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showdown at the white house again. tom la top law makes as the u.s. barrels towards what could be an economic disaster. is either side ready to make a deal on the debt ceiling? today could get ugly. >> plus russian missiles attacking kyiv in a horrifying attack. the battlefield is fast changing in this war and we are following the very latest. >> and just hours from now, north carolina republicans could override the governor's veto of an abortion ban. the governor pleading for at least one republican to break ranks during today's vote. we are following these major developing stories and many more all coming in right here to "cnn news central."
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all right. so in just a few minutes they're going to try again. president biden, speaker mccarthy will continue their debt standdown face to face at the white house. biden is hosting mccarthy and three other congressional leaders to once again try to get closer at least to a deal to raise the debt ceiling, as has been done dozens of times. they have just over two weeks to do it before a potential u.s. default. somehow it is looking like the two sides have dug in even more since last week's meeting. we go to capitol hill. melanie, we've seen this before, right? we're making progress, we're not making progress, it's sort of the definition of a game of chicken. the trouble is the economy hangs in the balance here. what's really happening? is there any real progress? do we expect any real probably in the white house? >> reporter: i will tell you, jim, staff have been working behind the scenes to come up with a potential number of policy options for a potential deal but there has been a
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central sticking point that has already emerged and that is to put tougher restrictions on. and speaker mccarthy said it is a red line for him, that it absolutely must be included in any deal that is negotiated with the white house. but democrats say that's a nonstarter for them. take a listen. >> every data point shows that and it helps people move forward. so the public wants it, both parties want it. the idea that they want to put us into a default because they will not work with on that is ludicrous to me. >> what the republicans are engaged in is just a cynical game to see if by tying people up on one more requirement and one more hurdle and one more twist and one more turn that some people will walk away. >> the white house may give in
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on this, though? >> they should not. >> are you going to -- >> i cannot support a deal that is only about hurting people. >> so both sides really digging in there and there are other sticking points we should mention as well. one of them is the length of spending caps. democrats only onwant about two years of spending caps, republicans are pushing for as many as ten years. and there's the question of how long the debt ceiling question will last. the white house wants a longer hike, republicans pushing for a shorter hike. the two sides are still very far apart. this meeting at the white house today will be critical to see whether they can break the impasse and whether they actually have path forward with very little time left on the calendar. >> could the white house make a deal that does not have democratic votes? we'll see. melanie, thank you so much.
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j jeremy diamond is at the white house. possibility the president shortens his trip because of the ongoing negotiations? >> reporter: that appears to be exactly the case. the white house was very clear that the president is leaving tomorrow for japan, but the white house national security spokesman saying they are reevaluating the rest of the trip and told me directly a cancellation could happen of those last two stops, new guinea and australia where president biden is set to meet with the quad members, a key issue as it relates to u.s. leadership in the indo pacific. listen to john kirby moments ago. >> we're reevaluating the rest of the trip right now. i can speak to hiroshima, i can speak to the g-7. we're evaluating the rest of the trip. as you might expect, should there be changes made or need to be made to the rest of the trip, we will absolutely make proper notification. what's going on right now is
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we we're hopping on air force one tomorrow, heading to japan and have a good meeting at the g-7 and we'll evaluate the rest of the trip and see where things go. >> president biden was just moments away from sitting down with congressional leaders here at the white house for only the second meeting between these leaders about a potential spending deal to avert a potential default, which could have in just over two weeks. amid that, you saw as melanie reported the white house is getting pressure from some democrats not to cave too far on the work requirements. the white house press secretary leaving the door open to the president's supporting strengthening of some work requirements as the president did himself this weekend. she also said the president won't support anything that takes health care coverage away from people. that could be an indication that work requirements on medicaid could potentially be a red line, but i will tell you, jim, one thing that is for sure is there is an acknowledgement in this white house they are going to need to agree to some spending
