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tension for her. >> a rare glimpse into the former president's private life in the white house. it's not the first time the obamas have discussed their marriage publicly, but, you know, the former first lady she made an incredibly candid admission of her own recently. remember this. >> there were ten years where i couldn't stand my husband, you know? >> you say that. >> ten whole years. and guess when it happened? when those kids were little. >> it's amazing to hear them talk so epenly and take the risk of doing that, the vulnerability and knowing it would connect with so many. thanks so much for joining us. "ac 360" begins now. good evening. tonight we are seeing the latest front line in the battle over abortion in america in north carolina. we're waiting right now for republican lawmakers in that state to reaffirm a new abortion bill that the state's democratic
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governor roy cooper said last night in his broadcast would turn the clock back 50 years for women. he vetoed the republican passed measure which could ban abortion after 12 weeks and impose other limitations making it harder to get even before that 12-week period. this afternoon the state senate overrode his veto, so now we're waiting to hear from the house where this all could hinge on a single vote. cnn's diane gallagher in raleigh for us tonight. where does the governor's veto stand now? >> reporter: as we speak the north carolina house is debating over this bill, senate bill 20 and whether or not they'll override that veto. a little earlier today after about an hour debate in the senate they chose and passed that veto override in a party 30-20 vote. that was the first part of this
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two-part process. this is when it gets tricky here because it's a numbers game. in order to override the veto in the house after this particular debate happening right now, they need to have three-fifths of the voting andresent members there. now, if all republicans and all democrats are there, republicans do have enough members if they all vote to override, but that is the key. they have such a narrow super majority that if one member chooses to defect or chooses not to vote, then the veto override fails and this bill does not become law. if all republicans vote together tonight, then this bill will be law, anderson. we expect a vote to take place some time in the next hour or so as debate continues there on the floor. >> when i spoke to the governor last night on the program there were a couple of lawmakers that he was sort of focusing his hopes on as maybe switching their votes or just not showing up to vote or not choosing to
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vote. >> reporter: that's right. so since this bill was first really introduced, and that was exactly two weeks ago tonight. it passed through both chambers in just 48 hours. we're talking about jamming this through the system rapid warp speed here we've been operating, has since been vetoed. and after and leading up to the governor's veto he was sort of chris crossing the state trying to court constitch wbts of these four republican lawmakers, leaning back on past comments they had made on abortion access. two of the lawmakers spoke out against the governor's pressure campaign saying they didn't feel their past statements had conflicted with the current way this law is written. one of those lawmakers, senator michael lee, did vote to override the veto in the senate, but the other three members are in the house. now, representative john bradford said he thinks the governor is wrong, but those other two members representative
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trisha koffam and representative ted davis have been quiet about this. ted davis did not vote for the bill when it came up roughly two weeks ago in the house. however, trisha kaufman did vote for it. and when he ran oz a democrat she ran on a pro-abortion access platform so much so she actually helped introduce a bill that would have codified roe v. wade into law. we'll see how she votes on this tonight. >> we'll continue to monitor what is going on in north carolina throughout the hour. we'll come back to diane to cover what's happening on that vote. coming up next right now ukraine, air-raid sirens sounding once again tonight in kyiv and across the country. this follows a russian missile aberaj on the capital and american made patriot defense
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systems. we've just gotten some new footage in bakhmut, in eastern ukraine, the town that's seen intense fighting sometimes block blie bl by block, house by house. it gives you a sense what it's like fighting street to street or what the sounds are like in bakhmut. >> hey over there! hey, 11:00! 11:00!
