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able to pull up that we have to shut down, these conversations, these doors that she's talking about that's telling you i'm stripping her rights as a parent, those rights are gone when your child is in the public school system because there are students talking about these things. it's where they get 90% of the socialization for the day. we can't shut down every conversation every child has. >> thank you for being with us this morning. keep us posted. i'm sorry to interrupt. go ahead. >> she's pointing fingers, but what she's saying is that we are indoctrinating by showing these things. but actually we're just showing a representation of our students that are already there. indoctrinating is going around and telling you you can't do all these things. she is pushing the believes that all these things are wrong. and that is indoctrinating. >> jenna barbee, thank you very much. we did reach out to shannon rodriguez. she is welcome on the show, of course, any day as well. we appreciate your time this
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morning. >> absolutely. thank you. >> thank you. "cnn this morning" continues right now. ♪ we are learning more about the man in custody accused of attacking a staffer, intern for democratic congressman gerry connolly. >> he didn't have any particular motivation, he was on a tear. >> we have to assess the security we do or do not provide district offices. >> it's concerning and quite frankly scary. the clock is ticking closer to what would be the first debt deno-fault american history. >> we don't know what the economic impacts will really be. and that's the scariest part. >> the fact of the matter is they're now negotiating. they have to. >> you have to have something done by this weekend. we are nowhere near any of that. ♪ after four years and millions of taxpayer dollars, durham report is out. >> got his own information, which is this information plus plus plus. >> this report does nothing. it is absolutely a big zero.
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♪ >> florida governor ron desantis is expected to launch his white house bid by the end of the month. >> we've had three election cycles in a row where we had poor results. that's just the fact. >> the question is whether he can prove he's the right man for the job. ♪ martha stewart is the oldest sports illustrated swim suit issue cover model. >> here is someone who really has it going on in more ways than one. and let's celebrate it. >> to be on the cover at my age was a challenge. all of us should think about good living and not about ageing. ♪ i love that martha stewart story. we'll get to that in a moment. it's really good. you'll want to see that. good morning, everyone. thank you so much for joining us this morning. there's a lot of headlines going on out of washington. >> a lot of headlines. very sad news. two congressional staffers are now out of the hospital, at least. but this is after a man with a bat, a baseball bat, attacked democratic congressman jerry
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connolly's office in virginia. he struck a senior aid in the head with his metal bat. cnn obtained surveillance video appears to show that same suspect chasing a woman in his neighborhood just minutes before the attack. [ screaming ] >> after that incident, police say the suspect drove to connolly's office which was about six miles away. and the suspect's father tells cnn his son has mental health issues. co in, nolly says the suspect previously contacted his office to ask him to help with something and he made some, quote, bizarre statements to connolly's staff. this is terrifying and raises real questions about security at congressional offices, not just on capitol hill but those field offices. >> that's absolutely right, poppy. this was such a brazen attack. notably the two staffers that were hit with that metal baseball bat, they have now been released from the hospital. in an interview with cnn,
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congressman connolly says it was only the quick thinking of his staff that prevented many more from being injured in this incident. he says the suspect entered his office filled with an out of control rage, demanding to see him. the congressman said that this is a person that had contacted his office in the past. he reached out for help on an issue. and his staff did sense, he said, in talking to him that he was engaged in some bizarre statements. but he never made any threats like this violent attack. [ screaming ] >> reporter: terrifying video, caught on a home security camera. neighbors say it shows the man now accused of attacking a virginia congressman staffer's allegedly chasing a woman with a bat minutes earlier. >> i don't think there is a motivation. i think we're talking about real mental illness. >> reporter: several neighbors heard the commotion. daniel ashley says it wasn't until he heard about a possible connection to the attack on the congressman's office that he started looking through his security camera footage. >> that was the clip that had
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the woman running away from the guy with the baseball bat. she's screaming and terrified. i heard about the gerry connolly thing on the news. i had no idea it was so close to hope. >> reporter: the alleged attacker walked into his district office in fairfax in an enraged state. >> turns out that he had already used that bat to destroy older woman's windshield out further west. so, he was on a tear. >> he did arrive here in a vehicle. and he walked to the office. and began swinging the bat, striking two staff members. >> reporter: the congressman telling cnn he wasn't there at the time. >> a man had come into our office with a metal baseball bat. and asked for me. and when told that i was at an event, he proceeded to attack
