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having passed by the requisite three-fifths vote the house overrides the veto and the bill is law notwithstanding the governor's objections. so be notified. >> watching statehouses recently. >> yes, the power that they have, even in states like that, north carolina, everyone, with democratic governors, the power to override. they have a super majority. >> the super majority is the story. >> good morning. we are glad you are with us. what you were hearing, people were yelling "shame" as republicans in north carolina voted it to override the governor's veto and approve an abortion ban. democrats are fighting a bill in south carolina. >> president biden cutting a major foreign trip short, set to depart today, but time is running out to reach a deal on the debt limit and prevent the economy from economic
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catastrophe. the dangers of artificial intelligence. one another using a.i. to clone his voice and speak words he did not write. this hour of "cnn this morning" starts now. >> developing overnight as we were talking about, this battle over abortion rights in states across america, the focus today is the carolinas. republicans in north carolina overriding the governor's veto and forcing through an abortion ban. >> shame, shame, shame, shame! >> those who can't follow the rules -- >> shame, shame, shame! >> protesters smouting shouting at lawmakers, some had to be reviewed, now law in north carolina, most abortions be illegal after 12 weeks of pittsburgh penguin. the state has been a refuge. >> next door in south carolina
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democrats are trying to stop a bill that would ban most abortions around six weeks whenered cardiac activity is detected before most women even know they are pregnant. democrats proposed a thousand amendments to drag out the process going late into the night. >> to me every minute we are in here fighting this is a minute women can get health care across the state. >> this is an issue, while it may be futile, is worth fighting for. we know and that's why we are not letting it go to a ballot, that most people in this state and in the united states want abortion access. >> lawmakers were forced to debate to almost 2:00 a.m. this morning. they are set to return in just a few hours from now. big question on how long this will drag on. dianne gallagher is live outside the state capitol in raleigh, north carolina. dianne, obviously, we are still
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ho monitoring what's happening in south carolina. it is so important to remind viewers this was because a democrat who voted for abortion access previously then switched and gave republicans that super majority that allowed them to override that veto. >> that's right, kaitlan. and that democrat, that former democrat now republican, did vote for that veto override last night. she also voted for the bill just about two weeks ago. democrats have talked about just how quickly this unfolded in north carolina. 15 days ago is when bill dropped in the middle of the night. it's now vetoed and overridden and there is not much they can do, democrats, in terms of this. after that veto override vote happened it is law in nrk. democrats say they are going to thak this on the campaign trail that they feel there is enough in that law that perhaps tpeopl don't know about, they can make
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sure north carolinians know about the extra regulations, reporting requirements, licensing requirements that may put some of the clinics in jeopardy in the state as well as several in-person appointments that somebody tried to obtain a medication abortion will have to go through because of this law. it goes into effect july 1. again democrats say that they feel this is going to be a 2024 energizing message for them. republicans call this a compromise within their own caucus, of course. daums were not involved in this. but democrats told me last night they said, look, when democrats are talking about abortion, it is a winning subject. when republicans are talking about it, it is a losing one. >> every vote counts, clearly. thank you very much. also president biden is heading to japan to meet with g7 leaders but the trip won't be as long as initially planned. he had plans to become the first sitting u.s. president to actually go to papa new guinea
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as well. he is now canceling those stops because time is running short in washington to address the debt ceiling or risk a catastrophic default. meeting with house speaker kevin mccarthy and top lawmakers yesterday, president biden started off the tense negotiations with a joke. >> goet a good picture of all o us. we are having a wonderful time. everything is going well. >> we spoke with the white house press secretary last hour. she said an agreement can and must be reached in time. >> we said this over and over b again. the president said this. we are not a deadbeat nation. we pay our debts. this is something that congress should do, they have done this 78 times since 19 6z 0. as it relates to the debt limit, that is something we can do. this is something that needs to get done as it relates to the debt limit as soon as possible. we have to get this done.