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hey, hey, hey! >> intense fighting there. the soldier's eye view for a bat of a city that's become a symbol of ukraineren resistance as well as a potential focal point for the next phase of the war. sam, i know you've just seen that video we just played as well. based on what your sources are telling you, is that what's happening all around bakhmut right now, or what does it look like? >> reporter: well, i've been speaking to members of the international legion who have soldiers fighting in bakhmut, and they do describe it being exactly like that. now, coincidently that voice you can hear there is to my ear undoubtedly english, southernelish, probably essex or east london. so it does narrow down the type of person fighting there in
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terms of where they may come from, but clearly it is intense. that fighting is brutal, it is daily, and they also tell me they frequently try to get the russians to invest into houses which have already been prebooby trapped so they can blow them up on top of the russians-heads. really brutal and contrast to the anti-septic campaign going on in the air with a series now of very intensive air bombardments over kyiv culminating last night in very concentrated focused air bombardment. this is how it unfolded. a new russian tactic in the air assault against kyiv. concentrated fire by missiles and drones, testing ukraine's air defenses, probing for weaknesses. ukraine says it shot down 18
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missiles including six, russia's hypersonic weapon. it was once considered invulnerable to air defenses, now not so much. >> translator: six of these missiles were fired in the direction of the capital. they were all destroyed by our air defense. >> reporter: russia has been trying to overwhelm ukraine with air attacks for months. the results, though, have been more pledges of air defenses from the u.s. and especially the u.k. and now even germany after months of holding back. on the ground the conflict grinds on in bakhmut. wagner mercenary leader releasing a new video reporting to show him in the city. he demonstrates uncharacteristic sympathy for an alleged american volunteer fighting for ukraine.
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>> translator: we will hand him over to the united states of america, put him in a coffin, cover him with the american flag with respect because he did not die in his bed as a grandpa, but he died at war and most likely a worthy death. >> reporter: "the washington post" has reported that u.s. intelligence documents suggest that he tried to trade russian intelligence for cedeing tear tor around bakhmut. russia denies the claims. but in the kremlin they might one day be considered treason making this town perhaps a safer place than moscow for russia's top mercenary. >> and sam, it's obviously remarkable if ukraine really was able to shoot down all those russian hypersonic mittsales. overall how the ukrainian air defense system has been faring against this latest onslaught. >> reporter: well, first of all, the russians claim that they weren't firing that many
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hypersonic missiles, and so the ukrainians couldn't have shot them down. they're also saying that they destroyed one of the patriot batteries, and u.s. officials have admitted one of the patriot batteries was indeed damaged but not destroyed, so they have been vulnerable. they are the primary target, i think, for many of these air strikes at least in the initial phases, but the contribution being made by the united states and a lot of other nato allies, they're not just patriot missiles, they're one of the important batteries and there are almost dozens of different types of air defenses now operating in -- across ukraine that have been given by other nations that make an absolutely vital difference in this war, preventing the russians from overwhelming the airspace and controlling it, and that is something that from day one the russians were assumed that they would be able to do.
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and now more than a year into the war they most certainly can't at least not yet, anderson. >> sam kylie, appreciate it. be careful. throughout the war we've turned to retired army four star general wesley clark for insight. he's also a former nato supreme allied commander. general clark, you've seen the news out of ukraine. what does it say it you about the effectiveness of the patriot systems versus russia's hypersonic systems because they've been touted as being nearly impossible to intercept. >> that's what mr. putin said, but it turns out the patriot can intercept a hypersonic missile. after all the patriot was designed to intercept ballistic missiles that were coming. the patriot has the radar, the guidance system, and the energy in the missile to be able to strike an incoming hypersonic missile. >> do you know how large russia's supply of hypersonic missiles is? can it afford to keep using them in waves of attacks?