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the young intern who was at the front desk on her first day. and then when the noise and commotion became clear, others came running out of their offices and he attacked my outreach director and hit her badly on the back of her head. >> reporter: the suspect's father told cnn he has tried to get help for his son in the past. the 49-year-old was also known to law enforcement. he was charged in january of 2022 with felony assault on a law enforcement officer among other charges. now, the district attorney at that time declined to prosecute for this incident he is facing charges for one count of aggravated malicious wounding and one count of malicious wounding. poppy? >> sunlen, thank you for the update. hope those staffers fully recover. >> yeah. we're thinking of them. also happening today in washington, it is round two of debt limit talks that are going to take place between president biden and house speaker kevin mccarthy. other top congressional lawmakers will be in the room, but those are the two who will
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be the ones that make the decisions. last night, treasury secretary janet yellen reiterated her warning that the u.s. is not going to be able to pay its tab potentially as early as june 1st, just 15 days and 16 hours or so away. of course, that comes as speaker mccarthy says he does not seem optimistic about the talks as they progressed so far. >> we're only a couple weeks away. if you look at the timeline to pass something in the house or pass something in the senate, you have to have something done by this weekend. we are nowhere near any of that. >> we're nowhere near any of that. he warns joining us now, cnn correspondent arlette saenz. there's a big question here because of the timing, given how long it does take anything to get done on capitol hill. mccarthy was noting there. also, as you know, president biden is set to leave tomorrow. so what are the questions looking like when it comes to what the white house is willing to move on because it does appear, you know, they're negotiating now, at least having
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these discussions with republicans. >> reporter: well, kaitlan, the question about whether they can actually reach a deal could get its next big clue this afternoon with that face to face meeting with president biden and house speaker kevin mccarthy. you heard mccarthy there saying he believes there needs to be a deal by this weekend. the white house has any type to put any time frame on that. but we all know how long it takes to move legislation through capitol hill as well as trying to corral each of the caucuses together. additionally, they're facing that time constraint with president biden set to leave for japan tomorrow. and aides i have spoken to have acknowledged the very real possibility that he could leave without an agreement and with those staff level talks continuing. the public messaging on both sides has been wildly different. president biden really striking this optimistic tone, saying there's a desire from both sides to try to reach an agreement. while you heard mccarthy there saying that he doesn't -- hasn't seen any movement himself in
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these discussions. but sources have told us that behind the scenes that those staff-level talks have been continuing in earnest, with each side describing them as constructive. you have seen items that the white house and officials on capitol hill have put on the table, including permitting reform as well as trying to claw back some of the covid relief funds. there's still some real sticking points when it comes to the duration of spending caps and also work requirements for certain government aid programs. all eyes this afternoon will be on president biden and house speaker kevin mccarthy, they're really the two men who have to finalize any type of agreement when it comes to raising the debt ceiling with that x date of june 1st quickly looming. >> you mentioned work requirements there. i saw president biden over the weekend seeming to leave the door open to maybe being on board with stricter work requirements for some of these benefits, the food stamps, snap benefits that go out. is that something, though that progressive democrats would be on board with? it seems like we have heard
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criticism already so far from that. what is the white house saying about it? >> reporter: yeah. you have seen some progressives coming out, pressing some frustration with those comments. the president had noted that in the past he has voted for some work requirements, but he simply said that when it comes to medicaid, that it would be very difficult to get him on board with that. you quickly saw the white house issue a clarification saying that the president would not support any work requirements which would push people into poverty or take away american's health care. so for the time being, the white house has been saying that he will not agree to those work requirements when it comes to medicaid and potentially food stamps, but those are all items that republicans have really been pushing for in these negotiations as they're trying to get to more spending cuts. >> we'll see what happens at 3:00 p.m. today during that meeting in the white house. thank you. also this morning, the durham report is out. it marks the end of a four-year investigation into the origins of the fbi's trump/russia probe, the special counsel john durham was hand picked by bill barr and the trump administration.
