okay. what's the answer the same? >> she would absolutely. we have two little toy dogs on the bed, shamrock and monkey. so once a shift to, once a cat, and we love those dogs, even though they're not. real but i actually even have a photo here right here of cody when i was five years old. >> all right, i hear you have a question. >> i do. i hear you love dogs. i guess my question is, why do you love dogs? >> what do you mean why do i love them? >> why? >> they are just loved. they're sweet, they smell great and they're just lovable. >> and they are loyal, they never betray you. >> that's true. >> you could come home and -- look at all the dogs we have. i isn't nights? we both got to share our love of dogs this evening. >> thank you very much. >> all right, the news continues, cnn prime time, starts now. >> thank you anderson, thank you for joining me tonight as a republican primary heats. up what a dog from former

advisers and longtime loyalist is jumping ship to endorse ron desantis. and he will join me in just a moment to explain why. but first, the florida governor is making waves even before his expected to jump into the presidential race. desantis today signed a bill to de-fund diversity programs at florida colleges. their response to critical race theory being taught in classrooms. he is also changing florida law to allow himself to campaign while serving as governor, and to reduce transparency over his state spending and travel. desantis is also stepping in to ward off his turf, sending migrants to states run by democrats, and wading into a new york city case praising the marine veteran now charged in a subway chokehold death. he also barn stormed a trail of

iowa this weekend, where the 45th president canceled a rally there over weather concerns. donald trump is taking notice, and taking aim at desantis. and desantis is indirectly firing back. >> we must reject the culture of losing that has infected our party in recent years. if we focus the election on the past, or another side issues, then i think the democrats are going to beat us again. >> trump was asked for his response in a new interview, and declared quote, i am not at all caught up in the past. and second of all, i am doing much better against biden than he is in the polls. and third of all, i did very well in the midterms. ron is not a winner, because ron without me would not have one. today, desantis was asked, do you think trump lost in 2020? this was his answer. >> look at the last however many election cycles, 2018 we lost the house, we lost the

senate, 2020 biden becomes president -- or no excuse me burleson in 2020. biden becomes president, and it's been a huge amount of damage, very unpopular in 2022. and we are supposed to have this big red wave, and other than florida and iowa, i do not see a red wave across this country. and so, i think the party has developed a culture of losing. >> joining me now is former trump advisor steve cortez. thank you so much for joining the program, steve. >> sarah, thank you for having me. >> all right. so steve, you are a staunch, on wavering supporter of donald trump during the presidency, and even before he was president. why are you backing ron desantis now, instead of donald trump? >> sarah listen, i was honored to advocate for president trump, and for the america first movement broadly for many years. i now believe that this is the next natural phase of that movement. and by that i mean that i believe governor desantis is the most electable, most conservative candidate out there who can both win the

general election, as well as govern effectively, as actually implement through discipline and focus, the most conservative policy agenda possible. i believe he has proven that by his track record in florida, and for that reason i am taking the personal risk here of advocating for the underdog, for the political renegade, the outsider who is ron desantis. >> so have to ask you, governor desantis has not actually announced that he is actually running for president. so i guess the question is, do you know something we don't know? has he told you yes, i am planning to do this, or given you any indication that you, he's going to run? >> well, sarah, it is not my place to talk about private conversations with governor desantis, i will let it make that an end to this. i think -- i think any reasonable observer will conclude that rhonda sanchez is doing everything that a person does to prepare to make this run for office.

so i fully expect that that is forthcoming in the coming days and weeks, and i personally am very excited about it because, look, the country isn't a very miserable who right now. that's not steve cortez's opinion, that is what all of the relevant polling tells us. for example, 70% of the american people and fox news poll say the economy is getting worse for their family. so we are in a very depressed state in the country right now. it will not help the country's psyche, it will not have the conditional policy standpoint, to every match of the 2020 election that almost nobody wants. we have seen this movie before, biden versus trump. nobody likes it, we know the ending, and polling reflects that. again, ap polling 70% of the american people say the do not want president trump to run again. same numbers, 70% in nbc polling say they do not want joe biden to run again. so how do we prevent that rematch? how do we break this a political logjam so we can start to resurrect the american spirit? i believe that the most

