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this hour, president biden is live on the ground in japan headed to the g7 summit. he is abroad but can't escape the troubles of washington and the pressure mounting to reach a deal on the debt ceiling back home. coming up, we are going to take to congressman katie porter about that deadline. and guy frieri giving us a look at his 20-year career with the food network. he tells us how he picks the restaurants he features on triple d. this hour of "cnn this morning" starts now. we do begin with news on ukraine. explosions heard in kyiv and other ukrainian regions as authorities reported a countrywide air attack. this as fierce fighting continues around the embattled eastern city of bakhmut with ukraine gaining ground in recent
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days. we have new video to show you, bakhmut getting absolutely pummeled in shelling. this shows the devastating toll the war has taken on this city in particular the past year. this as ukraine prepares for the counteroffensive to try to reclaim occupied land. sam kiley joins us from eastern ukraine. sam, good morning. >> reporter: hey, poppy. >> what can you tell us? >> reporter: oh, sorry. there is a rather heavy wind condition here, so difficult to pick you up. but i think the main thaing to take away from this latest wave of attack by cruise missiles, surface-to-surface missiles, the full pan alpy of missile technology fired by the russians is once again they are trying to soak up the air defenses of the ukrainians and expose vulner blts such as they could find in
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ke kyiv. 30 miles an hour filed, 29 the ukrainians claim to have shot down 29 out of 30. either a missile or debris of a missile hit the southern port city of odessa killing one person. three people were killed the previous day in missile strikes and artillery attacks in kherson around the country. so this is a sort of situation, normal in the sense that the russians are doing this to possibly absorb or get the ukrainians to spend as much of the air offenses they can ahead of the planned offensive when russians want to get their aircraft in the air more freely to use against the ground forces that the ukrainians no doubt will have. a peculiar situation in which the caravans saying they are advancing on the southern and northern flanks around the city,
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but the wagner group claims to have concentrated the ukrainians to a small area where they say they are fighting bitter battles against die hard ukrainian fighters holding out to the bitter end it would seem. >> these images of bakhmut are just striking. sam kiley, we really appreciate your reporting from southeastern ukraine. we are learning this morning that the airman accused of leaking top-secret documents was reported multiple times to his commanders and he was warned to stop mishandling classified intelligence. federal prosecutors made that revelation yesterday. memos date back to september of last year, 2022, members of jack teixeira's unit and air national guard base alerted commanders after they saw him writing notes about classified intelligence, stuffing the notes into his pocket. he was also reported for doing,
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quote, deep dives and searching the base's computer system for intelligence not related to his job and this came months before he was arrested for allegedly leaking a trove of embarrassing and damaging and revealing documents from the pentagon to video gamer friends online. here with more is cnn's chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller. learning this from federal prosecutors as they are saying there are three incidents where he was writing notes on classified intelligence, putting it in his pocket. then looking at a trove of information, deep diving, they said, and then he was looking at intelligence that was not related to his primary duty. why were those incidents not enough to remove him from his role? >> they were enough. what didn't happen? so what we're seeing now is that base, this is extraordinarily unusual. that base has been suspended from its intelligence mission totally. the commanding officer has been
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suspended from command as well as the executive officer. so in the pentagon's review, clearly they have recognized problems there and basically shut that operation down in terms of the classified intelligence side. but the question is he is making notes of classified documents. we know from earlier court filings that he was nervous about this because he had been caught, so he just started taking the documents wholesale. the real answer is, had these three things been treated seriously at the time, this would have been a referral to the base's security officer, and then logically should have gone to an organization like osi, office of special investigations, which is the air force's criminal investigation bureau, to see, you know, one thing is one thing. two things, three things. he went to a classified briefing and sat in taudience and asked extraordinarily detailed questions about things that didn't have to do with husband