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this report casts doubt on the fbi's decision to launch that full investigation into connections between the trump campaign and russia during the 2016 election. but it also, we should note, falls short of proving that it was nothing more than a political witch hunt. durham's report is at odds with the 2019 justice department inspector general probe which acknowledged problems with the mueller investigation but ultimately concluded there was sufficient justification to do the probe -- to open the inquiry. that's a big difference. let's get context and background from our senior legal analyst elie honig. good to have you. okay. so, just get us to why we're here, who john durham is, what the assignment was. >> yeah, poppy. our story begins four years ago, spring of 2019, when a different special counsel robert mueller was wrapping up his report. robert mueller found that russia did try to interfere in the 2016 presidential election and the trump campaign knew about and
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expected to benefit from that experience. however, mueller also found there was no criminal conspiracy between donald trump and russians. well, trump very quickly declared victory. he claimed no collusion, no obstruction, not exactly an accurate take on mueller's findings and donald trump began this refrain, investigate the investigators. what happened a couple weeks later? sure enough, donald trump's attorney general bill barr named john durham and told him to look into the origins of the russia investigation. durham by the way had been a trump-appointed u.s. attorney but also been a federal prosecutor for 35 plus years. >> but also praised by democrats like chris murphy and merrick garland the attorney general and the president joe biden left him in place. walk us through his findings. >> big report yesterday. 300 plus pages. here are the key findings by john durham. he found there's no actual evidence of collusion between trump and russia at the start of the investigation. now, you're never going to have all the information right up
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front. but durham says that this thing should have ended and never become a full-blown investigation. durham also criticizes doj and the fbi. he says they relied on raw, unanalyzed and uncorroborated intelligence. he said they should have done more diligence before they relied on some of the things they relied on including the infamous steele dossier. durham notes there was a predisposition to investigate trump by some members on the team. durham does cite email and text exchanges between certain members of the team that cheerily show they were anti-trump and wanted him to lose the election. >> they do. we'll get to those with andy mccabe, named 60 times almost in this report what he thinks of those text messages. but before you go, there's a departure in the durham report from the mueller report. >> yeah. >> how do you square the two? can you? what should americans take away when they say the mueller report tells us, and the durham report tells us this? >> mueller report says we were right to go ahead. doj's inspector general said
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there were problems with some of the things the fbi did but the investigation was properly predicated and should have gown forward. also, let's remember, the republican-controlled senate intelligence committee in 2020 found there was ample basis for this investigation to move forward. >> thank you for helping us. appreciate it very, very much. kaitlan? also this morning we're tracking outraged parents in new york are pulling their children out of school after the city's move to start housing asylum seekers, handful of stand alone public school gyms. >> i'm taking them home! why should there be in there with those adults! those are men and women. we don't know where these people come from. >> i hope they have proper security. >> they should have a different building for adults. >> this comes as the mayors of new york, los angeles, denver and houston are all now asking for a meeting with president biden as their cities are struggling to find space for the influx of migrants being bussed to their cities from the
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southern border each day. cnn rosa flores is live in texas with more. rosa, obviously this is a question i think we should note the reason this is happening is officials in these border towns, people like texas governor greg abbott, say it's unfair their cities have to deal with the majority of the stress of this. but the big question is, these officials in these other cities, what is their solution for how to handle this influx and this surge of migrants they have to deal with? >> reporter: well, you know, kaitlan, that surge related to title 42 happened may 9th when i was doing live shots for your show and there were hundreds of migrants who were sleeping in the streets of el paso. right now, what's going on in the border is, yes, there is a strain of resources because a lot of migrants entered that week. but now what we're seeing is that those numbers are not materializing. the expected thousands of migrants who were waiting in