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>> i think it's really a logistics issue for both sides. the question is how many patriot missiles can ukraine afford to fire? and as i look at it, anderson, a strategic calculus by the russians to try to exhaust the ukrainian's air defense missiles prior to the time ukraine launches its manu tack so russia can deploy its tactical aircraft in an air to ground role against the ukrainian counter offensive. >> we saw the founder of the wagner group claim an american fighter had been killed in bakhmut. do you think russia's made a mistake focusing so much of its forces on bakhmut? not only the wagner group but russia's main army as well. >> well, it certainly seems to me like a mistake. we may never know why they did it, but it seems it's become a symbolic objective and that the russian high command has obviously told its generals take
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bakhmut, don't care what it costs, just get it. and so strong countless assaults in there, they've taken a lot of losses, and now they're vulnerable to actually being encircled by ukrainians and this would be a huge symbolic defeat for russia. it might open a way to a surprise offensive that goes right through bakhmut by the ukrainians at the heart of the russian positions. >> what do you think a ukrainian offensive will hope to accomplish? >> ideally, the ukrainians are going to get an offensive going in the south towards crimea, but we have to be prepared to be surprised. there's going to be more than one access of attack. there may be one in the north, one in the east towards bakhmut or donetsk, and one in the south or maybe they'll go across near kherson. we don't really know, and they
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probably -- they have multiple aumgs at this stage. so, anderson, the counter offensive probably under way right now. we're just not seeing it, and they're doing reconnaissance, and of course they're attacking the logistics and they're trying to prevent the redeployment of russian forces by selective strikes. we're seeing just the beginning of that with the storm shadow missiles that the u.k. has provided, so it looks to me like the opening stage of four months of counter offensive. >> wesley clark, appreciate your time, thank you. >> thank you very much. next tonight a serious security breach involving an intruder getting into and out of the home of president biden's national security adveezer somehow without his secret service agents on his round the clock detail you've been noticing. also the very latest on talks to head off the possible calamity over the debt ceiling, the former treasury secretary larry summers helping us
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this time last night we were talking about the attack on two staffers at congressman jerry connolly's office. somehow in the middle of the night an inaretruder still managed to get inside his house. jake sullivan confronted the person, the man left also apparently without being deteched by his security detail. cnn's evan perez joins us now with the latest.
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evan, how did this happen? >> that's what the secret service is now investigating, anderson. obviously it's a very scary situation for jake sullivan. this happened during the weekend of the white house correspondent's dinner in late april. he confronted this person inside his home. luckily nobody was hurt, there was no threat made. he and his family were safe, but the fact is this intruder got into the house despite the fact he has a security detail, a secret service security detail posted outside of the home. and not only was the person not seen going in, was not seen going out either, anderson. >> what is the secret service saying? >> they say they take this very seriously and doing an investigation. i'll read you a part of the statement issued today. it says modification tuesday the protective posture have also been made to ensure additional security layers are in place as we conduct this comprehensive review. that signals, anderson, that they're going to take a look at
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the people who were there that night, that if they need additional train, if they need disciplinary action. those things are also being look at. >> and is it clear who this person is? i assume there's some video somewhere of this person. >> well, it appears that jake sullivan knows this person or at least recognized what happened here as somebody who was perhaps intoxicated and went to the wrong house. but the problem is nobody was arrested, the person was able to leave the premises, leave the home without being discussed or being talked to, rather, by the security detail. so there has been no arrest, there is not going to be any prosecution because it appears at least from what the incident was reported it was just a mistaken identity, a mistaken home rather that this person went into. >> but jake sullivan knows who the person is in. >> well, it's not clear he knows who it is. >> he thought the person was -- >> he saw the person, right,
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exactly, and he recognized this person obviously did not belong there. >> got it. evan perez, appreciate it. perspective now from former secret service agent jonathan -- obviously this is not great the agents involved in this. how does it happen? >> that's the underlying question here. that's why the secret service needs to do this investigation, what they call a mission assurance investigation. and that's looking at every single policy and procedure apply to protection not just around national security advisor sullivan but across the entire enterprise of the secret service ensuring that the mission of the secret service isn't tainted, that there's no issue. they want to make sure this is an isolated incident, that these two agents did not follow protocol and reassure basically, you know, the public that the secret service is not facing systemic problems. i mean, the real big issue i see here is that these were not new