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as you know, kaitlan, as well, if we do not deal with debt limit in the way that congress has dealt with it 78 times since 1960, it could trigger a recession, we could lose millions of jobs. >> here is what is important to remember. while they are sounding head coachful they are very far apart when it comes to the policy aspect of this. she said that the president will continue talks while he is in japan. he is going to be meeting with the same congressional leaders once he returns from his trip. ken buck was asked yesterday about a possible u.s. default if congress fails to reach a debt ceiling agreement. listen to his answer. >> i don't know what a default looks like because we have never been there before. does it happen slowly over time and within day two or three america we pass a debt ceiling? i don't think that it is the end of the world to default. that doesn't mean i am encouraging a default in any way, shape or form. >> here with us chief business
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correspondent christine romans. maybe not the end of the world, but the end of our, you know, position in the world at least for a while. >> that is a contrarian position that terrifies people on wall street and business leaders and small business people and the fed chief and the treasury secretary and anybody who is really concerned about how the global economy works and how the u.s. economy works. would it be the end of the world for constituents if senior citizens had to wait three weeks to get their check because we went two or three days over the line? a quarter of senior citizens on social security is all their income. they can't give an iou to the grocery store or rent. just that one which, it would be very, very difficult. also we did get right up to the line, the situation he described in 2011 and the stock market tanked 17% and added $1 billion on the cost of financing our debt because interest rate spikes. we have seen real world impacts and it is dangerous. this also is a situation where we have so many banks that have
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been a little bit nervous lately. this is not the time to be putting more nervousness in the banking system. goldman sachs estimates a tenth of the american economy simply stops, stops the moment you go over that line. there aren't enough dollars to pay the bills and that is something that is incredibly dangerous. so for a few congressmen who say let's toy with this, that could be, you know, more important for spending in the future, everybody who actually makes money and hires people does not think that's a good idea, guys. >> yeah, because it's not a good idea. thanks very much. >> would be the end of the world for some people. >> for like everyone who relies on all that aid. special counsel jack smith's investigation in classified documents at former president donald trump's mar-a-lago resort cnn learned a key attorney is leaving trump's legal team. first on cnn, what can you tell us? >> we are told parliamentarian who has been an attorney at the
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center of the mar-a-lago documents investigation.tim paro has been an attorney at the center of the mar-a-lago documents investigation. we are told he gave us a statement saying it wasn't -- it was a personal decision, it wasn't an indication where he thinks this investigation is going. of course, we don't know jack smith, the special counsel investigating this, is going to decide. i think it's easy for people to say there are a lot of trump attorneys. this is parlatore. he helped organization the additional searches for more documents at other trump properties. he testified before the grand jury that's investigating the documents back in december. he was there for several hours. one key thing he said in march when it was reported he had gone -- they kept trying to ask about conversations he had with trump. he is an attorney. i think he said at the time he did not speak to them about that. i will note this comes as he defended the way that trump had
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handled the documents, made this comment. >> in a case where they have to prove willful retention of documents, what the facts actually show is a persistent pattern of willful return of marked documents whenever they were found. and so i went through all that with the jury. >> so that's -- that was his grand jury testify. the other thing that i think is important here, there is always in fighting in "everywhere" team trump had dating back to when he entered the white house as long as we have been covering his legal teams there has been that in this legal team not just on documents. joe tacopina has been representing trump in the e. jean carroll case where he was found civilly liable for sexual abuse. i had tim parlatore on a few weeks ago, maybe two months ago, and we asked whether or not he thought tacopina was the right person to take that e. jean carroll case to trial. he had a really telling answer.
