her, out she 16 years old, and she wants to go shopping for the day with her aunt, in theory. we go shopping, and i turn to her and say, so you have crashes on any boys? you're 16, now you have to be dating, right? you have to be dating. she looked at me, put her head down, and she said, i like a girl, if that's okay. the shame that she had because she liked a girl who was so sad

to me. it broke my heart. she felt like she could not tell me. the fact that we live in the society where we are having this conversation right now breaks my heart. you talked about it, we are not allowing our children to be who they are. do you not think they know the difference between gay and homosexuality on these funds? >> and that was her point, they are allowed to use -- >> their allowed he's the phones. at the college level, you're saying that you can't talk about be what is right with diversity and inclusion? it is so disheartening to me. we are erasing the fact that people that were marginalized contributed to the society, and we think it's okay. i think about my niece because she is afraid to tell people what she wants to be. why do we live in that world? >> i'm somebody that doesn't think the government should be dictating what these colleges are and are not teaching, certainly for political points. we all know the context here which is ron desantis who's running for president, and he

thinks that if he takes this stance in terms of florida's public colleges and other schools that he will be a more formidable opponent against donald trump. he thinks this is what the base wants. with the base now seems to desire is this polarized ideological that's versus them, and it is truly unfortunate for all of the kids and college students, and educators who are getting caught in what we can clearly see is just political ploys. >> on the flip side, what he's saying is that the ei as been an experiment, which i think it is in terms of the teaching of an, and he's saying that in florida, that is over. do we have seen from the government? go ahead. >> if you look at the way this has actually been implemented across the country, dei is better viewed as standing for discrimination exclusion and

indoctrination. that's got no place in our public institutions. this bill says that the entire experiment with dei is coming to an end in the state of florida. >> it's interesting, joe, he spelling it out. if you are college student applying for schools, which for all potential college students across the country have just done, you kind of self select if you want to be in florida. if that's the rule, do you think that this could lead to students self selecting each of their own echo chambers and not having as much cross pollinate -- >> i think that's already happening. i think the sad reality here is that you have legitimate concerns by some parents when you're talking about pre-k to third grade, and now they've been conflated with what i call is a mission that is more political than it is functional and human. you end up with sloppy legislation that becomes

impossible for teachers, for people in schools to actually manage, to the point where even in the disney movie this rated pg can lead to a teacher potentially saying that i don't want to be in this profession anymore. if we know that we need more teachers, better teachers, more support for those teachers, then, yes i think that it's perfectly okay to talk about the concerns that some parents have as you see in the state of washington, trying to say that we should transition tech -- as we saw that article in the new york times, talking about that and juxtaposition between some people that feel as if that might be beneficial for the child, versus somebody that doesn't think the school should be a place to keep secrets. overall, in the, and what has happened here, i think is a lost opportunity for a desantis to say, hey, guess what, we want to have universities to deal with the fact that we have a 12% decline in african american enrollment over the last two years, and here's how we're going to reallocate these resources to address that. we want to deal with the fact that we have black students who are 76% not proficient in

reading in certain parts of the state, here's our plan to allocate resources to do that. for me, if it's going to be the florida education plan that becomes the american education plan, i think that many ways and forcibly, this has been more about the caucuses in iowa than it has been about the people that call home the state of florida. >> i will quickly say that on the subject of conflation, it's so dishonest to suggested this teacher is trying to impose a certain agenda on the students. this is a disney movie that simply reflects the world as it is. there is no you have to be this way, because there happens to be an lgbtq character in the film. it's so dishonest, and i sometimes feel like people are strategically using these opportunities at the local level to further their own political success. >> really? you don't say. >> [laughter]

thank you, friends. >> it is fifth grades. these are not kindergartners. >> they are aware. >> thank you all for sharing your personal stories about that, and as well, i really appreciated that. three quarters of americans are lonely, can i help? where is a i a dangerous jeanne just waiting to get out of the bottle? that's next.