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agents. these are seasoned veteran agents. they're the best of the best. they're on the president's detail. so while they were detailed to say sullivan that evening, they're a member of biden's team, so they could at any time be protecting the president. so this is why the secret service is undertaking this process to isolate, you know, was there a problem with just these agents and restore credibility back into the service. >> according to the report sullivan told them he believed he was intoxicated. if that's the case this wasn't like some ninja coming in. this was a drunk person -- >> we think. >> we think. we don't know, but even that doesn't speak well for the agents if some drunk person is able to -- >> it's almost worse. if there's someone stumbling drunk around the neighborhood and you got into the backyard and got into an unlocked door, you got into the residence and
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you went face-to-face with your protectee that's about as bad as it gets, and there'll be reper cushions for this. the director will hold agents accountable if they failed in their mission, and i think that's really important for the director of the secret service right now is transparency and accountability in this issue, make sure that the investigation moves forward in a very open manner. >> he would have obviously had cameras, i mean if they have agents on detail on the property i would assume they also have security cameras setup. >> don't want to get too far into what the security protocols are, but we have cameras everywhere, so that's got to be part of the investigation is, one, how did this happen and how do you prevent it from ever happening again. >> the incident at the pelosi house in snan, which the secret service were not responsible for protection there, but i mean are there lessons learned -- that federal agencies have learned from that attack, you think? >> well, the lessons are usually
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set by the secret service. again, they're the best in the world at protection, and they apply a protective methodology unlike anybody else whether it's part of the advanced process or the day to day physical activity of protection. they have to understand what failed in this moment. why were these agents at the house unaware that there was somebody on the property? it's a threat. we have to call it what it is. it wasn't just a person stumbling around the neighborhood drunk. that is a potential threat that needs to be addressed immediately because this could have gone a whole different direction. >> jonathan, appreciate it. thanks so much. still ahead we're checking -- excuse me. we're checking on the stat of debt ceiling negotiations after both parties plet at the white house today, and then former treasury secretary larry summers joins us to complain what could happen to jobs or bank accounts or livelihoods should the u.s. default t on its debt.
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to borrow the u.s. could default on its debt june 1st. one republican congressman ken buck told cnn today a brief default would not be hin izwords the end of the world. most economists and wall street analysts are so optimistic about tat. former treasury secretary larry summers jones me now. congressman buck says he didn't think it's the end of the world if the world briefly defaults. what would happen? what would be the repercussions for most americans? >> this is not an experiment we want to do. it could mean people don't get their social security checks, and a lot of people who are living hand to mouth. it could mean that we have people fighting in dangerous environments overseas who don't get their pay on time and at a time when we've still got people in the military on food stamps, that's got to be a serious thing. we've already seen the spread on u.s. bonds, the interest rate
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that the united states has to pay to borrow go up, and that means higher taxes for all of us. and it's got to affect our standing as a serious country in the world that people are wondering whether the united states is going to pay its debt. so it's an experiment, but it's one of those experiments like taking a wander with your eyes closed in traffic that might turn out okay if you do it, but why would you want to try that kind of experiment? >> are there economic consequences for coming close to a debt default, i mean if we don't ultimately breach the debt limit? >> we still have a lower credit rating as a country because we came close to the debt limit and default in the 2011 period. we got downgraded, and we haven't been upgraded since. the debt that the government's issuing right now, some of it has higher interest rate than it
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otherwise would. now, it's not that the interest rate is far higher. on the other hand, when you have $30 trillion of debt you don't really have to have much higher interest rate for it to be pretty expensive. and, look, there's another cost to all of of this. our country's got profound problems, profound challenges, whether it's what to do about ukraine or it's how to take advantage and make it a success, the tremendous opportunity associated with artificial intelligence. but instead we have our policy makers all focused on just how a dance is going to play out the conclusion of which is that the united states is going to pay its debt sooner or later. so i just think this is a foolish exercise. i hope it ends as soon as it possibly can. >> i mean you look at the stock
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market where a lot of americans have their 401k retirement savings tied up, there already seems to be a skittishness about the default. >> yeah, i mean during the period when default was being debated in 2011, the stock market went down by a little more than 15%. today that would be in the range of $6 trillion. that's $20,000 for every american almost in wealth that at least for a time would be destroyed. not in part it's because of the details of what's happening with the debt but in part because it makes people doubt our society, makes people doubt our government. so the right thing to do is to move on with this. and, look, the people who say we've got real fiscal issues in our country, they're right.
