so andy warhol's iconic images may be works of art, but at least one famous work of art also violated copyright law. of course that's the ruling from the supreme court. the justices siding with a prominent photographer, whose image was used to create warhol's silk screens of prints. now warhol's estate had argued the silk screen images were fundamentally different. they were based on but fundamentally different. they were art. they therefore did not violate copyright laws. seven of the justices rejected that reasoning. interesting alliance here, though. one of the court's most liberal justices, elena kagan was joined by the chief justice jean-roberts in dissent. they argue the decision will, quote, stifle creativity of every sort. it will impede new art and music and literature. it will thwart the expression of new ideas and the attainment of new knowledge. it will make our world poorer. thanks for joining us. "ac 360" start news. good evening. tonight the clearest sign yet

that florida governor ron desantis will challenge donald trump for the republican presidential nomination. it comes on a day the company he has targeted, disney, decided to hit him with a billion dollar blow. i'll have more on what disney just announced shortly. but on desantis' run, sources are telling cnn he'll be filing the paperwork next week. he had a call late today with donors and supporters, and a "new york times" reporter listened in. i'm going to read a quote from that "new york times" story which begins with something desantis said on the call. you basically have three people credible in this whole thing, mr. desantis said on the call, organized by the superpac supporting him, biden, trump and me. of the two, two have a chance to be elected, biden and me. "the times" said he is basing that on swing state data which he describes as not great for the former president, quote, and probably insurmountable because people aren't going to change their view of him. which is interesting because it would be hard to describe

desantis' recent moves as courting the voters. instead he seems to be trying to outflank former president on the right, certainly on abortion, criticizing the president for not saying during last week's town hall whether he would support florida's new restrictive abortion law. >> i signed the ball. le was proud to do it. he won't answer whether he'll do it or not. >> reporter: also championed the covid vaccine, moved to restrict what teachers can say in schools about sexuality and repeatedly spoken out about so-called wokeness. >> we will never surrender to the woke mob. florida is where woke goes to die. >> governor desantis has targeted the disney corporation after the then ceo opposed the so-called don't say gay bill. today disney announced it's scrapping plans for a billion dollar orlando area office complex, which was expected to add some 2,000 jobs. randi kaye joins us now with the latest on that. so what do we know about this decision by disney?

>> well, anderson, you mentioned that disney is now backing away from this billion investment here in the state of florida. that's a big blow to the state. this complex was going to be built in lake nona, which is about 20 miles outside the area where walt disney is in the orlando area. they were going to bring those 2,000 employees, transferring them from california to florida. and according to "the new york times," the average salary for those employees, each employee was going to be about $120,000. so the company today said we are no longer doing that. they cited changing business conditions. but of course, anderson, the backdrop to all of this is governor desantis tightening oversight of disney's theme park and the surrounding area. this is after disney issued that statement really slamming a signature piece of legislation that the governor had been touting, and disney has accused desantis of being anti-business. and disney is now they say rethinking this whole plan of theirs to actually invest another $17 billion in the state of florida, possibly bringing as many as 13,000 jobs, all of

that, anderson, now still in play, but possibly not going to happen. >> and i mean, this battle between disney and the governor, it's been going on for more than a year. talk a little bit about the origins of it, if you can. >> yeah, anderson. it started in january of 2022. that's when state lawmakers introduced what was called the parental rights in education bill. critics called it the don't say gay bill. it basically banned teachers from teaching gender identity and sexual orientation through the third grade. so disney came out and issued a statement under the former leadership, basically slamming this bill, saying it never should have been signed into law by the governor. and then the incoming ceo bob iger certainly didn't back down either. state lawmakers voted to replace the special taxing district which basically has allowed disney to governor itself for the last few decades. the state put in place a new board to run that district. this board was stacked with desantis appointees.