credible way, the solution, the antidote's governor wants desantis, this political rising star. this young man of a dynamism who took what was a swing state and turned it into a ruby red republican state. >> you said that you endorsed donald trump partly because he was a disruptor, and you think desantis is the same thing. i am curious what you meant by that, because donald trump certainly was a disruptor, but he did not follow some of the norms of the presidency from historical past. he was a liar, he lied a lot. he was a president who stoke division, and anger, and trump denies this, but there are some people who were convicted of seditious conspiracy who said they blame donald trump for their actions, breaking into the capital. would you be okay if desantis acted in the same way as former president trump? >> well sarah, you and i are certainly not going to agree. i do not think that donald trump is a liar. i think he was exactly the disruptor that we needed. >> well he has been caught in many lives, just to be fair. he has been caught lying. >> okay but let's be --

fair >> and we have to care about -- that >> i'm here to advocate for governor desantis. but give me a trump lie then and let's discuss it. >> there are too many of them to even to recount. literally too many to recount. but i will do this. let us talk about desantis them. the republican party book has been best known for wanting a smaller government, a party that once fiscal responsibility, a historically has been pro business. i am curious what you think about something that he has done, which is basically wanting to put a bill in place, wanting to put a law in place that does not allow people to look at his past record in some of the ways he spent money, and some of the state resources being spent like on the airplane. he doesn't want people to be able to look at that and be transparent about what his history was as the governor of florida. what do you think about that as a law? >> sure. we'll start to the first part of your question, regarding his willingness to take on big business. yes, historically the republican party was very much

alive with big business, but that is not the new republican party. that is not the patriotic, populist movement was a pro worker, which is pro small business. and so ron desantis has shown an incredible amount of courage in taking on the oligarchs and their power, particularly disney, the most powerful company in his state. it tried to insert itself into a cultural political question about whether or not it is appropriate to teach sexualized content to extremely and children. people of florida made the decision that it is not, and that is not good education for variant children. and disney tried to flex its corporate muscle and impose its will on the people of florida. rhonda santos has punched back very hard, and at other giant corporations. to the second part of your question -- >> let me -- >> once somebody comes -- >> let me quickly jump in about disney. yes the question is since republicans for such a long time were very pro business, wanted business to be able to operate the way they saw fit,

and let the public decide. do you agree that that is a difference in how the republicans used to think? >> i think there is, yes, i will certainly agree that the republican party of today is far more populist, far more pro worker than it was in the past. but here is the reality, big business in this country, in many ways, has been fuse with government power, particularly if we look at big tech. there are many other areas as well well big business and big government work in concert with each other. i believe that's why this country in many ways has really slouched into oligarch, into the rule of the few. we have a very different vision of diffused power, of the people actually ruling, and part of that means be willing to take on big business. i guess the term i would use to as we are pro-enterprise, we are not pro big business. we are pro free enterprise. and by the way, enterprise has absolutely flourished in the state of florida, because people and businesses are flocking in absolute record

numbers to florida, because of what ron desantis has done there, because of what he has built. so corporate media wants to try to pretend that florida has become some sort of unwelcoming backwater, but the actual reality of domestic migration of movie trucks and companies pouring into the sunshine state, tells us exactly the opposite. >> all right -- >> rallied to desantis -- vision >> let's quickly go to the other issue we talked about, which is transparency. conservatives have typically been tragic champions of transparency, and more transparency in government. but desantis in court cases has claimed executive privilege, and again we talked about the bill that would exempt records related to his travel from the states robust public disclosure law. the sunshine laws in florida. what do you make of this? do you agree that he should be in this position to say hey, you can't see the way i have spent some of the states money, the taxpayer dollars. or, you can't have any of his staff testify, claiming executive privilege. what do you make of that? >> well sarah listen, i think

executive privilege is very important president, very important certainly for a government. as you will know, a governor can't travel to where you and i can because of security measures, so we have to travel in a very different way. now, >> -- but all governors at >> all governors have the travel in a different way, and they do not use executive privilege. that is usually set aside for presidents, and presidents to use it at times. so why is he special? >> well sarah listen, i think that governor -- governor desantis has been incredibly transparent. it's one of the reasons, one of the many reasons, why floridians rallied to his cause and gave him an absolutely overwhelming reelection. and by the way, one with coattails, it's not just he soared to a runaway smashing landslide victory, he also lifted all other flora statewide officeholders. the first time all those offices are held by republicans, the first time since the civil war era in the sunshine state. so the people of florida