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cuts here. the length of time of that is a key sticking point but it's set to be hammered out as the president sits down with leaders at the white house. >> that in itself is movement. initially the white house position was no negotiation whatsoever on these issues. dd deadline is getting close. >> just plain stupid, that's the word from some lawmakers as they grilled former executives among some of the most colossal bank collapses. the storformer ceos took a barr of questions from the senate banking committee. it's not just the bank executives that senators are watching closely, it's also the fed and the fdic. >> that's right, boris. there's really more than enough blame to go around here, including for the regulators themselves. during a house hearing today, michael barr, the top banking regulator at the federal reserve, he admitted that bank
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supervisors, they failed to escalate problems that they identified at silicon valley bank quickly enough or forcefully enough and barr says he takes full responsibility for these failures at the fed but he declined to say whether anyone at the fed would actually lose their jobs over this. now during the separate senate hearing today, bank executives apologized for the harm caused by their bank failures, but they also tried to shift some of the blame elsewhere, including on the federal reserve's war on inflation. remember, these bank failures happened after the fed spiked interest rates. and as rates went up, the value. bonds that banks were sitting on went down. that caused massive losses, especially at silicon valley bank. lawmakers, they blasted silicon valley bank for failing to hedge against this risk and minimize losses. listen to this exchange between republican senator john kennedy and the ceo of silicon valley
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bank. >> you made a really stupid bet that went bad, didn't you? >> senator -- >> and the taxpayers of america had to pick up the tab for your stupidity, didn't they? >> senator, there were a series of events, unprecedented events that occurred that led us to where we are today. >> no, this wasn't unprecedented. this was bone deep, down to the marrow stupid. >> now, harsh words there but really there was bipartisan condemnation of the bank ceos at this hearing. we also learned more about the scale of the deposit runs that these banks were facing. silicon valley bank ceo said customers yanked $42 billion from that bank in the span of just ten hours. he noted that amounted to a
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million dollars every second, just a staggering figure there that i think really puts an exclamation point here on just how fast these bank loans can happen in today's age of social media fueled rumors and how easy it is to move money around on mobile banks and of course when the banks themselves are mismanaging the situation. boris? >> yeah, a major concern as we look at these smaller and regional banks moving forward, even though there are assurances that these banks are now stable. matt egan are thank you so much for that. >> today the military claims major gains from the north and sou sou south of bakhmut. here it is. >> we're also learning more
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about the barrage of air strikes on kyiv overnight. russia claims it destroyed an american made patriot air defense system. a u.s. official tells cnn it was not destroyed but was likely damaged. nic, robertson is in eastern ukraine. tell us the latest from where you are. >> the air defense system, the patriot system, is being analyzed to see if it can be repaired where it is, if the damages are just light or if it needs to be taken somewhere else to be repaired by u.s. technicians. so that's the question at the moment. and the ukrainian government just doesn't comment on this sort of thing at all. it won't comment on what it will do to replace this or if it operate in part or what else it will bring in. what we know is kyiv has been a hugely important target for russia to hit with its missile systems, whether it's the drones
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or cruise missiles or hyper sonic missiles. it's been a huge priority target and therefore a huge priority place for the ukrainians to defend, which they've done effectively. they did it before the patriot system came in. they move their systems around the country depending on where the biggest threat is to troops and what their military operations are going to be. i don't think we're going to learn from the ukrainians what their next move is if this equipment needs to be repaired but the system they've got in place around the capitol until now have only been getting better. >> and, the head of the pro-russia wagner clapims a u.s citizens was killed. what can you tell us about that? >> reporter: there's always a lot of bluster and propaganda in what he tries to do. it's not clear at the moment certainly if u.s. officials,
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government officials have not been able to determine if what prigozhin is saying is true, backing the fight both for russians and ukrainians. they high numbers of casualties, both sides and we know it's a place that both american sut ses citizens have gone in to fight. so he may have the body of an american citizen. he has said, however, he would treat this man with respect and return him to u.s. officials. >> nic robertson live for us in eastern ukraine. thank you for the latest on this war. tech officials at the leading artificial technology companies asking lawmakers for them to be regulated.