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realm. he was the i.t. guy. his job was to make sure the systems were working. he wasn't an analyst. he wasn't a targeter. he wasn't a drone pilot. all off this should have been setting off alarm bells sooner. >> should it also change at large how the pentagon allows people in what positions to have access to classified documents? >> so that's something that the pentagon is looking at now, which is the person in that job who is basically the i.t. person that makes the systems run actually needs to have that, needs to have that clearance because you can't access the mechanics of the system where all that information is contained and not have been through that background investigation. that also doesn't mean, as you point out, you need to be looking at it and reading it because it has nothing to do with yu job to make sure the system functions. this is a holistic review about where to you put up these fences. but to get back to katlyn's question, the real thing is we
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don't need to change all the rules. we need to go by the rules that were already in place. when alarm bells go off, that has to go up the chain further. >> and it did and yet he stayed in his job. john miller, keep us updated. remarkable developments. >> yeah. thanks. so this morning three fbi whistleblowers will testify for the first time in a public hearings on alleged abuses of power by fbi lineup. it is the latest he is sclangs of the high-profile investigation into allegations that the fbi is weaponized against conservatives. two of individuals have already sat for closed door interviews with the subcommittee and democrats raising questions about the credibility of their testimony. sara has more. >> good morning. we learned in a letter from the fbi last night they ruolled out examples of three employees of the fbi whose security clearances had been revoked because they attended the
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capitol riot on january 6th or espoused alternate theories about it. two of those employees are going to be witnesses in this hearing today. so that i think gives you an idea of where the folks are coming from that jim jordan is putting forward. one of these men is someone who emailed his col likes at the fbi telling them to exercise extreme caution and discretion in pursuit of any investigative inquiries or leads pertaining to the events of january 6th. he had also been asked to investigate a possible subject who had been there on january 6th. he said he found nothing. another employee looked into it and found evidence of this person's participation in the capitol attacks. one of the witnesses has hindered investigations into january 6th. another one declined to participate in a s.w.a.t. attempt to arrest someone there on january 6th. and went to the fbi, tried to download fbi files on an
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unauthorized flash drive. these are the men jim jordan is putting forward to make the case that the fbi is weapon-sized against conservatives. democrats had a lot of issues with the legitimacy of these whistleblowers. he says this is the fbi's desperate attempt to salvage their reputation. >> keep us posted. this morning south carolina is now one step closer to banning most abortions after six weeks. the republican-controlled house passed that abortion bill last night after nearly 24 hours of an intense debate. state lawmakers have attempted to pass a ban three times already there in south carolina. if it's passed this time, south carolina would join almost every other state in the south, besides virginia, with strict abortion bans. it would boon most abortions after early cardiac activity is detected. the exceptions include, quote,
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fatal fetal anomalies, heart or nerve detects and health or life of the mother. there are exceptions for cases of rape, incest, or underage pregnancy. it's heading back to the state senate for another vote. three republican lawmakers, a democrat and independent, have so far banded together to block a near total ban on abortion. they call themselves the sister senators. they are the only women in the south carolina senate fill bust ring for hours each time a ban has come up. they say it's about having control over women. >> abortion laws have always been each and every one of them about control. it's always about control. plain and simple. and in the senate, the males all have control. we, the women, have not asked for as the senator from orangeburg pointed out yesterday, nor do we want your protection. we don't need it. we don't need it.