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this is what he said. >> as to who is gonna try the case, i know that joe has certain potential conflict issues given his prior contacts with stormy daniels. so who is the right attorney to take it to trial is something that the client will have to decide. >> yeah. that didn't go over well. i think the other thing to consider is that trump has been very unhappy with all the investigations into him privately, especially the documents investigation because he has paid a lot of attorneys a lot of money and been asking people privately why is this still going on. obviously, it's complicated. but it is notable that tim parlatore is leaving his legal team. >> he was on that case and testified before the grand jury. let's talk about this news that kaitlan brouge be with our political director and also the host of the cnn political briefing podcast. what's your take, david? >> first of all, it's an awkward thing when you are the legal representation and also a witness in the case that has to
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testify. that creates problems from the get go there. as kaitlan noted, in fighting in trump's legal circles is nothing new. when we see a trump legal team formed assume that's not gonna be the team in place when the case comes to resolution here. you know, this classified documents case special the potential for an obstruction of justice charge here, is one of the most serious investigations that the former president is facing. so it's not a great day when you have to shake up your legal team for the client if indeed it is as serious a case as we believe this could be. >> yeah, we will see what happens there. also, david, i know you were watching the races that were happening last night. we saw daniel cameron the attorney general in kentucky win the republican nomination up against the democratic governor andy beshear. this will be one of the most closely watched gubernatorial races this year. what did you make of that?
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>> yeah, i mean, first, the first takeaway is the resounding r victory that attorney general daniel cameron had. he is a rising star in the republican party. donald trump featured him prominently at his 2020 republican national convention that year. what i think is interesting is he bridges a divide that we talk about inside inside the republican party, the mcconnell world and trump world. they don't get along. they don't speak. yet cameron is a former mcconnell aide, that mcconnell kentucky establishment but had donald trump's endorsement and made sure to do some business for donald trump yesterday when he accepted his victory. he also needled ron desantis by saying that donald trump's culture of winning is alive and well in kentucky. >> what else stood out about the races in florida, philadelphia? >> well, in the philadelphia mayoral race it was interesting to see that progressives went so hard for their candidate and
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came up short. alexandria ocasio-cortez, bernie sanders, cherelle parker got the democratic nomination all but assured to become the mayor of philadelphia when the general election takes place in november and she was running as a moderate candidate, not terribly unlike with eric adams in new york in terms of when it comes to policing and crime issue. >> thank you, friend. see ya, hear ya on the podcast. to a.i. now and the man behind the groundbreaking controversial chat kbot known a chatgpt is urging regulatoation. >> i think if this technology goes wrong, it can go quite wrong and he want to be vocal about, work with the government to prevent that from happening.
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and experience deep, undisturbed rest. learn more at tempurpedic.com too often we have seen what happens when technology outpaces regulation. the unbridled exploitation of personal data, the proliferation of disinformation, and the deepening of societal inequalities. we have seen how algorithmic biases can perpetuate discrimination and prejudice and how the lack of transparency can undermine public trust. this is not the future we want. >> notice he wasn't actually talking there. that's senator richard blumenthal. he kicked off a hearing on the oversight of artificial intelligence but clearly not actually the senator speaking.
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>> that voice was not mine. the words were not mine. and the audio was an a.i. voice cloning software trained on my floor speeches. the remarks were written by chatgpt. when it was asked how i would open this hearing. >> the democratic senators opening remarks delivered by an artificial intelligence generated recording of his voice in an attempt to illustrate the potential risks of that technology. 30 experts testified, including sam altman, the ceo of openai. that's the company that is behind the artificial intelligence powered chatbot chatgpt. altman told lawmakers that it is time, he believes, to regulate artificial intelligence. >> we're here because people love this technology.