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mexico, who were going to rush into the united states after title 42 lifted has not happened. now the administration did see a setback overnight when after the doj asked for a stay in that federal case out of florida and that stay was denied, which means the biden administration can no longer release migrants into communities without court dates. so that creates a further strain. does it create a bottleneck? absolutely. but there has been such a reduction in the number of migrant encounters on the border, by 50% or more, that at this point it's manageable. now the big question is what happened? why are these thousands of migrants who are waiting in camps on the mexican side not crossing over? what i'm hearing from officials and community leaders on the mexican side is that the tough talk by the biden administration and the transparency by the biden administration, in essence delivering the message to
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migrants about the border being closed, the legal consequences, the fact that they would be barred from re-entry for five years, kaitlan, that message is resonating on the mexican side by these migrants because they're seeing it on their social media now. they're seeing images of migrants being shackled and being boarded on planes and deported back to their home countries. that appears to be resonating. how long will this last? we don't know. but we're going to be monitoring it. >> i know you'll be monitoring it closely. rosa, thank you. florida governor ron desantis apparently days away from launching his 2024 presidential campaign. we'll talk about his strategy ahead. also, we have a live look at louisville, kentucky, as voters are heading to the polls today to decide which republican nominee, which republican candidate, is going to face off against the current democratic governor andy beshear, who is up for re-election. a lot of republicans are running. we'll tell you what the voters are saying. ♪
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some of my favorite movies. a live look at philadelphia this morning where voters are heading to the polls in a mayoral primary races. nine democrats are running for their party's nomination. there's only one republican candidate. democrats outnumber republicans 7 to 1 in the city of philadelphia. whoever ultimately emerges as a winner will likely be a player in the 2024 presidential election. >> of course, that's not the only place where voters are going to the polls today. republicans in kentucky are also doing the same thing this morning. in a race that's going to test president trump's influence over the republican party against other potential 2024 rifles of his. voters are deciding who will take on the current democrat ic governor andy beshear this november. it's 12 republican candidates on the ballot today. three of them have made their way to the front of the pack and our cnn national politics reporter is louisville this morning tracking all of these
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candidates. not just those three, all 12. what's the sense? what are you hearing from voters this morning which republican they want to go head to head with the current governor? >> reporter: good morning to you, kaitlan. it's been slow here at this polling location in louisville s morning. 2,000 polling sites across the state i'm told. it has just been a bruising battle between these republicans as they try to figure out who best to put up against popular incumbent democrat andy beshear. >> daniel cameron a former staffer for senator mitch mcconnell and a rising star in the party after his 2020 republican convention speech. >> good evening. that's why i'm voting for donald trump for president. >> he is considered a top contender along with kelly kraft who served as trump's ambassador to canada and later the united nations. >> thank you very much. you're doing fantastically well. >> reporter: trump endorsed cameron, joining him in a tell
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le rally sunday night. >> i have no doubt he'll be a fantastic governor. >> reporter: the endorsement resulting in bitter barbs traded between the two candidates. >> i got the endorsement. and your team has been scrambling ever since. >> reporter: and in tv ads. >> only one candidate for governor has been endorsed by president trump. >> reporter: craft is focussed in on cameron's ties to mcconnell. >> my opponent, career politicians who would rather follow than lead. >> his handling over the bianna taylor case, allowing the justice department to investigate louisville's police department. >> they failed kentucky's law enforcement. >> craft, the wife of a billionaire coal magnet loaned her campaign $9 million, cameron raised 1.5 million. >> they both are cutting each other's throat. that's what i think. >> you don't like that? >> no. >> no. >> they're slandering each other. >> reporter: cameron focussed on a law and order mess j and would make history as the first black
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republican governor elected in the u.s. why do you think that you are best suited to take on governor beshear? >> we have seen a governor who has sat idly by as the far left tried to move into our state. we need to have a governor that says enough and will stand up for the values of kentucky. >> reporter: craft centered her campaign on culture war clashes. >> we have to take woke out of our education, out of our government, out of our family, out of our businesses. >> reporter: agricultural commission has focussed his campaign on rural areas of kentucky. >> let me be the candidate that unites our state. >> reporter: hoping to win over voters who may be turned off by craft and cameron's trump-fueled fight. >> politics is local, that's a test here. can you still run a campaign in the state talking about local issues, running a very localized campaign and win, or have we entered an era in politics if you're running for local office, you have to have a position on ukraine. >> reporter: so, cameron expected to vote here a little