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>> that was republican south carolina state senator sandy sen. she joins us now. thank you for being here. as i said this bill is headed to the senate in south carolina. are you going to oppose this bill? >> well, of course. i am going to oppose it. this will be the fourth time our body has taken up an abortion bill since september and we are supposed to be part-time legislators. we have failed to pass any laws to help us combat sentinel. there are many things we need to do in our state. inst instead, the overwhelmingly white male republican majority is going to focus again and again on abortion. so we will, all of the five women will be fighting against this bill. the big nail-biter is whether the three men who stood with us last time, whether they will stick with us. and they are going to be studying today the bill that the house passed back to us. i heard you mention a minute ago
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that there was longer time for minors. that's not correct. we passed a bill that would give minors up to -- without our vote, of course, up to six weeks -- i mean an additional six weeks, up to 12 weeks. but, no. the bill takes it back to six and they have to go to a doctor twice. in order to get an abortion in south carolina the female is going to have to go to the doctor two times, have to get an ultra sound, verify there is no heartbeat and weight an hour while she is given literature and things of that nature and asked if she wants to see the ultrasound and things of that nature. >> thank you for clearing that up. that a very important distinction of what the bill looks like and what they are going to be voting on and you mentioned the three men that sore far stood with y'all when it comes to the votes. what is your sense? have you had conversations about which direction they are leaning on this? >> well, i had a lot of conversations with them. of course, their response was
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understandably that they have to see the final product. now they are going to get the final product. but the house added 14 payments to our bill and the side by side is difficult to read. but we have now given them some bullet points and they are going to be making their decisions. one of our concerns is we think one of our colleagues who was called up to active duty. >> that would be stephen gold french out of georgetown county, he apparently might be getting permission from commander snow to allow him to come back and vote on this issue. so i guess, i mean, maybe abortion is a national emergency at this point. i don't know. if he comes back and votes and he will vote -- he will vote with the bill, that means that they will only need to flip one male. so it's going to be a nail-biter. >> you are one of just five women in the south carolina senate. your state ranks 47th when it comes to the proportion of women who make up the state legislature. what are your conversations like with the other men, the ones who
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have voted each time for these near total abortion bans? >> you know, we are or july people. i was listening early in the hour hearing some congress people screaming and shouting on the streets. that's not going to happen in our chamber like that. we are definitely more gentile. we are forceful and direct, but don't have bad behavior. so even when we are face to face, we are not going to be ugly. we just disagree on this topic and really we disagree severely. we have about 14% of females, even though we have 51% females in the state and in the senate it's even worse with there being only five of us and three republicans and, by the way, we received yet another high-level threat to take us out in 2024 yesterday. the bill's main sponsor in the house said that he really wants to go back, he doesn't like the six-week ban, he wants a zero
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ban and the only way to do that would be to eliminate those who voted against this in 2024 and we were called out specifically, i was called out by my party leader, senator massie out of edgefield, saying that he would have an answer for me in 2024. and a guy running for chair in south carolina, he said that basically he singled out the three women, said we need to start by taking out three women. you know, didn't mention the men. . i don't want my men, counterparts who helped us to get targeted just because we have been. it's sad when you think about women in the senate, i mean, that's too many, really. >> and you have been targeted, the primaries, you have been -- the five sister senators have been called baby killers. you know a pro-life group sent plastic spines to your offices. i mean, what is it like to get that sikind of backlash to your
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position? >> well, you know, i think all of us are tough. you don't go into politics unless you have basically tough skin. and the spine thing, my sister senators were offended by it and some of the males got it, too, by the way, but they would never tell anybody because that would really offend them. but i just thought it was a joke. they call themselves students for life. i speak to students all the time. i have a son who is a senior in high school and i know for a fact they overwhelmingly support access. and so i don't know, there was like six of them running around the capitol giving out these spines. i have mine. i keep it like a trophy on the desk because i am okay with my vote. i am okay with my god. and just because they believe something different, that's fine. it really was a little silly. the students need to go back to school because, obviously, you have to have a spine if you are going to buck your own party.