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but just because you've got some issue with me and you're right about your issue, doesn't mean you get to hold me hostage or kidnap one of my children. and it's not really right to be kidnapping and hijacking the financial extent of the united states to make a point about the deficit and fiscal policies. >> you said at an investor conference i think at the end of april you thought the odds of default associated over the next three months were low and if it happens to be repaired fairly quickly. do you think it's low like that? >> i -- you know, because we haven't dealt with it since that time, i think the odds are probably a little higher than that, but i think the very high likelihood is that we will not have a default on government
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debt in the sense that the people who wrote interest will get it. people who wrote their principle back will get it and they'll get it on time. will there be other disruptions to the financial affairs probably not, but that's a little more likely. >> secretary summers, i appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you. >> coming up next some potential good news on alzheimer's, some startling new research into alzheimer's disease that could help scientists searching for ways to better prevent it and treat it. dr. sanjay gupta joins us next. ♪ ♪ ♪
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it's rare to get some good news related to alzheimer's but researchers now say they've uncovered what may be an important clue that could one day lead to better prevention and treatment. alzheimer's disease is a form of dementia that currently affects more than 6 million adults. the cdc projects it could affect as many as 14 million americans a decade from now. so, sanjay, researchers were tracking a man in columbia from what i've read who had a bad family history of early on set
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alzheimer's. did and they discovered something in his genes, is >> yeah, so this is a very well-known study in claum bu. been going on 40 years and there's an ex10ed family, some 6,000 people, and what they found was there's this one mutation. if you have this mutation you have almost 100% guarantee you're going to get alzheimer's disease, so that's made this particular family very important to study. what they have found is a couple times now, the second time it's happened is that despite having that mutation, which, again almost guarantees you're going to get alzheimer's there's been a couple of people who still haven't gotten it or they got it much later than otherwise expected, and that's made them interesting to study. they're trying to figure out what's protecting them, what's making them resilient to alzheimer's and is there something we can all learn from that. >> because many members of the family get it like in their 40s. this guy didn't get it i think
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until late 60s or something if i'm correct. what exactly have researchers learned about the gene change and how it helped this man live longer? >> first of all, you're absolutely right. most people not only got it, but they got it in their 40s or 50s so they developed really on set symptom. this guy we're talking about was officially diagnosed with mild dementia at 72 years old and then it progressed pretty rapidly, but it was a few decades after many people with this mutation had it. what they found and this is part of a large study. his brain was examined after he die, and they found evidence of another gene mutation which was producing a particular protein that was located right here i'm going to show you on this model here. right in this area of the brain, right in the area of the pran that is responsible for memory but also responsible for smell. it's called the entorhinal cortex. you don't need to remember that, but what is interesting here,