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>> our country is facing a loneliness epidemic. here's the surgeon general, dr. vivek murthy on that. >> this is one of the most disturbing things about loneliness and isolation, the impacts of our physical health is profound. social disconnection, with the risk of heart disease, risk stroke, and premature death, that is on par with the risks you see that smoking daily. >> on par with smoking observe your health? luis is on the decline, in the pandemic, highs however 17% of

americans report feeling loneliness, for report, a lot of the day. that's an estimated 44 million americans. what can we do about it? well, a.i. has had some suggestions, but will it help or hurt? we told google recently, we told their a.i. chatbot barred that we were feeling really lonely today. , and we asked to do it to help, this is what it said to us. it says, it's telling me to reach out to friends and family, get involved in the community, take care of myself, and try to seek professional help. that all sounds great, right? andrew, let's get the panel. andrew, that sounds great, but what i don't like is when the chatbot tells me that it's in love with me. some chatbots do? and for loneliness, -- >> you see that movie, alison. >> we've seen the movie, but it happened in real life. the new york comments have started talking to the chat bot and it's had to leave its wife.

>> right. [laughter] is that a problem, injury? >> a. i will do a lot of great things, a lot of not-so-great things. i will say that the early data has shown that a.i. therapists and chatbots have actually made a huge difference for a lot of early adopters, including in particular, military veterans. it turns out that military veterans are as or more comfortable talking to a therapist that they know is not real, as opposed to human therapist. you will be a great fit for some people, but not everyone. >> okay, that's fascinating. i'm happy, that's heartening to hear because some people -- it's like reading a self-help book. it's more interactive. >> it's genuinely going to help a lot of people. >> carey, where i get stuck, documents suck, or robots sucked? which isn't? >> how many times have we sat here and said, i don't feel

like being bothered. the or lawyer i get, the more i realize that i'd rather be at home by myself, and i would like to -- >> [inaudible] [laughter] i'm including myself. >> but does that mean, carry, if humans sack, would you want to have a chat bot a.i. companion? you'd be comfortable with that? >> look, here's the thing. i agree that we all need some sort of therapy, somebody to talk to that human it can get you real life situations, real life experiences, real life feedback. i don't believe they should be the end all be all. at the end of the day, i get why people, and you mentioned veterans, get lonely, and i want to talk about something that makes you feel seen and heard. human sector -- they bring all of their drama to you and i just want to have a conversation. i can see that there are benefits, but i can also see the downfall. i'm not at home, just talking

to barred, but that's all i can say. i could be later in life. >> here's where i'm worried against ac. there's a microsoft powered chatbot in china that currently has 660 million users worldwide. the body was trained to learn emotional skills before intelligence skills with the intention that users can see the chat bot as their friend. it is working. here's what microsoft says. quote, well i know she's not real, many price for as a dear friend, even a trusted confidant. sometimes the line between fact and fantasy blurs, and here's where i get nervous, she gets love letters and gifts, and not too long ago, a group of fans asked her out to dinner, and even ordered an extra meal in case she showed up. i can't tell, congressman, if this is nice for lonely people, or a dystopian nightmare. >> it's like a black mirror

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morant suspended for team activities after a second incident involving a gun in two months. instagram live video from over the weekend appears to show morant in a car, brandishing a firearm while missing to music. he was suspended from the league for eight games in march, after he was seen flashing a gun in a denver area nightclub. cnn has reached out to a representative, to the memphis grizzlies, in the nba for comment. we have not yet heard back. carey, what are we to make of this? >> first of, all i'm curious, we'll have guns in this country, right? >> they're legal, we can use them, that's just the way in which we learn the cycle. so i wonder, i ask you this question, i have my thoughts, but i'll ask you all as a panel. if he was a good enthusiast, and he was suing the guns as somebody that was really well informed, on perhaps a pistol or rifle from the 1800s or 1920s, the way in which he shows us his guns on instagram, would that be more acceptable?