and disney cut a deal in the thick of night with that outgoing board before the new board could take over, of course, that was not going to make the governor happy. and then suddenly desantis started talking about building a prison next to walt disney world, maybe raising taxes in the area, and disney filed a lawsuit against the governor, saying disney was being punished for exercising its right to free speech. and the desantis appointed board counter sued disney and all of that is tied up in court. >> and has governor desantis responded to this latest move about this billion business that's not going to be there? >> i reached out to his office today, and i was in touch with his press secretary, jeremy redfern. he says disney has announced the possibility of this project two years ago and it never really went anywhere. but in his official statement to me, he said given the company's financial straits, falling stock price, it is unsurprising that they would restructure their business operations and cancel

what he called unsuccessful ventures. but anderson, of course donald trump seizing on this, trying to capitalize on all of this in an email blast saying that desantis is being absolutely destroyed by disney, also warning that disney's next move could not be investing any more money at all in the state of florida and possibly a slow withdrawal from the state of florida. donald trump calling this all so unnecessary and referring to it, anderson, as a political stunt. >> randi kaye, appreciate it. more now on the broader politics of this. joining alyssa farah griffin who served as white house communications director in the private administration, and also democratic strategist james carville. what do you make of first of all disney's latest move and how desantis has handled this? >> i think desantis was bound to get outmoved by disney. to put a finer point, the average salary under this deal, $120,000 a year. well the median salary in the state of florida is $60,000. these are high-paying jobs that are no longer coming to the state. listen, what propelled ron

desantis in the victory and seen as the consummate front-runner, if not donald trump in the republican party was the fact that he was governing the great state of florida, the free state of florida. it's kind of the republican mecca. the jobs environment was good. the economy was good. he is, you know, it's a good tax environment. he's kind of countering the best things about him by taking on the second biggest employer in the state. and you have to wonder who is advising him, because even so, i don't know that the average voter in new hampshire or south carolina sees disney as a bad brand. it's the brand of mickey mouse. it's the brand of walt disney. it seems like he almost doubled down in it because he got himself in too deep. and i think this is going to get worse for him before it gets better. >> james, you've been outspoken in the past about how democrats are too focused on wokeness. do you think desantis will leverage the culture wars or is it backfiring on him? >> he says where want goes to die. no. it's where teach goers to jail.

they're trying to arrest some third or fourth grade teacher in pensacola for showing a disney movie. he keeps pulling one stunt after another and they keep blowing up on him. my favorite story is about his staff telling him to act human. it's the first time i've ever heard in politics to act human, it's a good as chance as somebody asking me to act sophisticated. i can't do it. >> you can pull yourself together every now and then, james. >> it's kind of funny when you think about it. act human, act human. >> alyssa, have you heard the reporting from "the new york times" that desantis is making the eligibility argument to donors saying it's only him -- electable, i should say, only him and biden that can win in 2024. especially talking about swing states. some of the laws he signed are clearly trying to go to the right of trump. >> well, and that's -- therein in lies the big problem. i think what has hurt desantis and why he has dropped in the primary polls is his best

argument was electability. now there are polls that's not necessarily true, that trump actually outperforms biden nearly as desantis does in the general. but first you to win a primary. then you have to win a general. i've said this to desantis' team, many times. he is making the circle of potential voters smaller and smaller by going as far into the culture wars he is. the biggest block is going to be gen z voters followed by millennials. we're the generation of marriage equality. 67% of republicans don't support the attacks on the transgender community, yet he is making that such a big part of his political identity. if you're going to win swing voters that went way from donald trump in 2020, if you want to get them back into the fold, to independents, to moderates, he's got to start moderating. and i just don't know that he has that in his wheel house. this is man who -- he doesn't sit down with mainstream media. he does things like the so-called don't say gay bill, but doesn't defend it to audiences aren't friendly to him that is a muscle you have to be age to flex as a national