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>> it will be so much better. you said it. give me a break. we're watching lawmakers meeting with president biden at the white house. top four congress an lional lea there. we saw president biden not say much. he was asked a number of questions. the president saying the meeting hasn't started so he didn't have a comment. he did say the border is doing much better since the expiration of title 42. obviously the covid era policy that allowed for quick deporting of migrants who crossed the border. we're of course going to be monitoring the meeting at the white house and bring you the very latest. so the tech chiefs finds some of the world's most
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advanced artificial intelligence products under oath. for the very first time the senators held a hearing about the rapidly growing technology and fears it could soon undermine our national security, job security and also elections. >> should we be worried about this for our elections? >> thank you, senator holly, for the questions. it's one of my areas of greatest concern given that we're going to face an election next year and these models are getting better. i think this is a significant area of concern. i do think some regulation would be quite wise on this topic. someone mentioned earlier it's something we really agree with, people need to know if they're talking live, if content might be generated or not. it's a great thing to do. >> that was sam altman, the parent company of chat gp, it can pretty much generate text of anything you ask it to.
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this about the moment we are finding ourselves in when it comes to a.i. >> i think people are worried and it's a legitimate worry because the way the early internet rolled out, it was gee whiz until the whole time, gee whiz, look at the rich guys, and they ms.ed evissed every singlet and i said what about murderers, what about suicides and they called me a bummer. >> that was kara swisher talking about social media and the internet. we'r we're listening right now so be the bummer on a.i. >> i think sam did a good job on being the bummer. that was in an interview we were talking about that issue. i've known him since the beginning of the internet when he had a startup that didn't
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quite work out the right way. but he's a very thoughtful and someone who is thinking about these issues and is warning congress right now as opposed to other internet executives, you know, in the past who have sort of glossed over the real problems that can exist. so there's all kind of bummers that could happen. anything you could imagine that's happened already sort of turbo charged. that's how you have to think about it. it pro it's probably an easy way to talk about it but if you imagine there's all kind of misinformation, it's going to be even nor misinformed, more convincing to people, give a lot of bad players a chance to shift people's opinions with a lot of false information. the worst thing, killer robots. i think that's what greg jeff r hinton talked about that's these could be self-learning robots
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that are soldiers essentially. >> killer robots. we think of some movies that we've seen almost as a reference point here but it's no joke. are there worst case scenarios that you think we can't even imagine? >> no, killer robots is pretty bad. i don't know -- >> aside from that. >> aside from killer robots, i i think what we have to do is look at what's happened. no one would have imagined a lot of the misinformation helped radicalize a lot of people, whether it was about vaccines, election fraud, et cetera, et cetera. that's on a basic level. this is on a quantum level of complexities. it generates images and whole texts. it can fake people. i think one of the senators faked himself. it can fake you and fake me. anybody that has enough audio certainly that can happen with. so you can have people saying things they didn't say. and it would be very convincing.
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again, it's like photo shop on steroids, it's like the internet on steroids, like facebook on steroids. that's how you have to think about it. >> we heard senator blumenthal and it turned out that wasn't even senator blumenthal. you can see how that can certainly be misused. we're hearing the a.i. companies and sam altman, they're endorsing this concept of regulation right now. do you have think ultimately they'll go the way of social media giant and resist it? >> i don't think so. i think they're not protected by section 230. you know, that's still being sorted out. they're not protected. they have liability here. that's been something that's made it easy for the social media companies to behave the way they have. in this case there is not regulation necessarily protecting the stuff so it has liability just like a car maker might. so there's that issue. but there needs to be a global body to talk about these issues,
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just there is on nuclear nonproliferation and things like that and the u.s. has to step up here. it can't just be the ftc. i just interviewed the head of the ftc, they're trying to use current laws but it's not enough. so we have to think about where it's going and maybe even contemplate a new department that looks at these digital issues much more strongly, staffed with experts and see what we can do from there. it's not the worst idea in the world. i know sam raised it today. >> we'll see what congress comes up with. i wonder if you think they're equipped to deal with it. obviously chuck schumer, he talked to so many a.i. experts to try to figure out legislation but can congress do this? are they equipped? >> well, congress passes laws on banks, on cars, on planes, all kind of things, pharmaceuticals. maybe it's not perfect but they're certainly capable of doing it. every now and then like today lindsey graham in his questions
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about -- and sam was trying very hard to differentiate and there is always one of those senators that do that but in general i have found lots and lots of senators and congress people, l k whether ken buck from colorado, senator klobuchar, there's always kind of people who really do know what they're talking about and are capable of taking the legislation and then you hire people to regulate just like there's people in the fda, people in the sec. again, not perfect but they're there to protect consumers and that should be of course the first order of business is protecting americans of the possibilities, just like they do on other things. >> that is especially encouraging hearing that coming from you. kara swisher, thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you. >> jim? >> north carolina republicans could override the democratic governor to implement a 12-week abortion ban in that state today. republicans there have a
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one-vote supermajority and need the support of every republican lawmaker to overrightde the governor's vieto. the governor is pleading for a single republican to stop it. >> we're going to work up until the last minute to try to get one republican to keep a promise, one republican that has some courage, one republican who is willing to stand up to his or her party and do the right thing here. >> cnn's isab a rosales joins u now. what is it looking like now? will the government get that one republican? >> well, jim, i can tell you that republican leadership in both chambers, the statehouse and the senate, they say that they believe that they've got the votes to successfully override the governor's veto.