clearly are more than satisfied with the job he is doing, with a level of transparency that he is providing. i believe he will continue to provide that as long as he is governor of florida, until it becomes president of the united states, which i hope to be a big part of making up. and >> the new bill that he signed into law does not say that, it is not more transparent. but we will leave it there, steve cortez. thank you for coming on the show. >> thank you for having me, i appreciated. >> thank you steven. it should be noted that thanks to republican super majorities in the legislature, governor desantis's arm with 16 billion dollars in tax money for his legal fights, like the one against disney over the bill he signed into law that a bill he signed that prohibits in classrooms -- . a fifth grade teacher is caught in the cross fire. she showed the pg rated animated film strange world after a day of standardized test that the kids had taken. she wouldn't teach the class about the environment, she says. the film features a family of explorers banded together to navigate the world. >> so i thought that that was

such a beautiful message to send to the kids, work together, chaser dreams, compassion. >> but strange world also features disney's first ever openly gay character, and showing the movie to fifth graders may violate that florida law we just talked about. the teacher says a parent reported her. all right, let's start with our panel, a lot has been said. from the city of brotherly love, philadelphia radio host solomon jones, the washington post sarah ellison, los angeles time columnists elie granderson, and former trump white house communications director alyssa farah griffin. welcome to you all. i know, take a deep breath, because that was a lot. all right, let's start with this situation with disney. so the question that was asked, or put forward by steve cortez was, do you want chaos or results? but where does this fall, we have just seen with the new law. i want to start with you, melissa.

>> so here's the problem. in many veins, governor desantis is a strong candidate for the public nomination. however, he has had a number of missteps. something that made him -- show strength early on was taking on these fights, the culture wars, challenging the don't say gay bill, going to war with disney. he has been outmaneuvered, so we are not sure where this is going to land, but just this past week, bob iger, said it would even consider removing jobs, 17 thousands of them from the second largest employer in the state of florida. i also want to know something on a so-called don't say gay bill, it wasn't originally to be intended for kids a third grade, but the legislature actually expanded it so it's k through 12 education, which is far more wide reaching. my advice, having known governor desantis when the house, and as governor, if you do have record to run on. more people have flocked to florida from los angeles, new york, and other parts of the country than any state. you have a ripe economy, a growing economy, you won liberal stronghold like miami-dade. the culture wars will be a loser for you in the general election.

they are 30% issues, they are not something that's going to ever make you president. >> desantis's famous ring where will goes to die. what do you make of this? i mean, there is a huge problem by the way, when it comes to teachers and teacher shortages in florida. that is not touted and talked about, florida ranks as fourth worst for teacher salaries in the nation, and there are some 5000 teacher spots that need to be filled. what do you think this is going to look like to the folks in the primary, as well as the general public. because ultimately, if you want to become president you have to win the whole country. >> you do. but first things first, first put florida in his rearview. what a winning by this is this, when you go back and you look at governor desantis when he first got into office, you look at what he was actually doing, one of the things that people don't remember that he did was that he pardoned for black man for the 1940s who are falsely accused of rape through systemic racism. governor desantis pardoned that, someone called it being woke,

someone called a crt, i call it being a governor for everyone. it wasn't until president trump got in trouble that he became much more on the, right more conservative, and instead of being a governor for all, he became someone trying to run to win the votes in other parts of the country. so your question is about, does he care about floridians, you have to put that 16 million dollar bill is, because not coming out of his money. or does he carroll being president? >> what do you make of what he said, what he has put forth in schools, in particular, and it is definitely linked with this idea of critical race theory that has been used as basically a cudgel to try and make teachers, and a whole school system look like it's doing the wrong thing. >> right. i think your point is exactly right, which is what made him a successful governor, and what helped him win is not what has served him well so far in his -- so far stalled attempt to run, which he has not yet even started. he is limping his way towards announcing his candidacy by doubling down on this sort of

mini trump kind of position of constantly going back to the well with the culture wars. i think what is interesting is for people like ron desantis who talk a lot about cancel culture, what he's actual talking what is real cancel culture, he is a government official who is denying free people their ability to say what they want in schools, and to teach what they want and schools. it's almost like a first amendment violation, or at least a first amendment principles violation to keep people from being able to talk openly, show a movie in your classroom, dear students. i think it's the opposite of what people are going to go for in a general election, and that's the way he needs to be thinking right now. >> when you see this, solomon, and you see what this data that teacher, who is by the way a first your teacher. so these are people they need to come into the state, to teach the kids, they are in public education. she has now got to fight with the state. she is under investigation. and she got permission slips,