candidate. >> jim, when i spoke to chris sununu last week, he said it's a mistake for 2024 opponents trying to debate him on policy. it has to be on his character and, quote, flaws he brings to the table. do you see evidence that desantis or anyone else currently running or may has the appetite to do that? >> well, he's going to have to, because right now, among republicans, he is slipping. and the idea to vote for me because of a poll in colorado taken in may of 2023 is going to determine the nomination i think is crazy. and he's going all in iowa, which is the republican caucus is there, quite conservative. you'll remember ted cruz won the iowa caucuses in 2016 and did him a lot of good. and i just think running, you know, hard anti-abortion and hard to cut social security and medicare is not going to cut it. he's got some bad positions in addition to his famous lack of personality. say what you want about trump,

but he is a compelling character to republicans. i find him repulsive or repugnant, but toe those people at cnn new hampshire town hall, he was a pretty popular guy. a lot of that is based on style and personality and having some sort of human skills. i just don't see that in desantis. look, don't count people out. people counted us out in '92. we were gut-shot, competitive moving against -- i'm not counting anybody out. but desantis thus far has been to me singly unimpressive. >> james, as somebody who has probably looked at polling all your life, when you look at the polling showing trump leading desantis by 30 points, does that mean anything to you at this stage? >> yeah, a little bit. i mean, i wouldn't take a poll right now and certainly primary polls are notoriously fluid. and it's notoriously hard to do. but what they do show is that trump's position over desantis

has improved over the last couple three months. i think that's pretty clear. and i think desantis' lack of political skill, of personality has been pretty much public is starting to see it. now he can turn it around, but he seems to be painting himself in a pretty stringent box. and, you know, disney is a corporation. it's got great lawyers and they have got great pr people. but it looks like mickey mouse and goofy is beating him every day. and that's not the image that you want to project when you run in an electorate, particularly a republican electorate that love candidates that project strength. that's a bad visual, i think. >> alyssa, it did seem like desantis was riding high when people didn't know much about him. more they see, the less they seem to like. >> his political talent is driving national media coverage. he does a lot of stunts, whether it's sending migrants to

martha's vineyard or different challenges with disney. but once they start seeing a little more, his numbers have precipitously gone down. and i would just note, a republican who won iowa hasn't gone on to win the presidency since i believe george bush in 2000. so an iowa-focused strategy isn't what he needs. he needs to think about a longer game. >> alyssa farah griffin, thanks. james carville, thank you. coming up next, how fbi agents stripped of their security clearances became witnesses in hearing. congressman jim jordan said the hearings are aimed to expose what he calls the weaponization of the federal government. we joined someone who took part and it gont contentious. also, an attorney with deep experience in national security cases. how quickly he thinks charges against the former president could be coming. with f flexible multi-cloud services that enanable digital innovation and enterprise control, vmware helps you keep yourur cloud options open. hi, i'm tony hawk, and like many of you, i take a statin to reduce cholesterol, but statins can also deplete coq10 levels.

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works. that's not how committees work. >> congressman jordan is calling the witnesses whistle-blowers. democrats are saying they aren't. cnn's jessica dean joins us now with more. it was pretty firing hearing today a lot of questions raised about the credibility of the witnesses. talk what went on. >> anderson, that was so much of what was discussed in this hearing today. we heard from congressman goldman there. the democrats very concerned that they were not able to hear the testimony that these so-called whistle-blowers had provided to the gop members of this committee. so zooming out for just a second, this is just the latest escalation in congressman jim jordan's weaponization committee. and he is trying to make the case that the fbi, doj is weaponized against conservatives. so he wanted to bring in what he considers whistle-blowers to talk about this. what was interesting is that we also heard from the fbi that three people had had their security clearances revoked for either attending the january 6th riots here at the capitol or espousing alternate theories about what happened here.