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>> south carolina state senator sandy senn. you said you and your sister senators, as you call them, will oppose this measure. we will see what your male colleagues do. thank you for your time this morning. >> thank you, ma'am. >> that was really interesting. we'll keep following that very closely what happens there a. sources tell cnn florida governor ron desantis expected to make it official next week. officially entering the 2024 presidential race sometime next week. he will file paperwork with the federal election commission declare his kankakeesy and is expected to make an announcement from his hometown the following week. desantis is gathering top fundraisers in south florida. they are expecting the campaign to be officially launched once they arrive so they can begin calling donors. later today, the treasury secretary janet yellen planning to maeet with bank ceos in washington. one of the topics of course the
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bank of america and frazier of citigroup. katie porter is a member of the house oversight and economic committees, a candidate for the u.s. seat occupied by dianne feinstein. good morning. >> good morning. >> if you were janet yellen and meeting with jamie dimon, jane fraser, brian moynihan today, what would you say? >> i would tell them to pressure the republican officials that they donated to and that they funded to do right by our economy. at the end of the day, this is really coming down to are republicans willing to hijack the economy and harm the american people in order to try to get their political goals across the finish line for our future budget. >> are you sure it's fair to just say it's only on the republicans at this point? we have 13 days and it appears that the president is willing to give a little, a little bit on
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work requirements for welfare. here is what he said yesterday. >> i am not gonna accept any work requirements that's going to impact on medical health needs of people. i voted years ago for the work requirements that exist, but it's possible there could be a few others, but not anything of any consequence. >> are you willing to support a bill that includes increased work require its for things like s.n.a.p., food stamps, maybe medicaid? >> these work requirements are designed to punish people who need help. everybody would love to be having a full-time job, being able to make ends meet and not being relying on the government programs. the research is really clear. these awork requirements don't work to force people into the marketplace. what they do do is inflict harm on children and our seniors. i think president biden should not -- should hold the line on this. we want every american who can work to do so. but the best way to have them do
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that is to make sure that they have access to the food and medicine they need to thrive and be able to go out into the marketplace. >> just the point of fact here, congresswoman, i know you know this. you know this stuff. but the gop bill that passed the house on this when it comes to the medicaid work requirement they include, included, does not applying to anyone caring for dependant children, an ailing relative, pregnant women and the non-partisan cbo said if you do that and at the work requirements if would result in $109 billion in savings over ten years. still the president shouldn't budge at all? >> it's you will to the president to come to the table and see what we're gonna have to do. the alternative of going over the debt ceiling and being able to be in defeat on our bills is really, really terrible, but i do think there is a lot of work for the president to do to socialize with democrats what the work requirements look like because there is a lot of things
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in the republican's bill that are truly terrible. there may be room on some things but we are not having those conversations yet. >> that's important what you just said there. there may be room on some of these things, right? that's not an inflexible position. and would you agree -- look, you're an economist, you're a laura, you're an expert watching your hearings with anyone in the financial community we know you're an expert on this stuff. is it your assessment that a default would be more catastrophic for those most vulnerable in the country than some of these requirements in the republican bill? >> i am not going to have a debate about which kind of terrible policy making would be worse because we have a clear better alternative here. look, congress appropriated this money. we spent it. it's like a customer who goes to the cash register and rings up at the grocery store. you can't later when the credit card bill arrives decide you are not going to pay it. that's what congress is trying
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to do here. rather than this debate about which things is more harmful, we have a clear, better option, which is to raise the debt ceiling. look, congress created this debt ceiling by making spending decisions. we have to live by those spending decisions and raise the debt ceiling. if we want to have a debate about future spending, about what how we should shape our social service programs going forward, that's a debate i am ready to have. >> let's move on to the banking crisis which i suspect you will also talk about in this meeting today. you have been on the committees where the big banks ceos including jamie dimon testified before you, j.p. morgan swooped in and bought up the assets of first republic bank. were you happy to see that or did it concern you that it made america's biggest bank bigger. >> one of my concerns about the sale of silicon valley bank is the regulators didn't require silicon valley bank when they were sold to first citizens, didn't require first citizens to
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honor the community benefit agreement, to -- >> first republic. >> to low-income people. so i think it's really important that when we do these deals, do let big banks get big early, we don't let them off the hook to serve the communities in which the smaller banks are located in. >> when it comes to the first republic purchase, the most recent purchase by jpmorgan are you docomfortable with. ? >> i don't think once a bank is in failure i don't think you have any good choices. so i think the goal is, if jpmorgan was willing to buy it and they are going to do a good job with it, that was the best choice we had at the time. the forward looking goal is to stop the failures from happening. once they do, there are no good alternatives. >> let me end on this. you are running for the senate seat in california currently ac pied by senator dianne feinstein. she returned after a two and a half month absence and was answering questions this week fwr reporters and i want to play you a moment that has a lot of people concerned. here it was. >> what have you heard?