by the way, i heard the interview, she got permission slips from the parents, but they said oh, you have to be very specific and say exactly what was going on in the movie. and she said -- she was at a loss. >> yeah, i think that ron desantis is trying to beat trump, in that he's trying to pick fights. but he is picking fights with the wrong people. you know, ron desantis, tough on mickey mouse. that does not work in terms of trying to get votes of people across the country. people like mickey moos. and so, you are fighting disney, you are fighting teachers, you are fighting people who really, you should be supporting. and so this teacher, she got caught in the middle, but it was interesting what she did. because you couldn't country union head, she could've gone to the district, she went to tiktok. and she said okay, if we're gonna fight we're going to fight. i think it's interesting to watch the way this teacher is reacting to this, and i wonder if she was ready for this fight before it even began? >> sir, if i may add.

i think it's also important, i know that it's a desire to compare him to trump, desantis to trump because the antics are similar. the difference is, he is an office. he isn't just talking, he is impacting lives, i don't see him as a little trump, i see him as bigger trump, because he is impacting peoples lives today, not just talking about it. >> yeah, but it's not working for him. even in florida, they did a poll -- >> no, you're talking about voting. i'm talking about people living day-to-day lives. there are queer people who are under duress in florida right now because that man is an office, not because he is in office, but because of his policies. there's a difference between chatter and campaigning, and actually enacting law. desantis is in a position to enact law. >> and this really quickly if i could say, i do think is make a huge misstep by taking on the lgbtq community. donald trump picked up many votes in that community, he was the first kind of modern candidate who did not get into that you know, debate over gay marriage, and i think that that brought in some voters in 2016, probably not in 2020. you are turning of so many

voters who could potentially be with. >> that's why desantis is down in the polls in his own state to donald trump. florida, atlanta university did that poll in april, and if they voted right now he would be down 39 to 51. >> which is really interesting. you have the last four in the solomon, we are going to continue this fabulous panel, stay with us the teacher will be on with alison camerota in the next hour. and coming up, if you are on the left as proof of the conspiracy theories are bs, if you are on the right it's proof the fbi and doj conspired against donald trump. after four years, the durham report into the trump russia investigation is a tonight, so where does the true fly? we will discuss. . l at his weird neighbor's house. he's alright... i love watching the game with you. call 1-800-directv to get a $200 reward card.

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it >> the number one question i get it from people as they say when is somebody going to jail? >> so far nobody. it's a report for years in the making, the so-called during report is out. it is dissected whether the federal investigation into the connections between donald trump 26 dean campaign and russia should have been launched in the first place? it was named after john durham, the special counsel appointed by the trump administration to, as they put it, investigate the investigators. the report concluded the fbi should never have launched a full investigation, and then a preliminary one would have been quote, sensible. even those findings are at odds with the previous justice department inspector general investigation that concluded there was sufficient justification to open the inquiry. despite many prosecutions, durham's probe only secured one conviction, which did not end in any jail time. alyssa is back with me, along with former assistant special watergate prosecutor, and former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, nick ackerman. thank you, you've just been here.

you've got to stay with me all night. but thank you so much for coming, mr. ackerman. i'm gonna start with you. you know durham personally. >> yes, i met him once in an investigation where i represented a client in a white-collar metal that was very fact based, and scientific based. >> is this report those things, is it fair? >> this report does nothing. it is absolutely a big zero. nothing is new in it, it just regurgitate the right wing view that this whole investigation was wrong. it reiterates attorney general barr's statement after the mueller report came out that donald trump was exonerated, he was not. the investigation was started for absolutely reasonable means, it came out of a meeting between george papadopoulos, who was donald trump's foreign policy advisor, and a diplomat from australia, in the uk, where he told him that he was

aware that emails were in russia's possession and would be coming out during the campaign. at the same time, the fbi knew that the russians had hacked into the dnc, the democratic national committee's servers, they knew, the fbi knew that this had happened, and this connected that trump campaign directly with that hacking. and then on top of all the, even taking that as the starting point, you had donald trump's chief political adviser roger stone who was dealing with goose affair two point oh, who was the fsb agent who was actually release that information initially. he also, roger stone, was dealing with julian a sounds, and he was telling people he was dealing with julian assange, who was then releasing the information. and then on top of it all at the end of the day, you actually had proof that there