and two of those witnesses today were two of those people thatted that their security clearances revoked. so you can understand why democrats had a lot of questions about what kind of facts and what kind of information they were giving the committee. >> so what more do we know about these witnesses? particularly their current standing in the fbi. >> right. so let's start first with marcus allen, one of the men that testified today. he had his security clearance revoked on may 3rd. and we're told that he sent out an email that said to exercise extreme caution when investigating january 6th and interviewing people about january 6th, that he had said he went to an open source and didn't find any evidence of any wrongdoing on january 6th. but then again, another fbi agent found that that person, that source did attack capitol police officers. so that's one person. the second is a man named steve friend, a former agent named steve friend who had his

security clearance revoked on tuesday. we're told that he went into fbi space and downloaded information with an unauthorized flash drive, that he did unauthorized interviews, including with a russian government agency, among other things, anderson. so, again, just a lot of questions about the information that these men were bringing to the committee. >> jessica dean, i appreciate it. before bringing in our next guest, democratic ranking member of the subcommittee stacey plaska, a delegate for the virgin islands, i want to play an exchange she had with the chairman. >> these are not whistle-blowers. they've been determined by the agency not to be whistle-blowers. are you deciding that they're whistle-blowers? >> yes. the law decides. did you not listen to mr. leavitt's testimony? did you not read the law? >> this attorney is asserting -- >> the gentlelady from new york. >> the law has not determined that they -- >> the law has not determined they are whistle-blowers. his attorney is just asserting

that. >> and congresswoman joins us now. thanks for being with us. what exactly was going on from your point of view in that hearing room today? >> well, you know, this is a very interesting select committee that has been put together by kevin mccarthy. and its primary purpose, anderson, is really to test case conspiracy theories that the republicans have and specifically that donald trump may use in his presidential election. so we've done the twitter files investigation. we're looking at fbi supposed whistle-blowers. that's the sum total of what is happening here. this is a really concerted effort to undermine americans' confidence in the rule of law, in the department of justice, in the fbi. >> and can you just explain why you're saying that those witnesses are not whistle-blowers, and why you think congressman jordan. >> sure. >> is not giving you and democrats on the committee all

the information you're requesting? because when dan goldman brought that up, i looked a the transcripts, jordan said yeah, we have chosen not to give it to you. >> right. well, you know, the rules no longer apply. and specifically, my republican colleagues don't think the rules apply when the rules don't help them. that's also what they've done with the fbi and other instances. they're not interested in working and finding out cases and issues that the fbi may have in how it may have misused its power. they're only interested when the fbi is going after or has put down individuals who espouse theories that they want to put forward, like a stolen election, like january 6th not having been an insurrection. so the issue we had with the witnesses that they brought forward today is that jim jordan and his other members of his party, particularly on that committee would like us to believe that these individuals are whistle-blowers.

whistle-blowers are individuals who will be protected by the government because they are disclosing allegations of misconduct. the individuals that we saw today have not alleged any misconduct by the fbi. what they have alleged is that the fbi asked them to do their job and did not believe the january 6th was a regular day. the fbi believed that january 6th contained domestic terrorists and made these individuals act as federal law enforcement officers to go after and to investigate those individuals. and that's exactly what they did not want to do. friend did not want to be involved in the arrest of an individual who they have known has been armed. we saw pictures of him in january 6th with assault weapons, canisters of tear gas, wearing protective masks himself. other individuals, as you heard from the reporter where

downloading and disseminating to other fbi agents information that they knew were fallacious and not true, was told by the supervisor not to do it, and continued to do it. and the third person recorded his supervisor when that is against the law for him to do that and downloaded information and put it out there into the public. so these are not, as we would consider them whistle-blowers. people who are alleging wrongdoing. these are individuals who have a gripe with fbi, rightfully had their security clearances revoked because they were sympathizers of january 6th and other theories, and so now they are crying grievance because of that. >> congresswoman stacey plaskett, i really appreciate it today. thank you. coming up, the former president's legal troubles. last night we brought you cnn exclusive reporting about implications from the national archives that may soon be in the

hands of the council that undercuts claims about documents being found at mar-a-lago. we talk to a well-known attorney who deals in national security issues, next.