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>> what have i heard about what? >> about your return. how -- >> no, i haven't been gone. >> okay. >> you should follow -- i haven't been gone. i have been working. >> you have been working from home, is what you are saying? >> no, i have been here. i have been voting. please, either know or don't know. >> she doesn't recall she has been gone for two and a half months. her office has not corrected that or said no, here is what she actually meant. does that concern you and do you believe she is fit to serve in the senate right now? >> well, obviously, i think california needs a different senator going forward. that's why i was the first to announce even before senator feinstein made her decision about whether to run for re-election. i launched my campaign in january because i think this change is overcould. i haven't spoken to senator feinstein so i'm not able to comment how she is doing and her recovery, but i think that the senate and our country needs to
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look forward and think about how are we going to address these issues going forward. we are going to have more people who are absent. we are going to have more people who fall sick. we are going to have more senators who age given the age of the body and i think we need some forward looking porls not just focused on senator feinstein, although i understand the concerns, but look how we are going to deal with this structurally. this is unfortunately not the first time we have had this situation where we had a real concern about how senators are recovering and whether they are able to come back and do the job. >> just to clarify, are you suggesting an age requirement or age cutoff? >> i don't think it's necessarily an age cutoff. i think that there is not necessarily -- that's not necessarily the right approach. i think we are going to have people who exit the body for short periods ever time. look, we had senator fetterman who was in the hospital for a couple of months. we had senators who had children. if we elect more women, we might have more. and so i think we do need to have some policies like every
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other workplace in america to think about what are you gonna do when someone becomes infirm, either for the short term or the long term. >> it's a very fair point. who steps in and does the job when you can't. congrats on the new book, i swear politics is messier than my minivan is a fascinating and frank read. see you soon. >> thank you. >> kaitlan. a different kind of lawmaker. the mayor of -- sat down with sara sidner to talk about his 20-year rein on the food network. that interview is next. >> the dude that you saw 20 years ago and the guy that you see now maybe for a bling upgrade, that's about it. i think the hair might be the same color. those! what'd you find? lorraine banks, look, countyty of macomb, michigan? oh my goodness... this whole journey has been such a huge gift for our family.
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real food for real people. >> the hair, the flair, it was all there. that was guy fieri in 2005 before "diners, drive-ins and dives" before he was anointed mayor of flavortown, before he became one of food network's bankable and recognizable stars. he has half a dozen stars. cnn's sara sidner sat down with him and asked is he really the same guy as he was on that audition tape. >> do you call it triple d? >> yes, because i couldn't say "diners, drive-ins and dives." fans say i watching that show you do. i'm like, oh, yeah, that one. i call it triple d because when i would do the wrap for the show or some intro to the show and get it wrong, i had to retake the entire intro or out tro. i came up with triple d.