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anderson, his brain still had a lot of amyloid plaque and tangles in the brain. it was just this one area here that was protected with this additional protein. again, these are early studies. this is one case, but there could be something really important in there in terms of that protein and how it's protective of the brain. >> and the sister of the man in the study also shared that same protective protein, right, and it helped her but didn't help her as much. her family says she began experiencing cognitive declines in her late 50s. >> right. she, again, i think was a decade later than other people who had this particular gene. it's interesting, we're not sure why there's such a gender difference when it comes to alzheimer's. about two-thirds of people who have alzheimer's disease are women. one-third are men. is there a different biological process that's happening? are women diagnosed earlier than men for some reason? they don't know, but, again, the protein in this case was helpful, not as helpful, and that's going to be an important
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clue. >> is it likely new therapies will be developed from the study and how does this compare to other alzheimer's treatments which do -- can eliminate plaque? >> first of all, i've got to tell you this is pretty big deal and i got a lot of call from people today and excitement. i think it's very early, but i think as one researcher put it putting more of this protein in the brain in some way could be protective against the symptoms of alzheimer's disease. again, very, very early but there could be therapies. i think an interesting finding is a second point you're making. so many of the therapies over the last couple of decades have focused on eliminating or reducing the amount of amyloid plaque in the brain. it's part of the amyloid hypothesis. with this particular brain, this person's brain who was pretty protected against a guaranteed diagnosis of early alzheimer's, he still had a lot of amyloid
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plaque in his brain. he still had a lot of tangles in this brain. if anything maybe it sends a snl maybe we shouldn't focus on those treatments but instead focus on treatments like this one that could protect the brain. >> i want to go back to our lead story tonight. members of the north carolina house have just voted whether to override the veto of a bill to restrict the access of abortion in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy. cnn's diane gallagher, what's going on? >> reporter: you can see behind me people who oppose this veto override are chanting shame after the north carolina house just voted along party lines to override the veto as the governor signed on saturday of the 12-week abortion ban with exceptions and a lot more in this bill. and that's something that democrats continue to try to fish through over the past two weeks since it first was introduced. i want you to kind of see behind me all these different people
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who showed up here to watch this particular vote. if you remember, anderson -- i'm sorry if you can't hear me very well, but if you do remember, we talked about those four lawmakers, and then the governor talked about these members of the house. both of those house members we had been watching, representative ted davis, and representative trisha kaufman did vote tonight to override that veto. they needed all 72 of their gop members to override this veto. there were questions leading into the debate tonight, but in the end republicans in both the house and the senate in north carolina did vote to override the governor's veto. that means that many aspects of this bill will go into effect on july 1st here in north carolina. there's a lot of talk about bringing that deadline, that limit for abortion in north carolina from 20 weeks to 12 weeks with those exceptions for
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rape and incest and victims and also some fetal anomalies with time limits on that. but there were also multiple other parts of this bill, anderson, including parts that add new paperwork, new regulations, new stipulations, and reporting requirements that opponents, medical associations here in north carolina say will make it difficult for some people to obtain abortions even in that 12-week period. democrats have no recourse at this point. it will be now officially law. >> diane gallagher, appreciate the update. thank you. still ahead protests in san francisco after a security guard shot and killed a suspected shoplifter at a wallgreens. now the district attorney's office has released surveillance video showing the deadly incident. we'll have the latest on that next. with voya, considering all your finanancial choices together can help you make smarter decisions. voya. well planned. well invested. well protected.