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concern, quote, whether, why and how you should declassify certain classified records, unquote, and may provide critical evidence about the former president's awareness of how the declassification process worked. joining now by mark zaid, an extensive background in national security cases. thanks for being with us. >> thanks. >> you hear the latest reporting. what does it suggest to you about the likelihood of charges against the former president? and when would you expect that decision from the special counsel? >> well, realistically, every bit of new evidence that we have learned over the last year has only mounted against the former president, and perhaps others that were in close proximity to him as well as who was at mar-a-lago, to include possibly his lawyers. now i would have thought quite frankly that if they were going to have moved ahead, they would have done so by now. i think the biden/pence situations of having mishandled classified information may have delayed some aspects, and there may be some rethinking how to

phrase possible claims against the former president and others. but the obstruction claims, those exist regardless. and i also say remember, we always talk about classified information. that's what people understand. we're not talking about that really. we're talking about national defense information, which usually is classified, per the espionage act statute, but doesn't have to necessarily be. >> but you think this could take place in -- i mean, i heard you say weeks, not months. is that accurate? >> i think based on what we know publicly, i have no inside information into the justice department or the special counsel, that they have more than enough to proceed as a matter of law. whether or not from a policy perspective there's something holding them up, i don't know. but by all means, there is more than enough information to bring some charges in a matter of weeks if not months. now what could weeks be? i don't know. eight weeks? 12 weeks? that's still two, three, four

months away. but sooner rather than later. >> last week at the town hall, the former president said, quote, by the way, they became automatically declassified when i took them, end quote. >> right. >> he's made that claim about a standing order to declassified documents before. certainly has not been much corroboration of that from members of his own administration. i think kash patel said something about it, but he went before the grand jury and hasn't said anything since. do you think -- he keeps saying that. is there any truth to it whatsoever? >> no. there is no such thing as i take it with me, it automatically becomes declassified. and in fact, even though there could have been a standing order, a president can most likely constitutionally verbally declassify information, that's of course not how the process typically works. but this was the trump administration. there is no such thing as typical. but i represented three cabinet officers, two secretaries of defense and a national security adviser. there is no one other than as

you said kash patel who went before the grand jury and has never said a word since about what he said that shows any evidence of any type of standing order. so the president, former president is in a lot of legal trouble. that town hall i'm sure made his lawyers shake their head and cover their eyes because of what he said, because what he said was very incriminating as a matter of law. >> and you've been critical of some of the former president's attorneys in the past. at this point, is there a differing legal strategy that you would recommend for the former president adopt? or is this -- is it too late for any of that? >> he could certainly plead if he wanted. look, his strategy generally in lawsuits, and i have a current lawsuit against him now arising out of january 6th to be honest, has always been to just delay, delay, delay. we're clearly talking, if he is facing charges, going well past

the 2024 election. i don't know if this is going to be a eugene debs situation for historians out there. they can google him and read about it. but the strategy generally for his lawyers has been to do things that make him look upon you with favor rather than come up with a legal strategy that is actually viable. >> mark zaid, i really appreciate you coming on. thank you. >> any time. just to head back to the politics, who is behind all the book banning. there is an activist group that call themselves moms for liberty. the they attempt to ban books that mention gender, sexuality, race. ellie reed has their story next. oh booking.com, ♪ i'm going to somewhere, anywhere. ♪ ♪ a beach house a treehouse, ♪

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governor ron desantis's likely entry into the republican brought a polite to the don't say gay law, initially teaching florida students about sexual orientation through gender identity has been expanded last month through high school. opponents call it dangerous and vague. it's led to book bans that included authors such as toni morrison, margaret atwood and judy blume. >> the state of florida, we're proud to stand for education, not indoctrination in our schools. >> the left wing rioting and