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they said i don't think you can say that. we don't say. triple d. it's become triple d. >> people that work at restaurants got hammered by the closures during covid. >> unprecedented. >> have we recovered? >> there are so many facets to this. there are good sides of it. i think you look at outdoor dining and people that never had it and now they get to take parking spots in their city or community. yes, there are still bumps and bruises and unfortunately there are still some restaurants that are gone and that's the toughest thing for me as a chef and restaurant owner and host of the show and a consumer. but we are rebuilding. it is getting better. we are going forward and the best way people can be involved is to support. restaurants are the fabric of the community in so many ways and a tent pole. they are the place you go to celebrate the good and bad. >> when you are going out to shoot triple d, i am feeling weird saying that. i'm hanging with the people today. >> you are on the team. >> when you go to shoot it, how
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do you find all these places? how do you figure out, okay, this one, yeah, this one, this is really good? >> you promise you won't tell? between you and me? >> we are on camera. >> nobody will tell. it's a lot of this. with a dartboard and a map and just, yeah. >> that's the secret sauce? >> that's it. that's the genesis. now, i will tell you how it started. one, used to be a lot of fan base. i would say i am going somewhere and every person i knew would tell me where i needed to go. so that fan base. then the actual fans writing and saying you've got to go to this area. now what happens is i travel so much and tell the team i am thinking of detroit in six months, let's see what you got. now we take a full sampling between friends, families, past triple d locations, are the articles written, so forth, and it really becomes this gigantic nfl draft. >> like a social media
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experiment. >> it is crazy. so by the time it finally makes it to to me, it's usually 20 locations make it to me. >> i happened to come by your 2005 audition for the food network. >> thank you for having me. and i watched it more than once, just so you know. but it was all-uthentically. >> 100%. >> 100% smart-aleck, as my grandma would say. >> yes. >> but when you look at that, have you ever gone back to look at it and are you the same guy? do you feel like, i'm that same guy even though it's almost been 20 years? >> there is no difference at all. my friends that, you know, still my closest friends then and closest friends now, it's funny. i was showing my son rider, who was 17, who was just born when i hit the finale of food network star and he watched it and goes, so you were doing all of this
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even before i was born? he goes, this is how you always acted? it's not an act. it's just i think life is very funny. i think that everything should have some kind of -- you should -- i mean, you should enjoy it and laugh at it and poke fun with it. things to take serious as well. but when i had the opportunity to put in the demo tape, i am saying i meant what i said. listen, there is a real serious side of food and fun side of fun and i want to be the fun side. the dude you saw 20 years ago and the guy you see now maybe for a little bling upgrade, that's about it. i think the hair might be the same color. >> when you are out on the shoots, i have watched and thought, i mean, i am getting full just looking at this. >> right. >> do you just take a bite or do you say, screw it, i'm eating the whole thing, it's so good? >> you can't see it because of the fantastic trickery of television that we actually have a stunt eater that takes -- >> okay, stop. stop right now. >> so when i go to triple d
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joint, we vet them so far that i know what i'm taking a bite of most likely is going to be great if not incredible. there is a difference. but sometimes i take a bite, i will be like, that's great. sometimes it will be outstanding and sometimes like, uh -- >> i have seen those moments. >> so the producers have a do not resuscitate, do not give to guy order. i take a couple bites and talk about it and it will be gone. i am like, where did that pastrami sandwich go? we will give it to you when you leave, otherwise i will eat the whole thing and i can't do it because i have to keep my pallet open. i shoot three locations in a day, two to three recipes per location. so to keep my palate fresh, i can't get into that space. >> okay. so has there ever been somewhere
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where you bit into something and you wanted to spit it out? we don't have to say where. >> it's not wired? it hasn't happened in 12 years. >> but it's happened? >> maybe five or six times. so, listen, i have -- i think i have one of the greatest opportunities in the world because i get to shine the light on just how alive and well america is. and we even shot outside of the country. you know, food is the common denominator of all people. not everybody likes the same music or sports or politics or whatever, but we all love food. and to be the guy that gets to be the conductor, you know, to be in the middle of this thing and say, hey, take a look, it's blessed. blessed opportunity. >> you talked about getting to go to all these places and you really have seen a wide swath of this country and you have talked to people while their guard is down. when you are eating and enjoying yourself, it's easy -- >> maybe we should have our world summits that way, by the
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way. you get some barbecue, you get some pizzas and margaritas flowing, i think we could solve a lot of the problems we got going on these days. >> i have to agree with you. >> the great thing is, is when we talk about food, it's become so neutral that you can bring people together that weren't typically going to be together and do it over food. even now with ethnicities, the ethnic foods coming in, people are saying, wait a second, i don't understand these -- this background or culture or the music or even the names of the spices, but, boy, i love indian food, you know? and i'm turning people on to indian food all the time. or vegan. people look at it with such this voodoo. no! i am sharing it with people. they are going, wait a second. we don't go to the restaurant because it's vegan. we go because it's delicious. >> gosh, that was fascinating i love what he said.