was a russian connection, and conspiracy, but the problem was the government did not have sufficient proof to make out a criminal case in the court of law. you had constant teen clinic, who was meeting with roger manafort, i'm sorry paul manafort the campaign manager. >> you had these nine convictions, or people from the mueller investigation. nine people who either pleaded guilty, or were convicted in some way in connection with the case. but the report did not say whether they were for able to find sufficient evidence of a conspiracy to use russia -- the trump campaign was trying to use dresser or had used russia to try to win the 2016 campaign for donald trump. so alyssa, when you look at this report, it is 300 pages long. it is no small report. for some on the right it is being hailed as, this is proof that donald trump is innocent of everything, and he did nothing wrong.

how do you see it? >> this is something where two things can be true at once. so what -- i fold is closure only read summations of it at this juncture, there was no smoking gun. there was no charges being filed based on this, but it does underscore what looks like partisan undermining within the fbi in this investigation that was pushing some of the -- sum of what was being earlier looking into. so so that steele dossier is something we always come back -- to >> but that wasn't really part of this investigation. it didn't start it, it had nothing to do with. it >> it was referenced as part of it, so i think when people in the public -- just to be clear, 50% of the country sees as one way, 50% season other -- way >> right, but you can't see facts that don't exist. the fbi was not relying on the steele dossier to do anything, really. they weren't relying on this

other investigation that was into a totally different individual that was hired by the trump -- >> and while i do think that is where the facts pan out, i think it's important that the perception of half the country be addressed in this, which is this notion that there was some sort of partisan working with the fbi -- and >> that's just taking fake alternative facts and trying to turn into something real, which it is not. at the end of the day the facts show that the campaign manager for donald trump was dealing with a russian agent, was providing him with very granular polling information that the campaign had on key battleground states. all of which donald trump won. it was used by the fsb in st. petersburg to micro target voters in those states, and resulted in donald trump winning. the only reason why nobody was indicted for that was because paul manafort decided he would not cooperate. and the reason he would not cooperate is because donald trump told him that to hang in there because he would be pardoned, and in fact, he was

pardoned. >> but the problem is we are in a place where there is tremendous distrust in our institutions. some of this, by the way, largely comes from the right right now, traditionally is more the left that were come after the law enforcement agencies. there is a distrust in the department of justice and the fbi. and this report coming out and saying there may have not been enough to lead to a full scale investigation, that is going to jam of about 50% of the country to say, the? they did not have enough. they spent however many years trying to undo the 2016 election. that's not my personal viewpoint on that, that it is how it's being seen. i'm seeing folks in the white, prominent names on the right saying defund the fbi. chief law enforcement agency to deal with human trafficking, and domestic terrorism. we have to able to address this and talk about it, because again terrace park if we're not -- >> this >> we're gonna have to wrap this up. but to be fair, it is already torn this country apart in many ways. and so, we will have to -- its 300 pages if you want to read or it's all there. but thank you nick akerman for

coming on and going through those details. a lot of people have forgotten there are so many things happening, the mueller report and what happened with that, and illicit you stay with us please. in just a bit, the democratic congressman whose office was attacked today by a man with a bat is speaking out now. and we have new video, that is next.

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went after two of his staffers, take a listen. >> i was at a groundbreaking event for national capital food bank, and learned that a man had come into our office with a metal base fallback and asked for me, and when told that i was at an event, he proceeded to attack the young intern who was at the front desk on her first day. and then when the noise and commotion became clear, all of us came running out of our officers, and he attacked my outreach director, and hit her badly on the back of her head. one of my fast-thinking staff members offered to find the congressman for him, and use that time to bring everyone into a safe space, call the police, and they were there

within five minutes. he was engaged in an altercation, apparently, with the police and had to be tasers, and one of the police had a minor injury in the course of trying to subdue him. >> and this individual caused mass destruction in your office, too? >> yeah after he was denied access to more staff members he could hurt, he turned his fury on the office himself. a lot of broken glass, destroyed computers, some like that. i haven't been able to get there because the crime scene. >> we've seen this happen to nancy pelosi's house, the school shooting. what does this tell you about how vulnerable member of congress are? >> i think we're going to have to reassess the security we provide, and don't provide district offices. if you are a member of congress and your office happens to be in a federal building, or the courthouse, you're going to have security. but if you're in a commercial

office space like me, you have no security. none. and what could go wrong with that? well, we learned the answer to that question this morning. >> congressman connally also said his two aides are now out of the hospital. just minutes ago the, we've got disturbing new video of the suspect. take a listen. >> [screaming] >> that is truly traumatizing, this security camera video showing a suspect chasing after the woman. you can hear screaming in his neighborhood just before he left for connolly's office. again, this is before the office attack. but you see that video there. that young lady's father -- sorry, the suspect's father says he is schizophrenic and has not taken his medication for three months. and you are seeing the result of that, in this case, he did it again. now to our next story.