mayhem are the direct result of decades of left-wing indoctrination in our schools. >> the democrats believe that parents shouldn't have a say in their kids' education. >> parents want schools focused on reading, writing, and math, not woke politics. >> the left is trying to hijack women sports. and our schools are on the verge of becoming breeding grounds for liberal and progressive ideas. >> desantis's law also led to his ongoing fight with disney. one of the people he pointed to a board that was supposed to provide more oversight was a co-founder of moms for liberty, which has advocated for the classroom fights in districts across america. ellie reed has more on who they are. >> reporter: by exposing our children to adult concepts such as gender identity, we are asking them to carry a load that is much too heavy for them. >> might i suggest instead of anal sex, perhaps we could go

back to teaching cursive. thinking book is not appropriate, and it is in your schools. >> moms for liberty is a parent activist group. it began in florida in 2021 to protest public schools being closed for covid and mask mandates. the group became a frequent and spicy presence at school board meetings. >> this is about more than masks, for the record. >> reporter: but now there are more than 250 moms for liberty chapters nationwide, the group says, and it has gained major conservative allies and morphed into something its, a campaign against supposed indoctrination of children on race and sexuality. >> have i the right to say i don't want my kids to learn this. i don't agree with this movement. and that's my right. >> so books should fall into that category as well. >> reporter: we wanted to understand what's driving these moms on a deeper level than some viral videos. so we met with the moms for liberty chapter in el paso county, colorado, where conservatives won majorities on three school boards in 2021. leader darcy shaning let us watch a meeting where they

talked about how to pressure the boards into making the policies they want. what school districts are most of you guys in? >> what moms for liberty has become most famous for is claiming school libraries contain books with forpornograp content. and for trying to get some books removed. according to the supreme court's definition of obscenity, they're not porn. >> i've read definitions of your group. people say this is kind of like a moral panic, that people have an irrational fear of what's going on. >> we're not looking to ban books. we're not looking to burn books. we just need to get back to a system where parents know what their kids are learning. and for the most part, it's educational and not political. >> one of the books on your list is kurt von gut's slaughterhouse 5. >> i read that in high school. >> no. again, age appropriate.

>> whoo might not be appropriate for a 6-year-old is appropriate for a 15-year-old. >> is someone assigning a first grader to slaughterhouse 5? >> no. but it's the right of the parents to know that it's there. that their children have access to something that they may not have access to at home. >> reporter: one of the big issues right now is pronouns. in march, colorado's district 11 school board considered a proposal to prevent teachers from asking kids their pronouns, sparking protests. >> teachers can no longer ask kids their pronouns. that's right. no more grooming kids with pronounces in d-11. >> reporter: the school board has tabled the proposal. why is asking a child their pronouns indoctrination? >> if you ask my children who are 7 and 8 what are your pronouns? they don't even know what that is. so when you ask that, you're planting the seed in their minds that they maybe should identify as another gender, or that identifying as another gender is hip or cool.

hey, my teacher is asking me. so maybe this is what i should do. >> but i certainly never felt that way about my teachers. i didn't learn i was heterosexual from my health teacher. it was from watching '90s moves with brad pitt in it. >> yeah, yeah. but and i think that's how most of us are. >> reporter: we wanted to hear what some of the more liberal parents had to say. some of them sat in on the meeting, and one passed me this note call it a hate group. the next day we met with those parents. for the record, have any of your kids ever come home and said i'm feeling peer pressure to be gay or trans? >> no. >> reporter: naomi is a speech pathologist and works in a district 11 school. >> we're not going around saying okay, we want you to think about it. what gender are you? >> they say it's happening. >> it's not. my personal beliefs, my personal viewpoint on the world does not come into the classroom. we are professionals with

degrees in pedagogy. >> and she is also the mom of a transgender student. >> so, i'm sorry. can you ask me again? because i'm getting pissed off. >> reporter: you want the talk than first? why does it make you emotional to talk about this stuff? >> so i get emotional when other people who don't have children who are transgender or queer place an assumption on it for the sake of persecution, based on their own belief. >> when you're putting all this curriculum everywhere, and you're telling kids hey, you can come to talk to me behind your parents' back. i've got your back. i mean, there is a clear move to bring more of that into our schools. and it's just not the schools' place. >> so what i feel like you're strongly implying, and i would like to get your take on, because i don't want to