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we think it can be a printing press moment. we think that regulatory intervention by governments will be critical to mitigate the risks of increasingly powerful models. i think if this technology goes wrong it can go quite wrong, and we want to be vocal about that. we want to work with the government to prevent that from happening. >> joining us now cnn correspondent donie o'sullivan and axio media reporter sara fisher. obviously, it was clear why he was testifying. interesting to hear him say i am here because if this goes wrong, it could go really wrong. >> a bit of an understatement there. yeah. look, i think he knows this technology almost better than anyone, openai is pioneering in this space, but even they, even sam altman, the ceo of google recently said the systems they are bidding, these a.i. systems, sometimes behave in such ways, sometimes behave so accurately that they can figure stuff out,
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that the guys themselves who are making this don't necessarily know all the time how it works or how a.i. is figuring out certain things. so even he himself would say we don't necessarily have a total handle on this. >> you said that's why you didn't test it in the lab. that's why you have to get -- elon musk calling it last night a double-edged sword. i thought -- this exchange, obviously, i have a vested interest for my children's future. i thought this exchange was telling when ossoff said, you know, or asked this would harm children? like social media has? listen to this. >> try to design systems that don't maximize for engagement. the less people use our products, the better. we are not an advertising-based model. we are not trying to get people to use it more and more. and i think that's a different shape than ad-supported social media. >> you are nodding. he makes a good point, no. >> a very good point. one thing to note is it took us
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ten years to start thinking about regulating social media in a thoughtful way. lawmakers were slow to it in part because they had so much to benefit from social media, running ad campaigns, et cetera. when it comes to a.i. we are jumping on this quickly. we introduced this publicly months ago and already we have the ceo of one of the biggest firms testifying before congress. think about that. jeff bezos didn't testify before congress until decades into his career. we are taking this more seriously. but to the point about kids, what's interesting here is that this has mass adoption. this isn't something where the tech companies like the metaverse are pushing this on us. kids are using it in school, to write essays. it's easy to figure out. of course they will be early adopters. >> the question i think, and it's easy to be in washington and be cynical about whether or not lawmakers know how to deal with this, the fact that they are taking it more seriously -- and we keep hearing from sam altman. what does it say to you about how the lawmakers are treating
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this? >> to sara's point, i realized yesterday i was looking -- mark zuckerberg didn't show up at congress until 2018 after it became a scandal. >> he had never been to congress before. >> yeah. so at that point facebook was 14 years old, which remarkable when you think how much facebook changed the world in "the 2010s," right? but i think the hearing yesterday was important. but it barely scratched the surface. it was introductory. this is going to touch our lives in so many ways whether from jobs and industry to the recording industry, to education, to everything else. so they are going to have to start having hearings on individual aspects of this. >> my question is like they have the power. ceos have the power. we talked about my interview with the google ceo in 2019 when he said if a.i., i'm paraphrasing, gets too far ahead of us, we will have to pause it, stop it. i said, really? even though it would be profitable? he said we have a moral
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responsibility to do so. isn't this actually testing that for all these companies? what will they do? >> sure. look, i mean, back to your point about being cynical, congress has had many hearings on social media the past six years and not done anything about it. not that they are going to be able to get their hands around this issue, remains to be seen. >> the tone of this hearing yesterday was actually professional. typically they are leveraging this for sound bites to be able to go after china or crack down hard on big tech. that's not what you saw yesterday. there seepmed to be bipartisan agreement we have to take this seriously. while i am skeptical, i am hopeful they take it more seriously than they did social media. >> such a good point. good for sam to go and civil exchanges between lawmakers. >> civil exchanges is progress now. >> chatgpt, she meant c.t.hatgp wrote that point. >> yeah.
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we'll see. thank you, sara. we have new audio into cnn from "the l.a. times." it's an exchange between a few reporters and senator dianne feinstein, the democratic senator recently returned to capitol hill after an extended absence that drew a lot of scrutiny and criticism even from some of they are col as she was recovering from shingles. given the role she plays on the senate judiciary committee, a reporter asked how she is received by her colleagues since she got back to washington. this is what she said. >> what have you heard? >> what have i heard about what? >> about your return. how have they felt about your return? >> i haven't been gone. >> okay. you should follow -- i haven't been gone. i have been working. >> you have been working from home? >> no. i have been here. >> um -- >> i have been voting. please. either know or don't know.
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>> we spoke with "the l.a. times" reporter that senator feinstein was speaking with there. he said she was back for a week at that point. so that may have been what she was referring to. of course, it raises questions given me was gone for two and a half months. cnn reached out to feinstein's office for a comment on their version of what happened in this exchange. no word back yet. the san antonio purse winning the nba's draft lottery and rights to draft 7'4" victor who belief may be the best prospect since lebron james. a growing number of americans say they changed their religious beliefs or traditions a big shift from last year. harry enten, our in house religious expert, here with this morning's number. >> name that song, hairy. ♪ just like a prayer you know ♪ ♪ ng milillions of germs in seconds. for that one-of-a-kind whoa... ...w.which leaves you feeling... ahhhhhhh listerine. feel the whoa!