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conventional political wisdom here would dictate and especially we're looking at the house here, this could all hinge at the house level, the speaker of the house is not going to call for a vote if he doesn't believe he's got the numbers here. so this call for a vote that didn't need to happen today could be a sign of confidence that they've got those numbers. having said all that, all eyes are definitely on two house republican members who have remained silent up until now about which way they're going to vote. you mentioned representative tr trisha koufium, she has a lengthy history of advocating and campaigning for abortion access. she switched up until recently here from a democrat over to republican, gaining all those national headlines and we've got representative ted davis, who was absent and was the only house republican who did not vote for senate bill 20. now, we've pulled up some abortion numbers from the cdc.
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94% of abortions in the state of north carolina happened before 13 weeks of pregnancy, but the pushback here, jim, on the bill goes beyond that. it goes to all of the paperwork and extra barriers that opponents say women and clinics will now be facing if this bill survives. >> quite a vote. hugely impactful in north carolina and perhaps a bellwether. >> still ahead, a major shake-up in the irs investigation of hunter biden. why a whistleblower who claims to have information in interference in that case has been removed. and later, a dangerous bee attack caught on camera in california. how a volunteer police officer survived a swarm. video you don't want to miss when we come back on "cnn news central."
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should get to the bottom of it. >> is that fact or fiction because if you believe the allegations of the whistleblower, d.o.j. still has its thumb on the scale regarding the hunter biden investigation. >> let's take you to capitol hill now. elena, do we know why this whistleblower and his unit were taken off the case? >> that's something that congress definitely wants to look into. this is an unnamed whistleblower who we know through the course of our reporting was an irs agent working on the criminal investigation into hunter biden. and he wrote to congress in a letter through his attorneys saying he was removed from this case, as well as his entire team and that it came at the request of the justice department. now his attorneys in this letter said that the move is clearly retaliatory and may constitute the on stroks of a congressional investigation. just to take a step back, we know federal prosecutors have been looking into hunter biden
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and investigating him for alleged tax crimes for years now. most of that investigative work has concluded but they're still waiting to learn more about charging decisions from the u.s. attorney in delaware. a lot of this does come as our colleague evan perez has heard that some of these agents working on this case felt they were removed from these discussions due to allegations of leaks. there's two main ways to look at it. one argument is this is a whistleblower who has information he wants to share with congress and he's being retaliated for doing that. the other argument is you clearly have someone who wants to speak publicly about a federal investigation but that comes as there are alleged leaks to the media element and you can't compromise the investigation. we're waiting to hear more and waiting to see when this whistleblower may come to congress and speak behind closed doors with some of these lawmakers. >> a potential meeting that republicans especially have been
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looking forward to. alana, thank you for that reporting. >> the justice department has filed five criminal cases of stealing technology for russia russia and iran. cnn senior justice department evan perez stolfollowing the st. russia, china, iran, three of the biggest national intelligence risks. what do we know they were stealing and how far did they get in. >> one of them was an engineered apple who was stealing the source code that would help the chinese build autonomous ve vehicles, self--driving cars, for example. in the meantime he amend to get to the airport, get to china and disappeared. a greek national set up companies in the netherlands to
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buy aircraft parts that are banned for sale to russia in part because of what they're doing in ukraine and according to the justice department, that person now is under arrest. you know, the kind of technologies that should not be making its way. we talked to matt axelrod, who is undersecretary of the commerce department about efforts to try to stop the u.s. technologies from getting into drones being used in that war. listen. >> you know, it's something that we're highly focused on, which is making sure that western parts that were able to reduce and restrict the flow of western parts so they don't end up in missiles and drones that are killing civilians and soldiers in ukraine. >> jim, you've seen all those pictures, iranian drones clearly made with parts that come from u.s. technologies. they're trying to figure out how to stop that flow. >> there's always a middle man looking to make a buck to get around sanctions. a lot of money in that business.