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later this morning. unfortunately the forecast calls for rain. and already these primaries are low turnout affairs. 10 to 15% of registered voters. so about 3.4 million registered voters in kentucky. only 10 to 15% typically turn out for these primaries. secretary of state's office hopes that their own projection is wrong and that more people, poppy and kaitlan, do turn out to vote. >> eva mckend, we'll see how many more turn out to vote. >> that's such a low percentage. thank you, eva. national correspondent for the "washington post," phillip bump. great to have you. good morning. what do you make of this? you have desantis choosing not to back cameron. desantis choosing to back craft. and so that's where he and trump are departing on this one. what does it tell you? >> it's interesting. i would say probably two factors at play here. the first is it's important to remember trump is now the republican establishment. right?
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if you want to run or establish yourself as being against the powers of being the republican party, some extent you have to challenge donald trump. ron desantis is making a play here to not only stand against trump but stand against mitch mcconnell alied with cameron the front-runner in most polling. craft has a lot of money. if you're running for president and craft is not likely to win according to the polls doesn't hurt to have an ally in kelly kraft. >> there you go. >> it's also interesting because obviously kelly kraft works in the trump administration. he nominated her to serve as his ambassador to canada. we'll see what republicans decide here. it's this proxy war between trump's influence and desantis's influence. the florida governor we're told is basically just days away from finally, officially jumping into this race. he is still using the power of his -- being governor of florida to advance what that campaign is going to look like. yesterday he signed this legislation that would basically prevent public schools and colleges and universities in the
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state of florida from funding diversity, equity and inclusion program. this is what he said about what he was signing yesterday. >> we're supposed to have this big red wave and other than like florida and iowa, i didn't see a red wave across this country. and so, i think the party has developed a culture of losing. i think that there's not accountability. what results are you producing for people? that's really what matters. you can sit there and talk about cable news, social media, all these other things that people are fixated on. how are you going to be able to actually bring about big change to make people's lives better? >> so that was while he was signing -- he was making these comments about this. that was his referencing what he keeps jabbing at trump saying there's this culture of losing in the republican party. basically saying that trump is to blame for it. >> yeah. look, it's a tough argument to make when trump is beating you by 20 points in most national polls, right? i think his launch, which we expect to be imminent here is
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really a key, key moment for desantis. obviously for all candidates, right? if he doesn't show he can gain ground against trump at this point in time, he is the guy the people who don't like donald trump are pinning their hopes on. that depends on them thinking he can beat trump. if he doesn't get a big boost from this, if he doesn't close that gap, they're going to start looking around, is there someone else can be our anti-trump guy if it's not ron desantis? >> what was the front of the new york post, remember, a few months ago? i'm not going to remember. defuture? >> that was right after the election. >> i'm saying, right. it's amazing to see the gap now between them in the polling. i know he is not officially running yet, but i wonder what you think what caused that? >> there's a couple thing. that was immediately after the 2022 midterms when donald trump was getting a lot of blame for the underperformance, desantis mentioned there. desantis won this huge, massive victory. but now what we're seeing, too, is before desantis, a lot of his politics were centered on covid. it's not as salient as it used
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to be. donald trump is very effectively parlaying the indictment in manhattan the durham report he'll seize on, of course. hey look, they're coming to get me because they really want to get you. it resonates. >> it is still early, though. we should note. we have some time to go. >> 100%. >> what you hear from desantis' allies, look how handily he won re-election and how his political success has changed from when he first was elected to when he was re-elected and the question, of course, whether or not that can translate on the national stage. we still don't know. >> yeah. look, you know, last november he ran against a guy who used to be republican and became a democrat. donald trump switched parties. donald trump is not charlie kris. ron desantis has his work cut out for him and very clearly trying to run to donald trump's right by signing these policy measures. where that falls short -- >> so many of them. >> yeah. the problem is he's trying to make up for trump's personality, which is very aggressive and anti-establishment by doing legislative stuff. just isn't the same resonance. i think voters feel that