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and that means that the number one pick in the 2023 draft goes to the san antonio spurs. >> the san antonio spurs walk away with the first -- >> walking away and striking gold, basically, they won the 2023 nba draft lottery. it means they will have the right to make the first pick at next month's draft and all eyes are going to be on victor wembanyama. he was expected to be the first name called eagerly on june 22. the 19-year-old french phenom is not even in the league yet. he is already one of the top ten most viewed players on social media this season. when wembanyama watched the lottery from paris and described
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his excitement with a healthy dose of confidence. >> can't really describe it. my heart is beating. i got everyone i love around me, really special moment i will remember the rest of my life. i am trying to win a ring asap, so be ready. >> you can't tell, but he is 7'4". he is a superstar. he is set to join the legendary spurs who also drafted number one in 1997th spurs picked tim duncan, went on to help them win five championships. they used their top pick on hall of fame center david robson ten years before that. joining us is cari champion. so happy to have you here in person. i mean, i loved him saying, just be ready. >> be ready. i will say this. i am having a sober moment here. i know there is a lot of hype around victor but there has only been one person i believe who lived up to this type of hype
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and that was lebron james. it's very hard to have so many people say you're going to be the next big thing. while saying he is 7'4", i hear he is 7'5". >> i'm excited. this a wonderful opportunity. 19, coming to a new country, playing with a great organization and coach popovich with the spurs. it's the best. he is going to teach him everything he needs to know. so i feel like he is in good hands. >> great point about having pop as your coach. he is going to teach him so much about his life and how he is going to lead at 19. >> yes. >> that's critical to his success, isn't it? >> if i had to say even though they say ping pongs did it, i say it was very intentional from the universe because imagine coming over here not knowing how to move through the chaos and basketball, sports is so political. you need someone to measure you. pop will be a good father. have tim duncan as a coach, it will be good.
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>> he is so young. and that is something we have been talking about not just how you conduct yourself on the court, on the field, it's also off it. ja morant. i mean, i remember when this happened in march, the flashed a video inside of a club at night. >> a gun, right. >> flashed a gun. sorry. he was suspended. it was a big point of controversy. now he was seen flashing a gun on instagram again, he has been suspended, there is an investigation. what are you hearing? >> this is one of these instances where a lot of people have absolutely zero sympathy for ja at this point. it's almost as if you're thinking you can't be a serious person. you give this entire sit-down interview where you say you are in therapy and changing your ways. and quite frankly, he can't be a serious person because why in the world would you surround yourself with people who will put you on instagram on social media live in the moment and you know there is a gun in the car? what is the point of that?
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>> let's listen to adam silver, the commissioner, talking about this. >> i at least was left with the sense that he was taking this incredibly seriously. so honestly i was shocked when i saw this weekend that video. now, we are in the process of investigating it. we will figure out exactly what happened to the best we can. again, it's the -- the video is grainy and all that. assuming the worst. >> the commissioner saying i am assuming the worst means what for ja? >> they will give him more of a suspension, a significant suspension. last time it was eight games. that was less than two months ago. ja is a superstar of the nba. and i think he thought his talent would trump all. >> it never does. >> it never does. >> why do people think this? >> they are going to really make him pay this time. and he is going to have to learn, sit down for some time and learn. >> yeah. it does.