i'm curious, what do you think that would be more acceptable? >> we've got republican politicians posing in front of christmas trees with their families, brandishing assault weapons. your point is well taken. i still think that he should not -- >> he's absolutely wrong. >> in the same way that those politician should be chided from what they are doing. >> i feel like ja morant has been given an opportunity to see changes circumstances. first of all, he doesn't come from a rough upbringing. he comes from middle class family, both parents in the house failed, all the stat you want to add to why he's doing this don't seem to fit the actual person. i think that as of late, he found himself in circumstances where he wanted to be something that he wasn't. it is really unfortunate, but there have been so many incidents living up to the very first, the very first incident of him flashing his gun. it was allegedly trying to fight a 17-year-old, bringing -- then it was going to the mall with a group of guys, threatening, then you hear all of these unfortunate stories

about how he's behaving, as if he is some sort of gangster. i am fed up with ja, i've all be honest with you. i'm done with ja in terms of supporting him, and listening to what he has to say. he no longer has an empathetic audience with me. because you make entirely too much money, you're a star, a superstar in this league. you have an opportunity the people wish they could have. you have a talent that god has given you, and given you -- and yet still, for some reason, you want to go on instagram live with a gun. that's the last thing you should be doing, and then you tell us in the interview, i'm sorry, i wish i would've done a, i've been there before about 48 hours, i know what i did wrong. i'm back on the court, i'll be a better person. now you can trust you. you're more associated with guns than what you do on the court. how can we deal with that? >> did he do something wrong, joe, and your eyes? >> the nba is a multi billion dollar entity. ja morant, currently, he's one of less than two dozen people

to ever have the signature shoe from nike. he's this close from being a handful of people that are symbolic with the league itself, and to karen's point, he's somebody with a potential 231 million dollar deal, 100 and $90 million guaranteed. just on this deal, not including what he would get from the next deal, i promise you that if, god forbid, he were injured, and he was never able to play another game, it would be less painful for the people that love him then watching the nonsense he's doing right now. if you think of all the people they would give the right arm and leg to have half of the opportunities that he's had, all those young black man, yes, those young people that look up to him that are looking to him for an example, and to have him engaging in the behavior that we beg our children not to engage in, when he has all of the personal advantages in the financial advantages.

it's heartbreaking then at the same time all i see is a young man crying out for help, and it has to be time to say, i don't care if he's -- if the backup was in the closet for a, week a, year two years, you have to do something to change your life. you have to choose to take advantage of all of the gifts and opportunities the god has put before you. >> how can we do tolerated from -- as the congress men were saying, they had politicians. >> we do ja a disservice, we did this conversation a disservice. there's a fundamental difference from somebody standing for a post a picture of a christmas card in their own home, and a man that is brandishing his weapon in a car, who's been seen potentially, allegedly brandishing a win weapon in malls. picking fights with people in public, every time there's an alleged order for occasion, whether it comes to fruition or, not apparently a gun is involved. his behavior is a real problem,

and i think that that's problematic. >> and these political figures don't work for the nba, multi million billion dollar enterprise, when you suspended, it was a very conduct detrimental to the lead. it's bad for the lead, and the nba is going to come out hard as a result because he got in front of the cameras and i'm sure the commissioner said, look, i'm a changed man, they won't happen again. and then it happens weeks later. >> i agree, there should be different incentive structures. if there were no repercussions from the nba, i think we would still be judging the get behavior from ja morant, and i do worry about the disparate treatment between how they're treating him, any politicians on one side of the political spectrum i like, open carry with no licenses or background checks. >> what if you do own? >> in theory, if you wanted to brandished the gun from the privacy of the passenger seat of a car, then like, why is that per se out of context? >> but what's the context? and by the, way i'm playing devils advocate here. they're out of, season he's at

home. >> the difference is the legacy of the incidences leading up to this where you had an opportunity where he jeopardized his entire season. him, his family, it's on the line. he can't do this, he just can't. >> thank you all very much, next taylor swift telling security at -- and she sings her way through the whole thing. ♪ ♪ ♪

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