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distinction. >> trump is criticizing desantis for the abortion bill he signed as well. >> right. >> a lot of dynamics here at play. we'll see how it only changes once he's official flit race. thank you for joining us this morning. overnight in ukraine, there was a complex assault that's a quote on the capital of kyiv, the eighth attack on the city in just this month alone. the late fst from the ground. the $48 billion aid package that congress passed for ukraine in december is likely to run out this summer. a major question of what's next? former u.n. ambassador john bolton is here to talk about that and much more. ♪ how white do you think your teeth really are? let's try the tissue test. ooof, still yellow. whitening toothpaste can only do so much. there's toothpaste white, and there's crest 3d whitestrips white.
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♪ we have new video just in overnight showing bright flashes in the sky over kyiv. of course the capital of ukraine during a russian air raid. the head of the kyiv city administration said it was a complex assault from multiple directions simultaneously and that the attack was exceptional in its density. the official added that most were detected and destroyed. this is the eighth attack on kyiv happening just since the beginning of this month.
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the commander in chief of the armed forces of ukraine also said overnight russia attacked ukraine with 18 missiles and various types all across the country they were intercepted by air defense forces. we are told from the russian defense ministry claiming they destroyed one of those american patriot missile systems. we'll see what the u.s. says about that. cnn's international diplomatic editor nic robertson is live in eastern ukraine. tell what you say you've been seeing on the ground. >> reporter: so what we understand is these missiles that were targeted on kyiv came in from the north, from the south and from the east. launched by air, launched from land and also launched by the sea. perhaps most significant, six of them launched from aircraft were hypersonic, these super fast mice siels that are very hard to intercept. all of them intercepted. the cruise missiles that were fired from ships in the black sea to the south of ukraine, all of those intercepted or neutralized. there were three of the large land-based missile systems fired
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it seems from russian territory towards kyiv. those intercepted. we heard from ukrainian officials recently that the russians are trying to penetrate, trying to find a way to penetrate the air defenses in kiev. i think what we're witnessing here is the fact that the ukrainians at least in their capital have substantial air defenses. it's a whole lot different down here close to the front lines in the east of ukraine. there are air defenses. they're aren't as many, not as effective, not a sophisticated. a town was hit overnight, an apartment building crushed there. the fight inside the town of bakhmut still continues. the wagner mercenary boss ef jenny prigozhin claims an american fighter was killed. there is no evidence yet to back this up. he says he will be -- the body will be returned and repatriated to the united states. prigozhin, though, has very little credibility and all about propaganda. this cannot be taken at face
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value. >> certainly can't. we asked the united states for their response as well. nic, thank you. the $48 billion ukraine aid package that congress approved in december could dry up by this summer according to the bipartisan center for strategic and international studies raising fresh concerns over what will happen once that funding runs out. with a republican-controlled house and spending stalled because of on going debt ceiling talks, more funding for the war-torn nation may be harder to sell this time around. we'll talk about that and whole lot more with former trump national security adviser john bolton. ambassador, good morning. >> glad to be with you. >> where do you think this goes funding from the united states from congress given the two things i just mentioned? >> well, i don't think further funding for ukraine really is seriously in trouble. i think what's in trouble and has been for some time is the lack of a clear american and nato strategy how to bring this war to a successful conclusion. this constant debate over whether we ship this weapon system or that weapon system means in the aggregate these weapons are not being used
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effectively as they could be to help achieve the objective of getting the russians out of ukraine. that's what we need to hear. >> can i ask you on the point of how this ends? it was stunning to hear what former president trump said to kaitlan in the cnn town hall last week about the fact that he thinks he would have been able to end the war in 24 hours. here that is. >> if i'm president, i will have that war settled in one day, 24 hours. >> how would you set thal war in one day? >> i'll meet with putin. i'll meet with zelenskyy. they both have weaknesses and they both have strengths. within 24 hours that war will be settled. it will be over. it will be absolutely -- >> do you want ukraine to win this war? >> i don't think in terms of winning and losing. >> i wonder what it was like for you to sit there and listen to those answers. >> well, here is the silver lining. those answers show why donald trump is not fit to be president of the united states. no rational person believes that you can get the ukrainians and the russians to agree how to resolve it in 24 hours. the very fact he says he doesn't