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he was seen in an instagram video flashing a handgun in a car. it is not yet clear where he was or when this video was shot, but it comes less than three months after the memphis grizzlies guard was suspended for eight games without pay for a similar incident at a nightclub. after that punishment, morant issued this promise to fans. >> it's not who i am, i don't condone any type of violence, and i take full responsibility for my actions. i made a bad mistake. i'm going to show everybody who ja really is, and what i'm about and change this narrative. >> joining us at the table is cnn legal analyst joey jackson along with lz, alyssa, and solomon. first to you lz, you are a fan of morant -- gotta put that out the first. >> yes i am. >> a lot of people are.

he is young, he's on fire, he scores a think 22 baskets or so per game. yeah, i did my homework. on average. [laughter] he is an excellent ball player. >> yes he is. >> and yet, you are seeing this for the second time, another video coming out where he has a gun in his hand, it appears. what is your reaction when you heard, uh - oh, this is out there again another incident. >> first of all, it is important to say, lakers in six. okay, now with that being said -- [laughter] >> listen, speaking of lakers. lebron james is 38 years old, se just saw him takin on about steph curry who's in his 30s. the league's aging, the stars are aging, ja you aren't perfect addition to make this lead yours, and you are screwing it up. i don't know the timeline is in terms of to your point, when the video was taking, when it was posted, all of that. what i do know is this, there's been enough chatter around you to make corporations wonder if you are the person to invest in. and i'm not just coming on

tripping off the nba money, lebron james is a billionaire. michael jordan is a billionaire. magic johnson is a billionaire. not because of the ball they played, but how they play the ball off court, and he is screwing it up right now. whether it's legal or not, from an image perspective, he is screwing it up. >> speaking of image, i want to go to you solomon, because he has a huge influence. he has some of those looked up to, he is young, he has 10 million or so followers on instagram live. and in so many ways, you know, it's not just athletes, but it's young people who look up to these guys and say wow, they worked hard and look what they've got, and they've got, they are ballers! they've got tons of money, they both incredible lifestyle and they are playing ball. what does this do to those who look up to him? and what parents have to tell their kids? >> i think the question is, who is he looking up to? because there is a whole culture around gun violence that is in music, and it's on

social media, and it is in his age group. i run a nonprofit in philadelphia where we mentor guys around his age, around gun violence. and some of them will tell you, this is part of who we are. this is our morality, right? and so, you need someone for him to actually look up to who he respects and understands who can actually speak to him on that level, and i don't know that he found that person yet. >> so the nba has rules that, there's a whole thing they bargain with the players about. did he break the rules? because the ones i read it didn't seem like it. >> so, they certainly, they be in the nba, say he's going to have to pay. i am concerned about ja morant not as the brand, but as the person, because that needs to be addressed first for you congress anything else. before you just your millions, yet to address internally. i am a defense attorney, so let me defend. he is a young man, not to justify his behavior or conduct, but i am hoping he does not just get canceled away. i'm hoping there is an opportunity for growth, for development, that he can be embracing uplifted by the community. two lz's point, which is a significant one, he is a next

generation. next generation of power players, power people. we are not as bad as we are on our worst day, we're not as good as we are on our best day, the truth lies somewhere in between. but my hope is that he gets it together, that good people come around him, and that he can build himself, build his brand, and built the nba to the future. >> alyssa, if he didn't break the law, and we have no indication, we don't know when this was taken or where. but if he did not break the law, and some of the rules, he did not break all of the rules we know that. is there a little bit of a double standard here? we have seen politicians wielding guns, taking christmas photos with their whole family of children holding massive firearms. >> speak on it. >> that's an interesting way of looking at it. i think it was absolutely the right decision to suspend him, i feel for him. i did not realize how young he is, he so fun to watch play, he