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that's totally right. you're just the way you play is not an excuse for that. >> yeah. >> it was great to have you on set this morning. >> i love you guys. you look amazing. >> come on! >> can i just say -- >> these leather pants! >> the ladies in the sports and news, we do all year. >> amen, sister. thank you. >> you're welcome. >> we will take that walk soon. a growing number of americans say they used to follow a different religious tradition or denomination. this is according to a new survey. that percentage is going up. cnn data reporter harry enten is there. >> that is ariana. >> i love every songs-song that mentions relittle jun. >> were you even born when this song came out, harry? >> i have no idea. it's not a song i have ever heard before. let's get to the numbers. this morning's number is 24%. have you ever changed religions? 24% of americans said yes in
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2022. it was 15% who said so in 2021. reasons people change from their prior religion. not surprisingly 57% said they stopped believing in it. 30% said it was because their prior religion was anti-lbgtq. 29% said the family was never religious. what were the faiths that people left? 37% top catholic. 24% non-evangelical, 17% other christian, 13% evangelical christian. >> not just people changing religions. overall, relying on their faith less than -- this as i force my children to if to church on sundays, relying on it less and less. >> correct. religion is the most important thing in my life. just 15% say that now. a decade ago, it was 25%. and rising identities, look at this, nothing in particular. nine points to 23%.
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agnostic and atheist up to 6% each. people are relying on religion less than ever before in the country, guys. >> fascinating, thank you, harry. there is an uproar in new york city over the mayor's plan to house migrants who have been bussed to the city from border city and school gyms here. we will talk to the former speak of the new york city council who is defending the decision by mayor adams. rude. who are you? i'm an investor in a fund that helps advancece innovative sports tech like this smsmart fitness mirror. i'm also mr. leg day...1989! anyone can become an agent of innovation with invesco qqq, a fund that gives you access to nasdaq-100 innovations. i go through a lot of pants. before investing carefully read and consider fund investment objectives, risks, charges, expenses and more in prospectus at invesco.com. ♪ ♪ ♪
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us. you picked the wrong neighborhood and the wrong school. >> those are parents protesting in new york city against the
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mayor, eric adams', plan to house migrants in school gyms as the city is trying to reckon with a surge of asylum seekers sent here. >> i think they tried to sort of slip this through without giving people a chance to really respond. >> i would like other places to be considered. >> our school is tiny. we can barely fit in as it is. >> adams says a lack of support from the federal government has forced his hand with this. it's harsh criticism of president biden's handling of the crisis that is driving a wedge between the mayor of the nation's largest city and a president who is trying to combat the crisis at the border. joining us democrat and former new york city counsel speaker corey johnson. you have a perspective which is that the mayor doesn't have a ton of good options here and you are onboard with the plan to do this? >> clearly, the situation has shown that we are in an
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emergency and new york city is sort of out of space. 62,000 migrants in the last year. over 120 hotels opened up. 4,200 migrants in the last week. and the clip you just showed of parents being upset, it never sure reached this point. the mayor called for a decompression strategy, trying to figure out ways to spread migrants out, sending people to the suburbs, you have seen county executives and people outside of new york city fighting against that. what all of this shows is really a failure of the federal level, a lack of coordination, not enough support for localities and cities that are dealing with this surge. so understandably, the mayor is saying, i need some help here. there was a $350 million pot of fema money that cities could apply for. new york city has incurred well over $1 billion in costs to house 62,000 migrants and has been awarded $30 million from fema.
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the costsing associated with this is going to bloom out to $4.2 billion over the next year. it is an untenable situation. we are a city of immigrants. we welcome all people, but clearly this has become a toxic situation without much help from the federal government. >> the other side of that argument, republicans who point out, look, you made, mr. mayor, and voters in new york, new york a sanctuary city. and so this was gonna happen and you said you're welcoming and here you go. this is what representative mike waller, who is a republican, who flipped one of those districts in new york, said about orange county, for example, which has now blocked mayor adams from moving migrants there. here is what he told us. >> new york city chose to be a sanctuary city back in 2016. when southern state governors who were overwhelmed then inundated over the last two years chose to sent migrants up
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to new york city, eric adams called it morally bankrupt that they were doing that without coordination and cooperation with city officials. he is now doing the very thing he decried. >> by trying to send them outside of the city. do you think new york -- >> no, that is not a fair comparison. when we say we are a sanctuary city, we welcome immigrants, we do not go after undocumented people, we are city that does not do things that we have seen in other cities across the country in having i.c.e. agents outside where people are trying to get help. that's what we mean. this is an unprecedented crisis that is driven by violence in central america and mexico and is now overwhelming cities, los angeles, chicago and new york has been the epicenter of it. so we are a city that is welcoming but we need help from the federal government. we need coordination. and we are not getting that right now. one other crazy fact is that
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some of these cities in texas where governor abbott is busing people here, flying people there, they are taking fema money that they are receiving from fema to help migrants and using that money to pay for bus tickets and plane tickets to send people there. that's not the intention of that fema money. and again it shows a lack of coordination, a lack of help from the federal government. so mayor adams, i think, is right in saying give us some help here. we can't do this alone. >> you have not always agreed with everything mayor adams has done. >> no. he is a friend, but we don't agree on every issue. clearly, what you saw in those clips at the beginning of this block with those parents, it never should have reached this point. >> corey johnson, thank you. >> thanks for having me. so now ahead, a 13-year-old boy used a slingshot to chase off a kidnapper trying to abduct the boy's sister. his name is owen burns. he is a hero. there he is with his parents. he joins us next.