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think in terms of winning and losing shows he utterly out of touch what the war is all about and what the implications of russia's aggression against ukraine are all around the world. >> you once said that he barely knew where ukraine was. and his notion that -- one thing he repeated that night as well is he said if he was in office that putin would not have invaded ukraine. >> yeah. trump has this impression that foreign leaders, especially adversaries hold him in high regard, that he's got a good relationship with xi jinping, vladimir putin, kim jong-un. i believe they think he's a laughing fool. and the idea that somehow his presence in office would have deterred putin is flatly wrong. if anything, if trump had won a second term and done what i think he intended to do, which is get out of nato, putin would have just waited and let him do it and even the weakening of
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nato would have made it a lot easier for the russians to have prevailed. >> turning to what's happening in turkey right now in this run-off in two weeks. you said that erdogan, the turkish president, is a donald trump of turkish elections. if erdogan does not remain in power, what does that mean for the nato alliance, for the united states vis-a-vis ukraine? >> well, i think there's a lot of question exactly how far erdogan went to try to fix the first round, steal the election. let's be blunt about it. really international attention has got to be focussed on the next two weeks to see if he steals the second round. i'm afraid if he wins that there will be real damage done to the nato alliance. i think we need to consider whether to suspend or even expel turkey. if erdogan is defeated, however, i think there's every reason to think that turkey will return to being a more normal nato member, not necessarily in every respect, but it would be a significant plus not only in
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europe where we face the ukraine situation, but the middle east where erdogan has what can only be described as neo auto mist aspirations to create a greater turkey. this is gravely threatening in already unstable region. >> we'll find out in two weeks what that run-off looks like. back here at home yesterday, john durham issued that pretty scathing report about the fbi. he was looking into the investigations of the russia probe. the report was scathing. he faulted them for starting the investigation. but there weren't any of the block buster revelations that trump had been promising or his allies saying it was the crime of the century. you once called the mueller information a witch hunt. do you still stand by that comment? >> well, i was struck at how much of durham's report followed the department of justice inspector general investigation of the investigation of russia collusion. and i think durham hit it on the head when he said there was a
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predisposition to investigate trump. i've had a lot of dealings with the fbi over many years beginning back in the reagan administration when i served at the department of justice. i think it's an outstanding institution. i think 99% of the people in the fbi are patriotic americans, really salt of the earth. but there are a number of them over the years who think they walk on water. and i think a lot of those people were involved in hillary clinton investigation in 2016, and in the trump investigation. i think what the ig and the durham report show is that their power went to their head. and that is dangerous in an institution like the fbi. >> you can criticize that. do you still think the mueller probe in and of itself into what it was looking into and the charges against the russians was a witch hunt? >> there was no evidence of collusion at all. what they looked at in the case of russian context with the trump campaign on the part of the campaign were incompetence and stupidity, not an effort to collude with the russians. >> yeah. they found the links --
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>> believe me. if i thought there was evidence of donald trump colluding with russia, i would be getting it out is there. there just isn't any for good or ill. >> can i ask you one other question before we go, another comment trump made speaking of the rule of law last wednesday night is he left the door open to pardoning people who were charged with assaulting cops on january 6th, the proud boys convicted of seditious conspiracy, what did you make of him saying that he would consider pardoning most of them? >> i think it's virtually treasonist for the president to say he would pardon people who are trying to disrupt the work of congress. another example that he's not fit to be president. anybody wants to look what a trump administration looked like pardoning the people who rioted on january 6th, that's all you need to know. >> john bolton, as always, thank you for joining us. >> glad to be with you. >> appreciate it. okay. a question this morning about your health. do you use sugar substitutes?