plays like he could be one of the great. twofold, when you're looking at it from a monetary standpoint. to lz's, if you're not gonna get brands you're not gonna get endorsements, that's gonna lead. if you think about him the human. when you get into these roles, of that with him with celebrities i've interviewed, but overnight stardom, money, access. if you do not have the right people around you, you can fall into the wrong habits, you can ruin your entire career very quickly. we have a problem with gun violence in this country, whether it's a politician posing with a gun, or it's this gentlemen. we need to think about how that is viewed with people who see it, i don't like it when i see a politician doing it, anymore than electing on tiktok. >> isn't it interesting though that one apology does it the nra is like yeah! but when jah morant does it? you guys are right? i can't hear you. >> there is a double standard, but, when you are employed by some of the nba, they have rules in place, and those rules they can say, okay you can make all this money and do this.

and it's something that he will have to deal with, we now know he is suspended again. solomon, lz, alyssa, joey, thank you very much. some people say age is just a number, but to martha stewart, has actually proven it, honey. and showing it off, gracing the cover of the new sports illustrated swimsuit addition at 81 years old. coming up next, the editor. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ get 2.9% apr for 36 months plus $1,500 purchase allowance on an xt5 and xt6 when you finance through cadillac financial. ♪

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iconic issues cover. here has how martha described her historic moment. >> to be on the cover at my age was a challenge, and i think i met the challenge. for me, it is a testament to good living. and i think that all of us should think about good living, successful living, and not about aging. i hope it does give people, women especially, on opportunity to revisit their lives and get with the picture. >> we call that living her best life. joining me now, sports illustrated swimsuit editor in chief, mj de. thank you so much for joining us. how did you decide, how did the megan's inside hey, what we have martha stewart on the cover? >> well, about two years ago, i'm sure you may remember martha posted a pretty provocative thirst trap, they

called it, of her coming out of her pool in bedford. i will tell you, i never forgot that, and i thought you know what? here is someone who really has it going on, in more ways than one, and let's celebrate it. >> were there any decisions made on the part of martha stewart, like, did you say hey, don't do this, don't you from this angle, don't -- or did you have decisions like that that had to be made? >> well, the beauty of what we do at sports illustrated is it's really, really collaborative effort between the talent and the photographer, and of course myself. i take that approach with everyone we work with, but absolutely, we met with martha many times, going into this. you know, it's an important moment for her, for her brand, for what she represents, and we wanted her to feel her best and comfortable. so you know, ruben afinitor who is the photographer that shot the cover was someone that martha had worked with previously, and someone that i had worked with previously and equally adore. she reviewed swimwear choices with us, and we talked about everything. she was a former model, you know, so she knows her way around the camera, and it was a lot of real, collaborative effort. and martha knows which he won.

so does rubin, so do i, and i think we all met in a beautiful place. it was a really, really lovely experience. >> i've got to tell, you mj, those pictures are stunning. i don't care how old she is, or whatever season, i do want to ask you, if you got any blow back, or got any criticism, or has all just been praise? >> i have only heard praise, and that gives me so much joy, and i am so happy to be able to say that, because i think it is something that we as women need to hear, and feel, and understand better. because there are so many things that we have been told that we can and cannot do, and here is someone who is living

her life to the fullest, and not knowing any, you know, any lines except the ones she creates. i think that's a great example for all of us to follow, and it's been really great, it's been really positive, it's been really celebratory, and it really makes me happy, as a woman myself, to feel that. >> there's going to be a lot of people to say about time, she's the first person, but the first person over 80 years old, and she looks amazing. so thank you so much, mj de. the issue is on new stands, thursday. next, what caused deep chappelle's standup act to get real serious real fast? eva's about to learn her fear of missing out leads to overeating. i totally eat stuff to not miss out. and that's just a bit of psychology eva learned from noom weight. sign up now at noom.com

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francisco. he was doing it, a stand up in the city. he told a graphic story about someone using the bathroom on the street and called san francisco a, half glee half zombie movie. chappelle of course is no stranger to speaking his mind including sparking controversy over lgbtq issues. the problems in the city are well documented, in fact i traveled there for cnn the whole story that aired this week and spoke to a mother about the battle to keep person off the streets and treat his addiction. you can learn more about that story on cnn. com. thank you so much for joining us, cnn tonight, alison camerota is starting right now ♪ ♪ ♪ >> a lot of luck on our viewers joining us here in the united states and all around the world. i'm rosemary church. just ahead on cnn newsroom. a bombshell or a that? up to years of