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at glendale high school in springfield, missouri. we'll have her and her mom on "the lead" coming up. she clearly was in violation of school policy because she was using her phone in the on position during classroom hours and then there's the counterargument that it's very easy it look what she was doing and see her as a whistle blower. he had used the "n" word before. he was actually using it. it posted on social media and she's being punished and her mom and her lawyer, they're challenging the three-day suspension. look, however you look at whether she violated school policy, i mean, she was a whistleblower. she got a teacher who was using the "n "" word in front of students and brought the attention to the world.
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>> we do have some sound. >> let's run that clip. >> [ bleep ]. >> you say right now as a teacher if you want to keep your job, this isn't a threat -- >> i'm not calling anyone a [ bleep ]. i can say the word. it's not -- >> why are you saying it? >> how does that have anything to do with geometry? >> it doesn't. i think this young lady did something in the finest tradition of whistle blowing and speaking truth to power. but, again, she did technically violate school policy and it is certainly interesting that the school decided to punish her, even though what she did was bring an injustice to light. >> there's the policy and then there's the spirit of the policy. jake tapper, we look forward to watching more on "the lead." we do not have enough doctors. the country is dealing with a
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the doctor is not in. in fact, there is no doctor and that is a real problem right now across the country. new data showing the u.s. is facing an ongoing short age of health care workers. jacqueline, i know you recently sat down with senator bernie sanders on this issue. what were his concerns? >> yeah, senator sanders told me he's very concerned about health care worker shortage. i met with him at the moorehouse
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school of medicine and he was leading with leaders of historically black colleges and he told me what it means for the future and what it means for black and brown communities and he really broke down specifically which health care workers we don't have enough of. have a listen. >> we don't have enough doctors, we don't have enough nurses, we don't have enough psychologists or counselors for addiction, we don't have enough pharmacists and that problem, as bad as it is in general, is more acute in minority communities. >> and what he means by more acute, we know that, for instance, 13% of the u.s. population is black but only 5.7% of doctors are black, brianna, so we see that the health care workforce diversity does not reflect the diversity of patients that are served. we also know that many experts
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say if we can address this health care workforce shortage, we need more than 17,000 primary care practitioners, more than 12,000 dental health workers, more than 8,000 mental health workers. if we can address this shortage as well as the lack of diversity, that can help reduce health disparities that we see across communities, brianna. >> we see those health disparities in outcomes, in the mortality rate of mothers, how pain is treated. it dwgoes on and on and on. thank you for that. jim? >> have you ever used the dog ate my homework excuse? boris has. this next story, they take it to the next level. how a driver tried to blame his furry co-pilot whehen he got pupulled over for speeding. stay with us
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you may have heard the excuse i know i've used before, it was the dog, i swear! one guy apparently tried to unleash that to dodge a drunk driving bust. police in springfield, colorado say they pulled over a driver for speeding on saturday night and the officer watched the man switch seats with his dog, putting the pup behind the wheel. police say the suspect claimed he was not the one driving and that he tried to run off. he made it about 20 yards. the cops were able to retrieve him. they arrested him on suspicion of dui. apparently the dog had a rough night and he was let off. >> the dogman ran off, the dog
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not. >> you know why the dog was sober? >> why, brianna? >> because he couldn't hold his liquor. >> i wish we had drums on set. >> she was so excited for that. >> i prepared that pun. >> that was pretty good. that's really, you know -- >> they have to laugh at me. they work with me. >> we should also point out the dog is not the random chihuahua. >> can you imagine this chihuahua, if someone said that was driving their car. >> lawyers have reached out to cnn. >> that's it for us. "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. this just in, president biden just cancelled the second part of his overseas trip. is that a sign that the debt ceiling negotiations are going poorly? "the lead" starts right now. is the suunited states, are you and i just
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