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the san francisco district attorney's office has announced it will not press criminal charges against a security guard who shot and killed a suspected shoplifter at a walgreens. its report said the guard acted in self-defense. the d.a.'s office also released surveillance video in the moments leading up to the
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shooting. banko brown was accused of shoplifting from the store last month. according to the office brown tried to stab the guard before the shooting. the incident led to protests in san francisco. cnn's kyung lah has more. >> reporter: the surveillance video is silent, but this clash at a walgreens speak volumes about the struggles in san francisco. the person in white is homeless named >> banko was murdered because of his crime of being hungry. he was murdered for the crime of being homeless. >> reporter: the other person dressed in black is security guard michael anthony. brown is a transgender man but anthony describes him as a woman in a police interview. >> the whole time we were wrestling, she was saying that she was going to stab me. and that's what really put the fear in my heart. >> reporter: that stabbing threat was repeated multiple
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times, says anthony. and that's when he pulled out his gunpointing it downwards. >> so that reaction, her turning around and advancing towards me, that's when i lifted it and shot once. >> reporter: it was a fatal shot. police would find brown was unarmed. >> say his name! >> banko brown. >> reporter: while protesters see a crime and banko brown's family attorney pledges a civil lawsuit -- >> what you do see is this officer being the aggressive person throughout. so that's -- to me means there was no justification for the shooting. >> reporter: san francisco district attorney brook jenkins declined to file charges against the security guard, saying the security guard's fear of being hurt was reasonable. >> and in this case, we had to decide whether or not we had the sufficient evidence to prove this case to 12 jurors beyond a reasonable doubt. it was our conclusion that we did not have such evidence. that is why we have arrived at
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this decision at this time. >> basically a crucible of so many things at the same time, right? that store has seen so much theft. that store is the middle of downtown where so many retail places are leaving. >> reporter: lawrence lee is a lifelong san francisco resident and small business owner. he points out this is the same neighborhood where whole foods closed due to crime and the concentration of homelessness. while city wide data shows crime is lower now as compared to before the pandemic, lee says low-level crime remains persistent and unavoidable for city residents. >> i walked around the downtown and shopped and not felt safe and watched people do things that i would never do in terms of, you know, casually pulling stuff off the shelf. i can feel for so many different sides. and to have it happen -- then to have it happen to the extent of actually someone losing a life is -- man, it just breaks my
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heart. >> reporter: the district attorney's decision here to not charge may not be the final word on this, anderson. the president of the san francisco board of supervisors tonight introduced a resolution urging a vote next week to see if the california attorney general, as well as the department of justice, will step in this case. anderson? >> appreciate it. programming note, former google ceo eric schmidt, the new technology dangerous. that's at the top of the hour. stick around for that. next for us, it was one of the most daring robberies germany has ever seen, more than $100 million worth of jewels stolen from a museum. today a german court convicted some of those involved. where are the most valuable jewels. they haven't been found. detail next.
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in the robbery are going free until their sentences begin. fred pleitgen has more. >> reporter: one of the most brazen heists in modern history. robbers shattering glass cases with hammers and making off with tens of millions worth of museum artifacts in dresden, germany n 2019. i don't need to tell you how shocked we are also about the brutality of this break-in. the museum's director said at the time. this is of invaluable art, historic and culture historic value. the gangsters first started a fire causing a power outage in the green vault museum, then they broke in and stole 21 pieces of historic jewelry. some of the most valuable in the world studded with more than 4,300 diamonds. the total insurance value of the loot around $130 million. five of the six suspects all members of an infamous berlin
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mobster clan have now been convicted by a german court, one defendant was acquitted. the sentences range from four years and four months to a little over six years. however, some are walking free after a plea bargain with the prosecution causing angry reaction throughout the country. [speaking non-english] >> reporter: three of the men offenders among the adults have been released today, the presiding judge said. but where are the jewels? while the robbers did tell investigators where some of the stolen artifacts were located helping divers to retrieve them from a canal in berlin, the most valuable pieces are still missing without a trace. the now convicts claim not to know where they are. [speaking non-english] >> reporter: this means that the state of saxny can and must claim its damages within the framework of civil lawsuits, the presiding judge said. state authorities are offering a reward for up to half a million euros for clues helping to find
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the missing historic jewelry. but they acknowledge some of the pieces might never be found because they've been broken into pieces. all this as those now convicted of stealing the artifacts walked out of the courtroom and drove off, allowed to serve their sentences at a later time. anderson, one of the pieces that's still missing is a very rare diamond known as the white saxen, all this as the police in that area have now come out and said they're actually searching for another possible suspect whom they believe may have aided the group in the heist. anderson? >> fred pleitgen, appreciate it. the news continues, "cnn primetime" with sara sidner starts now. >> thank you. good evening to you. we begin tonight with another scare involving the safety of a united states government official and intruder said to be drunk somehow got into the home of president biden's national security adviser jake sullivan. we're told that no one was hurt and the suspect got away without secret service even
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