attribute something you don't think, but to me it sounds like you're saying there is some kind of high-level coordinated effort to make more children trans and gay. >> yep. >> reporter: well, who is directing that? >> teachers unions and our president and a lot of funding sources, and teachers unions are also heavily backing the curriculum that we're bringing into coschools. >> reporter: why would they want more kids to be gay and trans? >> because it breaks down the family unit which breaks down traditional conservative values. it breaks down a lot of things in the country. it changes the way that people think. it changes the way people handle politics. >> reporter: of course there is no evidence of a coordinated plot to make kids trans. when i hear those thoughts about like some sort of concerted effort to make people gay, does it sound like a conspiracy theory to you? >> it's not a conspiracy theory that this state, whether you're talking about colorado or the federal government is taking a

stronger and stronger hand in public education, in raising our kids. so do i think that for some reason people want everyone to be gay? that's a mischaracterization of what i think. i think that people will use -- the people that want to erode away at parental rights, the last of teachers unions, they'll use lgbtq or whatever may be the case at the time. those are just tools to erode away at praenl rights. >> reporter: the last meeting was mostly about student awards and performances. the board seemed to anticipate the few moms for liberty members in the crowd. >> as we reflect over the last year, removing rogue woke clubs, teachers, woke teachers, and counselors from d-11 is a must. >> reporter: and a couple of students push back. >> if you remove teachers' ability to ask for pronoun you will remove the ability for safe spaces to exist, taking away the safety of your students. >> the students and support

staff that are supporting our students out there. >> my child thinks it's ludicrous that it's such a big deal, because to them it's just normal. to their friends, they don't care how my child identifies. they love them for who they are. >> and ellie reed joins me now. is it -- is it clear to you which side of this debate has the most support or momentum in that school district, for instance? >> well, to be clear, shaning's kids have never gone to public school. >> wait a minute, her kid don't go to public school? >> no, they have never been. she hopes maybe by high school the schools will be good enough for her kids. the other kids we talk to, the liberal kids who do go to the school say it's not the majority opinion. one parent complained about phi books. and that men that the district had to create committees to determine whether those books were obscene or they could say. and in the end, all five stayed, but one parent who served on that committee said it was just a huge waste of time and

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in a san francisco courtroom today, the man accused of stabbing bob lee pleaded not guilty. according to the coroner, lee was stabbed multiple times. prosecutors said that he left lee to slowly die on the streets. and the surveillance video will be crucial to the case. there's also new report on how the suspect and the victim knew one another. >> we believe this was an intentional killing. >> reporter: prosecutors say on the night bob lee was murdered, he and suspect nima -- were in the apartment. the dna all over the handle.

>> the brand of the knife used in this killing is associated with a set of cutlery that was in his sister's apartment. >> reporter: before the violent confrontation, lee and momeni knew each other for years. lee was in a relationship with momeni's sister. according to multiple sources who also spoke to "the wall street journal," they described lee as a kind and generous friend, who loved adventure and was part of an underground silicon valley scene, known as the lifestyle, where people use drugs and there's a lot of casual sex. in a statement provided to "the wall street journal," the lawyer said there are many rumors circulating around this case, many of them untrue. a motivover an explanation as to why this happened is still unclear. both sides say they will not reveal more until trial, but

mr. momenti's attorney reveals there's more to this story than the defense reveals. >> my defense is it is an accident, a cross between self-defense and accident. there was no premeditation/deliberation. >> reporter: surveillance videos of the stabbing are a critical part of this case. argued the cameras don't capture audio, and the video of the stabbing is also blurry. she also says police only interviewed two witnesses after the murder and never spoke to momenti before his arrest. >> part of the reason we're here today is because the police didn't go and speak to nima momenti that night who would have easily given him the explanation of what happened and why it happened. >> reporter: district attorney brook jenkins couldn't confirm if the police approached momenti before the arrest, but there's

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