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stewart, folks, at 81 years young. the business tycoon on the cover as well as singer-songwriter kim petras, who is the magazine's second transgender cover model and in a statement "sports illustrated" says while the industry waivers on the arbitrary negotiation of beauty, showcasing the women of today, the women shaping the future. so happy to bring in the editor and chief of glamour, sam berry, reinventing glamour and showing all of the sides of beauty every age, every shape, color. talk martha stewart. >> i loved it. i loved not only martha, right, we can come to her, 81 years of age, the oldest "sports illustrated" swimsuit model cover and i think it was interesting. i saw it being shared all over social yesterday. it was nice to see people saying she looks good, so hot. and they weren't using the qualifier for her age because
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she looks hot, period. >> she does. >> if the domestic republic, it was shot. we have seen the tease from martha, on her instagram, put photos of her poolside. what's nice about martha, i think, she is the mother of reinvention. "the new york times" said do not try to pinchle hole her. she had a catering business in the '70s, lifestyle empire in the '90s, now snoop dogg's bff and now cover model. >> were you surprised? >> no. there was a really defined what a cover star would look like, a certain age, looked a certain way. what you are seeing from "sports illustrated" yesterday on the covers, including age, size diversity, they had a trans woman on the cover.
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you are seeing that they are leaning in magazines are representing what is happening in the world around them and it's not this finite version of what is sexy swimsuit model looks like. >> 1961, that's martha stewart. >> a college woman of the year. >> yeah. also we are seeing a glamour, older women covers do really well. last year we shot jane fonda 60 years after she was first shot for glamour. a 98-year-old on the cover. and what we are seeing not only the women in the decades, '60s, '70s, '80s, the women in their 20s want to know what they can learn from these women, their life story. martha has a lot of life she is telling us about. >> what are the lessons they have? most people think they know martha stewart but you list add lot of things that aren't as obvious about her. >> she is so amazing at
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reinventing herself. she has gone through trials and tribulations in the past and i think she is -- she never gets bored and i think she said in the "sports illustrated" story, if i am done changing i'm done. she is constantly change hg, constantly surprising her audience. she is one of these women that are good -- i don't know if you follow her on instagram. >> i definitely follow her on instagram. instagram is amazing. she never takes herself too seriously. >> humor. >> she will be like i had this amazing salmon, caviar -- >> it's a good life. >> she is a lot of pilates for the cover. >> it shows. >> thank you. and "cnn this morning" continues right now. this individual caused mass destruction in your office, too? >> yeah, after he was denied access to more staff members he
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could hurt, he turned his fury on the office. broken glass, destroyed computers, some furniture. >> that's congressman gerry connolly speaking after a man attacked staffers at his field office in his district. the suspect now under arrest this morning and the congressman says his staffers have non-life-threatening injuries. one was just on her first day on the job. we are going to get started with the five thins to know for this tuesday, may 16, 2023. president biden set to meet with hu house speaker kevin mccarthy as time is running out to lift the dimt limit and avoid a catastrophic default. >> expecting a crucial vote on an abortion ban in north carolina. republican state lawmakers are trying to override the democratic governor's veto and push it through. >> also this morning, congress is going to be taking a hard look at the dangers of artificial intelligence. the man behind the groundbreaking but controversial
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