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how about this for a morning moment for you, a slingshot is all it took for one 13-year-old to save his sister's life. police report an 8-year-old was mushroom hunting in her backyard in rural michigan when a man came out of the woods behind their house, put his hand over her mouth and attempted to pull her back into the woods. her brother was watching from inside, he grabbed his slingshot and hit the attempted kidnapper twice before scaring him off. police were able to track down the suspect whose injuries were consistent with a slingshot strike and arrested him on attempted kidnapping and assault charges. so let's bring in 13-year-old owen burns and his slingshot. you can show it to everyone, owen. he saved his sister's life, also his parents margaret and andrew. good morning, guys. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> owen, good job.
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>> good morning. >> good, good, good job. what was it like when you saw this happen? you just had that instinct to go? >> it just felt like i was scared, i had like something to do because if i didn't grab it she would have been taken away or worse, so i grabbed it, grabbed anything i could get. >> how -- >> i hit him in the head. >> it's really scary for you, for her. can you just tell us how she's doing this morning? >> fine, it's just she's a little startled a little bit still. >> yeah, of course. mom and dad, margaret, what did you think when you heard all about this? did they come inside and owen told you what happened? >> they actually called me, i just got out of work. >> what did you say? what did you think? >> all i heard was kidnapper and i was on my way.
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>> what do you think about your son jumping into action like that? >> very brave. >> what about you, andrew? >> well, he is a good shot, he always has been. >> did he learn from dad? >> no. >> he shot his nerf gun when he was a kid and bb gun. >> then i broke another one and another one and another one because i used it too much. >> what did you say, because you used it too much? >> yeah, it breaks sometimes. >> yeah. >> how old were you when you got that first slingshot? >> i had another one, i was like probably 7 or 8. it was an old one that the rubber was breaking off so i grabbed it and used it. >> what did you put in it? you run outside, you got your
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slingshot. show us what did you? did you pick up a rock? >> i had a rock in there and a marble right next to it, so i grabbed it, put it in here and just shot it. >> margaret, one thing that i had read about where you guys live in alpena, michigan, that i thought was so touching that people say you don't move there, you grow up there and you grow old there. that's how tight this community it, right? >> yes. >> so what has the community been saying about owen and what happened and coming together around you guys? >> a bunch of stuff. like people want to say i'm a hero, a bunch of stuff they want to give me stuff. i get a bunch of money for no reason. i'm grateful for all of that, but you don't have to give me all that stuff for no reason. i know i did something right, but it's just impressed by other people giving me stuff for free.
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it's weird. >> college is expensive, so don't buy nor sling shots, put it in the bank account and save it and you deserve t owen. thank you for being a hero for saving your sister. mom and dad, thanks for raising such a great little boy. >> we try our best. >> yeah. you did a good job. thank you, guys, very much. >> love them. >> such an awesome story. i'd like to think one of my little brothers would do that for me. >> they would. >> slingshot pros. thank you so much for joining us this morning. congrats to owen and his family. so exciting. cnn "news central" starts right after this break. (vo) if you've had thyroid eye disease e for years and you go through artificial tears in the b blink of an eye,
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