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we thought we would talk about it. this week the company's ceo sam altman testified in front of congress and said it must be regulated to avoid causing significant harm to the world. let's talk about how popular chatgpt has become. harry enten, what's the number? >> this morning's number is 1.8 billion. that was the worldwide visits to chatgpt in the month of april making it the 17th most visited website. my goodness gracious. and let's take a look at what surround it to give you a real understanding of just how popular it's become. you see chatgpt here. look, the microsoft live outlook suite at 16, tiktok 50. look at this. amazon at 14, probably my favorite website so i don't have to go out and shop, i can just stay in my room. here we go. this is also another key indication. you want people to stay on your website for a long period of time. visit one page and leave the website or your bounce rate. chatgpt it's 17%. the top 20 websites visited
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average it's 29%. so a lot of people are staying on chatgpt for a long period of time. >> of course, i mean, the ass assumption is most people are younger. my dad is not checking out chatgpt. but i am scared of what he will do once he discovers it. >> those text messages may not be from him from now on. >> i am questioning the ones i get now. >> so are you familiar with chatgpt? 50% of americans overall are. look at this, under the age of 45, 65% versus age 45 and older 41%. there is this fear of a lot of people, will students cheat using chatgpt. very likely students will be able to use chatgpt to cheat. 65% of americans say yes. but look at this. children that live at your home among the parents, 74%. parents are a little bit worried, guys. >> yeah. >> maybe i will do it this weekend. >> wonder if your children have? >> no way warrants i am going to tell. >> thank you. coming up, the world's most
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scene of jack and rose on the bow of the titanic. >> i'm flying. jack. >> that was 1997, folks. we are now getting an incredible look at the ship wreck that sits more than 12,000 feet below water. a new underwater scanning project captured what's described as an exact digital twin of the luxury liner that sank, killing more than 1,500 people. the bow of the ship remains identifiable all these years later. joining us now is greg sopen, an attorney and titanic expert. thank you for being here. >> thank you. it's great to be here. >> you're a titanic expert. what did you think when you saw
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the scans? >> something we've never had before. it's an amazing development. i would say probably the most significant development in terms of research since the development of facial recognition software. it gives us an unbridled view of the entire ship in a 3d format that we never had before, and fortunate we have it now because the titanic is disintegrating at an alarming rate and at some point all we'll have left are images such as this. and since we're going to have what can be considered an exact duplicate of the titanic as it rests today. we'll continue to study the ship because there's still a lot of unanswered questions and probably questions we don't know exist until we get into the research -- >> well -- >> for example -- yes. >> i didn't realize there was so many unanswered questions about how the titanic sank and you said there were questions about
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what damage the iceberg caused to the ship. do you think you'll be able to learn more about that. >> yes. when the ship went down there were eyewitnesses who said we saw the ship break in two. people didn't believe them. when the ship was discovered in 1985, it became apparent they were correct and now we'll see the mechanics how it occurred. the clarity, detail of these images is incredible. you can even see -- by the way, when you're looking at this you don't even see the purr key ocean surrounding the ship, which was an impediment to some of the 2d images we've seen before. you can see unopened bottles of champagne and a serial number on one of the propeller blades from the ship. so the detail is going to allow us to examine the ship and what
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damage the iceberg did. everyone assumes it did piercings or slashes on the star board side of the ship but other things could have happened before that we couldn't determine before because the titanic sits in a hostile environment. with these 3d images we'll be able to answer a lot of questions once engineers get their hands on this. >> unopened bottles of champagne, that level of detail is amazing. >> that's what i was thinking. >> craig, we know you're an expert, thank you for your time this morning. >> thank you. my pleasure. >> see you tomorrow. >> it's s friday tomorrow. >> yes. cnn "news central" statarts aft this break. i got tai last december. i've spentnt almost every minute with her since. when i first brought her home, she was eating little brown pieces in a bag and it was just what kind of came recommended. i just always thought,
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